We Put Future Tires on our Miata

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We tested 100 year old tires vs futuristic airless tires to see how far tire technology has come.
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  • @ScreamingNakedIntoTheVoid
    @ScreamingNakedIntoTheVoid Жыл бұрын

    can we just take a moment to appreciate the real mvp's here? them damn spacers holding this whole video.

  • @mastercricket7626

    @mastercricket7626

    Жыл бұрын

    spacers just have a bad name fam if applied properly they go forever ... im 3 years on 50mm spacers and not a issue in the world altho my mind hasme check the torque spec every so often its always spot on i just cant help but feel that something gonna mess up but been great sofar and i beat the hell outta the car lol 😂 😂 peace n love bro keep it rad stay safe and build on

  • @Armageddon-ik4dh

    @Armageddon-ik4dh

    Жыл бұрын

    You god damn right

  • @JaredConnell

    @JaredConnell

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mastercricket7626 one set of spacers should be fine. But when you have half a dozen of them then it's not gonna be a good time for your suspension lmao

  • @terryhughes6248

    @terryhughes6248

    Жыл бұрын

    Whistlindiesel has proven what you can do with spacers haha

  • @lasskinn474

    @lasskinn474

    Жыл бұрын

    Well the spacers and the extra leveraged twist on the suspension parts themselves

  • @jf2564
    @jf2564 Жыл бұрын

    I cant imagine the pain those wheel bearings went throgh in the process of this video.

  • @andreanderzzon8419

    @andreanderzzon8419

    Жыл бұрын

    I was just about to comment that

  • @michaellegarde3125

    @michaellegarde3125

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruh same thoughts here. Those tests are gonna put the life of the wheel bearings in jeopardy.

  • @amorton94

    @amorton94

    Жыл бұрын

    And the ball joints.

  • @naysaykiller928

    @naysaykiller928

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine the side fumbling

  • @mastercricket7626

    @mastercricket7626

    Жыл бұрын

    lol no lie that was first thing i thought of when i seen him turn and all that flex fro tire to bearing with the spacers u can literally see it torquing on them in a not so cool way lol but its a miata so it can take anything lol 😂 😂 im not bias lol (drives a forged boosted NA miata) .. peace n love brotha keep it rad stay safe and build on

  • @enochmartin7190
    @enochmartin7190 Жыл бұрын

    Remember the airless tires are offroad tires, so they're bigger, heavier, and don't accelerate as quickly because of that. I want to see a test of these on a vehicle they were made for, against BFG Mud Terrains or smth else with a similar tread and weight.

  • @peytonmac1131

    @peytonmac1131

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious how the airless tyres handle mud, when all that space inside seems like it would get filled up and jammed.

  • @dylanrodriguez5855

    @dylanrodriguez5855

    10 ай бұрын

    Funny how you said that cause they forgot that's off road tires😂

  • @Ddog72

    @Ddog72

    8 ай бұрын

    They are NOT off-road tyres... How do you air down for soft terrain.. With no air. You cant. They are not off-road tyres.

  • @enochmartin7190

    @enochmartin7190

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Ddog72 hm good point, that would be something I'd miss. Although, he did say they're designed for UTVs, and the lack of air allows the tread pattern to be flat against the driving surface - more traction and flotation.

  • @TheRokkis

    @TheRokkis

    8 ай бұрын

    We got similar airless tires in our Grasshopper lawnmower. Very expensive but sooo good compared to old tractor type tires. Of course it's not a car but some areas we mow are pretty off-roady so maybe that's worth something. The tire itself has some give by design so it increases the surface area compared to regular tire full of air. Also for what I've seen they get softer with use which might help. If they're bad quality I think they might deform or get soft unequally making bumpy ride.

  • @CallsignTrike
    @CallsignTrike Жыл бұрын

    I think in the acceleration test the size difference is what matters the most. Those smaller tires can accelerate faster but have less top speed

  • @alexthompson353

    @alexthompson353

    Жыл бұрын

    straight out of mario cart

  • @giovannigiorgio231

    @giovannigiorgio231

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly right, it's basic physics and somehow they didn't bother...

  • @C64278

    @C64278

    Жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @kentworch

    @kentworch

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank likely has a lot to do with it.

  • @grimfang4

    @grimfang4

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, a weird oversight given they had a guy specifically there to talk about the science. The radius and the mass distribution will affect the moment of inertia of the tires, which will affect acceleration and braking. The radius also affects the moment arm, which changes how energy is exchanged (by way of torque) between the ground and the car body through the tires. The top speed issue, as far as I understand, is mostly a matter of the bearing friction. Smaller tires will require the bearings to spin faster. There is some inertia/momentum effect there too, where keeping "heavy" wheels spinning at a high speed may be easier than lighter/smaller ones due to that friction. And then of course, it's odd that they would include rolling over a block in a timed test, which is very dependent on wheel radius.

