The whole Scanlan/Kaylie reveal was quite the "Ohhh noooo..." moment in the tabletop campaign as well. It was possibly the most flustered we've ever seen Sam Riegel (Scanlan's player/VA) at the table.

@georgerobins4110

7 ай бұрын

I thought she was gonna try to kill him so when the reveal dropped I was like: OH MY FUCKING GOD-

@troikas3353

7 ай бұрын

@@georgerobins4110 Sadly Scalan's absurdly high Charisma pretty much took any potential bite or consequence out of the reveal since he was deeply unlikely to fail that persuasion check to make her stop. It was a great twist by Matt and a great moment, but yeah the game mechanics kinda undermined it a bit.

@MicahWo

7 ай бұрын

​@@troikas3353​ Sam improvised a very heartfelt speech that led to, in my opinion, a much more poignant moment than if she had simply tried to kill him.

@KevinVideo

7 ай бұрын

What I really enjoyed about the after party interview was Sam saying that if he knew about Kaylie beforehand, he wouldn't have tried to "get with her", which had the cast roaring with laughter.

Itll probably be said a few times. But Grog killing Kevdak was perfect. Grog had 1 hp left and rolled a natural 20 to kill Kevdak. It was an epic end to an epic fight

@DamageSix

7 ай бұрын

And if Kevdak was killed in any other way than Grog landing the finishing blow, the rest of the herd would have kept fighting until a Total Party Kill- "Chopping until there's no bodies left to revive."

@Zolar92

7 ай бұрын

@@DamageSix oh yeah. It would have been the end of Vox Machina if Grog didn't kill him

@2o7o7dragon

7 ай бұрын

... and the fall also killed grog. But that's kind of a bummer so they took that out for the series.

@Zolar92

7 ай бұрын

@@2o7o7dragon it only knocked him unconscious. Didn't fully kill him

@georgerobins4110

7 ай бұрын

My favourite part was that they brought in Wil Wheaten to curse Matt’s dice before the session 😂

Grog's "WHAT STRENGTH?! CAN'T YOU SEE HOW WEAK I AM?" always gets me.

Fun fact: Scanlan's backstory is based on Eminem's story, he was with a travelling music group with Dr. Dranzel (Dr. Dre), and he has a daughter named Kaylie (Eminem's daughter is named Hayley).

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

Don't forget 'Scanlan Shorthalt' and 'Marshall Mathers'

@royalrosepetal

7 ай бұрын

Actually the Kaylie thing was a coincidence because Matt didn’t know Scanlan was based on Eminem and Sam didn’t put Kaylie in his backstory

@GrandmaNUT

7 ай бұрын

@@royalrosepetal Oh wow

After the battle, Matt (the DM) told the players that the Herd only stopped fighting when Kevdak died because it was Grog who landed the killing blow. If it had been anyone else, the fight would have kept going.

The show chose not to make it so, but the battle against Kevdak and the Herd was a very, very close call for Vox Machina. They came real close to a Total Party Kill, but Travis rolled miraculously (as he does, except when he doesn't) and Grog bodied Kevdak, which was the one condition they needed to fulfill for the Herd to stop fighting

Yes, Percy literally invented guns. The List was the very first gun ever created. This was due to their transition from Pathfinder to DND when they started streaming. Pathfinder has a gunslinger class, DND does not. So Matt (DM) and Taliesin (Percy) made a homebrew subclass for fighter called gunslinger and decided that Percy would be the inventor of firearms, to explain why he was the only person who had them. Also, Scanlan’s VA has literally been in Broadway shows! So yes, that was his VA actually singing lol

@MrDesax

7 ай бұрын

Scanlan's VA also won a grammy, an information Sam feels always eager to share at any moment

@KharnDidNothingWrong

7 ай бұрын

Wasn't a Grammy but a Daytime Emmy for Outstanding Directing.

@hhylobates4098

7 ай бұрын

Well...Percy's backstory existed from the beginning while they were still playing pathfinder, so they didnt retcon the worlds guns out when they transitioned to a new system. He was always the first gunsmith.

@PristineTX

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@MrDesax He won an Emmy, not a Grammy.

@radicaladz

3 ай бұрын

All of Percy's weapons in the campaign are named after some form of communication: the guns The List and Retort, his shock glove Diplomacy, the sniper rifle Bad News ("nothing travels faster"), and a ball of magical restraints which responds to the password "Manners". Ripley's gun, Animus, means either "hostility or ill feeling" or "motivation to do something". When I created a magical silenced pistol for a PC in my own Exandria-set campaign, I was well pleased when they chose to name it, with zero input from me, "Liar".

