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in the actual campaign, it was specified in grog's backstory that it suddenly struck him how small and defenseless wilhand seemed. regardless of everything he'd ever been taught, he had a need to protect this one. throughout the campaign, it is also shown that grog loves shorter races, gnomes especially. or, as he calls them, "the little folk"

@richardbrown3055

Жыл бұрын

In the original campaign it was even quicker, Grog and the Herd came across Wilhan with his vegetable cart and his Uncle told them to kill him, and Grog protested, because it was just one little old gnome who had so little. So instead of killing Wilhan, they beat nearly beat Grog to death, for showing weakness. Not sure why they changed it.

@seansilence2697

Жыл бұрын

Also Grog was younger in the campaign. He hadn't actually done a lot of killing

@zippomage

11 күн бұрын

@@seansilence2697 not true, he once told a story about wearing part of a person "like a hat"

The greatest character growth in Vox Machina history is Mosco's journey from "I hate Scanlan and constantly wish violent death upon him" to "okay, fine, his jokes are funny and he's kind of cute with Pike" 😊

Can't wait until it's revealed the female gnome is actually Scanlon from an alternate timeline. That really took me by surprise.

Canonically in the campaign, that flashback story was among the first raids that Grog had been on, and the first in which he encountered non-combatants. In the first sequence, Kevdak told him to go and take what he wanted; prior to that, he'd only been killing the people out fighting defensively against the herd. And these raids weren't even so common for the herd before Kevdak killed Grog's father to take charge and changed their ways.

My interpretation of why Grog turned for Pop-Pop is that in all of the flashbacks he only ever kills armed people. The rest of The Herd slaughters indiscriminately but he only kills those who fights back (it's not a fair fight by any stretch but still a fight). It also seems like Grog is a teenager and therefore probably pretty early in his raiding career so there is a chance that this was the first time he faced a begging victim alone. If he faced a surrendering person with other Herd members, they would've killed them before he had a chance to think about it.

@melissanotthewebsbusiness7272

Жыл бұрын

Grog loves to fight, but often has to be reined in: I love how in Season 1, when he was fighting the undead in the De Rolo crypt, he got to experience the unfettered glee of wholesale destruction of already-dead creatures who he didn't have to worry about leaving grieving family with.

Given how much Mosco loves Pike’s voice, I wonder how she’d feel about the same voice coming from an Amazonian-built barbarian angel with a giant sword?

@WeeLassReacts

Жыл бұрын

Oh thats easy, I'd die? RIP Mosco!

We never do see Grog kill anyone unarmed. Also, and they didn't explain this in the show, but the Everlight is the goddess of redemption, and great-grat grandpa Wilhand had been chosen by her to leave a shady past. I think that flash of light from the locket was a little divine intervention that started Grog on his own path to redemption.

@theprideling

Жыл бұрын

Hey I hadn’t thought about jt from that angle before! That would be really cool, some divine inspiration…

I love the character development they've given Grog. We see the empathy he had to spare and save Wilhand, the courage he had to stand up to Kevdak and Zanroar, and how he and Pike formed their bond. And now…when he has virtually no physical strength, we finally see where Grog’s true strength comes from. "Standing up for the little folk." Along with the friendships he has made, his loyalty to those friends, and the fact that he is willing to die in order to protect them.

@watershipup7101

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty great seeing my boy getting fleshed out.

The thing with Grog is in the flashbacks he's basically a teenager, so his life before was that of a child soldier who hadn't known anything else, and he's not very bright, so it kind of was the first time he'd considered that the people he kills have families.

@blaze4111

Жыл бұрын

yeah, it's implied that's the first raid he participated in. moreover, grog is not the heavy thinking type, so he never considered people have families until he saw it first hand.

