Very intelligent, well thought out reply to this topic. The problem with my statement about TQ plates refer to engines producing 2.5 hp/cid or higher. Very efficient high revving engines with rings .026 thick are extremely touchy in regards to ring seal and .0002 is a target tolerance. This man is 109% correct on the context and points he brings up. One major point here is, he didn’t pay for it. Second point about the .0004-.0005. Variance for a stock or mild performance engine is, as he stated, insignificant. I remember saying the comment about not using TQ plates and being on drugs. I said it. I was ignorant of the context here and should have asks for specifics before I shot my mouth off. Context matters

@powellmachineinc3179

11 күн бұрын

Ty for clarification on your statement and I really appreciate you taking the time to chime in and set the record straight!

@thejackofeverything7961

11 күн бұрын

Probably makes the factory hone look like hot garbage any way lol

@r.peters4314

10 күн бұрын

@@thejackofeverything7961 ❤

@flexmasterson4297

9 күн бұрын

Folks need to give all of their argument parameters to the gentleman when they make their argument, or it wastes a lot of the gentleman’s time, which he is giving out free of charge on KZread along with his trade knowledge and tricks and dos and songs and so forth.

@Mr688895

5 күн бұрын

The really sad thing that got missed here is no one that I saw asked the going rate of unicorn farts. Seems to me catching and bottling that for resale would be extremely expensive not to mention time consuming. Keep up the great work and the great videos and thank you for the time.

I came for the torque plate knowledge and stayed watching for the short bus jokes

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Lol

@hackaboom

15 күн бұрын

same.

@NickKautz

14 күн бұрын

When someone says "I learned from so and so" it makes me think they don't actually understand what they are doing. Because if they did, their knowledge would have surpassed whoever taught them by now and they wouldn't need or want to depend on someone else for credibility.

@Group_Anonymous

13 күн бұрын

Hwhat is a torque plate??? 🫨

@NickKautz

13 күн бұрын

@@garlandjones7709 We all learn from other people, good and bad. But I think if I can't prove myself with only logic of the matter at hand, I probably don't know it well enough.

I couldn’t have been dignified in schooling keyboard warriors the way you have. Kudos.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Ty 100

@Moparmaga-1

15 күн бұрын

Was the guys name Bob Mopar ?​@@powellmachineinc3179

@stevebates5973

14 күн бұрын

@@powellmachineinc3179 he means that he wouldn't have been as kind as you were in describing how idiotic the one demanding a torque plate hone on grannies LS wagon.../

Dad used to say "A little Bit of Knowledge is a Dangerous Thing" and "Those who think they know what they are doing, piss off those of us who do"

@hackaboom

15 күн бұрын

aint that the truth.

@skylinefever

14 күн бұрын

People on reddit and 4chan call those know it alls midwits.

@Scummy_shovel

13 күн бұрын

Goes with what my grandfather told me. “Education is expensive. Regardless of how you get it. If it’s knowledge worth having it’s going to cost you something. Some how. Some way. You’re paying”. And it’s usually with experience

@gags730

12 күн бұрын

Great Comment. Since the invention of things like KZread I have never met more people in my life that are 'Experts' on not just 1 thing but many and yet have never done the work or job EVER.... Watching a couple of hours of Surgery does not make anyone a Brain Surgeon. If you read the comments you wonder why anyone would have a problem finding a machinist, a mechanic, a transmission guy etc. I'm shocked I don't see Lathes and Milling machines thrown out on every block and find Mitutoyo Calipers and Starett micrometers at every garage sale or auction you go to 😂 With all these experts I am shocked anything is broken anywhere! I gotta run because I have to watch two videos on how a build an addition and remodel my kitchen so that I know more than the guy who is doing work on my house with 25 years experience. The wife said I was too busy, so I had to subcontract that part of my life out! hahaha! She didnt do it because I don't have the experience, as she knows I can get all that in just a weekend on KZread like all tyhe other experts out there! hahaha

I agree with you 100%. The other side of commenters is, if you were Torque plate honing stock blocks... they'd be calling you a rip off atrist and accusing you of padding the bill. Couple of years ago, my LC9 ate a lifter. While I had the heads off, I had them surfaced and my exhaust manifolds belt sanded. This is a work truck. No mee seats, no new guides, no nee springs. Dropped the heads off on Monday got em back on Wednesday. Truck was running again on Thursday. Machine shop charged me 300 bucks. It aint a race car, and every minute its not on the road costs me money. I didn't have 2 weeks to wait for all that to be done. For what a 15 year old truck with 200k miles on it? Thank God there's honest machinists like you out there.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Thank you sir!!