"Rolled a Nat 20 on the 2nd Amendment!" killed me 🤣🤣🤣

The monster was an illusion, the hand is a different spell lol

In the campaign, Grog legitimately had ONE HP LEFT at the end lol

@RoxyGotMoxy.

Ай бұрын

the only HP that matters is the last one.

16:51 the party was never split in the game. They did it for narrative reasons for the tv show. Pike, Scanlon, and Grog went to the Fey Wild with the rest to get the bow. And the half elves and Percy were with Grog when he took on Kevdak

Kevdak: *rips own arm off.* Grog: *Game recognize game*

I CANNOT WAIT until they meet the Mighty Nein, I’m so fucking pumped because I know they’ll love them just as much as Vox Machina and it just makes me anticipate the animated series for the Nein

@nomnomnorm8035

7 ай бұрын

Same fellow commenter, same.

@sleepy6613

7 ай бұрын

The dread of molly tho😔

@kaitlynwickham6237

7 ай бұрын

​@@sleepy6613We get to see Caleb's backstory, yay! 😭

@troikas3353

7 ай бұрын

Likewise. The Mighty Nein is basically fantasy Farscape and I adore it. Plus Beau is my favorite CR character.

@sodapop6164

7 ай бұрын

man, caleb's backstory is some of my favorite in all of fiction and molly hits like a brick so i'm super hyped as well

The plotarmour discussion cracked me up at the end. "You make a dumb decision" and my mind went to the diving fish... . I really hope we get to that moment sometime in the future😂

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

We had better 😂

@Just_a-guy

Ай бұрын

That was fine, they were gods. Dont you remember?

Episode 10 is my absolute favorite this season, the fight was epic, the music was on point, the plot twist at the end... it had it all! Answering some questions: Scanlan's magic (in the show) is very illusion-based, so although Scanlan's hand is physical, he didn't actually summon a monster, it was an illusion In the campaign the group never separated, things happened a bit differently but all the big story beats are basicall the same (separating the group in dnd is almost never a good idea lmao)

It was so awesome to see Grog have this epic face off with Kevdak completing his arc. And that twist at the end with Scanalan is just perfect.The best episode of season 2

So happy you enjoyed this. Since you were asking about the herd and what type of people they were: Vox Machina invited the Herd to fight the dragon with them for more bodies and to weaken or even destroy the Herd. Its not as explicitly stated here cause they dont get a moment alone but Grog did say hey my uncle was an asshole but even without him the Herd is still raiders who will kill innocent villagers in less defended areas. So he convinced the rest to let the Herd help them so more members would die and the Herd would either be eliminated or severely weakened since Vox Machina didnt have the resources to kill them all themselves especially while gearing up for a dragon attacj. That whole bar scene Grog was playing politics masterfully.

About Mighty Nein series (based on the second campaign): while it's set in the same world of Exandria, it's separated by time (about 25 years) and space (another continent). And any connections to Vox Machina's adventures aren't used until quite late into the story (and even then it's mostly some familiar supporting characters, no one from the main cast). As such, don't think of it as a sequel or a spin-off per se. Think of it like another show set in the same setting but with little to none in common with the first show other than an occasional crossover moment. To better imagine how it would be, think Marvel or DC animated series, especially those from the 90s, where they really kept separate with only a couple guest episodes for characters from other contemporary shows every now and then. Thus, Mighty Nein likely won't discuss Vox Machina's story even if two shows run parallel to one another initially and can be watched safely without worrying too much about late-comer spoilers. Also, let's face it, it's been 3 years between Vox Machina announcement and first season, sure covid delayed a lot, but still I think it won't be until 2025, possibly 26 till we see the first Mighty Nein season and at that point Vox Machina may be coming to a close anyway (depending how they decide to deal with the filler adventures arc they had after Chroma Conclave in tabletop).

@lostdmg7511

7 ай бұрын

Think of it as more similar to the likes of Legend of Korra, same world, but entirely new contexts

@theprideling

7 ай бұрын

I'm so curious what they're gonna do between the Chroma Conclave arc and the [REDACTED] Arc... if and how they're going to include good ol' T.D. ... I mean they have to, right? And at what point are they even gonna start us on TM9??? The beginning of the adventure is super scattered (as early-lvl adventures tend to be) all the way until M.T's [REDACTED] But NOT inculding that would be missing how that party even became a proper party.