I love the actual character arc you're going through with how much you care about scanlan

@devildham

Жыл бұрын

Especially when her personality is so much like Kayliee's🤣. They even have similar hair. It's hilarious

@WeeLassReacts

Жыл бұрын

I dont like him... *sweats* you cant PROVE ANYTHING *runs*

@Nitro89

Жыл бұрын

​@@WeeLassReacts oh Lass you are gonna have a freaking conniption when a secret about kayliee is made known to scanlan

Mosco's character development toward Scanlan is really tons of fun ^^

@WeeLassReacts

Жыл бұрын

HUSHHHH

From what I understand, that was his first time in an actual raid, and it was his first time meeting a 'little folk'. The fact that he is so small might be why Grog was so much less willing to kill him.

In the next episode, Grog realizes that his strength comes from his beard. He’ll defeat Kevdak with the greataxe that he summons from his beard, and forever be known as Grog, Lord of The Unshorn

The writers certainly deserve some credit for handling Scanlan's characterization throughout the series. His obnoxiousness is a feature, not a bug, and the moments when we see the most depth and honesty from him are when the rest of the party aren't around, so it makes so much sense later on how much it completely blindsides the party when he confesses his love for Percy. And you're not wrong about the quality. I loved the first season, but this one is a clear step up in just about every aspect, from animation quality to the ability to spread the character development around.

A couple thoughts on the why of Grog. The speech Kevdak delivers in the opener heavily implies that this is very early in Grog's raiding career. It's conceivable that he's never been directly confronted with this situation before. Another little detail is that, up to this point in the animation, everyone Grog has killed has been holding a weapon. Plus, throw in the return of the golden halo imagery surrounding the tiny portrait of Pike and you get hints of divine influence. The Everlight is the goddess of compassion and redemption after all. It's a lot of little things, so it does feel jarring. A little more time would have been nice.

I love your love for highland cows so much. Growing up with a veterinarian I just adore cows and highlands are something special. We love and appreciate unironic adoration for Cows. Fun fact, no series spoilers, there is an adventure where Scanlan once turned all of them into cows so they could be in disguise. It's why there's banners that have little cows on them in their keep that you can spot if you're sharp-eyed.

@katienichole6905

Жыл бұрын

For the sake of Engagement™ I'll add other thoughts to this comment It makes me laugh how you do NOT like Scanlan but you and he have something in common: #1 Pike Simp

@Stefan-xt5sk

Жыл бұрын

@@katienichole6905 How could anyone NOT be a Pike simp? xD She's powerful and a badass, but also so kind and pure, you can't help but want to protect her from the world (including Scanlan).

I think that seeing Willhands picture of Pike made every time someone had said "I've got a family" real to him.

Grog's change of heart might seem a bit sudden, but his backstory is mostly unchanged. This was the first time Grog had been expected to kill someone who refused to defend themselves or fight back in any way. His age is somewhat ambiguous, but Grog was unquestionably quite young when this happened (probably a teenager). The fact that it was a relatively new experience for Grog also meant that he hadn't done enough killing to become desensitized.

Not sure why you'd assume Grog has like singlehandedly murdered nations prior to the flashback when Kevdak is very much talking to him like a newbie, encouraging him to go at it and earn his place in the Herd.

honestly I cant wait till the finale, the moment when Grog gets his muscles back but they all go to only one arm is like peak animation for me. he looks so freaky and badass

@alexkoder1982

Жыл бұрын

But why did it have to be his dominant arm?

@nuru666

Жыл бұрын

The Gorilla walk scene is especially hilarious

Wee Lass coming around to Scanlan x Pike is wonderful. I was hoping she would, as reactions to people seeing him sacrifice his life to save her from those falling rocks later on are always better when the viewers are attached.

@brinnshea

Жыл бұрын

I still can't believe Matt really did that in the campaign. I know he had problems with Ashley, but no one actually does the "rocks fall, you die" thing except as a joke

@sandpiperr

Жыл бұрын

@@brinnshea Yeah but the really shocking part is when Vax becomes a bard as a tribute to his memory. I definitely did not see that coming!

Hi Hamish! I can't wait for your reaction when they disguise themselves as your cousins to ambush the dragon.😊

@theanyktos

Жыл бұрын

Ooohhh yeah, that moment was great! The squadron of flying cows vs. the big bad dragon. An iconic moment indeed.

18:42 love the parallel to s1 e3 when pike left and grog said this line

@cryofpaine

Жыл бұрын

They do that a few times this season. It's so good!