@bigjim8088

13 күн бұрын

Exactly some people just dont know anything other than what they have read or seen with certain vehicles. With most common situations its not necessary to go all out people just want it to run good. They dont want a race car.

Gotta love the internet experts that have never done anything but dingleball their small block. I admire your ability to stay calm! Keep preaching reality, brother.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Ty!!

@brianf8621

15 күн бұрын

But they dingleballed with a torque plate. 😂😂

@jonelford4513

15 күн бұрын

@@brianf8621 As well they should! 😂

@billweston6579

14 күн бұрын

You gotta love the internet and it’s information. How many manufacturers use torque plates when manufacturing new engines. Lol

@stevebates5973

14 күн бұрын

@@billweston6579 Yeah, the manufacturers don't waste the time torque plate the engine to begin with. Why do it for the wifes Tahoe?

Very decent of this gentleman to share his several decades of experience building and fixing combustion engines so us weekend warriors know where to spend our pennies and where not to spend our pennies. Thank you, Sir.

@powellmachineinc3179

9 күн бұрын

Well said!

100% agree with this 🙌. I'm an engine reconditioner in Australia 🇦🇺 and had my own business but got sick of dealing with these type of wankers who know more (with no trade qualifications) or know a friend that can do it cheaper. That's why I shut my business down, kept all my machines and now just machine my own race engines. keep up the good work mate, love your videos👍👍👍

Two of the reasons I pay people is for their knowledge and experience. One thing money cannot buy is integrity.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Facts

@logancarter2134

15 күн бұрын

Exactly!!!

@logancarter2134

15 күн бұрын

Exactly!!!

As a machine shop owner I simply cannot thank you enough for this video !!!!! And your other videos. Keep it up :)

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching! And ur very welcome!

Some people see all this stuff on KZread and don't understand that building high end race engines is a completely different thing than building daily drivers, or hacking together used parts to get a broke customer back on the road. Keep getting it done man.

@andrewslagle1974

13 күн бұрын

Or a budget weekend race car !

@VinnyMartello

12 күн бұрын

Exactly. I’ve dingled and Jerry-rigged plenty of old small blocks to keep them running. I’ve done full rebuilds and I just eyeballed the crankshaft and said “yeah it looks okay” and slapped on new bearings. Said motor is already 3000 miles into the hillbilly rebuild and runs better than it ever has (in my memory).

@celestialmachine

12 күн бұрын

This. Its insane to me reading what some people suggest to do to a DD. The tolerancecs and pressures are just so wildly different than a fully built, sleeved, girdled, billet block that its just incomparable. I'm not building a 9 second car with a stroker that hits 8.5k. I'm trying to have fun heading to the grocery store or out on a country drive.

@karltite128

12 күн бұрын

Ever witnessed a shade tree rebuild on a daily that works just fine? Then you have witnessed a reality.

I watched a video of a guy building a BMW s38 inline six. The head bolts are more than an inch from the bores. He had a torque plate made before he honed it. I dont think that he had 4/10 change. It was almost none. Look what happens to the bores on a 400/440 mopar with a torque plate, the head bolt threads are almost in the cylinder wall. Youre right about giving the customer what they need, i know one guy that will not swap a piston on a stock engine for another stock piston without balancing the rotating assembly. It was a head gasket/hydrolock issue and it pinched the rings. I told him to just grab a $20 used piston/rod off ebay to get it running and he wanted to pull the whole thing down and balance...the stock pistons and rods. It was like arguing with mud trying to tell him that he was wasting a huge amount of resources to get a stock truck engine running again.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely

@NBSV1

14 күн бұрын

People like that would probably be shocked if they saw the tolerance on piston and rod weights in a stock engine. They think everything needs to match to the hundredth of a gram or else the engine is going to rattle itself apart.