@hhylobates4098

7 ай бұрын

@@theprideling If they are doing 5 seasons for Vox theres definitely room for T.D & D, and I think that extra arc and the gap year are actually necessary for the Lament thing to have the proper impact. As for the Nein they have to start from the beginning, scattered events will be naturally tidied up through the adaptation; I can see them pointing focus on how the war affects *everything* despite the group adamantly avoiding direct involvement to better tie into later seasons(lack of support to Alfield, impact on the criminal underworld, Kiris family, Hupperdooks industry etc). My vague guess at the 12 episodes would be 1-2 Trostenwald, 3 Alfeild, 4-7 Zadash, 8 LAbenda, 9 Hupperdook, 10-12 Iron Shepherds ending with the return to Zadash

@Kadel___

7 ай бұрын

​@@hhylobates4098Actually my guess would be that the first season would end with the beginning of the Iron Shepherds arc. Cuz man that's such a big cliffhanger for new fans. It also had such a huge impact and kinda changed the direction and development of the characters moving forward.

@hhylobates4098

7 ай бұрын

@@Kadel___ See i don't think they'd split the arc like that, start chopping up the story in odd places and it will mess with the pacing; if the shephers arc spills i to season 2, that's mans the pirate arc will have to also run into season 3. And sure its an intense, pivotal event but I don't think it works as a climactic season ending battle, its not like the Hupperdook battle with the gearwarden can be jazzed up to be the dramatic end of season 1s main arc and the first shepherd's fight be the opening to a new one, theyre all part of the same foundational adventures. Like you said those early events were scattered, and letting them scatter ever further across multiple seasons instead of tighting the story isn't the way to do it imo

Fun Fact: Scanlan doesn’t have a dragon…it’s more of a 2” cube 😂

@Lngbrdninjamasta

7 ай бұрын

Cannon

@wiredjerk

7 ай бұрын

@@Lngbrdninjamasta Actually I was being a bit generous, it’s canonically “one and a half inches…which, on a gnome, is pretty big!”

I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this but there is a confirmed season 3 for Vox Machina in addition to the new show. The second campaign is called Mighty Nein and it would be really cool to see a reaction to that trailer if you haven't already seen it.

@JnEricsonx

7 ай бұрын

"I PROTECT HIM."

The crazy part that you wouldnt know from the show is that Grog was beaten so bad in this fight that when Vex put him in the locket, he was at 1 HP. Meaning one single hit would've knocked him unconscious. She then did in fact release him in the air to come down on Kevdak and Travis legit rolled a natural 20 (a critical hit) on that kill shot. Then he died from the fall damage and needed to be healed. It was epic. Like many other moments in this show!

The first time I saw when Grog was pushed onto the spike, my own stomach started to ache in sympathy pains. It was so well animated for that visceral reaction! And now you all can see how Scanlan was based on Eminem- MM/SS, Dr Dre and Dr Dranzel, Hailie and Kaylie... Fun fact: the DM named Kaylie before he realized who the player based the character on, it was a perfect coincidence!

There is something that comes after the Chroma Conclave. There is also something that is still ...spinning ?

The whole kill box episode is so good. I can’t not get chills and overwhelmed with feelings when grog gets his strength back. It was so perfect

The show didn't have time to do both of these archs in series and make it make sense (travel and everything) so they split the party in the show. In the stream they were all together in both of these archs.

@nosliwec

7 ай бұрын

The animators during the watch party also mentioned it was easier to animate with only half of the party together. So they determined which grouping made the most sense to achieve both arcs.

Matt Mercer's face when Laura explains what she's doing is one of my favorite moments of campaign one.

Yeah, I don't know if it's been said yet, but Sam Riegal, the voice of Scanlan, would often do plays on songs to heal, inspire, etc. in campaign. He was on Broadway as a kid and a boy band as a teen, and he's actually a good singer, so in the show, he actually does all the singing for Scanlan still. There are actually some fan compilations of all the times Sam as Scanlan would sing during the campaign

PLEASE check out the original campaign or comparisons, these episodes have amazing moments in particular. From Kevdak's death to Kaylie's reveal.

There is another arc beyond the Chroma Conclave Arc. I'm hoping for at least 5 seasons of Vox Machina. And as you mentioned, their second campaign The Mighty Nein is already in production!

