Who doesn’t already know that you always subtract one person from the claimed amount? You should know that as an experienced person. I have the Allak 3 as a roomy one person tent. At most it’s a 2 person. If you want a 3 man tent, buy a four man tent at least.

Accomplished and interesting vid. 👍

@mowsertas

9 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Everytime when i pitch my Allak 2 I'm so happy. I like the look, I like the feel, I like the space I like everything but the weight. But it manageable after all.

To be fair, these two tents cannot be compared as they are completely different products. The access is a good tent, but the materials are much lighter (and thus they can take less of a beating), it’s an inner tent first setup (making it pretty much useless in very wet climates) and the pole structure is much more flimsy compared to the Allak. Yes, the Access is much lighter but it comes at a cost.

@mowsertas

16 күн бұрын

Totally agree. Since making this I’ve been looking closely at some Hilleberg tents for use in more extreme conditions. Will most likely give the hilleberg another chance soon.

I have rarely found a tent size quoted as being nothing more than a guideline from the manufacturer. When I took my kids I bought a 3 man Coleman, cant remember which one, because in the showroom I stuffed my kids in to check the room, Husky also. Only tent that had the room but paid the price with the weight. I solo camp nowadays but use a so called 2 man for myself. I have a number of these, Hoolie 2, Terra Nova Voyager are roomy and have seen all UK storms in these. I do have smaller one man tents, Hilleberg solo (bring ear plugs), a great little one man Robens, and a Nemo1P ( 2 season, 3 at a push} I tend to use the single tents when bike packing. I also haver a Rab ridge raider for the odd night but tend to use it as an all season bivvy bag, (not for the claustrophobic). I am hoping my kids, now all adults, will buy their own tents, but if have to share will apply the "add 1" principle to the sizing.

@mowsertas

2 ай бұрын

yes, that is the ethos i always apply now and always use a 3 man as a 2 man!

Thanks for the input.i,m now looking at the fjallraven abisko dome 3.more room plus 2 lower side vents which if my girls are with me should reduce condensation.cheers mate.

@mowsertas

7 ай бұрын

Happy to provide some input. Don’t get me wrong, hilleberg make great tents. Definitely interested to hear how the Fjalleaven goes!

Thinking about upgrading to allak 2for myself, something i dont have to worry about ik a windy winter camp

thank you for this good video. I owned the msr access 2 and also the hilleberg allak 2. The Allak 2 was to small for me and my dog. The Msr Access is not a four season tent, that is my opinion for Swedish conditions not works. So now i use the Hilleberg Staika and i love this tent, but heavy 4 kg. Maybe the Kerron 3 fit 3 persons, but heavy 4,2 kg.

@mowsertas

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience with different tents! It's always helpful to hear from fellow campers and get their insights on gear. Happy camping!

How do you pitch the MSR access in heavy rain as a whole? Or use the tent as shelter without inner tent? I think you cant, right? This both makes the Hilleberg VERY different and advanced and therefore difficult to compare this two typ of tents, right? The Hilleberg you can pitch in bad weather condition, while everything will get pretty wet once you try to pitch the MSR inner tent first before adding the outer tent when its raining...

@mowsertas

2 күн бұрын

Yes you are absolutely correct. Will be testing another hilleberg in the future.

Nice vid mate... IMHO Hilleberg makes the BEST tents on the planet and I've used a lot. I would say for me Fjällräven is 2nd and other brands I like are TNF, Mountain Hardware, Eureka, Nordisk, Terra Nova. Samaya, Others are just ok like Black Diamond, Nemo, BA, and MSR. I have NEVER owned an MSR tent that didn't leak. Moved too much in bad winds. I have a Staika (BL) and it's the top three tents I own. If you can afford it and can split the weight, the Keron or Nammaj 3 are both BL and super strong (not freestanding tho). Just my thoughts.... I would always by a Staika over the Allak (although has better ventilation).

@mowsertas

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! Some great experience to speak from there by the sounds of it! Will pay more attention to those other brands in future for sure! Haven' looked at the Fjällräven tents but am going to have a good look now!

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@mowsertas

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!🙏

I can verify as an owner of both Allak2 and 3 that the latter is rather a large two person tent especially in wintertime with loads of gear and thick sleeping bags, frozen condesation on the walls and ceiling etc. You may fit in three adults with regular width pads but I would not take my largest friends with me because I appreciate some space and possibility to more or less live in the tent in case of many days bad weather. A fast trip with no intention to spend much time in the tent and regular sized mates who know how to keep their stuff and gadgets well organized, then Allak 3 might be spaciuous enough for three. The weight difference between 2 and 3 is so small I would prefer the bigger one in most cases.

@mowsertas

6 ай бұрын

Great advice! Thanks for sharing!

Tent dimensions are an issue for the 6 feet and limit options considerably unless you want to brush up on the sides of the walls. That said some companies are getting on board with the 25-inch pads and making the bases that bigger to accommodate. Classic you upsize what you want to fit with a tent size +1 of the number of people you want to bring, eg you get a 4-man tent next time. My goto has been Kathmandu’s Northstar XT, got it for a steal at $150, RRP800?(simalier to the Macpac Olympus), a 2 man 4season has 6 guys lines+4 additional... but don't use them, with gear inside I only use 4 for the outer fly vestibules, a little more weight but the solid tent in any condition. Yep, 3.5kg but never had an issue in the 10ish years camping. still looks brand new.

@mowsertas

Ай бұрын

A lot of wisdom here! Love it! Am looking at a Northstar for the kids!