  • @bruhnt5063
    @bruhnt5063 Жыл бұрын

    Day 639 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back

  • @tinncan

    @tinncan

    Жыл бұрын

    You'll get more zero effort listicles and like it...

  • @kanggvng

    @kanggvng

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah I want more F2F

  • @Dragon228833

    @Dragon228833

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tinncan I ❤️ listicles

  • @beardedxj

    @beardedxj

    Жыл бұрын

    I hadn't seen you post in a while. I was worried about you. I thought you gave up.

  • @clayongunzelle9555

    @clayongunzelle9555

    Жыл бұрын

    What about all you need to know??

  • @edutiburon
    @edutiburon Жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe that suspension survived all those spacers🤣

  • @adamrichardson2227

    @adamrichardson2227

    Жыл бұрын

    RIP wheel bearings

  • @jonbradleygaming3375

    @jonbradleygaming3375

    Жыл бұрын

    Ngl, looks like a RC basher

  • @Sandux930

    @Sandux930

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr that leverage is insanity

  • @trainwreck88888
    @trainwreck88888 Жыл бұрын

    These KZread titles could be so much better. There is always more content than I expect when I watch donut

  • @andyortlieb3768

    @andyortlieb3768

    Жыл бұрын

    They can't put it all in the title or there would be nothing left for the video!

  • @Rohahahahahah

    @Rohahahahahah

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andyortlieb3768 here's a clickbaity one " 100 year old tyre vs Future Tyres" or something

  • @SmolPotatowo

    @SmolPotatowo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah honestly I was more interested in the old tires than the new ones. It's only when I saw the short of them putting the Model A tires on that I realised it was in this video.

  • @howiegruwitz3173

    @howiegruwitz3173

    Жыл бұрын

    "Goofballs think 20" tire accelerates faster than 30" tire because of its name "

  • @torysaccount5753

    @torysaccount5753

    Жыл бұрын

    It's by design, Mr Beast talked about that. You make clickbait, to catch the viewer. Then you actually do it to impress the viewer. And then you one up it to make the viewer keep watching till the end. The algorithm loves audience retention on videos, so the goal is to stop them from clicking away.

  • @douglasboyle6544
    @douglasboyle6544 Жыл бұрын

    Hats off to your editors and the spacers on this one!

  • @douglasboyle6544

    @douglasboyle6544

    Жыл бұрын

    @@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist1 um, no. Creep.

  • @RolandOfGileadOnYT

    @RolandOfGileadOnYT

    Жыл бұрын

    Really surprised the spacers hold up :)

  • @xXRaMsiisXx

    @xXRaMsiisXx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist1 let go of your wrong believes or you will never get to enter Odin's Hall in Walhalla. You'll never feast and battle with your ancestors and tell the story of you live

  • @Goon_Lagoon69420

    @Goon_Lagoon69420

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1can you not push religion into others bro

  • @stone5against1

    @stone5against1

    4 күн бұрын

    @@Goon_Lagoon69420 I'd make a joke about what you just said but.. I don't want to get banned haha

  • @rozijntje
    @rozijntje Жыл бұрын

    I can feel the pain those wheel bearings must endure.

  • @hellmaker00000

    @hellmaker00000

    Жыл бұрын

    It's fine if it's for science 😂😂

  • @treshmiranda699

    @treshmiranda699

    Жыл бұрын

    *RWB 911 has left the chat

  • @copenhunter402

    @copenhunter402

    Жыл бұрын

    The ball joints are 1000% SCREAMIN

  • @robertfish4052

    @robertfish4052

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh man it hoytz.

  • @chesterwsmith

    @chesterwsmith

    Жыл бұрын

    they must be trying to start a new money pit

  • @michaeldegen2945
    @michaeldegen2945 Жыл бұрын

    Watching a Miata rollin' on wagon wheels is just what I needed to start my day...thanks Donut!

  • @eric62backstrom

    @eric62backstrom

    Жыл бұрын

    Wagon wheels? Are we watching the same video? Those old ones are from the likes of a Ford model A. A mass produced car with an internal Combustion gas (not grass) engine!

  • @johnathanedwards9054

    @johnathanedwards9054

    Жыл бұрын

    When Henry Ford designed the Model A,he was using what was available at the time. The most readily available tire that would work would have been from a horse and cart wagon.

  • @eric62backstrom

    @eric62backstrom

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnathanedwards9054 those wheels and tires were mass-produced specifically for the model A and Model T. They are not leftovers from some horse-drawn wagon.

  • @Dud3itsj3ff
    @Dud3itsj3ff Жыл бұрын

    I’m honestly amazed to not see one tire flying off 😂

  • @Shawn_the_Protogen
    @Shawn_the_Protogen Жыл бұрын

    Tweels are also fantastic on skid steers since they act like suspension. It will be interesting to see if they do perform better when street legal versions come out.