Others have already said it but Grog and Pike is only around 14 or 15 in that flashback so he had just started raiding and had never come across something that hadnt fought back before and got really confused and soft for the tiny gnome

5:02... our wee lass nonsarcastically wishes Scanlan good luck. It's over. She has fallen to the charms of our Scanman lol

A few people have given their takes on Grog's turnaround, and there are a lot of different factors to it, here's a summary of some plus my own thoughts: - Grog is *young* in the backstory, and Kevdak's line in it implies this was sort of a first run for him raiding with the Herd - Grog was mostly fighting armed defenders - Grog was raised to this, and isn't too bright, so probably hadn't had many reason before to question whether what he was doing was right - Wilhand was actively *begging* Grog for his life, which may have been a first on its own - Grog is a lot of things. He's violent and he enjoys violence. But at his heart, Grog is also *kind*, despite not growing up in an environment where that would thrive. It's clear from Kevdak's words, and even Zanror's words of concern that he was going "soft" that it's viewed as a weakness in the Herd. Kevdak is probably right when he says Grog was never going to work out in the Herd in the long run. That his turn happened here and not farther down the line probably saved his own life as much as it saved Wilhand's. - In context of the previous point, the interpretation that the little glint calling Grog's attention to the portrait might have been the intervention of the Everlight is a pretty compelling one. They may go into more detail later, but it was was alluded to in Scanlan's song about Pike in season one, so I don't consider it much of a spoiler: Pike and Wilhand themselves come from a family of poor reputation (they didn't get the name "Trickfoot" from dancing). Wilhand became a follower of the Everlight later in his life, and he was the one who raised Pike in her graces. Giving a little nudge to someone who was clearly just waiting for an excuse to change for the better seems to be firmly in the goddess's wheelhouse.

Pike's hair used to be black (with a purple streak), until she was bisected by a glabrezu (look it up if you dare). It turned white when she was resurrected in the Everlight's temple. Scanlan was originally a part of Dranzel's troupe before he joined VM, but it's nice to see them here. But the next episode is the shining gem of the season...

RIP Lance Reddick, Thordak's VA 😔

About that fellow gnome bard....she's actually a MtF trans clone of scanlan. It's a long story that involves a an orc wizard that keeps asking for blood and spit samples.

5:16 Iconic. And I absolutely agree: We don't deserve Pike OR Ashley Johnson!

6:27 He probably didn't have to deal with non-combatants before. Grog loves violence, but he likes a fair fight, a challenge, and he's not cruel. Hurting people who have no way of defending themselves doesn't sit well with him. And lets face it, Grog's not the brightest bulb in the box, so that probably was the first time he had really thought about what he was doing.

if you notice, Grog only killed/fought against those who were armed and fighting back.. and his uncle says he has a soft spot for the little people (think gnomes and halflings) probably because they pose no threat or challenge to him, in his mind... so he is consistent...he says it himself.. he let the little folk die, he didn't kill them himself... had his cousin not been there, he would probably just have backed out and gone on fighting other "enemies"... his cousin forced his hand to take sides, so to speak.

I love Grog's scream at the end. Buckle up, next episode is gonna rock!

My favorite part is when the brown dragon Shiteregal joins the conclave and high fives all the other dragons before Pike beats him in a rap battle for the fate of the realm.

It's weird but Grog forgot to mention the traditional half-giant square-dance-off you do before a duel for dominance.

Mosco remember, the animation is like a summarized version of the backgrounds and the main campaign. Grog had doubs about how the herd was acting and never felt good for being watch with fear, Pike's Hop Pop was the one who beg Grog for his life and he realized how bad he looks. Also there is something about his father that i'm not going to spoil for you.

From what I understand, Pike got cut IN HALF, and came back to life. That is when her hair turned white.

20:15 It helped they separated the characters which give them all a bit more breathing room. When they were all at the same place there were no room for any of them to be more than the must basic versions of themselves.