@wobblysauce

Ай бұрын

Oh the inner tent doesn't flap is is tought. Longish tent at 385cm duel entrance at each end with vestibules the sleeping area is 230cm so plenty of room to stretch out that most don't get close to. Some dislike the tunnel-style access vs the side entrance of others, for me, kneel unzip foot out and stand up. Oh tent openings are duel-headed zippers but the fly is tri-headed which has confused some people I have travelled with. Setup is maybe 5min, out of the bag, unroll and fold, (2 pegs in an end if blowing a gale) poles in and erect(grey then red with red /\ bend in the middle over the doorway) pickup and decide on placement vs wind. If the fly was taken off, it is just a few clips around the base am normally not one to connect up the fly velcro to the poles, just keeps the fly more centred in wilder winds and can be done once inside with gear already placed if wet out. Collapse is not that much longer, 4 pegs out, poles out, tri-fold base to the middle, place poles and pegs at one end, roll it up and in the bag.

Just a few thoughts: Hilleberg will sometimes produce a tent with faulty tension on the fabric, especially common around 2020 production. It’s not all tents, yours was simply faulty. The Allak is a great tent but its definitely not one of the strongest from Hilleberg, especially the 3 as it’s bigger. I’ve used my Keron tents on Greenland expedition and those are the best tents in high winds that don’t change direction and on snow. The MSR is not very strong, despite the marketing. My buddy Tom Heanley has great videos on that. You can check it out and know what it can handle. Cheers

@mowsertas

7 ай бұрын

Fantastic information. Thanks so much! Will check out Tom Heanley!

The Hilleberg and MSR are very different tents with different uses. Hilleberg is ment for scandinavian or other conditions where (a lot of) rain is expected. The MSR is a inner first tent and is more or less useless around here in Sweden and Norway as the inner will get wet before you get the fly on. It may work in snow, as the snow will fall off the inner. The MSR may very well be a better choise in dry areas.

@mowsertas

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for your detailed explanation of the differences between the Hilleberg and MSR tents! It's always great to have a clear understanding of the intended uses for different camping gear.

Hi Mowser, wow - funny that. I made almost an exactly the same video as this. I actually traded my Allak 2 to a guy in Tasmania (for his Nammatj 2). I actually got a fair amount of backlash from people disagreeing with me that the Allak was too flimsy for high winds (but they're all wrong). lol.

@mowsertas

7 ай бұрын

Crazy! How is the Nammatj? Have looked at them too!

@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors

6 ай бұрын

@@mowsertas I'm very fond of it - quick setup as long as the ground isnt frozen solid (or bedrock). Very sturdy.

Every MSR test ive owned has wetted out / leaked! I do not trust that brand anymore. :( Hilleberg and Fjällräven make the best tents imho!

@mowsertas

Ай бұрын

I haven’t had that trouble but have still moved away from MSR recently. Loving the Slingfin Portal 3 lately. Looking forward to checking out a Fjällräven at some stage!

Too heavy? Used to carry a Tarra up the Scottish mountains, now that was heavy but a palace in the hills. After carrying the tarra, my other tents like the nammatj 2 would feel weightless.

@mowsertas

8 ай бұрын

Wow, carrying a Tarra up the Scottish mountains must have been quite the workout! It's amazing how different tents can feel once you've experienced the weight of a heavier one.

Sounds to me like you are complaining about nothing 🤷🏻‍♂️! Your biggest complaints are about the internal size and weight, yet you had all the specifications in the Hilleberg brochure and you still went ahead and bought the tent fully aware of this,…well that’s your mistake I’m afraid, you can’t really complain about it after the event because you made the wrong decision despite having all the relevant information. If you’re unsure about the internal dimensions of the tent, the best way to assess this is by using a roll of insulating tape and actually taping out the internal dimensions of the tent on your living room floor, then you can physically put down your sleeping mats in this area and make a judgement if the area provided will be big enough for you. Regarding the looseness of the fly sheet around the door area, at he base of the tent there is a webbing tape about 20mm wide from memory that joins the open sides at the door, this can be increased or decreased in length to get the correct tension on the door panel and zip, get this too long and the fly sheet door section will be loose and flap, if it’s too short this will put too much tension on the door zip, at best you won’t be able to close the zip easily, worst case scenario means you could break the zip. Did you try adjusting this webbing for correct tension?? People also get hung up about the weight of a tent and forget that the main consideration is total backpack weight, that’s what you have to carry, not just the tent, I’ve got the Allak 2 and I’m aware that I could easily get a tent at least a kilo lighter, but for me camping solo in this, it’s like a palace 😬 ….some people complain about the weight of Hilleberg tents but seem to forget about the six cans of beer they are also carrying 😂😂 I don’t take anything like that, my priority is in a decent strong tent that won’t let me down. There was actually nothing wrong with your Hilleberg tent ⛺️, just a case of operator error from what I can see 🤷🏻‍♂️?

@mowsertas

7 ай бұрын

Yep, correct. Like i stated in the video - I didn't do my research and should have examined it more before purchase. Still love Hilleberg, just had to move on from this one. Regarding the fly, i did try everything and could not get it right. I should have contacted Hilleberg directly about this. Operator error at its finest. I rushed in and didn't research enough!

Nallo 4 brother

TLDR; Man discovers that 75" > 67" and 8lbs 3oz is a bit heavy

“70 inch across”? Yet you want to fit 3 x 25 inch wide pads? Math much?

@mowsertas

3 ай бұрын

Had 2 x 25 inch pads and a smaller prolite pad (20inch).