I loved this video very much. Not tooo long at all ❤

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

Thank you!Its just longer than my other videos of you want to watch more game of thrones videos I have a playlist you could check out.

Rhaegar Targaryen The man abandoned his wife and children. For a young woman, Rheagar dishonored Elia

@11bluekitkats

7 ай бұрын

He would’ve eventually returned back to the capital for his family. All we here about him is how he was caring and kind etc he just needed a 3rd child he thought this 3rd child would complete a prophecy that would change the world. He and Elia also likely agreed that it was ok for him to pursue Lyanna because she couldn’t bare a 3rd child.

@grayvanderslice4046

5 ай бұрын

Elia and him talk about 3 heads of the dragon

@user-og1xf9jt5v

4 ай бұрын

he also ruined Lyanna's life he got her pregnant if they won the rebellion people would've call Lyanna Rhaegar's mistress and their child would been bastard. Lyanna was teenager but Rhaegar grown man

Personally what i find to be the biggest red herring about rhaegar is also perhaps the most minor detail about him. He is the one whom knighted the mountain. It is entirely possible that that means nothing. However, what i wonder is why George had it be Rhaegar whom did that? Why not Tywin whom is the mountain's liege lord and makes a lot of use out of his brutality? It is also possible Rhaegar did not really know whom the mountain is. However, considering he lived at the red keep where nothing is a secret and probably knew varys whom knows everything, I find it hard to believe he would not at the least have information on what the mountain did to sandor as a child.

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

I think George added that detail for more irony.I do wonder the circumstances of his knighting it was much before most of the bad stuff he did besides what he did to Sandor.I doubt Rhaegar would’ve known about that.

@NiKiMa023

6 ай бұрын

I think the ‘official’ story was that Sandors bed caught fire. So maybe Rhaegar didn’t know. Having the Prince knight him makes what happened later all the more heartbreaking

@11bluekitkats

6 ай бұрын

@@NiKiMa023 so true. Gregor wouldn’t have had too much of a bad reputation by then most likely.

@charlottewalnut3118

Ай бұрын

@@NiKiMa023you mean funny

@NiKiMa023

Ай бұрын

@@charlottewalnut3118 I definitely meant heartbreaking

Roberts rebellion was not built on a lie in a feudal context a 16 year old is not allowed to run off wherever they please, burning one of your lord parents alive after they demand trial by combat that you grant is insanely tyrannically, and Robert + Ned were perfectly in the right to rebel after the throne called for their hands on almost nothing

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

If little finger didn’t lie Brandon wouldn’t have went to kingslanding to yell for Rhaegar to “Come out and die.”And if he did then he would’ve been less angered.If Brandon isn’t arrested his father doesn’t have to come down to answer doc his sons crimes and he and his father live.So he wouldn’t call for the heads of Ned and Robert.The war could happen it just wouldn’t happen so quickly.

@realdaggerman105

9 ай бұрын

@@11bluekitkats Idk man. A married prince with two children running off with a Lord Paramount’s daughter without warning is a grievous breach of the feudal contract. Lyanna was going to secure Baratheon-Stark relations for at least a couple generations if it hadn’t happened. Whether morally that’s right doesn’t really matter. The Stark’s were in the right to storm down to Kings Landing furious.

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

@@realdaggerman105 it was still bad but not nearly as bad as they thought.But rushing to kingslanding to calm for Rhaegars head was not a smart move by Brandon.If he even asked other people at the in or thought more the war could’ve been prevented.Rhaegar should’ve told somebody but who would he have told?Many people made mistakes that led to the rebellion not just Rhaegar.

@realdaggerman105

9 ай бұрын

@@11bluekitkats That’s true, but this very real breach of the feudal contract is not a lie, and it is the basis for the rest of the events to follow. That was my point, sorry for not being super clear on that!

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

@@realdaggerman105 no doubt on that agreed my friend thank you for commenting!

Many times deciding the age of adulthood is a concept of society. Considering a 16 or 17 year old a child is a very recent concept.

@coryb8432

6 ай бұрын

Easy there jeff

@reality1009

5 ай бұрын

@@coryb8432He’s right tho lol

What i find hypocritical is fans calling daemon a groomer for chatting up a 14 year old girl and doing nothing until over a decade after that, but rhaegar and lyanna were in love despite the latter being 15 years old when the former eloped with and impregnated her.

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

Daemon married a 15 year old I believe and the first time he and Rhaenyra got touchy she was a teen.He’s also older than Rhaegar.Both are bad situations but Daemons is worse.Thank you for commenting.

@thalmoragent9344

7 ай бұрын

​@@11bluekitkats Very true. Rhaegar sucks but Daemon is still worst

@badyoutuber1986

6 ай бұрын

Deamon is famously known for not Being a good person that's why we liked him

@grayvanderslice4046

5 ай бұрын

In world of fire and ice yes in real world no in the past yes

@majeedmamah7457

3 ай бұрын

People criticize Rhaegar all the time, where have you been?

