Thank you. You just killed my FOMO. Just what I wanted!

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Ok 👍🏻

@landscapesofink

2 ай бұрын

Same hahaha I appreciate this because now I don't need to buy it 🎉😂

@svartling

Ай бұрын

@JVJF7 You are totally wrong Kaleido 3 is the latest. Kobo has not invented something new. So really bad comment

Thanks for this in depth discussion. I recently bought a kobo libra 2 and was worried I jumped the gun, missing a fancy new feature. Now I realize I have the perfect e reader for my personal needs.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yes you definitely have. Color only makes the reading experience worse.

@s-k-i3149

Ай бұрын

Lol yeah dude and now you can’t even buy Libra 2s hahah. So glad I grabbed it last month.

Thank you. Your advice has helped me .... and saved me money.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

You’re welcome. You find more helpful videos on my channel.

Thank you for this informative video! I had no idea, and was excited about the new color announcement. I think the new Clara B&W will be the one I go for, if anything. Thank you again!

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yeah so so

@PawpiChoolo

2 ай бұрын

you look bad asf lowk

I do a lot of activities that tire my eyes: Drawing, coloring, writing, cross-stitching, and of course, a lot of reading. I have been reading e-books as well as physical books for years. I started with Nook, continued with Kobo Aura, now I have Kobo Libra 2. I was excited to hear about color e-readers coming out, but from what you said, they're not good for the eyes. I don't want to tire my eyes any further. Thanks very much for the information 🙏🏻💐

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Well it is still the same e-ink technology that is great for your eyes. The downside with color is basically that they have a darker display panel that is harder to see if you don’t raise the front light quite high. So if you want to use an e-reader for colored content or drawing then go for it. Don’t buy it if you only will use it for B&W content. Then your Libra 2 is one of the best on the market.

Thank you very much for one-to-one comparison with lights out.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

You’re welcome

thank you this helped me decide to stick with my device

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Great. I’m glad I could help

Thank you, this is so important to know!

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

You’re welcome

I love comic books and manga. I do not have a lot of space on my house to buy them. If what is needed is to increase the background light, then is good for me. Thank you for reporting on this issue. It is nice to know before buying

Perfect demonstration. Magazines and geaphic novels are a minority of my reading time so I am happy to view these on my samsung tablet. Same if I need to mark up sheet music. Very happy with my b&w e reader.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yes exactly

Nice video. Exactly the info im looking for right now. Had my kindle for years and years and are planning on getting a new ereader soon. Will wait so see what Kobo reveals on april 10th, maybe older models will drop in price also

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

It seems like they will release a new kobo Clara B&W too but no new Libra B&W what I can see. But the old Libra 2 is still awesome and worth buying.

Thanks for a great comparison. Personally my eyes are pretty backlight sensitive and I don't use ereader lighting in daylight, and always on the lowest setting at night, nor do I crave the "paperwhite" super white background which you don't get in real life paperbacks (only glossy mags etc). But not having colour highlighting or colour menus has always bugged my about my ereaders, don't ask me why ... when 90% is spent reading b&w text it seems crazy. Basically i am more likely to pick one of these colour ereaders up than my trusty old Boyue e reader which stays on the shelf. I will have a look at the Libra Colour in store when it lands just to check its not too dark. Thanks again.

@svartling

Ай бұрын

You’re welcome

thank you so much for this informative video!

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

You’re welcome. You find more on my channel

Sir, thank you so much for your technical analysis on color e-readers, but I wonder if highlighting and adding small notes in different colors is much more pleasant and engaging when reading...Nevertheless, for the reading purpose only, a black and white e-reader is better, and in that regard I agree with your assessment.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yeah if you take a lot of notes then I would recommend a color note taker.

Phew, I was looking at the Clara Colour, but I'm set on the BW one now. Thanks!

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Yes a much better buy. Probably the best e-reader you can buy at the moment.

Very helpful! Thank you!

@svartling

Ай бұрын

I’m glad you liked it

This is good info to know! Thank you for this. I’m definitely going to stay away from the color ereaders.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yes do so. Much worse for normal reading

I have the old Kobo libra H2O for a few years now. It's still great but I was thinking of getting a new one. A kobo libra colour or the onyx boox palma. Your video made not want to get the kobo colour anymore since I use my e-reader purely for reading books. Do you suggest I get the boox palma? Or just stick with old kobo libra H20? 😊

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Stick with the Libra H2O and maybe buy the Boox Palma as a companion reader when you need to go portable. The new kobo Clara B&W is also an alternative. Don’t buy color ereaders if you don’t mainly read color content.