@endycore4920

7 ай бұрын

yep i bet 5 seasons minimal, some people believe that having 6 seasons would be better.

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

Sam said in one of the watch parties their hope is at least 5 seasons for LoVM 🤞🏻

@PaulGuy

5 күн бұрын

There's two, really. One with the little elf girl and one with a legally-distinct bad guy. There's realistically more, but they could trim things down to just those, and probably run a season each. I certainly wouldn't mind expanding on the post-CC period a bit, though.

25:14 Why yes, that is indeed (doubly!) Emmy award winning Sam Riegel aka Scanlan Shorthalt's player/voice actor singing. He and his brother in law also wrote all the Scanlan Songs for the show.

As part of CR's deal with amazon, there are futures seasons for this show in plan! season 3 may be out by early 2024 Having their 2nd campaign animated is also a part of that deal - it would be another show set somewhere else in the same world focusing on the another group of characters they played. As someone who first fell with the 2nd campaign, it's characters and it's themes - I personally can't wait.

@georgerobins4110

7 ай бұрын

I really hope they’ll animate campaign 3 some day too! FCG my beloved

@nosliwec

7 ай бұрын

I am hoping they announce a season 4 (maybe 5) of Vox Machina to tie up the rest of the campaign as I feel that season 3 will finish Arc 3. I can see them skipping Taryon Darrington and combining parts of Arc 4 and 5 into season 4 and finish up Vox Machina.

@georgerobins4110

7 ай бұрын

@@nosliwec wouldn’t skipping Tary involve skipping A Bard’s Lament a bit? There’s definitely setup for that

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

They cannot skip 'A Bards Lament' or Tary. They've already been dropping hints about it. It was too critical a moment to cut out. Spoilers... ...besides I need to see Keyfish!!! There's also a very important moment with the Kraken that needs to be seen for additional moments down at the end too (Vax 😬)

(At 6:06) Grog: WHAT THE *FUCK* DID YOU JUST SAY?! THAT… should have been his response when he charged in.

The killbox is some of the most gorgeous fight animation of the year!! Absolutely slaps!!

the one character yall see 100% continuously is Lady Allura. She's Matt's (The DM) avatar in thee game that he uses to be there with the PCs

@Kadel___

7 ай бұрын

I think Allura now is officially the only NPC that has shown up in all 3 campaigns. Arti is probably the only other character that I can think of that could show up.

@Heatstruct

4 ай бұрын

@Kadel___ Arti hasn't shown up in campaign 3 directly yet (the Mighty Nein one-shot is canon but separate), but Kiki has also been in every campaign, so has Kima. Allura has be said by Matt to be his personal avatar into the game that has all the knowledge that he could give her to be useful without making her broken.

Please do yourselves the favour of looking up the end of the Kevdak fight in the campaign. It was _SO_ fucking hype. They'd been fighting for hours and it wasn't going great for them. And then that play by Vex and that fucking _perfect_ roll from Grog. He was attacking recklessly (meaning he could roll twice and take the better result) and he literally rolled a natural 1 and a natural 20. And when Matt confirmed that did it, that table fucking _exploded._

So Critical role changed up a few things from the campaign for the show like the dragon never really showed up at the sphinx's place and the group being split up never happened so Matt (the dm) didn't really have trouble keeping track of the timey wimey stuff in the game since the group were all together.

He rolled a Nat 20 on 2nd amendment 😂😂😂

not many people know about the obscure curse that was cast on Kevdak before that fight. ....one by a certain Wil Wheaton...

In response to 16:27 -- in the campaign, the party wasn't split. They went after each vestige as a group one by one. They split the party in the Amazon show to fit everything into 12 episodes.

There is a 3rd season of Vox planned that should wrap up this story arc. I could see them possibly doing 2 more seasons after that and wrapping it up with the the Whispered One arc. They also have a show in the works for the 2nd season of Critical Role, which is the Mighty Nein, but the last I heard that was just in the story board phase, so probably won't be out for a while yet.

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

Spoilers! Be careful what you say as you don't know what they know... ...I would replace Vecna with Whispered One

There is _at least_ another season of TLoVM coming, that has already been greenlit and has been in production at least since S2 came out. No release date yet, but hopefully sometime next year. And for reference Critical Role has said that they are aiming for 5 seasons total to adapt the Vox Machina campaign (campaign 1). As for other campaigns, at the moment all that is confirmed is that we are getting at least one season of an as of yet unnamed animated show that will be covering (part of) the events of their second campaign (about a group of heroes called The Mighty Nein). That show will essentially be a sister show to TLoVM, set in the same world, but on a different continent and about 20ish years after the events of TLoVM.