I can’t wait til she finds out Kaylie is actually WILHELM’s daughter, not Scanlan’s, making her technically Pike’s great aunt. Gnome’s very slow aging makes the timeline a bit confusing lol

Pike is truly an ambassador of the light, bringing out the best in those around her. She not only heals Grog's physical wounds, but ministers to his heart by encouraging him to talk things out! If she can bring out the best in Grog, she can in Scanlan, too.

Here's the thing about gnomes: they live a *looong* time. Scanlan is nearly a thousand years old, and has been banging his way across Exandria for that entire time. For context, Ghengis Khan died less than 800 years ago, at about age 60--and he has over 16 million descendants alive today. That golden thread of fate in the show's opening is actually just everyone's blood relation to Scanlan.

Yay episode 9 reaction! Also I just love how much you love Pike, she's amazing and deserves all the love

At least one time when Travis wasn't able to make it to a gaming session, the others all liked imitating his voice, particularly "I would like to rage"

Watching you getting dragged kicking and screaming into liking Scanlan and Pikelan has been an absolute joy XD Obligatory fake spoiler: I love Kaylee's introduction here. It's a good setup for when she takes Scanlan's place on Vox Machina after his tragic demsie

@theanyktos

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's so cool how they can do that in the adaptation. Foreshadow things like that. In the campaign she obviously only joined them _after_ his death.

Best episode coming up! Get a neck pillow for all the head-thrashing music!

Back to campaign 1: There was a member of the herd named Shale that mentions that Grog was the runt of the litter. He was the smallest among the goliath children and was never picked to play goat ball. I imagine this put quite a chip on his shoulder, making his become obsessed with being stronger and stronger, being accepted among the herd and join in on the raids. I suspect this contributes to his fondness for the smaller races, such as gnomes and halflings. Pike and Scanlan are his favorite party members and Kima is his favorite outside the party. He especially admires Pike and Kima for being a “monstah” and “badass” respectively, despite the smaller stature in his eyes.

4:48 This groan is the sound of struggling to stay planted on a chair with _ZERO_ traction.

I heard a rumor that the Everlight could punch a dragon in the face, that the Everlight is absolutely jacked

R.I.P. Lance Reddick (1962 - 2023), the voice actor of Thordak the Red Dragon

Grog doesn't really enjoy killing so much as he enjoys fighting. Subtle distinction.

You might want to move Hamish to a closer box in those shelves for the rest of the season. 🤐

"go and make them fear the name Grog Strongjaw" because he hadn't been raiding yet.

now I've finally caught up i can finally contribute to this community: can't wait for your reaction to the episode where rocks fall and everyone dies

Hello from Philadelphia USA! The YT algorithm had this video pop up in my feed and tho I usually don't go in for reaction vids or other youtube formulaic "vid structure fads" (for lack of a better term). I'm an older (early 50's) mostly homebound (as I'm disabled) huge Critical Role fan (and an O.G. nerd) for almost the entire run of their actual play show (starting from about mid campaign one) and after this vid did it's short autoplay preview.. I decided to give the whole vid a chance, as I'm also a huge fan of the animated series of course and I am so happy that I did as your energy, humor, and personality are quite wonderfully infectious in all the best ways.. I'm even currently binging all your Vox Machina reaction vids as I write this, lol, and enjoying them very much as your vids feel like watching someone discover the same joy I had when falling in love with Crit Role myself as the animated series is so well done and is a great (tho condensed) adaptation of the actual play show... So, I'm subscribed tho I'll probably just watch the VM vids but eventually check out the other fandoms you explore as well. I just wanted to say Hi and I may post on here from time to time.. love to show you non-spoiler clips and side by side comparisons of the anime and live show (of parts that you've already published) and wonderful bits that didn't make it into the show.. the live show is quite an investment (tho I think worth it) at 115 episodes at 3.5-5 hours a pop for C1 alone but there are amazing improv bits as well as the actors infectious and playful friendship to boot.. I'm a writer, (if you couldn't tell by this novella post), so will also try to contribute to the fake spoilers and head cannon that you encourage as well, heh. Can't wait for season 3 (and beyond hopefully) and also the newly announced spin off series featuring the Mighty Nein, their characters and story from Campaign 2. loving your Vids, keep 'em coming! who'd a thunk I'd go for a "react to" vid series, lol, but they've so far been a nice little parasocial positivity boost in my day and feels like rewatching one of my favorite shows with a fun and funny friend seeing them for the first time.. something important as all I have is downtime due to my disability (I basically live a life of retirement but am not a total hermit, heh, just have a ton of free time that I try to fill) and don't get to be actually social all that often with my real life friends due to them having real lives and jobs and all that. it's no substitute for the real thing but it does actually help.. probably one of the reasons I enjoy CR so much, heh, as their tight and very genuine friendship pulls you in and you end up feeling included in it (tho you really aren't, of course. you may know THEM from watching their interactions for hundreds of hours but THEY do not know YOU, heh. it's an important distinction for obvious reasons. it's a passive, not truly interactive experience.).. go figure, a positive use of the internet.. ha! Cheers and Hello! 🥳