Thanks a lot! I was supposing that. I only read ebooks in epub format, or movi, but i also have a lot of pdfs (user guides, books, etc. I own an Inkpad 4, but is quite small for PDFs, i was looking to something in 9,7-10.3 area. And now with your video, i-m sure i must wait more, because the new Eo or X Pro from Pocketbook aren't good enough for my needs.

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Ok 👍🏻

you make a good point that a lot of other reviewers seem hesitant to state. i'll just stick with b&w

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Yes do so then you get the best display and the best experience when reading books

You just saved me a lot of money 😂

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Good :)

Just ordered a kindle 11th gen but then started to feel like I could have order Kobo Clara Colour because it has a colourful and the price difference isn’t bad. I don’t really read comics much these days and if I do I can do it on my phone, so I don’t really need a Kobo Clara Colour and shouldn’t feel bad either for getting kindle BW. Isn’t it? 😀 Thanks for your video and explanation.

@svartling

Ай бұрын

You definitely don’t need color if you don’t read color content.

@okaygoogle2847

Ай бұрын

@@svartling perfect. Thank you.

I wish Kobo had updated the Libra 2 to a BW model. I do not need colour I need sharp text on a bright background. Thank you for this video.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yeah me too

@sokinecola9361

2 ай бұрын

Same here. I knew new models were coming out but Color version is really not that attractive. I wish they can use Carta 1300 with better contrast

Thank you for the review. I was looking at the new Kobo colours offering. Every one, at least on the early videos, can notice that the colours are doll and washed out. Worse, if that affect the general text reading function which what it was designed for in the first place, it is not worth. I expect a lot of returns after the "wow" factor is passed. IMO, the technology is not yet ready for prime time.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Kaleido 3 is simply not better than this. So I actually don’t like kobos marketing of this. If you read normal text ebooks then don’t buy color e-readers. It’s that simple.

I was waiting for color e readers since ages. They are not quite there yet, but I will buy one anyway. I think I like to support the development of better devices.

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Ok 👍🏻

i actually noticed this in kobo's teaser ads. They had their brightness quite high.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yeah you often need to have 80% brightness

@arm8636

2 ай бұрын

​@@svartlingmy god 80% is way too much . I use 15% on Libra 2 . 80% is painful

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

@arm8636 not painful on a color e-reader :) because it’s still quite dark ;)

@arm8636

Ай бұрын

@@svartling wrong thread blud

@svartling

Ай бұрын

No it was not wrong thread. I banned the user that was spamming. Sorry for that

thanks, saved me from a wrong desicion

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Great. I’m glad to hear that

manga are mostly b&w, and comics need a wider screen than 7inch imo, so I really don't understand who is going to buy the new kobo libra and clara color

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Good point

@Kevincooper220

2 ай бұрын

I like the colored covers of my books...as I've stopped buying physical books So I think it's good for people like us

@jesustenes2

2 ай бұрын

@@Kevincooper220 but the actual reading is worse, that's the problem. If the reading experience was the same then I understand wanting color for the covers, but I don't think the trade-off is worth it

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

@kaamil7725 it’s not worth the worse reading experience with a darker display and also not as sharp only to get color covers.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

@jesustenes2 exactly

Which font is that on the Kobo? It looks similar to Amazon ember which is my fave on a kindle.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Atkinson Hyperlegible

Thanks! Could you give me an advise? I have a kobo glo hd (300 dpi) and I'm interested to buy a new kobo clara colour (300 dpi also in white and black and 150 in colour) But, seeing this video, i'm afraid that dispay is dark without brightness function (at the sun light for example), instead of my kobo that is still perfect. So, talking just for black and white, there is difference between those two models?

@svartling

Ай бұрын

If you only read black and white ebooks then never buy a color ereader. If that’s the case buy the kobo Clara B&W instead. Then your user experience will get excellent with crisp and sharp text and bright as you want. Color e-readers is too dark and only good for Colored content.

@Fabios__

Ай бұрын

@@svartling thank you so much for your explanation. Think that I will remain with my kobo. I thought that white and black still brighter the same and the darkness were just for colour contents. I like comics but I like ebook too 🥲and I was so attracted by new kobo

Ya I get it is less bright, but doesn't seem to be low enough to be a dealbreaker, given the upside is the flexibility to read coloured comics.