16:22 You split up the party into separate sessions, so you'd handle one group's arc until they're "done" and are on their way to reunite with the others, then you rewind and handle the second group's stuff for a few sessions until they get to the same point and regroup.

Campaign 2 "Mighy Nien" is coming out soon along side of ALL of campaign 1 ""Vox Machina".

Oh perfect timing. I just waked and baked lol

@SnackityWackity

7 ай бұрын

Bro, they did it for both of us

16:40 this was adapted from the original canon. Originally the whole party went to the fey wild then the whole party went to Westrun. Splitting them up was efficient since Team big small can tackle the sword arc and the Kevdak arc's exposition ahead of time. Plus the animators didn't have to animate 7 people 24/7

@ghurcbghurcb

7 ай бұрын

The other way around, actually. Westruun first, Feywild second.

@yiklongtay6029

7 ай бұрын

@@ghurcbghurcb yes and no. CUz you know, 2 visits. Point taken

I knew you guys would love ep 10! Grogs fight with kevdak is the most chilling exciting fight of all!!!

From what I can tell from the pacing, there will probably be at least 5 or 6 total seasons of Vox Machina. Because the Chroma Conclave is not the final arc of the Vox Machina campaign. Fortunately, they have also been green-lit to create an animated series of their second campaign, the Mighty Nein. And I know there's a LOT of hype and anticipation for that campaign, largely because a lot of "Critters" (fans of Critical Role) actually started with that campaign. And the MCs of that campaign are REALLY amazing. Vox Machina's MCs are VERY tropy and their story is much closer to the "traditional" fantasy quest formula, largely because it started as a home game without any expectations of a wider audience. The Mighty Nein is ... quite different. Pretty much every member of that party is a social outcast, and most have a literal criminal record. And the campaign itself takes some VERY surprising and unanticipated twists and turns. The character development and growth in that campaign is top notch, and it's just ... it's really good you guys. So I hope you guys open your hearts to chaos and also give that series a look when it comes out!

Yep, Percy was the one who invented guns in this world. Which is why 30 years later (during the current campaign they're in) he's known in many corners of their world as the Terrible Tinkerer of Tal'dorei. Cause now this world has guns and that's not a good thing sometimes lol.

In the original game, Grog rolled a critical with that axe drop. Amazing.

Who still needs vestiges: Pike, Percy, Keyleth (Also Scanlan has to get Mythcarver back)

So if it helps with the timeline of events, at this point Scanlan is 69 years old (because of course he is) and I believe Kaylee is in her early 20s. Gnomes live much longer than humans and I believe only slightly shorter than elves, which is why Pike's great great grandfather looks like a spry 60.

@johna6352

7 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly, gnomes live to between 350-500ish...they grow to adulthood at about the same rate as humans, but then aging slows. Elves live till about 750 to 1200ish depending on setting and game edition...

(At 3:30) Yeah, this is probably one of those "things I'm not really proud of" moments isn't it?

(At 6:39) And here's Pike when she used to have black hair.

16:01 in the live campaign everyone went to the Fey Realm.

i can't wait until we get to the mighty nein. they're all so fucking unhinged

the group splitting was to help the show go faster. they did everything together in the game, and took much more time and detail than 10 episodes can't fit

In Scanlan's backstory (on the stream), Scanlan used to tour with Dr. Dranzel. In fact, Sam Riegel had used Eminem's life as his back story (Marshal Mathers became Scanlan Shorthalt and Dr. Dre became Dr. Dranzel.) I am uncertain as to whether he had named Kayleigh or not because the campaign he was quite shocked to learn she was his daughter, but also Hailie (Eminem's daughter) became Kayleigh. Scanlan was an aspiring bard who got discovered by Dr. Dranzel. Sam Riegel mentioned this on a watch session of this season.

In the original show Umbrasil never kills the sphix and the party never split up.

You should definitely watch the campaign clip of Scanlan trying to sleep with Kaylie and finding out she's his daughter. Comedy gold.