@WeeLassReacts

Жыл бұрын

I saw this comment pop up on my phone at the gym but wanted to wait until I was home to properly reply!!! First off, thank you so much for giving my video the chance!! I'm glad you found my content! Every reaction channel is slightly different, but I am a firm beliver in this type of reaction content, where we do more than simply watch it! I'm so happy you enjoyed the content and I really do hope you stick around! I'll be covering Vox S3 when it comes out and of course, any other campaigns that get animated from this crew too! Thanks for taking the time to check the content out and leave me such a beautiful comment!! I wish you all the best!

@Sgtspork

Жыл бұрын

@@WeeLassReacts Thanks for the awesome reply! I didn't wanna come off as really "against" reaction vids or anything as I'm not.. it's just I don't usually go in for the format and it's more about the presentation and matching overall personality sensibilities with the presenter really for me.. (and I'm sure most others too as enjoyability, like in any media, is wholly subjective to the viewers tastes, like how I answer the question to what kind of music that I listen to and my reply is always.. well, I only listen to ONE genre of music.. it's called "Good" and I only know it when I hear it. 😁). I was pretty much charmed off the bat, which doesn't happen all that often.. usually, it can take a bit of repeated exposure but not in this case.. finding your vids on LOVM was one of Bob Ross's "happy little accidents", heh. (I can be a bit picky, as youtube is my only "TV" style content aside from streaming as I scan it daily to add to my "watch later" list and just run it in the background as I do other daily tasks, I even pay for it to cut the ads.. tho I don't mind the odd in vid sponsored spots as a necessary evil, as long as it's not overly gratuitous and intrusive). it's nice to find a new channel that just fits in with my overall entertainment wants.. I liken it to finding an interesting and fun conversation and people at a party and prefer when they are just being mostly genuinely themselves, even tho I am aware that it's a bit of a heightened version of genuine due to being "on and present" for the camera.. but that still fits with the party conversation allegory, as we tend to be heightened, slightly performative (not the best term for it due to possible negative connotations) versions of ourselves speaking in a crowd.. but it's still an honest version, IMO.. well, I'm starting to write a book again, lol, as my ADHD on the spectrum brain is jumping from conversation ideas and analysis.. ha! so I will keep this a bit shorter rather than going off on tangents (I type almost as fast as I think and without too much filter).. so I'll just restate how wonderful it is to find your content and that it might be a good way to help me checkout other fandoms that I've been meaning to check out (eyeing the Gravity Falls vids as I've heard good things from a few friends and your vids might be a good way to be introduced to that world..) and also totally agree that Pike RULES! she's totally the heart and spirit of Vox Machina.. Ashley Johnson, her creator and voice actor, was often absent from the live streams for extended periods of time as she was a major supporting character on the show "Blindspot" and would take up residence in NYC during when it was shooting it's seasons (Crit Role is LA based).. but would often skype in on a monitor for sessions in C1 and C2 when her schedule allowed and that's where the "astral form" from season one of LOVM came about.. but she had so many classic Role Play moments that I so hope make it into the animated series.. absolute classic moments with Grog (one in particular where Pike becomes a tutor to him), Scanlan, and another character that hasn't shown up in the series yet, all that I absolutely hope make the show.. Grog and Vax also have some amazing moments that they haven't really delved into yet as well.. and yes, Scanlan is a walking HR sex offender nightmare, lol, but the man behind him, Sam Riegel, is actually a secret genius and despite the deceptive sleezy and low brow humor on the surface, He gives his flawed characters hidden deep depth and ever surprising and evolving character arcs to an astounding degree.. I so hope this comes across more in the series and I think we are just starting to see it finally with the current last few episodes you've done reactions too.. the Pike of the actual play show is even more so, even tho the series does a pretty great job of portraying her properly, just a bit abridged.. I totally get the gay panic reaction you have with her, hehe. (did I use that term properly? I'm part of the queer family but it meant something different (and far darker and negative) in my youth than as a term for a bit of a same sex crushing "Squee!" as I see it used among the younger queer generations these days, perhaps as a reclamation or even general ignorance of the original usage which was admittedly only for a fairly short period.. I absolutely prefer this current usage in any case.) (fun fact: Ashely's also the voice of "Ellie" in the Last of Us video game, along with Laura Bailey (Vex) who portrayed "Abbey" in the sequel game and both had cameos in the season one finale of the tv series based on the game's story on HBO).. well, I guess I failed on making this post shorter.. sigh. 😷 I blame all the coffee I drank while writing, heh. Regardless, can't wait for new episodes of your reactions to LOVM now that I'm all caught up! Cheers to you and thanks for making such wonderful and enjoyable stuff! ❣

