His prize from the friends of Israel for wrecking the ceasefire vote.

@gothicgolem2947

13 күн бұрын

The tories wrecked that not him

@toggerz7487

13 күн бұрын

You obviously haven't read the Labour amendment, because it clearly calls for a ceasefire, and does so more emphatically than the SNP motion, going even further to impress the importance of Palestinian statehood. Here is the full wording of the Labour amendment: "That this House believes that an Israeli ground offensive in Rafah risks catastrophic humanitarian consequences and therefore must not take place; notes the intolerable loss of Palestinian life, the majority being women and children; condemns the terrorism of Hamas who continue to hold hostages; supports Australia, Canada and New Zealand’s calls for Hamas to release and return all hostages and for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, which means an immediate stop to the fighting and a ceasefire that lasts and is observed by all sides, noting that Israel cannot be expected to cease fighting if Hamas continues with violence and that Israelis have the right to the assurance that the horror of 7th October cannot happen again; therefore supports diplomatic mediation efforts to achieve a lasting ceasefire; demands that rapid and unimpeded humanitarian relief is provided in Gaza; demands an end to settlement expansion and violence; urges Israel to comply with the International Court of Justice’s provisional measures; calls for the UN Security Council to be meet urgently; and urges all international partners to work together to establish a diplomatic process to deliver the peace of a two-state solution, with a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable Palestinian state, including working with international partners to recognise a Palestinian state as a contribution to rather than outcome of that process, because statehood is the inalienable right of the Palestinian people and not in the gift of any neighbour."

The Speaker's seat isn't contested at a general election. The poor sods were lumbered with him.

Sir Keir saved him and now Sir Keir has his own personal Speaker.

@luminousfractal420

13 күн бұрын

nah rishi made a point of "working together" nudge nudge wink wink "with the speaker". his pet.

What a fucking circus.

@AkbarKamall

13 күн бұрын

Guy Fawkes was unto something mate. The entire thing needs to go. Absolute circus.

@gothicgolem2947

13 күн бұрын

How?

@ArtyFactual_Intelligence

12 күн бұрын

You should try Moscow.

@areascoda2912

3 күн бұрын

this is nothing lol. come to india haha and see how parliament behaves

He ignored Diane Abbot not long ago when she stood up over 40 times .

@nathanielregan289

13 күн бұрын

The people who get to ask questions petition before hand and are put on a programme list only seen by the speaker and office. If their is extra time or a particular importance they will accept more questions for MP on the Pogo. The only people during pmqs who always have question slots are 3 biggest opposition party leaders

@MnemonicNex

13 күн бұрын

@@nathanielregan289 I will just add that, in that particular Prime Ministers questions they were speaking about Dianne Abbot. So it did seem a bit rude to not acknowledge her at the time.

@nathanielregan289

13 күн бұрын

@MnemonicNex guess your right in that situation. Lisey hoyle has acted before for the benefit of the labour party whilst speaker e.g considering the labour proposement on Gaza on a SNP oposstion day before the SNP's. Diane abbot is pretty much apposed to labour leadership as seen with how quickly she condemned labour with the miscommunication of her deselected.

@rodden1953

13 күн бұрын

@@MnemonicNex Thanks i couldnt remember what is was about , But i knew he should have called her.

@revol148

13 күн бұрын

@rodden1953 Abbot deserves to be ignored - a token black women in a seat so safe if she died and was stuffed the Hackney electorate would still vote for her !

His dad started labour friends of Israel. Explains alot

@dondoodat

13 күн бұрын

@@lime187 Israel needs friends because friends can stop you doing silly things. Don't confuse Israel with Likud.

@FreakishlyTrue

13 күн бұрын

​@@dondoodatNope! Friends is just a undercover word so they can get up to all kinds of illegal biddings with one another.

@dondoodat

13 күн бұрын

@@FreakishlyTrue Oh, it's all a conspiracy ? Understood ! Ah, I see from other comments of yours that you're extremely antisemitic. You can't blame a whole race for the behaviour of one party of government in a foreign country.

We need Guy Fawkes to return !

Now we see what Kier told him after the debacle with thr SNP.