My understanding is that Vox Machina is planned as a 5 season series. Season 3 has already been confirmed, I don't know if they're already locked in for the full series. Mighty Nein is functionally a spin-off. Like someone else mentioned, it's set after Vox Machina ends and follows completely different characters in a different part of the same world. FUCK this show is good! Rage, motherfuckers. RAGE!

Super late to this but I like to bring it up anyways. D&D ages get kind of crazy when it comes to different races. Ages mature at the same rate, but at around 20 or years old, aging slows drastically for many. Humans have their average age of 80, meanwhile half elves can live to reach 180. However, it can also be really really sad. Gnomes for instance can live to be 500 years old in some cases. Wilhand (Pike's grandfather) is 345 years old. If a gnome became friends with a human, they could very easily live long enough to watch them get married, have kids, have grandchildren, attend their funeral, help raise their grandchildren, and at some point in the future watch the grandchildren age and die and attending their funerals too. All over not even half their lifespan. Now thinking back, I can see why elf/human relationships are frowned upon... you marry your partner, they die in not even a decade's time in your lifespan, and even your half elf children die before you become elderly.

18:35 😅 this doesn't really have anything to do with LoVM, but the whole 'If you make a dumb decision, if the dice aren't on your side, your character can and will die' thing just happens to be pretty relevant in the ongoing Critical role campaign rn.

Yeah, Vox Machina has a season 3 coming up and hopefully, we'll get into the final arc for a season 4. The Mighty Nein, based on campaign 2, is currently in production at least from the voice-acting process because the strikes are over. Also, a lot of the Kevdak fight is 1-to-1 from the campaign itself. All the way down to Vex asking Grog about "doing something crazy" with the locket. THAT even took Matt a minute to understand what Laura was asking until she said "No, I want to put Grog in the f*cking ball!" And the whole table exploded with Laura's brilliance. :D Currently, it would be Pike, Keyleth, and Percy that need vestiges. Season 3 with round up vestige hunting and the dragons and maybe... SPOILERS. :D

Idk if anyone's already mentioned this but they didn't get split up in the campaign. That was so we could tell both the Feywild story and the Grog story at the same time, because not everybody needed to be there for both of those to work in the series. In the original campaign the whole group went to the Feywild AND the whole group went to Westrunn. That said I've played in a campaign where the group got split and how we handled it is that half of us played a couple of sessions with the DM and then the other half played a couple of other sessions and then we came together again like a month down the line to share what we'd been up to. As for the time slippage, yeah you can hand wave a lot of travelling by asking the players to roll survival a few times then say "so you've been travelling uneventfully for a week" or "you stay for a few days at Willhand's place recovering"

Grog spared the old man's life because it reminded him of how he never had the chance to love his dad. His uncle is the main reason why he became a killer.

@hhylobates4098

7 ай бұрын

Maybe not; we know nothing about Grogs father here other than Kevdak saying he was spinless. In the original he was present when Grog was beaten, banished and did nothing, so Grog cared little for him

There's one more major arc after the Chroma Conclave from the original Vox Machina campaign, but it wasn't quite as long as the Conclave arc. They also had a few short post-campaign adventures with Vox Machina. My guess is that they'll finish up the CC arc in season 3, the last arc with season 4, and maybe a shortened season 5 for the post-campaign stuff.

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

Oh geez, I think they need 2 seasons for everything after the Chroma Conclave. There's too much to clean up in one season. I think any one-shots might be considered additional seasons or maybe even movies since that was something discussed as possibilities once they green lit Mighty Nein 🤞🏻

(At 0:45) Oh shit! THAT didn't take long

Percy listening to their counting the vestigaes NO THATS FINE. I DONT NEED ONE

Percy made a deal with orthax that provided the missing part to Cleese the list (the first gun), the reason that this world has firearms is because of a pact with a Demon!

Just to clarify about Percy being the inventor of guns in the show: they don't say it explicitly, but the characters don't call his weapons, guns, and they're confused on what exactly they are in the first place, which implies that he is the first person to wield guns. Hope that clarifies things.