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Yeah as I said I meant this only for B&W content. Colored content of course.

Thank you.

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Youre welcome

you r right 😢. I got the Kobo clara color, but I use Kindle paper white 2018 to read B/W comics better than Kobo color...

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Yep. Kaleido 3 is not good enough. Stick with B&W readers until the technology is better

Both display look great in my opinion.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yes they do but one is much darker

@adaml.5355

2 ай бұрын

It is important to consider the Kobo has the next generation color panel compared to the one featured in this video.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

@adaml.5355 No they don’t Kaleido 3 is the latest there is. There is no better color display than that.

@adaml.5355

2 ай бұрын

@@svartling You're right my mistake.

I have a Kobo Libra Colour. I normally use it with about 10% brightness only ( and you need a level of brightness to use night colour, if that's something you like ). I compared it to a black and white kindle e-reader and my Kobo was darker but not as much as expected from reading online... It is darker but really not a huge deal. Sometimes i don't even use brightness if there's enough light in my room. The lower resolution is only if read a coloured book, otherwise it's 300 resolution which is crisp, so you are not really compensating compared to a black and white e-reader.

@svartling

17 сағат бұрын

A black and white book still gets darker and not as clear as on a pure black and white e-reader because it has a color layer above the normal e-ink display. But I'll agree you can love with that

@Azarilh

17 сағат бұрын

@@svartling It looks pretty clear to me, can't discern the individual pixels, and i have good eyesight with glasses. My main monitor is worse. It is darker, but again, just need 10% brightness normally.

so ive noticed the white balance on kaleido is also shifted to a greenish tint. the white is never white

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yes exactly. It’s grayish green. That makes it darker. You will always have to compensate with front light

Does any know...are the page buttons 9n the libra loud? Do they click or use "silent" buttons or perhaps membrane buttons? I read in bed before going to sleep and clicks wouldnt be an option

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

They are quite silent. Not totally silent though.

I only read books on my clara2e so I guess I don't need the fancy clara colour. 😅

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Definitely not. Clara 2E is one of the best e-readers on the market

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

@alisacourtney602 it’s cheaper because it’s not color. Again, if you only read black and white ebooks then you don’t need color. Color will only make the experience worse

Want to read comics and ebooks so colour ereader makes sense.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yes definitely

There's no point in buying a color ebook reader unless you want to read comics in it. I mean, books are just black letters on white paper, and we're not children anymore to be demanding colorful images to go with the text, are we? A friend of mine said she wanted to get one, I asked why, and she said it was because of the book covers! I mean... What?!?

@svartling

22 күн бұрын

Yeah totally agree and that is exactly what I say in this video.

@davidsenra2495

22 күн бұрын

@@svartling Yeah, my comment was made halfway through the video hahah. But good to know we're on the same page.

I'm wondering if you will do an update if you get the new kobos

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Color e-readers is no good if you read normal ebooks. So I won’t buy them. The display is too dark and fuzzy. Never buy color e-readers if you mainly use it for B&W content. See this video about color e-readers for more info. They use the exact same display Kaleido 3.

Yeah I need the contrast of a B&W ereader. So it’s a pass for me. If that Carta 1300 b&w is truly one of the new ones I’ll get that for sure.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yeah much better

@sokinecola9361

2 ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. For ebooks, contrast is the NO 1 consideration. So disappointed

I think I’ll keep my b&w

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yes much better

I just want a kobo product but these new color is just not it for me right now

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Buy the new kobo Clara B&W then. You won’t regret it.

I will buy the Kobo Libra 2 colour ... It's novel and bw is 300 ppi ...

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yeah 300ppi below a color layer of 150ppi that makes it a lot darker and dull to look at. You will have to compensate with around 80% front light to see anything. But if you read colored content then that will be a great device. If not then go for non-color.

@prashanthr1993

2 ай бұрын

@@svartling thank you sir ... If possible could you please do a side by side comparison of Libra 2 and Libra 2 color ... May not be your cup of tea but would love to see it ...

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

I don’t own one but all kaleido 3 displays works the same so it is as dark as I show in this video on the bigme 751c

Color ereaders need the backlight a little bit to compensate the color layers and they work great. Are they as good as the black and white ones? No. But they are almost as good, they have great battery life and the color makes a big difference. I would charge anytime my boox ultra with a color one if I had the money to do it.

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Not just a bit though. Around 80% to be almost good. Outside in direct sunlight it’s even worse.