@TheBenj30

13 күн бұрын

What? That he wouldn't stand against a long standing convention of not opposing the re-election of the speaker of the house?

He served parliament for a long time, so can he just retire and enjoy that early cup of tea in his house?

If Hoyle is the answer, you're asking the wrong question

Its so good to see the Tories sitting on that side of the house. Long may it last.

@fullovstars9447

13 күн бұрын

Huh? Tories on both sides of the house the way the Establishment likes it. Toffs rule and plebs die in gutters waiting for operations or housing 😞

@MixedUpSignals

13 күн бұрын

@@fullovstars9447 Just stay in debt and worried how you are going to keep a roof over your head the way they like it.

@drxym

12 күн бұрын

It'll last until Labour get drunk with power and suffer the same issues that most parties do when they're in power too long - leadership succession battles, corruption, scandals, recessions, wars etc.

And the people of Chorley are left without representation for the 5th general election in a row, perhaps we should be able to vote for a speaker directly, one who doesn't have a duty to a constituency.

@Flame1500

13 күн бұрын

I agree, How is this fair that almost 100,000 people are left without representation? Sad

@Yossarian_Lives73

13 күн бұрын

But it’s the mother of all parliaments etc etc

@joeohara3447

13 күн бұрын

He's not been speaker for 5 elections

@Flame1500

13 күн бұрын

@@joeohara3447 He’s been deputy speaker for a long time before his stint as speaker, which is still an MP’s role i believe

@danbuck11

13 күн бұрын

@@joeohara3447 he was deputy speaker for bercow so he's had to be impartial for the whole time

Looks like that Gaza vote escapade paid off for him then. Pity he cant be dragged out of the chair as well.

@biornr.4031

13 күн бұрын

Yup. Absolutely disgraceful

@paulmarshall4793

13 күн бұрын

Bro, he's still young 😉

@gothicgolem2947

13 күн бұрын

@@biornr.4031how is it disgraceful?

@gothicgolem2947

13 күн бұрын

Eh idk about that may have got in regardless

@paulmarshall4793

13 күн бұрын

@@gothicgolem2947 he engineered the order of the bills so the SNP couldn't hold their motion because they knew that labour MPs would vote for it against the whip. It means he's not fit for the position

Are we seriously all going to forget the utter contemptible way he treated Diane Abbott?

@gothicgolem2947

13 күн бұрын

He did not ask her at one pmq because he ran out of time. He should have I think but it was only one time

@UPGHD

13 күн бұрын

I'm glad he did. Nobody likes that woman.

@NaomiOjok

13 күн бұрын

​@@gothicgolem2947that specific PMQs centred on a racist Tory party donor's comments about her and all black women, and despite everyone talking about it she was not allowed to speak on the matter herself. It screams "we're talking about you not to you" and it stinks

@Si_digs

12 күн бұрын

😂😂

@drxym

12 күн бұрын

Look up the rules for PMQs. Basically the people guaranteed time to ask questions (in the limited 2x15 minute sessions) are the leader of the opposition and the 2nd largest opposition party. So in the previous parliament that would have been Labour & SNP leaders, this time it will be Conservative and Liberal leaders. Beyond that it's potluck and largely depends on time. And aside from that, if she hadn't had the Labour whip withdrawn for saying some pretty indefensible things, maybe she could have had Starmer name drop her to "catch the eye" of the speaker for her own follow-up. As it was that wasn't going to happen so she took her chances like every other backbencher. And then whined about it when it didn't happen.

The only thing he's interested in is getting into the house next door, another waste of space.

What a nonsense with Hoyle returned as Speaker I despair

@ArtyFactual_Intelligence

12 күн бұрын

Give up m8. Emigrate to the Isle o Wight.

Ridiculous so embarrassing grown adults absolutely sick of the lot of them

Right Honourable Chocolate Teapot is back...

Oh my god not again..🙄🤦🏾‍♀️ Stop the world I wanna get off😆🤣

Should of been dragged back when he avoided talking about the Gaza vote.

Is Sir Lindsey Hoyle really the best that the Commons can do for Speaker? He was terrible in the last Parliament.