  • @samssa7813

    @samssa7813

    Жыл бұрын

    pretty much every lift i see have these now, esoecially forklifts and telehandlers

  • @Shawn_the_Protogen

    @Shawn_the_Protogen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@samssa7813 i haven'r seen them yet on skid steers. I have on zero turn standing mowers.

  • @smoothbraindetainer

    @smoothbraindetainer

    Жыл бұрын

    Doubt there will ever BE street legal versions of these. This style of tire has been around for years and always fails to match modern tire performance, just as you can see here. They're practically only used on construction vehicles where not deflating is a much larger issue.

  • @waltcomotorsports3994
    @waltcomotorsports3994 Жыл бұрын

    Those wheel bearings are stronger than most peoples relationships 😂

  • @jonathanfairchild

    @jonathanfairchild

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrAlanmurphygood for you.

  • @DaneH64

    @DaneH64

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@MrAlanmurphy congrats?

  • @thephilosopher13

    @thephilosopher13

    2 ай бұрын

    A year later and it’s still funny 🤷‍♂️

  • @mennobros
    @mennobros Жыл бұрын

    awesome transition at 5:04! hope to grow our channel as successful as you one day. great video

  • @Youngstomata

    @Youngstomata

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean a side by side? A transition is more like at 1:56

  • @thesoundmajors9858

    @thesoundmajors9858

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Youngstomata really? if you think that's a simple side by side....nevermind you're a pro editor we forgot

  • @Youngstomata

    @Youngstomata

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thesoundmajors9858 transition: the process or a period of changing from one state or condition to another.

  • @cmrnj

    @cmrnj

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thesoundmajors9858 it is a side by side tho. jerry recorded himself cutting the tire, then recorded the talking, and grabbed the tire from where he left it in the second recording lol

  • @odyhira

    @odyhira

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cmrnj what they did there is very simple to edit in idk what the hell u guys r goin on abt

  • @FatBot
    @FatBot Жыл бұрын

    You guys have always made great stuff. And yet, your editing and transitions etc are getting better and better. Awesome work Donut!

  • @manny41p
    @manny41p Жыл бұрын

    This editing team needs an award man just 👌🏽😩

  • @m5s10
    @m5s10 Жыл бұрын

    can we just take a second to appreciate that amazing transition on 5:04

  • @ClayRepairs

    @ClayRepairs

    Жыл бұрын

    its a side by side. its basically two videos layed over the top of each other

  • @debaser38

    @debaser38

    Жыл бұрын

    beauty job. Very creative and serves the point being made.

  • @tennisontower8003

    @tennisontower8003

    Жыл бұрын

    "Transitions" like that have been a long standing feature of the channel Aging Wheels. They can be pretty fun sometimes.

  • @jonestherambler8807

    @jonestherambler8807

    Жыл бұрын

    Transition? The people cutting the tire are just working super super fast 😂

  • @evy_leevy

    @evy_leevy

    Жыл бұрын

    I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE IT WAS THE SAME GUYYYY XDDD

  • @FunwithJackson
    @FunwithJackson Жыл бұрын

    They tried those on a military humvee for a while and it worked really well.

  • @DG_427

    @DG_427

    Жыл бұрын

    That is the main purpose I suppose. Regular tires are better in almost every way, except durability. Which is exactly what you want in military application.

  • @alexisrivera200xable

    @alexisrivera200xable

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DG_427 that is to be expected the whole purpose of airless tires was to provide the military with a hardy tire resistant to gunfire or shrapnel and potentially NASA's vehicles who simply will not be able to be serviced after they are on the moon or beyond.

  • @MScotty90

    @MScotty90

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexisrivera200xable The original Lunar Rovers had airless tires, they were made out of piano wires woven into a mesh. They almost look like a giant colander.

  • @ajm5007

    @ajm5007

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MScotty90 The lunar rover tires were also designed for a (210 kg) vehicle that weighed less than 500 lbs. on earth and less than 77 lbs. on the moon, and recorded a top speed (on the moon) of 11.2 mph (18 km/h). They'd barely function as bicycle tires on earth.

  • @alexisrivera200xable

    @alexisrivera200xable

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MScotty90 Yes, you are correct, a couple of years ago Neil DeGrasse Tyson got to ride a bit on a prototype with a similar concept tires made wit a mesh. It looked interesting.

  • @ConnorHammond
    @ConnorHammond Жыл бұрын

    it's great that Overdrive use a lot of subjects you do, and you guys come back with the ol' airless tyres on a small convertible topic. Both very different channels, so keep it up!