@Azarilh

17 сағат бұрын

@@svartling That is not my experience at all tho. Maybe you are comparing it to a single unit with colour... I read on my Kobo Libra Colour at 10% brightness and sometimes even at 0%...

Honestly, the only point to a color screen for me would be the covers of the books on my library. I've never seen color words in any books I've read. I'll stick with my black an white. I too like 300 dpi. I have the tablet if I want to see color book covers

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yes exactly and a darker screen is not worth having color covers

@Azarilh

17 сағат бұрын

The Kobo has 300 when reading black and white content, and switches to 150 when reading coloured content.

If I wanted a color ebook reader that had access to DC Universe (Android app) comic books, which would you recommend? It seems Kobo doesn't even really sell comics so that seems kind of silly lol

@svartling

Ай бұрын

An onyx Boox. They run android and has Google play store. They have from 6-inch and up so just pick and choose size and color. Bigme too as I show in this video.

First of all, you said the PPI of Kaleido 3 is 150, and for black and white readers it's 300. That is not entirely correct. PPI of Kaleido 3 is 150, AND underneath it is also 300 PPI layer screen for black and white. The reason why it's not reaching the same brightness levels with a normal bw reader is the reason you've already explained, the screen is two layered. Secondly, your Bigme Max Color is not even Kaleido 3, it's Kaleido Plus which is 117PPI for its color and 227 for BW which partly explains its underwhelming brightness level. The fair comparison for the upcoming Kobo color readers is the Pocketbook Inkpad Color 3 which is using the same Kaleido 3 technology, and I would say Inkpad Color 3 is pretty impressive ebook reader for its versatility and readability. I would also argue that if the Libra 2 is already bright enough without using frontlight, then what do you even need the frontlight for? Kaleido 3 with 30% frontlight brightness is enough for me to enjoy reading comparable to bw. I own Kobo Touch which doesn't even have frontlight, and the only time I can't read it is at night when the lights are off. In Kobo color I can still read in pitch dark because there is a front light! The only clear downside is if you're going to read indoors with poor lighting, which means you're going to keep the frontlight on mostly, in other words it consumes more battery. However since Kobo Libra color's battery is bigger than the Kobo bw, I would assume the battery performance would be more or less the same. And you've not even talked yet about the improved speed performance of Kaleido 3 over Carta 1200, it is faster and more responsive. I would only consider a bw if they released a Carta 1300 in the form factor of the Libra, but they only have it available in the size of a Clara. It's basically the same with only improved speed performance and better contrast, but reading pdfs and magazines would not be a good experience. The real improvement here is ultimately the color, Kaleido 3 is the best eink technology out of the market and paired that with Kobo which I personally think has the best software interface, with a price of about 260 CAD is a great deal. How much is Inkpad color 3? About 460 CAD. 💯

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

It's a bigme 751c with kaleido 3 display and color is not worth it if you only read b&w ebooks. It's that simple.

@brownwallet942

2 ай бұрын

@@svartling Not my fault. You were calling it max in your video

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

No I didn’t. Maybe you heard it like that. I have never had such a device and didn’t even know it existed. Sorry if you heard it wrong

Truth

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Yep

The only gripe I really have with the video is the pretty conclusive thumbnail. “Don’t buy color e-readers” really doesn’t look good. We bought one for a few reasons, of which one would be to put D&D books on it (and colour is really rather nice to have in such cases).

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Yeah if you mainly use it for colored content then go for it

I will wait buying a colors e-reader until the tech become better

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Yes that is the right thing to do

I like my background darker 🤷🏼‍♀️

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Ok but then just turn down the front light on a B&W e-reader instead and save a lot of battery life.

@Azarilh

17 сағат бұрын

@@svartling Why does the battery life even matter when you charge it after a month if not months? I would be happy if it was a week!

Problem is there is no new BW version of Libra 2. So the new Libra is still the only option for that ergonomic format. And bigger battery.

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

Ergonomic is an opinion though. Personally I think readers without physical buttons are more ergonomic. But you are right that there is no need Libra B&W yet and that is because carta 1300 is too expensive for 7-inch at the moment.

@MrJustCallMeJames

2 ай бұрын

@@svartling I think that the Libra 2 has amazing ergonomics, and feels great in hand. So pretty much hoping that next weeks, prove that the dimmer display is not that much of an issue. Have you gotten to see the device itself yet? Is the dimmer display issue as bad on the new Libra?

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

@MrJustCallMeJames all kaleido 3 devices are very dim, dark and bad contrast. The technology is simply not better.