@MikKanabar

13 күн бұрын

He'll probably overrepresent Farage to appease the right.

@jazztec4255

13 күн бұрын

@@markhayward7400 he's not really supposed to do anything other then say shut up.

@shmubob

13 күн бұрын

He was terrible? How so?

@RichGwilliam

13 күн бұрын

@@jazztec4255 He tried to do something other than say shut up, and the SNP tried to string him up for it.

@moretimeneeded56

13 күн бұрын

No he is not. Possibly Starmer returning the favour Hoyle did for Labour regarding ceasefire debate.

Should have lost his job ages ago

@dougaldouglas8842

13 күн бұрын

The lot of them should, laughing whilst the country sinks by their hands

Lindsay hoyle is a joke...he has helped to make the wstmonster a pantomime...

@matthewlvk7366

13 күн бұрын

and made you lost your mind that you've forgotten how to write in your native language

@ParasocialCatgirl

13 күн бұрын

Westminster has always been a bit of a panto

@djmartin5240

13 күн бұрын

@@matthewlvk7366 wastemonster would be more a fitting. Do you not agree.???

Hoyle annoys me so much. He makes me cringe ever time he opens his mouth and spouts out his awkward crap. For a 'speaker', he has next to no oratory skills.

Oh fundamental, I thought he said "fucking mental" lol

This is NOT right. This man should never be considered to be speaker again.

Just Stop Hoyle !

@alanpage3973

13 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@daveogfans413

13 күн бұрын

ok that was hilarious

@keithparker1346

13 күн бұрын

Wow we agree on something. And that was quite funny

Complete pantomime.

Embarrassing these people in charge

Noooooo, he was totally useless last time

Bercow was better just because he was great at being impartial and he held the Tories to account despite being on before. He seems to lean on the side of labour now which really say it all.

@elftax

13 күн бұрын

Bercow is Center-Right which is the politics of Starmers Labour.

@patbaker2199

13 күн бұрын

I'm probably wrong, but I thought it wasn't their job to hold MPs to account. Isn't that responsibility only for the MPs? Or am I way off? I like Bercow, but he didn't seem to be very impartial.

@Munkenba

13 күн бұрын

@@patbaker2199 The Tories made an enemy of him multiple times by trying to oust him when Cameron was in charge and then trying to subvert the role of the commons throughout the Brexit process. The civil service are also impartial, but the Tories struggled to make any effective use of them after Truss & co started to make a public enemy of them. Being "impartial" is a pleasant ideal in theory, but it's pretty hard to stick to when the people you're supposed to be impartial to are confidently and publicly spitting in your lunch.

@MixedUpSignals

13 күн бұрын

@@thomasandrewclifford Bercow was an attention seeking arse.

@jetfirexx

13 күн бұрын

Bercow was a very controversial speaker because he gave a lot more deference to the backbenchers than previous speakers. When the Brexiteers were trying to get a referendum he enabled them to get a lot of parliamentary time. After the referendum, he did the same for the remain benches. That's not impartiality, it's being partial to backbenchers over the government. Hoyle was chosen because his views about the speakership were more in line with previous convention.

Honestly look at em all just sat there having a chuckle while country goes to shit… bloody shameful. Here an idea… less fucking talking more fucking doing!!

he had blood on his hands for what he did with the opposition day to SNP

He s a creep

They missed a golden opportunity here, they should have had S. Flynne or D.Abbot !!!.

Getting his payoff for bailing Starmer out with the SNP and the Gaza Vote.

Rewarded for conspiring with Starmer to scupper the SNP Gaza ceasefire vote and ignore Diane Abbott

Pure pantomime no wonder nothing gets done. It's parliament that needs reformed.

This is unacceptable! Britain deserves better! Not Hoyle. I am utterly disgusted in this pathetic decision...

Noooooo, he was totally useless last time.

@Vainglory14

13 күн бұрын

It could have been worse, he could have been effective.

what an embarrassing load of onanistic nonsense

@robk6635

13 күн бұрын

Well I certainly regret googling that word

@daveradiators8746

13 күн бұрын

yes and no...on the one hand there is something a little bit alienating about it but on the other hand it's a bit of fun - it's probably not possible to stick a camera in a room full of politicians and there not be something intrinsically weird about it - see it for what it is - it's an imperfect institution - look for a way for it to work for you...