No you don't understand, 'At Dawn We Plan' was literally the title of an episode of the campaign 😂

Episode 10 is probably one of my favorites in the season and maybe in even the whole series-

Chroma Conclave is likely all of next season and maybe another, then there are 2 more smaller arcs that finish up the campaign. SO I think a minimum of 5 seasons to finish up VM campaign and that's probably rushing it.

cioni's "he's american" comment about percy killed me

33:56 Scanlan is roughly Irish for Scandal

Plenty have explained how the split didn't happen originally but I'll just add; it *wouldnt* have happened the way they show it here. Rather than leave a fatally injured Pike to a fate unknown with a Grog that was obviously being driven to blind violence, Team Double Date would have teleported back out of the Feywild to find them at the earliest opportunity. AND despite appearances Grog is not a complete idiot, facing Kevdak alone was plain suicidal and would have achieved nothing, nevermind the gnomes would not have let him walk in there. Grog had been with his friends long enough to know his strength came from them, he wouldnt have faced the herd without their support.

Huh, well, things are sure getting more and more interesting here, what’s next? Hm, actually, do we know how many Seasons this is going to be?

It should be said that the show isn't an exact one for one recreation of the campaign they played. The main story points and events mostly stay the same, but finer details are mixed, matched and changed. A lot is cut for the sake of brevity too. So little things, like finding a hole in the wall, probably weren't in the actual campaign, not every event was a roll, etc. Also in the campaign they went to Feywild together and then traveled to Westruun after. Just clarifying ;) But it's still fun to think about the show as a DND game.

The first Critical Role campaign has enough content that they could stretch this series out to 6 seasons.

The timeline is actually easier explained: they actually never separated for these journey’s, it’s just in the interest of time for animation they made choices to keep the story still accurately represented all the major beats hit but also told faster.

Have you heard tale of Scanlan the Bard? Or Burt Reynolds if you look at his card Always tries to get laid Sometimes with ladies he made But I still respect him because rhyming is hard

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

Oh Pike!!! I remember this gem 😂

The group didn’t split up in the campaign, they did that as a way of condensing events for the show

Out of the Feywild and now on to Westruun, with a bit of combinations going about. The traveling band, Dr Dranzel's Spectacular Traveling Troupe, were in fact one of Scanlan's old buddies, which they meet before the Conclave attacked (like it was not long before they attacked they all dodged a bullet there) alongside Kaylie, Scanlan's daughter who he unknowingly flirted with over 2 episodes. Adding it to Westruun worked out well though since it pushed along a few things both for Scanlan's personal arc and then also get more time to set up Grog vs Kevdak, while also making sure that they don't go straight into romancing Pike (Keyleth and Vax also, the one time she plays it cool and he doesn't even clock it, poor girl, Matron's a cockblocker). But the story belongs to Grog of course, a vestige tied to his own history with his uncle Kevdak and the brutal past of the herd. Sometimes in battle you simply win by enemies keeling over, but in Critical Role there are 7 words all players want to hear: How Do You Want To Do This? The HDYWTDT is a staple of Critical Role to allow the players to finish off an enemy as creatively or emotively as possible, Marisha Ray has it tattooed on her, and for Travis - who probably has the most combined HDYWTDTs - he indeed has Grog cleave down his uncle with the war cry 'For Strongjaw', adding the Reckless ability to inflict more damage at risk to himself. It almost killed Grog in the process due to the 50ft drop, though the whole group were very wounded from the endeavor, since there were a swarm of enemies to deal with. Grog turned his skull into a cup. Do like the show's 'We all rage' music they used for the fight, Scanlan parodying songs for healing and inspiration was cool but of course you can't really get away with that in a show.

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

The 50' drop wouldn't have been so bad if he hadn't been at 1 HP lol...Grog's a tank, but had taken a beating prior to it

I somehow watched your reaction to the last 2 episodes before watching this

If yall wanna know a funny little tidbit about Scanlan's backstory, just google Eminem's backstory. Scanlan's entire story is inspired if not completely stolen from Eminem. Discovered by Doctor Dranzel (Dr. Dre), has a kid named Kaylie (Hailie). Scanlan's entire backstory is a joke and a ripoff lol

My understanding is that if they (Critical Role) get to do it how they want, The Legend of Vox Machina will be 5 seasons in total... maybe 6 tops, and only if they know going into season 4 so that the story can be adapted to fit, but I think their aim is for 5. The Mighty Nein has already been greenlit for a first season and could run for about as long.

It has been confirmed, that there will be a Vox Machina season 3. I don't think they have said how many season they plan on making for Vox Machina, but with this type of pace a guess it that they could tell the entire campaign in 5 seasons. Canonically the second campaign, that has already been greenlit for it's own series takes place some years after the end of Vox Machinas adventures, but they must have a plan, for that not being a problem storytelling wise..

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

Sam actually did mention their hope for LoVM is 5 seasons during one of the watch parties.