I want to use an ereader to read and study university essays. I want to highlight and make notes. I have been gifted Kobo Clara 2E but I’ve still not opened it. I’d like to know which models have the features for my needs. Does the Libra color fits on me? Or should I change to another model?

@judit1303

Ай бұрын

I also want to know if I can highlight to pdf format

@svartling

Ай бұрын

If highlighting in different color is more important than a crisp and clear display then go for the Libra color. Clara 2E or Clara color doesn’t support that. I don’t know if you can do that on pdfs though. Sorry.

@Azarilh

17 сағат бұрын

The Libra is prolly better for that so you can make note files too. I am fairly sure the Clara doesn't have note files.

Just wanted to echo everyone else's thanks, saved me $200, keeping my e-readers bw

@svartling

Ай бұрын

Great please like video as a thank you

@matthewmcneill5320

Ай бұрын

@@svartling done! 😄 thanks again! Love the channel, new subscriber

@svartling

Ай бұрын

@matthewmcneill5320 great 👍🏻

00:00 🔍 Video discusses differences between color and black-and-white eBook readers. 01:10 📘 Color eBook readers best for comics and manga due to vibrant display. 03:12 🔆 Color eBook readers require constant light due to darker displays. 07:43 🖥 Consider color eBook readers if using for web browsing, news, or emails. 10:00 📚 Colored cover pages on eBooks is a feature of color eBook readers. 12:00 📈 Black-and-white eBook readers have higher DPI, providing sharper display for text.

@svartling

29 күн бұрын

Thanks for the index :)

An ebook reader doesn't make sense for looking at mangas or BD with its poor colouring and performance. You are better of getting a cheap Android tablet with millions of colours and its huge versatility. There are also great apps for reading books too. The new e-readers are trying to become something that is not needed for its basic purpose.

@ricarmig

Ай бұрын

It is a “it depends”: - type A: you mostly read mangas/BD/magazines and surf the web. You’re better off using an lcd tablet - type B: you only read books. You’re better off with a black and white ereader. - type C: you read everything. You’re better off with a color ereader. Reading books with an LCD or OLED display is very hard on the eyes and I totally advise against. I also advise buying an 7,8” or bigger screen, smaller is way too small. That is not to say that the tech behind these color ereaders has to improve massively in contrast and color richness. Nevertheless I use my black and white Boox Ultra screen even with KZread and it is usable!!! That didn’t happen some years ago. I imagine that in 4/5 years this tech will be useful for most people. The price is though too high

@armagedon515

Ай бұрын

@@ricarmig Agree A, B but C not so much. Modern LCD tablets all have "eyes protection" setting (blue light reduction) and auto-brightness control. A myriad of reading apps where you can change the text background colour or texture that you can't do on e-reader. LCD tablets are way quicker too. Frankly, colour content materials looks so primitive on the new e-readers. If I had the choice to bring only one tablet on a trip, my Android tablet (9 inches) with its versatility will be the one. That said, IMO, I'll give it a few months before we see a new e-book colour technology as buyers will not be satisfied with the present version. I read some people have already return the new colour Kobos.

@ricarmig

Ай бұрын

@@armagedon515 modern screens have “blue light reduction” which is really nothing but changing the colors a bit. You should wear glasses with that protection and emissive screens (lcd and OLED) are always harder for the eye than eink. Also the refresh rate may be an issue for some sensitive people.

@armagedon515

Ай бұрын

@@ricarmig What are you talking about. This is about tablets not computer monitors right ? The blue light, which is the most damaging, is drastically reduce as the screen become almost yellow on my Lenovo M9, funny much like the yellow "comfort" light on my Kobo. Like I/you said, BW books are better read on e-reader.

@ricarmig

Ай бұрын

@@armagedon515 I know what I’m talking about and the color of the image is only a small part of the blue light emission. The technology behind it is also important. You are confusing “night mode” (warmer colors to not disturb as much the sleep hours) with blue light emission (which is slightly reduced with warmer colors)

The content is OK, but you repeat yourself a lot, you could have said this is in maybe a third of the time of this video. You could have also showed some example of the cover pages in colour, and of some manga in b&w versus colour.

The worst review. Why didint you check visual novels?

@svartling

2 ай бұрын

It’s not a review. It’s about if you only read normal black and white ebooks, then don’t buy color ebook readers. Simple. Maybe you didn’t understand that? The review of the bigme you find on my channel.