@timothybayliss6680

13 күн бұрын

​@@NBSV1i even linked a magazine article showing that for most stuff under 6k rpm that 1/4oz inch is probably fine. You arent gonna notice that at 2200rpm on the freeway. Its already 100+k miles old and just needs to get going.

You are exactly 100% correct. I own a machine shop and 3/4's these commenters have never operated any equipment!

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely

@JusSkott

13 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 You would be amazed what someone can do with a hole saw, and then wrap it with sandpaper to hone. 🤣🤣🤣

Excellent explanation, on the context subject. When, something needs to be done and when it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Thank you, Daniel.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Can’t believe that all those years before torque plates a one of those bored engines ever ran.

@strokermaverick

15 күн бұрын

Can't believe any of my teenage dingle berry honed engines made the 45 minute drive to the dragstrip, ran 7.90's. Then drove to work and get groceries, etc. In my 50's now. Time and place for certain things, as Daniel said.🤝

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Exactly

@stevebates5973

14 күн бұрын

@@strokermaverick My '73 Capri with 302/T5 ran 12.01 sec 1/4s for years, after a dingle ball hone and fresh pistons. 5 years later it ran an 11.50 balls out...

Best damn engine machining channel on the tube!

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Idk about that's, but I do appreciate the encouragement!

@Expedition18

15 күн бұрын

Got that right.👍

@logancarter2134

15 күн бұрын

YEP!!!

@richardlapoint1845

14 күн бұрын

​@powellmachineinc3179 machining is a lost art. Aren't alot of good machine shops left. Keep fighting the good fight 💪🏻

I don't always use my dingle berry hone but when I do I use 2 torque plates for extra accuracy. Super Pro tip.

@powellmachineinc3179

14 күн бұрын

Great tip!

@DownHillgamer

7 күн бұрын

Yeah screw a sunnen power stroker we got the ryobi powered dingle berries

Excellent video, thank you! I'm kinda grateful to the guy who "No torqueplate ???"ed you because I learned so much.

@powellmachineinc3179

14 күн бұрын

Glad to help

I'm so glad to finally see a logical and valid explanation of the way this helps and when it doesn't. And why and when we are truly wasting our time and money. For close to 35 years of building my engines, I never have understood the need to torque plate bore and hone these factory blocks that are mostly too thin for any real gains. It's just never really made any sense to me. I couldn't prove anything, but I just knew to not waste money on it for my street driven vehicles. Yeah, they were warmed up a bit, but I never had issues with ring seating or blow by.

@powellmachineinc3179

10 күн бұрын

Ty, we appreciate you

Well haha. Aint never used a torque plate for my donuts... and they eat just fine. Mr. Powell you are absolutely right on matching the customer for their budget and use of work. Built a lot of engines and never once did it occur to me to question a reputable machinist. Great video and shows the the other side of what a business owner deals with. Thumbs up.

@powellmachineinc3179

11 күн бұрын

Right on

Logic and common sense outweighs nonsense day in and day out, keep it up!

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Ty

Thank you for being a concientious machinist thats why i watch your channel by the way been building engines since 1971. Dont let these monday morning halfbacks get to you that said i understand your frustration. If you need to vent now or in the future feel free to use me

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

💯

I've seen things done to engines that would make a north americans head spin. "You need CNC, XYZ, Jigg it, surface the deck, straightened it, line hone it, blah blah". Its mostly nonsense and agree with you. There are other "reputable" builders who sell these services as a must have, but are just conning people out of their money. Thanks for being truly stand up and honest.

@powellmachineinc3179

11 күн бұрын

Yep

Ahh yes you hit the absolute home run with this. I’m just a simple mechanical engineer that designed a lot of close tolerance parts that actually worked and the two things that matter, end result and temperature. Keep doing what got you here. Thanks! 😊

@powellmachineinc3179

13 күн бұрын

Tyvm!

I'm actually glad that guy made a bunch of stupid comments, because you made a video, and now I learned a lot about torque plates I did not know before.