We are greenlit for 1 more season of VM, with easy potential of 1 or 2 more seasons of VM

@Becky31389

7 ай бұрын

Sam said in one of the watch parties this season that their hope is 5 seasons for LoVM 🤞🏻🤞🏻

There is no plot armor. You're seeing the story after it's compete. What happened with Vex in the tomb if that roll had been failed in game this story would have been different.

Percy also doesn't have a vestige

I believe this group has maybe 1 or 2 seasons left. But that is pure guess.

Bro they were acting like viltrumites 😂 😂😂

FOOOOOR... STRONGJAAAAAW!!!

was waiting for this hype pair of episodes. Guys, place your bets. Will they make the mistake assuming the gnome was Pike's mom? It's such a common misunderstanding for most reactors. CR kinda dropped the ball with how little they communicated this is just black-haired pike

@thatonejewishkid5108

7 ай бұрын

them having her call her great grand pa or however many greats just grandpa didnt help too much

@michaelmcintyre3871

7 ай бұрын

Except that it seemed pretty clear that Pike didn't know the story of that initial meeting when Grog was telling it. And if that was just a younger Pike then she would have already known the full story. There's dialogue from Pike that heavily implies she's not aware of the particulars of that meeting, that her earliest memories of Grog were well after that friendship had been established. That's what I was confused about at first, because visually and with the voice it seemed like a younger Pike, but the dialogue and context simply does not make sense that way. He told her the story like she had no clue about it. Could it be that it was Pike in the original play through, but they made it her mom for this retelling so that Grog would have a reason to tell the story? I didn't watch the original gaming sessions, but I am aware they've changed a lot of other details for storytelling purposes.

@yiklongtay6029

7 ай бұрын

@@michaelmcintyre3871 Pike's origin explicitly involves saving Grog. Grog was a player before Pike joined the campaign and they cleverly massaged her into Grog's backstory to integrate her into the group. Pike is the only family member that Wilheim housed and her parents are stated to be missing/absent. It is a noted plot point that the Trickfoots are generally problematic and Pike and Wilheim are the rare good eggs There is also a canonical reason why Pike's hair turned from black to white. And it will probably not get explained in the TV series. Like I said. The dialogue caused so many incorrect implications

@georgerobins4110

7 ай бұрын

@@yiklongtay6029I think Pike’s white hair might get explained in a flashback? Maybe after A Bard’s Lament or something

@michaelmcintyre3871

7 ай бұрын

@@yiklongtay6029 : I get that in the actual roleplaying it was her, but have they confirmed it's supposed to be her in the animation as well? Because it's clearly a different version of the story, an adaptation, not an exact retelling. Because the dialogue and interactions make literally less than zero sense for it to be her in the animated version. So if that was the intent, it is a clear failure of the writing in that case. Again, you've made it clear it was her in the original gameplay, my question is about the animated version. Do you have solid confirmation there? And if so, can you link where you got that confirmation?

To answer your question how you handle two groups time skipping. Here's the answer. You don't. They were never split up in the game, the show is NOT a 1 to 1 retelling of their campaign. They did a LOT more in the Fey Wild in the campaign too.

I love that in both the campaign and the show they just skipped over the fact that Grog completely reneged on his promise of single combat when he started loosing.

@hhylobates4098

7 ай бұрын

Pretty sure it was touched on a little in the campaign; something along the line of "Really honor means nothing to these people so why should be honor their rules." Like the killbox fight is set right in front of the margraves house where his and other towns peoples heads are on spikes, the herd grabbed villagers to use as hostages/sheilds

@expendablegerbil

7 ай бұрын

@@hhylobates4098 Honestly don't remember that but then again it's kind of hard to remember everything that happened in 500 hours of gameplay.

The groups splitting up was not how it happened in the actual campaign. They never split up in the game.

Great video

I swear if there isn't a season 3 im gonna scream

@krcode7971

7 ай бұрын

Season 3 was Green lit at the same time as season 2, it is already in production, it is expected to air in early 2024

@eagleangel5568

7 ай бұрын

@@krcode7971 okay good

@endycore4920

7 ай бұрын

rumored early 2024, also Mighty Nein in in the production

Amazons already aproved season 3 and I bet there will be at least 4 they have also approved a second campaign show of atleast one season and another side project maybe a movie or a four part mini series too. All for Critical Role. So Amazon is throwing some serious cash at these creators.