  • @Beltryx
    @Beltryx Жыл бұрын

    They should have used modern tyres that are the same size of the old ones, since both old and airless tyres have the same size, so they wouldnt have been any advantages like small vs big ones. I know that they could have more hard to find since the unsual size, but if they wanted to do a real comparison they should've done that, but still great video 👍👍

  • @3.0colorado21

    @3.0colorado21

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea. Also, the spacers being so far out make the future tire sit on the inside edge of it so it isn’t performing how it was designed to.

  • @lasskinn474

    @lasskinn474

    Жыл бұрын

    @@3.0colorado21 the future tires sit on like 25% contact. They didn't really do like smaller wheels much 100y ago though. Maybe for a midget car or something. The bigger wheels made it smoother to ride on the crappy roads.

  • @ryurc3033

    @ryurc3033

    Жыл бұрын

    Not only the additional height, but they have additional weight. Which really effect the performance that they are tracking

  • @nutbastard

    @nutbastard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryurc3033 And not only the additional weight, the modern tires being smaller in diameter essentially gives the car lower gears, which is going to be an advantage for something that doesn't have a lot of torque at the crank.

  • @MikeDCWeld

    @MikeDCWeld

    Жыл бұрын

    They were comparing the future tires more to the past tires than the current ones, so it makes sense to use large future tires. A more valid complaint would be that they should have used a pickup or SUV for the test so that the wheels could be mounted in the wheel wells rather than needing spacers.

  • @austinknowlton1783
    @austinknowlton1783 Жыл бұрын

    Could have swore I heard 1948 Model A tire. Ford stopped using wire wheels in 1935. That was when they switched to the"wide five" safety hub and steel wheels that became almost universal equipment in early stock car racing. Also the last year for the model A was 1932. Edit; some of the reason your modern tires out accelerated the other two was due to the smaller circumference of the tire.

  • @ILOVEBACONBOY2018
    @ILOVEBACONBOY2018 Жыл бұрын

    Love the content, very cool to see these tests, also, those spacers, ouch, I thought me with my 1/4 inch old spacers on my Lincoln were sketchy! Love how the suspension held up..

  • @aidenayers2866
    @aidenayers2866 Жыл бұрын

    don’t know what i’d do without donut

  • @yohojones
    @yohojones Жыл бұрын

    Love to see Zach's Miata. That was a great series.

  • @pistolpete81675
    @pistolpete81675 Жыл бұрын

    The running over the nails on purpose is the same feeling for me as nails on a chalkboard

  • @misseselise3864

    @misseselise3864

    Жыл бұрын

    nails on a chalkboard is a sound not a feeling

  • @Nik.No.K

    @Nik.No.K

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow for me it’s the opposite. I find it very satisfying to see nails puncturing through rubber. And nails on a chalkboard IS absolutely a feeling.

  • @aghostwiener
    @aghostwiener Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the editing as well top notch production 🔥

  • @Skooozle
    @Skooozle Жыл бұрын

    8:25 Is it just me or does it seem like there's a fair amount of air between those polyurethane spokes?

  • @GiJoe94

    @GiJoe94

    8 ай бұрын

    To me it looks like a fan it probably sucks air lol

  • @jaosol8179
    @jaosol8179 Жыл бұрын

    the reason why the modern tires out performed the others is because they have been engineered and tested to get the best results for a range of harsh tire conditions. Thanks for the video it was interesting to see how the old performed vs the new

  • @On_3

    @On_3

    Жыл бұрын

    “Future” ones are ugly anyways

  • @raoulduke7844
    @raoulduke7844 Жыл бұрын

    Base stock Jeep or similar like a Bronco or 4Runner would have been a better choice for this test. You wouldn’t need so many spacers and also the design is closer to model A and the type of vehicle in mind for airless tires.

  • @jefferyvbutler

    @jefferyvbutler

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. Weird choice with the miata

  • @itznayem8441
    @itznayem8441 Жыл бұрын

    Your videos r so informative and you guys prolly have the best edits i have seen on yt

  • @hawkeallen1319
    @hawkeallen1319 Жыл бұрын

    I love the editing in this video. Top notch 👌🏻

  • @petrovic77marko
    @petrovic77marko Жыл бұрын

    Just wondering for the acceleration test, were the current day tires also 30+''? As I feel like the effective gear ratios would affect accelleration far more than rubber and contact area as I didn't see any loss of traction in the videos.

  • @ffBkLee

    @ffBkLee

    Жыл бұрын

    Stop with the realism 😂😂😂

  • @fgbhrl4907

    @fgbhrl4907

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. That's what I came to say as well. Not really a fair comparison changing wheel diameter.

  • @crewtheaftermath4105

    @crewtheaftermath4105

    Жыл бұрын

    ,,, don't .. dont do that man just enjoy the video. it was cool not 100 percent man sheesh.

  • @mike90027

    @mike90027

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, I came to say the same thing.

  • @petrovic77marko

    @petrovic77marko

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crewtheaftermath4105 sorry, didn't mean to spoil it for anyone. I just couldn't see for sure myself.