@powellmachineinc3179

12 күн бұрын

Awesome, I'm glad it helps

High school physics had a thermal dynamics module when I went to school. Lots of experiments to demonstrate how thickness and material affect expansion and repeated contraction. You are something else, giving an armchair engineer any credit by trying to educate them has to be frustrating! You are the only engine builder I subscribe to, you are modest and detailed with data and analysis of what you work on. I will how ever use your unicorn farts and fairy dust analogy! Stay calm and prosper!

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Lol, thank you, I really appreciate that!!

I smiled through this whole video, and laughed more than a few times. Absolute SPOT ON info. The examples were fantastic couldn’t stop laughing at the this is “fantasy land “ comment , so true 😂 great video killer real world examples

@powellmachineinc3179

4 күн бұрын

Tyvm! I really appreciate that

Love listening to someone speak on their area of expertise, keep doing your thing man

@powellmachineinc3179

12 күн бұрын

I really appreciate that

You can't win arguments with stupid people, they will drag you down too their level and beat you with experience!

@richardtemple8141

15 күн бұрын

Mark Twain's words. Never a truer word spoken.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

💯

I always learn something when you answer the comments thanks for the Info.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Any time!

Grew up in auto machine shop 30 years with it & you are sharing simple truths, especially about never holding a torque plate in your hand. High end aftermarket blocks true to your telling yes are near perfect I always send mine off now that I’m out that business to friends at big shop & request torque plate , deck & line hone but they never need it , once the world product name on the outer front of head where nothing touches blipped .002, lol

@powellmachineinc3179

11 күн бұрын

Definitely

As an engine builder myself…. I absolutely loved your response to the internet knowitalls!!!😁 it’s simply amazing a person will tell you how to do something…. But CANNOT change his own oil without fawking it all up!!! Or change plugs one at a time and still cross the wires!!! But going to tell me how to build. $30,000 race engine?? Why did you bring it to me sir??? Oh yea …..🤦‍♂️ you read on the internet!!!!🤷‍♂️🤣😂 I definitely applaud you sir!!!👍😁

@powellmachineinc3179

6 күн бұрын

Absolutely 💯!!

The comparison to the FE with head threads right at the deck vs deep into the block is excellent.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely

Absolutely love your content! Very informative to an enthusiast like myself, and my hats off to your patient and measured approach to educating people like myself.

@powellmachineinc3179

4 күн бұрын

Ty, we really appreciate that

Daniel, you have a very high patience tolerance, that I really admire. excellent communication and delivery with total control. Be very content with your response. My recommendation is to go and lift some weights and release the stress. everybody loves to learn and you are a good teacher. sad to hear that some people think they can surpass the master with a couple of 60-minute videos. Just laugh and move on. Armchair specialists. Mate your honesty and very good explanations tell it all.

@powellmachineinc3179

11 күн бұрын

I do that every morning!!

BAHAHA I love the photo of the short bus. You are such a standup guy. I admire you so much. You're accent is awesome, you're good looking, you know you're stuff, and you teach me in a way that no one could. Thank you brother.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!!

My God when he said you should be riding a short bus I spit my coffee all over my dash... it's his accent and people assume the way he sound he isn't a smart guy. Jokes on you. He is pretty God damn smart and on point .

@powellmachineinc3179

13 күн бұрын

I'm just average, but I really appreciate the encouragement

alot of people out there just want to bring others down and look or think they are superior don't let it get to you man. it is obvious to me that you are a good dude and do what you think is right that is all we can do definitely not going to please everyone.

Really enjoy your informative videos. I’m almost 73, been an industrial mechanic my whole career working with some of the best machinists in the country, with a past hobby of building and racing dirt cars. I’m well past that but I’m building a ‘33 ford kit car. I’m gonna be running a teksid block 4.6L 4v. Back in my engine building days, I always had my stuff honed with torque plates just because it made sense to distort the block as if the heads were on. (I had a machine shop $ponsor). So, I’m trying to soak up everything I can prior to my engine build. I now know I don’t have to torque plate my block so thanks for saving me money. I really appreciate your content so keep ‘em coming! Mike Gallagher

@powellmachineinc3179

3 күн бұрын

I'm about to do a mod engine

@mikegallagher8355

3 күн бұрын

@@powellmachineinc3179 I’ll be on the lookout! Thanks

I freaking love this channel. I will watch rants like this all day long. This is honestly one of Americas biggest downfalls in today’s age. People are just to impressed with their own opinions. The funny commercials,I stayed in holiday inn express last night comes to mind

@powellmachineinc3179

14 күн бұрын

💯, I remember those!