Definitely speaking my language. I find it endlessly interesting looking at the similarities between Rhaegar & Jon.

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

That’s what I’m saying they are like each other but with different backgrounds.Thank you for commenting!

@nekoppachi

9 ай бұрын

@@11bluekitkats I’ve always thought Jon was a physical product of Lyanna with his strong Stark features, but he inherited Rhaegar’s melancholy personality. Being raised with the Stark stoicism & being a bastard certainly would’ve caused him to double down on being broody.

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

@@nekoppachi agreed physically he looks Stark no doubt that’s why at first I had a hard time believing he was Rhaegars son.But I feel like naturally his personality was similar to Rhaegar.

I think Rhaegar, had he lived to be King, would’ve probably been a decent king. Maybe no Jaeherys I, but Rhaegar’s eccentricities would not have interfered with the duties of being a king nearly as bad as Aerys’ eccentricities did for his reign, and that would make him seem amazing by comparison. With a competent hand like Tywin to reign him in a bit, the Kingdom would likely find him pretty tame by the standards of his relatives up until the rumors of white walkers start hitting his ears and getting his prophecy brain rolling into overdrive. He’d have definitely left the kingdoms in a more-ready position to deal with the threat of the others by the time his oldest son came of age.

@11bluekitkats

7 ай бұрын

After he either made amends with Robert or got rid of him (most likely get rid of him) he wouldn’t have any enemy’s in the realm and the realm would be strong and unified. I also think he would be very just as well.

Here's a simple answer NO he wasn't he left his family to die for a 14 year old girl.

@11bluekitkats

7 ай бұрын

He didn’t really leave his family to die they were fairly safe of dragon stone then he couldn’t move them away from kingslanding.He thought he would win the battle so he didn’t fear for there safety.It was a messed up relationship but it’s normal in GOT.

Nah man, Rhaegar ain't it. Sure he was cool at first and all, a chill guy overall, I won't deny that. However, much like his father Aerys II, he started off promising only to devolve into... well, ridiculousness. Cost the Dynasty almost everything.

@11bluekitkats

7 ай бұрын

But with Rhaegar it wasn’t merely his own actions that ruined their house. A big part of what screwed him over was little fingers lie that he kidnapped Lyanna. Of Little Finger either told the truth or didn’t say anything I don’t think the war would’ve started so quickly or maybe at all.

The essay is pretty good but you're narrating it like you're using the Google Translate voice, putting a pause after every word like. Aerys. Also. Thought that. Rhaegar. Wanted to overthrow him.

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the input and thank you for commenting!The reason there is pauses in the vid is because of editing.If there’s background noises or I take a breath or I say a word quietly or mispronounce it then I need to edit the audio so it sounds which causes the pausing sound.That’s the explanation I could try to do some things to fix it of course.

@ummm.what.

9 ай бұрын

Instead of editing out the single word that doesn't work, maybe try to redo the whole sentence instead of just the single word? I've never made a video before, so its just a thought that might make it less choppy sounding.

@cherylbaxter8986

9 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

I usually do redo the sentence but still you have to edit the audio and it can be heard.I could do better editing than I did on this video it was a little sloppy because of how long it is.

Rhaeger was like; I had a dream

Great video. Rhaegar fascinates me.

@11bluekitkats

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Agreed he’s gotta be one of my favorite characters in the whole franchise!

Rhaegar Targaryen they can never make me like you.

@11bluekitkats

2 ай бұрын

You can never make me hate him!

Apart from disappearing with Neds sister he was Awesome

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

Lmaooo

In all of the Seven Kingdoms was only one Legal Wife. A legal wife is different from a mistress. Added towards mistress different from region to region. In Dorne and the Iron Islands, it is expected and tolerated. The mistress is always of the Lesser rate of a wife. One wife to carry the name of your children anything born of a mistress is a bastard.

@11bluekitkats

3 ай бұрын

True, thank you for commenting my friend!

12:48 bruh that’s Devin Oliver from I See Stars

@11bluekitkats

8 ай бұрын

I don’t know who that is.But I guess somebody used a picture of him to make Rhaegar fan art.

Rhaegar can't be evil because evil requires intent and Rhaegar is clearly insane.