  • @huntersterba6991
    @huntersterba6991 Жыл бұрын

    “They hated lateral G’ back then” James finally said a joke i laughted at

  • @marcus_onsnapy
    @marcus_onsnapy Жыл бұрын

    You guys really make my day!!

  • @brett2themax
    @brett2themax Жыл бұрын

    This is the first good content I've seen from this channel in a long while

  • @bojow8102
    @bojow8102 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of the funnier ideas you've come up with 👍 Thank you for the videos. More B2B and D-List please 🤗

  • @Kami892
    @Kami892 Жыл бұрын

    those old tires were actually made to be able to off-road because at the time “paved” roads were rare. it made sense to see it go off-road and over the curb the best out of the 3.

  • @MadMax0417
    @MadMax0417 Жыл бұрын

    Donut is finally headed in the right direction again. I like how this video combines aspects from everyones previous respective shows

  • @taylor7334
    @taylor7334 Жыл бұрын

    It's really cool to watch donut media grow from mainly info and history in a straight forward yet still entertaining, to a company that actually provides better tests then the current version of top gear without Jeremy, may, and Hammond. Plus the podcast and hi low projects, they have learned how to juggle multiple really good projects. ❤️⛽🏎️🚓

  • @LandoMercy
    @LandoMercy Жыл бұрын

    I cannot explain how happy it makes me to see the Miata back

  • @durrani3799
    @durrani3799 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see how the airless tires react to really muddy terrain

  • @Dusty.Does.it.

    @Dusty.Does.it.

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably would suck tbh. Mud would fill the groves and cause the tire to weigh alot more. With a Miata you’d feel the strain in the engine to spin them

  • @seraphimvalkyrin4543

    @seraphimvalkyrin4543

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dusty.Does.it. But that would happen with normal off road tires too. Not really an airless tire specific problem.

  • @Dusty.Does.it.

    @Dusty.Does.it.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seraphimvalkyrin4543 there’s much more empty space that can be filled using the “future tires”

  • @Iosis6

    @Iosis6

    Жыл бұрын

    They have show them with normal looking sidewalls to keep things out of them. Maybe that will actually be an option

  • @esurles1

    @esurles1

    Жыл бұрын

    and rocks getting inside them lol

  • @peejayoo4177
    @peejayoo4177 Жыл бұрын

    Yes donut this is what we like to see

  • @crewtheaftermath4105
    @crewtheaftermath4105 Жыл бұрын

    Really great! Nice editing! super fun and informative.

  • @smaspa8627
    @smaspa8627 Жыл бұрын

    Great production on this

  • @colbyanderson9464
    @colbyanderson9464 Жыл бұрын

    I would think the increase in tire size would change the results massively, not just the year or design of the tire

  • @Dubtee
    @Dubtee Жыл бұрын

    Those "future" tires might be slower, but did you see how it handled offloading? The benefit I see of airless tires is more travel. Like suspension in your wheel. I think once the materials and processes to make those things gets figured out, airless tires will be a godsend for folks who drive off road, or on roads with a lot of potholes. (every country road)

  • @bubbleman2002

    @bubbleman2002

    Жыл бұрын

    Airless tires will never work, we have been trying for the better part of 100 years, it isn't a new idea, just like all of Elon Musk's "ideas". See: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIVkl7Sbd8SWqrA.html The only way airless tires can work is if there's a world altering materials engineering breakthrough, the way I see it.

  • @Ichibuns

    @Ichibuns

    Жыл бұрын

    It should do great. I do want to see how the design would eject mud and snow from inside the tire. It could go off balance quickly

  • @jaelfragoso1537

    @jaelfragoso1537

    Жыл бұрын

    This why mowers have them. These help soooo much on hills

  • @sylfraeaveniore2684

    @sylfraeaveniore2684

    Жыл бұрын

    can't wait for icy off-roading wonder how those would fare

  • @LaplacianFourier
    @LaplacianFourier Жыл бұрын

    8:30,Makes 0 sense about air transferring heat. The future tires is literally a heat sink and a fan combined when moving. 😂

  • @benridesmtb5748
    @benridesmtb5748 Жыл бұрын

    This was sooooo funny. Thank you for making the best videos.

  • @cngodfather
    @cngodfather Жыл бұрын

    There are so many variables in this comparison that it really isn't even coming close to making them equal. Good video to see some comparisons. It would not be cost effective to try to do an apples to apples comparison. It is good enough for a simple demonstration. I am a fan. Love what you guys do. keep it up!

  • @electricheartpony

    @electricheartpony

    4 ай бұрын

    Remove uneeded spacers, keep better consistency with paths and control of the car. Then it'll be a bit better of comparison. Fun video to watch, not great for good comparisons. Which seem to be a lot of their videos.