Sir, you are a GENTLEMAN AND A SCHOLAR! And I mean that in all seriousness and from the bottom of my heart. Your point that it's not right to charge people for things they don't need or want is EPIC and the proof for my original statement.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

We really appreciate that, and we always try to treat people fairly

@logancarter2134

15 күн бұрын

@@powellmachineinc3179 as someone said below money cannot buy integrity! That's a truth through the generations. You have integrity Sir. It's one of the most valuable things you posses.

@darksu6947

15 күн бұрын

​@@logancarter2134He reminds me a lot of my father who has ran a body shop for the last 40 years and has never overcharged or taken advantage of anyone. He seems like a very intelligent and honest man.......just like dear ol' dad 😁

Very well explained and addressed. People these days feel like they always have to challenge people that know WAY more than they do. They are ways to respectfully ask a question and then there is showing your ignorance with a simple comment. It does get hard to keep biting your tongue when they keep at it. You did well sir. And as always, thank you for the knowledge. 💪

I am so glad to see someone with a you tub Channel finally stand up to some of these stupid people that make these dumb comments. This man is a professional engine builder. Who in their right mind would be so dumb to question what he does every day for a living. The man is right. I own my own business and some people want to argue with me win I tell them what they need. Well if you know what you need then why did you call me? People don't get it. This man knows what he is doing. Stop the dumb questions. Thanks for what you do.

This cat heard Darren Morgan's name on either KZread or in a magazine and thought it would give grit to what he was saying.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Probably

Love your machining skills and truthfulness to the people who need education on what you “professionally “ do! Spending or suggesting where your customers will gain benefits from what you do and the cost to them will give you more work than you can handle. One thing I’ve learned is word of mouth reference of your honesty is priceless. Thanks for the vids keep em coming!

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

I appreciate that!

Oh, no! Not the TP police 😆 Gotta love all the KZread “experts” eh? Every channel has its fair share of experts in whatever the channel is about. Great explanation on torque plates!

@powellmachineinc3179

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's irritating 😒

The only concerned I had about boring a block was this excessive rust in the cylinders, and the guy that taught me how to be a good machinist at this amazing answer about rust, and I'm just going to use the word pinhole. You guys figured out on your own what I mean.

I've owned 3 small business since 1997 and it's amazing what customers expect you to do for them for FREE. It never ends. I have a slogan. "I'd rather do NOTHING, than do something for NOTHING". I've told several customers that, flat out. I had one customer say in a snarky tone, "Well, how much could it possibly cost"? Like what work I perform is somehow insignificant compared to their need to get it for free.

@powellmachineinc3179

14 күн бұрын

Facts

The title of this video should be: "How to school squerrils 101“. You are a patient man brother. WAY more so than Me.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Lol

people these days on the internet aren't worried about the truth or the facts just worried about being right. you hit the nail on the head.

Right on! If you don't need micron tolerance round holes; you don't need a torque plate. I've bored hundreds of cylinders at the motorcycle shop, never used a torque plate. Ironically when I needed the cylinder bored for my race bike I took it to a guy!

@powellmachineinc3179

10 күн бұрын

Absolutely

Special bus…. had me 😂

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Lol

@stevebates5973

14 күн бұрын

@@powellmachineinc3179 SWMBO (she who must be obeyed) was asking what I was Laughing at, then she laughed...

Good explanation. You are correct. An experienced man in a critical business he is dedicated to shouldn't have to defend himself against that stuff. Good job, sir. Thanks

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Well said

I love your accent dude and the slight sarcasm and you’re 100% right you gotta pay for the service that you want

@powellmachineinc3179

12 күн бұрын

Absolutely! Ty

Holy crap Dan… So much hostility. You’d think that y’all do this for a living…😂

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Ha....