@barrymcmanmon9595

13 күн бұрын

Unkind.

@MPA551

13 күн бұрын

I ain't googling what onanistic means.

@gothicgolem2947

13 күн бұрын

Hows it embarrassing or nonsense its a cool tradition

Useless Speaker. Should have lost his job ages ago.

Useless.

@guydavies3035

13 күн бұрын

And spineless

Wtf is this pantomime. Just sit in the chair and get on with it.

@matts2496

13 күн бұрын

Absolutely agree with you. Commons traditions need scrapping and Westminster needs turning into a museum. All needs modernising

@alanbeattie1470

13 күн бұрын

@@matts2496 Do any of The Whinners actually bother to vote? If not, be quiet. If yes, put up with the process...

@matts2496

13 күн бұрын

@@alanbeattie1470 Indeed I do vote Alan. Say, the next time you don’t agree with a system, keep to your own word and be quiet.

@FibroFantastic

13 күн бұрын

@alanbeattie1470 if you don't vote, you don't have a right to complain, so stfu

What an utterly ridiculous tradition!

Yes getting threatened with going for an early cup of Tea , must strike fear into all the MPs .

This is the first Labour mistake!!! The country despises his weakness as the Speaker of the House !!! Don't make any more mistakes so early on!!!

what a backward step....is this his reward for snubbing the SNP ?

Fucking really??

The muppet show we are finished as a nation .

Outdated and out of touch. They sit in that palace chuckling while the rest of us suffer

Once again the people of Chorley get no voice in Parliament

@gameloser2893

13 күн бұрын

They voted for it

@dog-jk2hn

13 күн бұрын

​@@gameloser2893No, they didn't. Not really. When the speaker is running, other major candidates don't run, so the speaker wins every time.

@FabianMacGintyONeill

13 күн бұрын

It's such a stupid system

@gameloser2893

13 күн бұрын

@@dog-jk2hn yeah because independent candidates have never gotten into parliament before

@drxym

12 күн бұрын

Yeah those 75% who voted for him clearly think he's not representing them. I'm sure a cursory glance at house rules would indicate how a speaker could raise issues affecting his area without conflicting with his role as speaker. I'm also certain that he is more attentive to his constituents than a lot of other MPs unburdened by high office.

It's still a circus 🎪

Do these people live in 1400's

He’s universally called into question by both sides, so I suppose he’s effective as a speaker by default.

Looks like he got his reward for airding labour in February then

Absolute hilarious that the country is in the fucking toilet and they’re enjoying the absolute pantomime that the House of Commons is.

what we see as "bad" about him is also specifically why he got the job. british democracy is a joke

Get rid of him.

@josephinebrevig8748

13 күн бұрын

Hear hear

@hughshepherd6596

13 күн бұрын

@@josephinebrevig8748 Be careful, light years better than madman Berco, who remains venomous, the hallmark of an incompetent.

@josephinebrevig8748

13 күн бұрын

@@hughshepherd6596 what’s that got to do with the price of eggs? This one needs replacing…he’s a joke.

@user-ru7lw2xh1k

13 күн бұрын

"The Gravy Train is leaving Platform 1".

@odinallfarther6038

13 күн бұрын

@@hughshepherd6596he s not a scratch on berco I had the lowest expectations of berco he did well and for a Tory he was exceptional ,Hoyle on the other and is a dishonourable wimp .

Nope. Sorry. Bring back Bercow.

@MrAlistairheath

13 күн бұрын

OOOOOORRDDDAAAAAAA!!

@shmubob

13 күн бұрын

That bully?

@daveogfans413

13 күн бұрын

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

@kingsarmstunes

13 күн бұрын

@@shmubob that political lexicon and groundbreaking parliamentary giant who's political journey became so offensive to the party he outgrew in character that, it seems, bully is the name by which some people who still believe tories like to use. Give me a man who understands the parliamentary fundamentals who tells you with every sylible He's a fair and just person wrapped in pint sized oratory magnificence. Than a wet, weak, and underwhelming whippet anyday.