  • @rpmracing6302
    @rpmracing6302 Жыл бұрын

    I can’t imagine the pain that those wheel studs just went through

  • @shalabazertheboltstruck8645
    @shalabazertheboltstruck8645 Жыл бұрын

    Dude!!! That format lately is just amazing!! All the best parts of donut ever, in every single episode 💪 hat's off for you guys

  • @chrisbychris6933
    @chrisbychris6933 Жыл бұрын

    Did my first oil change on my truck and wore Donut hat to recycle old oil. Guy recognized it😎 thanks donut

  • @AR_P71
    @AR_P71 Жыл бұрын

    It would be a better test if the tread types and patterns were all more similar.

  • @Boycott_Wendys

    @Boycott_Wendys

    Жыл бұрын

    Also larger diameter tires are more difficult to stop

  • @davidusi27
    @davidusi27 Жыл бұрын

    the editing on this was dope!

  • @ghostsmoke11
    @ghostsmoke11 Жыл бұрын

    slick editing this episode, very nice

  • @siegewolf7834
    @siegewolf7834 Жыл бұрын

    One invention that can't be reinvented, it's just perfect

  • @knightwalkr
    @knightwalkr Жыл бұрын

    I saw these tested on a hmmv in 2000. They destroyed like 50 sets on sand. It’s kind of interesting to see how far they have come

  • @TinBumG
    @TinBumG Жыл бұрын

    The editing skills on this one are 🔥🔥🔥

  • @CollinWillson
    @CollinWillson Жыл бұрын

    Love it, lawnmower tires on a Miata haha. Can't wait for y'all to test the road tweels when Michelin makes them public.

  • @OXex_Reclaier
    @OXex_Reclaier Жыл бұрын

    I never thought i would be interested in watching a video about tires

  • @sirhcmi3
    @sirhcmi3 Жыл бұрын

    The key thing I don’t see the future tires overcoming any time soon is the ability to adjust tire pressure to suit auto weight and driving conditions. With current tires I found that I get the best traction when I am a couple psi over recommended on one axle and a couple psi under on the other. On my truck I’ll lower the pressure for sand or snow… None of that can be done with those solid tires.

  • @karlfriedrich7758

    @karlfriedrich7758

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not quite true that you can't adjust the "pressure" with airless tyres. There are a few versions that do allow that and it's done through adjusting the spoke tension. This would have some advantages over standard pneumatics since you can stagger the compliance to make a round tyre more star shaped, effectively giving you more paddle-like effect which would be tremendous in mud and certain situations on sand, even rock climbing. Would obviously take longer since you need to adjust multiple bolts but airing up with a run-of-the-mill compressor takes forever too. Also side note, I'm not quite sure why you're ever over-inflating on the track, that reduces your grip. The question is whether that going to be among the first models of these tyres released and I doubt it. I imagine it would be a long way down the line. Off roading is a niche compared to the commuter market. 99% of people never need to air down their tyres, even just in the emissions savings from underaired tyres and the safety benefits of avoiding overaired tyres and blowouts makes airless seem like a good option.

  • @spotimpact.

    @spotimpact.

    Жыл бұрын

    You'd get less traction by over inflating

  • @jazzingpanda3190
    @jazzingpanda3190 Жыл бұрын

    I pray for that MX-5, went through some torture with all those spacers. Bearings be in some real pain. Nice video though, wasn’t really aware of these airless tyres before now. Looks a cool concept with more development needed. To those in the know, how far do run flats like on some BMWs fair here? Yes they only *should* be driven on for X miles after a puncture, but they do help alleviate the puncture problem temporarily with modern air tyres I guess. Would be cool to see a donut video on runflats!

  • @jazzingpanda3190

    @jazzingpanda3190

    Жыл бұрын

    @Max Power how do you mean? I thought runflats functioned like normal tires do they not?

  • @biggabenne
    @biggabenne Жыл бұрын

    the wheel size differences in diameter and width contribute to the performance differences, the weight reduction difference on the RPF-1's are very significant

  • @johnterpack3940
    @johnterpack3940 Жыл бұрын

    Puncture proofing isn't the biggest advantage to the airless tires. The biggest advantage is the ability to tune ride and handling separately. Because of the way those spokes work it is possible to make their lateral stiffness and longitudinal stiffness different. So you can have a really soft riding tire on your Miata without losing any cornering ability.

  • @thunder4276
    @thunder4276 Жыл бұрын

    5 min silence for those who are still waiting for turbocharged miata

  • @ben501st

    @ben501st

    Жыл бұрын

    What do you mean?

  • @youngskunk
    @youngskunk Жыл бұрын

    I havent watched in acouple years cant believe the sucess! Love to see it!