Very good explanation, the lawnmower comment was great 😂

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Lol

Thanks for telling it like it is. I do custom one-off prototype manual and CNC machining jobs in my home shop, you know, the jobs that established machine shops don’t like to do. It’s crazy how most folks think that CNC work is as “all you do is push the green button.” I think that attitude is largely due to Internet forums, IG, YT and other outlets that have created “virtual” experts on everything. I enjoy your videos, thanks for keeping it real and for calibrating the folks that really need it.

@powellmachineinc3179

13 күн бұрын

Absolutely, we do jobshop work some, it's all I use to do for a while

I had my 5.3 bored and I’m no machinist , I left that up to the facility, I’m a technician not a machinist!!! I’d take your word for it rather than question you with your years of knowledge!!! I asked them to line bore and do what needs done to get it where it needed to be!!! I enjoy your videos keep up the good work!!!

@powellmachineinc3179

14 күн бұрын

💯

I’ve learned a lot watching your videos. Thank you

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Glad it helps

I always torque plate my lawn mower and weed eater...heck, i even torque plated my can opener and dishwasher:)

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely

Lmao “there’s a special bus you should be riding.” I love it soo true!

Hi. I totally agree with you. I'm a machinist myself. I have always said much the same, the one thing I do is measure the pistons at 90 degrees Celsius to check there growth rate if I know that the engine is working hard. I check the block as it come out the hot tank then calculate the finished bore size from there. I have seen many a machine shop that just follow manufacturer recommendations and don't give enough clearance piston to bore and then the poor customer can't work out why the engine overheat's. I'm in Perth western australia and see these problems regularly when people are sent to me cause no one else can work it out.. Your one of the first I have come across that uses knowledge to think outside the box. Cheers and all the best to you from Perth western Australia.

Preach it brother! Ask the customer what they want done, give them a fair estimate...and it's yes or no. There's never any regret when you pay for quality.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

💯

Intil I watched this video, I figured all blocks would be torque plated, from an engineering standpoint it just seemed like due diligence. I had never considered the economics in regards to your business or that in the overall scheme of things some builds just don't benefit from being honed with a torque plate. I think that this video was very instructive and educated many of us. Thanks again.

@ChristmasCrustacean1

15 күн бұрын

back in the day when it was all done by machinists in the manufacturers factory it was never a thing and modern engines are CNC machined without a torque plate. its just extra when chasing perfection in high horsepower and racing builds.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

You are very welcome

@stevebates5973

14 күн бұрын

Just think about this, time costs money, so spending more time on a block that doesn't need the work, costs money... And $200 is a lot of money for someone who doesn't make a lot...

Great video! I got here because I saw MotoIQ talking about how some shops didn't build subaru turbo engines correctly because they didn't use torque plates - but this was also because those had rings much higher up the piston that was a limiting issue , so that top part of the piston matter more when pusing higher than 100+ horsepower. But what do I know. It seems like they make sense on a use-by-use basis and isn't universal that torque plates are ALWAYS needed on every car. GREAT video sir!

I agree on the torque plate , but I'm disappointed you don't put your camshafts through the flux capacitor after grinding it :)

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Top secret suff there

I had a machine shop for almost 30 years, i was ASE certified master engine machinists and bored hundreds of blocks without torque plates and had zero issues, i was building bad ass engines before torque plates were invented !

The problem is you are trying to help people that think they know what they are talking about when they dont. They have no real world experience. They usually are just spewing things they have heard other people say. I am an Aircraft Mechanic and I'm sure you know we get the same crap. I enjoy your videos and I hope you keep doing them and don't get fed up with these idiots and get discouraged from doing them.

@powellmachineinc3179

14 күн бұрын

Dunning Kruger

@owensbama1923

14 күн бұрын

@powellmachineinc3179 no doubt about that. Lol they get on my nerves too.

99% of the folks that know anything about tolerances cannot even possibly fathom maintaining .0004 or even calibrate the tools properly to even measure it reliably or consistently. ive never had an engine honed with a Tq plate. lol. excellent vid and info!!!!

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely

@MrAnviljenkins

14 күн бұрын

I have HELD those tolerances on parts, but in the bargain we did not have any way to measure hows round a bore was other than a 2 point bore gauge, if the bore had a 3, 5, or 7 lobe out of round condition we could never have measured it with the tools we used to machine the parts. We very commonly had fairly small holes which had total .0005" tolerance, say .2495" to .2500" tolerance, we used gage pins to check that, inspection used gage pins to check it as well. if the holes were .0005" out of round gage pins don't show you that at all.