@Sgtspork

Жыл бұрын

tho I can't wait to see your reaction to when Pike does a total heel turn and betrays Vox Machina, having been in league with both the Chroma Conclave AND The Whispered One (from season one) all along.. there will totally be keyboard and other smashing but it's just such an iconic and brilliant moment when she drops her "cutesy" mask.. 😁

Yeah the episode doesn’t do a great job explaining it but they do give us some hints about Grog’s sudden change(that are admittedly way easier to pick up on if you already know the story): “I should have known you weren’t strong enough to raid with us” he’s young and he hasn’t been raiding for long. “Weak, just like your father” his dad might have had a compassionate side that Grog got to see when he was little. And he’s no longer around. Killed? Banished? “He’s not a fighter, just and old fellow” In his short time raiding, he maybe only came into contact with people who fought back or *could* fight back, this is his first time seeing someone truly defenseless. It’s pretty obtuse but it all paints a picture of a soft-hearted kid who just needed a chance to question his uncle’s teachings and do the right thing.

Grog gets a choker of glowing spiky blonde hair next episode to symbolize his character growth

In the actual campaign, Grog's belt is actually a Belt of Dwarvenkind, which gives him several useful benefits, but Travis obsessed over the beard side-effect (which was far from instant like in this series).

@AnxietyRat

5 ай бұрын

Yeah the beard side effect was actually technically a homebrew that Matt did because you technically can only grow a beard if your race is capable of growing facial hair. Goliaths are not. So technically rules as written the belt would not work for Grog but not just made it work for him, and made it VERY difficult, because Travis was SO excited about the beard being a thing the belt could do!

Happy to subscribe and like to help you and Hamish. Cheers!

Grog mostly fights for the challenge. It builds a sense of fairness, trying to fight dangerous opponents. But a little old gnome is not a challenge. It's cruelty for the sake of cruelty. And he found that he can't stomach doing that.

Now that I think about it, you're basically Hamish's Grog with how tiny he is. :P

I love your reactions Mosco! From your goofy, silly faces to even your cute smile. :)

Fun Fact: Kailie's name is based on Laura BAILEY, the voice actress for Vex. The romantic tension between her and Scanlan is a reference to ads in the campaign written by Sam Riegel(Scanlan's Voice Actor), where Sam was "The only man Laura ever loved" Also, be ready to use your plushie for the next ep, it's a rough one

Grog’s arc is probably my favorite in the whole series

Mosco going full Yami over Pike x Scanlan: "NO! It should've been me! Not him! It's not fair!" 😂😂

also.. Kevdak is going to go "no/... who are you? I don't know any bearded goliaths"

Strap in for episode 10!!! Best of the entire series in my opinion!