  • @chanderkanthanspal7287
    @chanderkanthanspal7287 Жыл бұрын

    for an off-road tire the future tires did great

  • @kazmix2321
    @kazmix2321 Жыл бұрын

    Ah nothing better than a donut media video in the morning

  • @davidc756

    @davidc756

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s 14:20 here in Austria. Best thing to watch donut media after school

  • @wilmotown
    @wilmotown Жыл бұрын

    I like the idea of airless tires. I know they won’t have nearly as much dynamic ability as regular tires but they seem like they make good sense for most cars, although the fact that they don’t brake as quickly as regular tires is something that needs fixed before they can sell them to most consumers.

  • @asandax6

    @asandax6

    Жыл бұрын

    At first I was like why would they need to fix them if they last longer? Then I remembered profit has to be made.

  • @guillermo_fdez7997

    @guillermo_fdez7997

    Жыл бұрын

    @@asandax6 he says brake, not break. Important difference!

  • @asandax6

    @asandax6

    Жыл бұрын

    @@guillermo_fdez7997 Ohh my bad. Someone call Mr Beast I might also be blind.

  • @johnbenz7573

    @johnbenz7573

    Жыл бұрын

    they just need to be adding anchors

  • @envysmith6832
    @envysmith6832 Жыл бұрын

    My favorite part of the video was Jeremiah going all science and engineerin on me. Love that shit mate!

  • @josealmeida1713
    @josealmeida1713 Жыл бұрын

    This videos are always so entertaining. Keep it up

  • @jacobrev6567
    @jacobrev6567 Жыл бұрын

    I glad to see Zach his Miata again on dount media show

  • @ronochow
    @ronochow Жыл бұрын

    For the airless tires, isn't it the ribs that are more likely to overheat (due to repetitive flexing) rather than the tire tread itself? With the open design, you could dissipate the heat rather quickly with that much surface area exposed and air being pumped in and out when the tire deforms.

  • @Iguana93

    @Iguana93

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, they said it wrong with the reason for overheating... Air is actually a better insulator than plastic and in a tire, air doesn't "help disipate heat" - the airless tire actually has much more cooling due to its sides admitting cold air from outside. What overheats the airless tires is the rapid flexing and stretching of its spokes and obviously the heat combined with cyclic deformation is what makes the spokes fail. In a traditional air tire, the cyclic deformation is much gentler and air as a "spring material" doesn't wear out. I'm pretty sure the airless tires also impact fuel efficiency - if you have two tires and one of them runs hotter than the other, that means it's converting more of the engine energy into waste heat at the expense of motion. That's obviously the reason why it achieves worse times on the Miata.

  • @albea1695
    @albea1695 Жыл бұрын

    Pretty slick editing there Donut

  • @dpmjmun
    @dpmjmun Жыл бұрын

    i loved the passing the tire transition

  • @madeintexas3d442
    @madeintexas3d442 Жыл бұрын

    This Miata has what can only be described as "A Whistling Diesel amount of wheel spacers" lol.

  • @davidfischer7528
    @davidfischer7528 Жыл бұрын

    These edits maaaan, props to the editing team and director :D Love IT!

  • @sannyassi73
    @sannyassi73 Жыл бұрын

    Those spacers are glorious!

  • @stevenbunch9369
    @stevenbunch9369 Жыл бұрын

    Remember when donut used to make cool videos about car history and did in depth car features?

  • @tookuh
    @tookuh Жыл бұрын

    How is no one talking about the great editing on this video? Donuts put in quite an amount of effort on this

  • @cristhopersanchez2449
    @cristhopersanchez2449 Жыл бұрын

    I'm assuming the camber angle was affected by the adapters, I'm curious if they would perform better if adjusted for their widths and diameters.

  • @chrisward9328

    @chrisward9328

    Жыл бұрын

    Camber was because of the massive spacers acting like a huge lever on the suspension and making it sit lower

  • @michaelmurray7199
    @michaelmurray7199 Жыл бұрын

    0:45 There are no problems mon, just situations. I think the reason why the airless tires didn’t perform as well as the ‘modern’ tires is because you were using an off-road tread pattern. That type of tread pattern is great for off-roading, but aren’t too great on paved roads, plus they tend to be a bit noisy when driving on paved roads.

  • @yugolad4123
    @yugolad4123 Жыл бұрын

    Sick video and amazing editing

  • @AlessandroGenTLe
    @AlessandroGenTLe Жыл бұрын

    Smaller tires have an advantage also because they're smaller so it's like to have a shorter gears respect to the bigger ones.

  • @WileHeCoyote

    @WileHeCoyote

    Жыл бұрын

    They should have just made spacers for a modern tire (of equivalent diameter) and the old tube tire, to fit a razor side by side. Would have been a much more useful and accurate comparison

  • @alexislaisney3404

    @alexislaisney3404

    Жыл бұрын

    No. The center rotation will be the same making bigger tires circumference move faster to keep up with the center speed. 22 inch tire multiple by 3.14 is the measurement of how far the trip moves in one rotation 30 inch tire by 3.14 is more than a smaller tire making the bigger tires have the advantage.