@nickjones9867

13 күн бұрын

@@shmubob That's right whiners for you - happy to punch down at all times, but if anyone gives them a hard time then they have a little cry.

His biases leaning towards the Labour Party is no big secret. Look at what he did to the SNP on the Gaza vote. Schandless. It's all about whose back can I scratch to scratch mine later politicsics. Even with the speaker. Corrupt and Bias. Two words that describe Lindsay Hoyle.

Ugh Postman Pat again. He was absolutely awful in the last parliament.

Why anyone think they have right to serve in parliament over 30 or 40 years. Living up with public funds doing very little. They are simply denying the opportunities for the capable young people.

This man is a bloody disgrace his behaviour during the ceasefire in gaza debacle he belongs in the hage not in parliament shame on them all

Looks like that threat/bribe worked then 🙄

Are they his carers dragging him up there?

He looks like Postman Pat! and talks like him as well

I assisted Lindsay Hoyle with his 2017 election when he was then deputy speaker. Certainly representation is an issue, I've found him chirpy and passionate about local issues and Labour policies. Alhough my Dad thinks he has too much of an ego, when he helped an independent candidate in the 2019 election. Many of our political quirks are hundreds of years old, it's good to keep some traditions, but some things need updating. It's also good to see Cat Smith finally on government benches, Kier needs bring in more of the left leaning MP's and reunite the party. I know Cat from my very first year at Lancaster university, through the universities very active Labour club.

I bet Lindsay does a mean Michael Caine impression

The speaker is a shame on your house and it's history

Its some bullsht

Instead of all the bowing and recognition of power and grovelling to the king and such. How about you thank those that voted for you and reinforce, you are a public servant and the number one priority is to serve us, the common people. Starmer's speech hit completely differently to this establishment pandering.

Why on earth would they want him to be speaker again he was awful during the last parliament maybe he can pull his socks up this time

That was one change they missed. He should not have back.

Sir Linseed oil , ok to rub on wood I suppose

Why oh why???? What a joke 🤦‍♀️

weak man. no wonder rishi made a point of leaning on him in his speach. get him back out. wrong decision.

Dragged to the chair,mother of thehouse,father of the house,please do me a favour .These gits live in another universe.

Edward Leigh is a total gammon.

Bring back Bercow!

I would love to see the speaker wearing the wig again it’s been so long . Let’s see the speaker wear the wig.

Complicit and enabling tory that's going to be he's legacy.

Look at the s hit heads laughing whilst the country sinks under the weight of the parliament of our nation

Pathetic.

HE'S WORKING FOR THE LABOUR GOVERNMENT

Crooks

Unless of course it's the SNP and then he's loyal to a foreign government above our own people.

WERE DONE FOR..LOOK WHAT HAPPING IN FRANCE 😡 WAR ZONE!

That another one of those Commons traditions is it?

@ParasocialCatgirl

13 күн бұрын

Correct.

Hopefully Sir Lindsay will be more forthcoming this parliament, as he was too much on the Tory side last time, more independent this time I hope.

What do you think Feris is going to do? Well, shake it up, baby now, twist and shout Come on, come on, come, come on, baby, now (come on baby) Come on and work it on out (work it on out)

Soon to be sending Farage for an early cuppa.

Dragging to the chair, what century are we in?

WTF is that old Tory doing as speaker Labour should have got rid of him

It might be a bit unfair, however, the fact that he has been praised by Nigel Farage takes away his grace

Why is his left hand back to front? 🤔

Total berk-out

He was ONLY ASKED if he wants to carry on being the speaker.any prevarication by mps and lesley will tell them to shut up. Oh the madness of h.o.c.!!

With Hoyle the people of Chorley can not vote for any of the major parties so they can not have a say in whos going to run the country😢

Well spoken by all! Sadly, here in Australia we don't have this type of independent Speaker and we should!

@verandisoldusty6834

13 күн бұрын

What? A chocolate teapot? He did F all to bring or keep any order to the Tory rabble when they desperately needed bringing to heel.