Oooh, next episode's gonna be a doozy. One of my favourites this season (and that's saying sth bc they're all fing amazing). My favourite part is the one where Zanror (Grog's cousin) fights off his own pregnant wife to allow Grog a chance at killing his father. Pretty intense.

@AnxietyRat

5 ай бұрын

I'm genuinely SO sad that they had to cut Zanrors pregnant wife...she was such a fucking badass!!

Ashley Johnson (the voice of Pike) also does the voice of Terra from Teen Titans, as well as the voice of Ellie from The Last of Us games (among a bunch of other things), if you wanted to check out more of her work.

@MechadonPrime

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget Infinity Train

@mutantdrumsticks

Жыл бұрын

@@MechadonPrime She was great in Infinity Train

Last I heard there were to be five seasons of the first campaign, and then the entirety of the second campaign. We're in for a good time!

@theanyktos

Жыл бұрын

Well, that's what they're aiming for at the very least. Actually confirmed are only 3 seasons of LoVM and one season of an as of yet unnamed Mighty Nein show. Though my vote would be for 'The Legend of The Mighty Nein' if only for consistency's sake.

it's kind of implied, that this is one of the first raid, Grog has participated and he has previously killed armed people before.

Grog was quite young when he raided the village with Pike's Granddad. I don't think he'd been on many raids.

Grog helped pikes great grandparent because he saw His family in the locket

I’ve never heard of this series but it looks pretty darn good”

@theanyktos

Жыл бұрын

It is. Can only recommend.

I think it's insinuated that Grog's dad isn't in the herd because he was soft on people and Grog himself has had instances before of not wanting to hurt small people specifically. I.e. Gnomes

Yes, I can explain it better in the comments. You made up the "Grog killed hundreds, maybe thousands of people" part, and then got confused by an information you made up. Good job! 😂👍 As for the number of people Grog killed who were begging for their lives and mentioning their families instead of actively trying to stab him in the face... it might have been zero. PS: also, in the campaign, Grog and his cousin were much younger.

The official Vox Machina backstories are in a video titled 'Critical Role C1E14 Character Bios'. Grog's is the first one. His is a bit vague, but it does specify that his Herd just happened upon Wildhand in the woods. It wasn't a raid, they were just gonna kill him because they could. Grog is a very impulsive guy and suddenly he hated the idea of killing an innocent and terrified little gnome. Grog also was a teenager at that time and we don't know how much fighting he'd done other than 'enjoying proving his might' among the Herd, which could just mean fighting each other for sport. In the game version, Grog does absolutely love little folk. He's very fond of Lady Kima.

To save the town and his friends, Grog agrees to rejoin the herd. The herd moves on and it's the last we see of Grog.

Between her look, accent, and how angry at Scanlan she seems to be, I'm half convinced that they based Kayleigh off of you.

@sandpiperr

Жыл бұрын

Except Kaylie is Irish and Mosco is Scottish.

@devildham

Жыл бұрын

I've been saying that all season. The only difference is the accent 🤣🤣🤣.

It’s crazy how Umbrasyl was good all along, and helps Grog with the peaceful transfer of power from his uncle Kevdak

It's easy to fight someone who's fighting back or running. If they fight back and you kill them, you "won the fight". If they run and you kill them, you "hunted them down". But if they simply stand and beg for mercy, there's no other word for it but murder

We saw it in the intro, Grog had no problem killing people that fought back. In my mind that is the big thing. Wilhand didn't even tried to fight. Not a fighter, not a danger... just an old dude whos death would haven done nothing for them.

Looking forward to the Mighty Nein reactions whenever that show happens. No reason in particular 😏

When you're a killer, every now and then, you feel a little bad for one potential victim and let them get away.