  • @nutbastard

    @nutbastard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexislaisney3404 Bigger wheel = higher top speed with less torque. This isn't a problem when you have lots of torque on tap, but it's a Miata. The OP is correct that smaller tires are effectively a lower final drive gear.

  • @AlessandroGenTLe

    @AlessandroGenTLe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexislaisney3404 sorry, you're reasoning in the wrong way: it's the engine the source of power, not the tires. Bigger tires = with 1 rotation (from engine power) you move the vehicle further. Since the engine has the same power regardless of the wheels, and the same reduction ratio at the gearbox, and bigger tires = more space at the same angular speed, then either you need more power or you'll be slower. Exactly like a higher gear ratio. And do you accelerate faster in 1st or 2nd gear?

  • @kuma_score7536
    @kuma_score7536 Жыл бұрын

    I think my biggest possible issue with those airless tires is weight, you would need to make them per car model and they'd struggle to account for large changes like adding aero, loading up cargo, running with multiple passengers so on so forth.

  • @dandiaz19934
    @dandiaz19934 Жыл бұрын

    SO INTERESTING!! i'm glad I found your guyss channel, even though I'm just a car muggle

  • @da_SpiffR
    @da_SpiffR Жыл бұрын

    Sweet script, graphics and editing boys... loved the video!

  • @MAR-SHALL
    @MAR-SHALL Жыл бұрын

    Is it just me, or is James kinda Diva'ish in this episode? You can tell he's making big KZread 💰🤑. Good for him and all of them.

  • @drizzin
    @drizzin Жыл бұрын

    Donut hiring some wizards for their videos now. Looking slick. Great Video!

  • @Kytetiger
    @Kytetiger Жыл бұрын

    I see all around my city that aerial work platforms on construction sites already uses these kind of tweels for the last couple of years

  • @theoverlord3839
    @theoverlord3839 Жыл бұрын

    Because of different tire diameters, the non stock ones have less torque and therefore suck at accelerating as the smaller tyres are made specifically for the car

  • @cazziedriver
    @cazziedriver Жыл бұрын

    That spacer setup is terrifying😂 Am I wrong for thinking it actually looks pretty good with the Model A wheels on it though?

  • @centuryhelix8727

    @centuryhelix8727

    Жыл бұрын

    Lookin like something from Mario Kart and I love it

  • @cazziedriver

    @cazziedriver

    Жыл бұрын

    @@centuryhelix8727 LOL I could see it! But the real question is: Wagon Wheel MoneyPit Miata in FH5 when???

  • @locolalo1364
    @locolalo1364 Жыл бұрын

    this video was sponsored by modern day big tire co. don't trust anything they say. Future is the way to go.

  • @epicthief

    @epicthief

    Жыл бұрын

    If anything slower speed = safer for pedestrian

  • @liamguensche1122
    @liamguensche1122 Жыл бұрын

    big air payed for this video total hit piece

  • @motorboatski
    @motorboatski Жыл бұрын

    Tire Streets and Donut Media collab when?? 🤔 They've got all the Acceleras you'll ever need.

  • @Jeffrey_Tyler
    @Jeffrey_Tyler Жыл бұрын

    I love the videos like this. It's always disappointing when a video this interesting and cool is only 11 minutes long 🙁 I'd think each tire could have at least its own 20 minute video. But I'm also not the one that built and runs one of the top automotive reporting/entertainment outlets that's out today.

  • @ssuspicoii9765

    @ssuspicoii9765

    Жыл бұрын

    I think they changed their style of content to be more fun and short than informative

  • @benson8686

    @benson8686

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually enjoy videos that are about this long. Easy to fit into a busy day.

  • @Swampfox12345
    @Swampfox12345 Жыл бұрын

    I think Money Pit just earned a new nickname: the Water Strider cuz that's what it looks like with the wheels 6' from the bodywork 😂

  • @katanavx0331

    @katanavx0331

    Жыл бұрын

    Money Pit Miata* :P

  • @Swampfox12345

    @Swampfox12345

    Жыл бұрын

    @@katanavx0331 obv I was referring to the car not the dead series 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @davidklein1776
    @davidklein1776 Жыл бұрын

    I love how we watched this video today in our auto class.

  • @nathanf.8418
    @nathanf.8418 Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate this video. I feel like Donut is heading back to their roots.

  • @cenciende9401

    @cenciende9401

    Жыл бұрын

    They have never left their roots. Get a clue.

  • @brake_on301
    @brake_on301 Жыл бұрын

    hey everyone at donut you guys have been going above and beyond with your content and i just want to say i really appreciate the work you all put into your videos to make some of the best car content on youtube. I would really appreciate it if you heart this comment. goodluck!

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