@geniferteal4178

14 күн бұрын

Time to start recording room temperature and worrying about the accuracy of your thermometer.

@MrChevelle83

14 күн бұрын

@@geniferteal4178 yea, good idea!

@geniferteal4178

14 күн бұрын

@@MrChevelle83 Not sure if you're joking or not and I, i'm joking a little too. But seriously, My brother and I quickly realized doing our own work in the garage. Practice getting consistent measurements. It's easy when you have experience, but if you're doing your own stuff, just getting consistent readings is something to practice. Most people have no idea if they've never done it. Temperature becomes an issue, especially if the garage gets cold overnight. We knew our abilities and limitations. Torque plates were not on the radar yet back then. 😊

8 months ago I began researching the extensive use of the briggs and stratton 23 hp vanguard series engines being used for over a decade to fly ultralight planes in Europe, i am in Virginia. I am determined to make something lol using that platform, to that end, I contacted Powell regarding crankshaft balancing as I am replacing the internals and no one ever re-balances these from what I can see. He said he could help me :) Guess what, after 8 months, I am waiting on UPS today to deliver my BS Vanguard and start my build :) At some point I am sending detailed info to Powell and arranging an appointment to send it to him :)

@powellmachineinc3179

10 күн бұрын

💯 we will take care of you

Great response. I wouldn't even bother responding to these type of comments, unless they're respectful and seem to be genuinely trying to learn. You can usually tell by their toxic tone that they aren't gonna listen to logic anyway. This toxicity is all across social media, so never take it to heart and remember it's the minority of us here. I come here to learn about engines and machining from a pro, not to tell you how to do your job. Having said all that, we've ended up with a super informative video on torque plates from it all 😄

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Yep I shouldn't

Bigginers dont know the rules, so they mess up, intermediate skill level, get really zealous about following all the rules, cause they know they are there for a reason, and they dont want to make an expensive mistakes. The master knows where they can cut corners, not to rip the customer off, but so they can spend that saved time on some other part of the job that will help the customer out more.

@powellmachineinc3179

14 күн бұрын

Absolutely spot on...., love it

i once asked about the torque plate. it was in the video that you did a puerto rico or mexican honda. the only reason i asked was because in a previous video you used a torque plate for a dirt track motor. i've sent several trucks motors out for rebuild and had never really heard of it, but it made sense in my head. you responded to my comment (thank you) and you said that it wasn't required for that engine. that made sense to me and i left it that. thank you for sharing your knowledge to a guy like me that tinkers in their garage. i enjoy and learned a lot from your YT channel

@powellmachineinc3179

11 күн бұрын

Ty, glad you like the content

Thank you for sharing your years of experience with us!! You’re an amazing person.

Thank you for clarifying that on LS motors. It seems all the LS fanboi's are the absolute worse about criticizing and correcting people online.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Definitely

Some people are just not worth having a lenghty conversation with! Especially a qualified one! As Powell said, it's just not worth the time of explaining it to some people!

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Definitely

Can you do a video how you got into this business? Did you go to school to be a machinist, or on the job training? How long have you been in the business and stuff like that? I always find it interesting to hear the back story how skilled people learnt their trade and how they built a business around it

@powellmachineinc3179

2 күн бұрын

A origin story 8s in the works

Perfect explanation. There is a big difference between information and knowledge. The poster showed up with information and 🐄 💩. Keep up the good work!

I’d rather spend the extra on getting the right hone with the deeper valleys and the correct surface finish for the ring package, crankcase pressure and oil control.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Definitely, but part is std here

You're wrong. That guy has watched at least 40 youtube videos and knows what he's talking about.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Lol

Thank you guys for this video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I Appreciate the fine tooth combing on all your work!

This is a man that knows his craft and can prove it !! I have a radiator shop in Arkansas and run into the same type of stuff all day long. Have comments like "my uncle who is a mechanic said it's not a head gasket if I can't see water on my dip stick"..... Lol good video and thanks for the education.....