@theanyktos

11 ай бұрын

You say that with an alarming amount iof confidence😅😂😂

I CAN'T WAIT for your reaction to episode 10😁😁😁🎉(i cried🤫)

okay, so next episode gonna be insane, but good news, mosco, episode 11 actually gonna be a bit more chill. our heroes going for a well-deserved spa day! vax will find jesus while taking a bath and even umbrasyl will put aside the animosity and join them. he will get rid if the toxins in his body with an enema!

@theanyktos

Жыл бұрын

But the spa day doesn't go completely smoothly. There's a cannonball contest (the water kind, not the artillery kind) that ends with shrapnel in Grog's chest. But you know, he's a big strong barbarian, he can take it. Oh wait...

In the campaign Grog's father was the original leader of the Herd of Storms, he was killed by Kevdak who took his place. Grog was still allowed to stay in for a while till eventually he was kicked out/nearly killed for not attacking Wilhelm. As far as spoilers, Scanlan flirts with his mother, Vax and Vex switch names for an episode, Grog learns to fly, and Percy blows up from all the gunpowder on him.

@DaDunge

Жыл бұрын

Was he killed I was under the impression they ran into Stonejaw strongjaw at some point.

@austinjeral1201

Жыл бұрын

I thought he was. I could be wrong been a while since I've seen campaign 1.

Ohhh I can't wait until you find out who the gloves are really for

Occupado American-Spanish for occupied, commonly what’s said over there if you are in a toilet cubicle and someone knocks on the door.

Well, for one, Grog is very young in these flashbacks. It's implied that this is the first time he's been taken along on a raid, so he probably hasn't killed hundereds of people before. Some, definitely, but probably not ones that were completely defenseless. And secondly, Wilhand worships the Everlight, like Pike. She's a godess of redemption. It's never really confirmed, but it's a popular headcanon that she maybe had a hand in this situation. Led someone bad, but redeemable to one of her followers who could help him on the path to redemption. And perhaps nudged Grog out of his rage in that moment so he had a chance to actually think about the situation and his choice.

I might be wrong, but I got the impression that Grog only killed people that attacked him or at least could fight back.

I LOVED Henry Winkler in this!

Why Grog chose to spared Wilhand is because Grog has been fighting and killing those who fought back. Wilhand didn't and it as it dawned in his mind that he is truly innocent and undeserving of death.

Easter egg: the symbol on the tower (the triangle with circles at the corners) is the symbol of an organization known as the Cobalt Soul, which ties into the next campaign. I can't wait for you to meet the Mighty Nein. And Bells Hells.

@sandpiperr

Жыл бұрын

I don't think she'll be Mosco's favorite because of reasons that we all know, but it will be interesting to see how Mosco reacts to Nott and contrast that with how she felt about Scanlan. I hope the Bells Hells get animated. I'll be pissed if the Mighty Nein do but they don't, because the MN were my least favorite group. Although, REAL SPOILERS for Vox Machina and C3 of Critical Role...... considering how many ties there have ended up being to VM, maybe they'll just show up in season 6 of TLOVM if it gets that many? They have 3 seasons for sure so far, and the creators have said they expect to need 5 seasons get through all of C1. At this point, C3 is becoming almost an extension of C1, so maybe?

I think with the wilhand thing it might have to do with sarien ray and how much light instead of darkness the family had and how he could change with them like the trick foots did

Oh please, we know that’s actually his sister he never knew he had

Now see...I immediately thought Scanlan and Kaylie looked alike too, but you are one of only like 3 reactors I've seen who have said that.

in a simple Way, Grog love to fight and he has no problem taking thing from people using force, but he was never cruel, or sadistic, in this case he see no poin, th eold man is defenseless is not even traying to fight back, the old man is not resisting Grog is free to take anything, and the old man is not even a warrior, killing him is 100% pointless, so Grog feel "strange" about doing that

Kill Box my beloved

Grog is, as Scanlan once put it, really dumb. One time, they polymorphed him into an eagle and he actually got smarter (eagles are smarter than Grog). So, he is like really stupid; trouble-with-doorknobs stupid, point-away-from-face stupid, do-not-microwave-toothpaste-prior-to-use stupid. It's not a great leap to assume that he just got it that killing people might possibly be wrong when he met Pop Pop.