@powellmachineinc3179

13 күн бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that

Torque Plate Police 🤣 These keyboard warriors watch some Steve Morris 4000HP 75K build and parrot nonsense on stock builds. OEM is probably off by way more.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

💯

This crap comes from the same kinda guys that watch Sloppy Mechanics and comment on that FB page . The same guys that assemble their motors in their kids sand box .

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Yup, facts

@apollorobb

13 күн бұрын

@@garlandjones7709 Who gives a shit about how long someone has been wrong about something lol

@apollorobb

13 күн бұрын

@@powellmachineinc3179 Seems that when the dude gets his ass handed to him he deletes his stupidity ...Sign of a Troll

Seriously...you are just a phenomenal man, 1000%. Honest and forgiving but yet firm in what you say or do. You tell it the way it is and I like that. for dealing with all these internet warriors. I just love those one liners melts. LoOl

@powellmachineinc3179

13 күн бұрын

Thank you, we try hard

If you ain't gettin' paid, it is just a hobby. And you actually have to collect the money to call it gettin' paid. Don't get bogged down with the trolls who obviously don't know, most likely don't have basic tools and have never even assembled a lawn mower engine much less a v8. A caliper is not a mic. And a mic that does 4 digits ain't easy to be accurate and repeatable with. Keep up the GREAT content!!!

This channel is fantastic. Thanks for the breakdowns and explanations. I work in medical and want to move over to automotive machining and im learning a great deal through these videos.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

I'm very glad you find them useful!!

You have addressed this now , best too only respond to credible critics or credible praise ……. It’s the inter webs :)

@powellmachineinc3179

14 күн бұрын

Yes

I appreciate your expertise. I can see that you know what you are talking about, because of many years of experience. Too bad their are folks that just think they know everything because so and so says so.... Keep up the good work! I watch because I want to learn something from every episode, and I haven't been disappointed yet... Thanks, Ron...

@powellmachineinc3179

14 күн бұрын

I appreciate you

Great description of the need for a torque plate when honing. Thank you.

Really enjoyed how you went down the torque plate rabbit hole, and with heat and cold cycles and the uneven thermal expansion of engine. Short bus too.....

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Lol

I've been building motors over 40 years and i will tell you these are facts !!! keep up the great videos don't stress the keyboard warriors !

@powellmachineinc3179

12 күн бұрын

Thank you!

"A special bus you should be ridin" you've made my day. A lot of your knowledge is above my pay grade but interests me. Stay cool big fella.

@powellmachineinc3179

10 күн бұрын

Ty!! We appreciate that!

Although annoyance from uneducated comments are irritating , everyone learns something when a video is produced like this with the explanation shown. Thanks.

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely

Thank you for the education. I always thought the torque plate was more critical. I hope they learned their lesson. Keep up your integrity. Now I know. Knowing is half the battle. Go Joe!!

@powellmachineinc3179

12 күн бұрын

We appreciate that

I didn’t know what a torque plate was, I watched the video, and now I do.

I always wonder when to use TORQUE PLATES Thank you for explaining this to me

@powellmachineinc3179

15 күн бұрын

Any time!

Very well said. I call these types KZread University Scholars... One or two videos gives them a masters degree in BS... When you go to a restaurant, ya don't tell the chef how to cook your meal... I've been a Mechanic for a long time, built a lot of engines, and when I take parts to my machinist, the only thing I tell them is "Do what you do" and of course "THANK YOU"!!!

@powellmachineinc3179

11 күн бұрын

I appreciate that!

I have been a Mechanic for 35+ years now. All I know is that every day is a school day! And trust your Machinist! Like you said, torque plates are great for race engines, but Grandma's car doesn't need it. I think there's only been 5-8 engines in my entire career that I have requested a torque plate use. Have a great day, Sir. o7

@powellmachineinc3179

13 күн бұрын

Thank you!!

I'm happy to see a hard working honest man real man say his piece in my line hvac we do a 1000 things bye the book cause we can't get away with out it but we do anther 1000 bye gut and experience. That guy should keep his mouth shut I feel he was jealous of you also tongue plates are in fashion now on you tube one guy post then you have 50 others make a vedio then they disappear!! Great vedios very interesting and enjoyable key word!!!

@powellmachineinc3179

8 күн бұрын

Tyvm!