@11bluekitkats

5 ай бұрын

I don’t know about insane that’s a strong word 😂

Too little info to day but I will say that he probably wasn't what many people thought of him, he knighted the mountain, he made lyanna queen of beauty in from of his wife, he never tried to take the throne from his father despite the madness of him, he didn't told off Tywin when he publically in front of him said that they already had a better replacement during dustindalle, he keep going to summerhall to wollow in sadness and the biggest red flag its him misinterpreting his dragon dreams (prophecy always leads to disaster in this series). "I am the promised prince, no wait my son its the promised prince, no wait not that son my son with a girl of house stark not a dornish woman" he probably was too deep in grandiose Destiny to see the details and plan, he even went to the front against freaking Robert and I believe the biggest tell of him not putting much attention to his feet was kngihting the mountain, he probably never listened to rummors or the like too busy trying to make the prophecy true or being sad about his birth. All in all I would say he would start great then develop into the kind of guy that always fumbles the ball because he is unable to look at reality and can't bother to iron the details

@11bluekitkats

5 ай бұрын

I see what you’re saying like any character Rhaegar definitely has his flaws. There are some things I gotta say though. Well with the mountain I highly doubt he heard about what he did. Before he was knighted he was really only well known in the west. Rhaegar was young and prophecy’s aren’t exactly straight forward so him being confused by then for a long time is understandable. Rhaegar was a teenager when Tywin did that telling off the hand of the king and arguably the most powerful man in the kingdoms wouldn’t be a smart move especially when he was right. He did probably pay too much attention to prophecy’s but it did lead to the prince that was promised in the show. With the battle against Robert he injured Robert and lifted the spirits of his troops by leading in the front lines. So once again he had the right intentions just not the best consequences. Anyways thank you for commenting it helps out the channel!

"In our world." Sadly no. There's still many places around the world where that age gap would be socially acceptable. If you go back 40 or 50 years it wouldn't have been considered inappropriate almost anywhere. It's still even legal in some U.S. states.

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

Well to correct myself in the more modern parts of the world it’s unacceptable.

L and R does not equal Jon. There’s no way. She didn’t like Robert because he wouldn’t keep to her bed. So she falls in love with a man who is married? It doesn’t make sense. GRRMs wife said herself that George would never make it that simple

@11bluekitkats

4 ай бұрын

George asked D&D one big question after they discussed making the show just to make sure they knew what they were doing and if they got it right they could make the show. It was “Who is Jon Snows mother?”. They obviously got it write and that’s why it’s in the show. The hints are everywhere in the books too.

Robert isn’t older than rhaegar

@11bluekitkats

4 ай бұрын

Rhaegar was born in 258 Ac and Robert was born in 252 Ac according to asoiaf Wiki

@Rodneyjackson11

4 ай бұрын

@@11bluekitkats it says 262 on wiki

@Rodneyjackson11

4 ай бұрын

@@11bluekitkats rhaegar was a 24 when he died Robert started the Rebellion at like 20 I’m pretty sure

@11bluekitkats

4 ай бұрын

Well I’m going based off of wiki of Westeros. I think in the book Rhaegar is older but in the show Robert is because he like most characters got aged up.

He wasn't great. That's for sure. He took another man's wife despite knowing how it could tear the realm apart. However, considering he shares a world with people like Euron and Tywin and Ramsey and Craster and Cersei and the Mountain He is far from the worst person.

@11bluekitkats

5 ай бұрын

To be fair to Rhaegar it was messed up but they were merely betrothed and not married yet. Like I said in the video I don’t think Rhaegar realized his actions would begin a chain of events that would start a war. The 2 cared for each other but Rhaegar never knew people would think he kidnapped her. He also probably didn’t know how Brandon would’ve reacted.

@TotalTech2.

5 ай бұрын

@@11bluekitkats While it is true that Leana didn't love Robert Rhaegar *publicly* challenged Robert in front of all of the other noble houses when he gave her the crown of "love and beauty" and then knowingly took her from her family fully aware that it could cause a war and potentially end his bloodline. He wasn't trying to save Leana from a bad guy he simply wanted her and didn't care about the consequences to his future kingdom. What he did was *incredibly* selfish and while you can't put him in the same category as someone like The Mountain or Craster as the future king he should have known better than to put the realm at risk for his own personal happiness. He is kind of similar to Viserys in HOTD in that way

@11bluekitkats

5 ай бұрын

@@TotalTech2. It might’ve been a slight but I wouldn’t call it a challenge Robert didn’t see it that way he wasn’t happy about it though. The thing is I don’t think what he did was worthy of causing war and what truly caused the war and made it inevitable was what the mad king did in kingslanding. Now did Brandons reaction to what he thought was the kidnapping lead to all that stuff. Yes, but ultimately the mad king made the choices that resulted in war. The war wouldn’t have began at least immediately if Aerys didn’t kill Rickard and Brandon in a cruel way and then call for Ned and Roberts heads. The war could’ve been prevented if Rhaegar was in kingslanding or if the mad king had his hand handle it or something. The mad king really was the one to blame.

@TotalTech2.

5 ай бұрын

@@11bluekitkats It wasn't like the slight was the sole reason for the war. The Targeryans had been on the decline for a long time and The Mad king made a *LOT* of decisions which turned the lords against him particularly Tywin Rhaygar taking Leana was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. If he had done it at a different time or a different era it may have been able to be worked out but as future king I think he should have known that rebellion was only half a step away and put aside his feelings to work on the realm first and then deal with his own personal desires second. Leana wasn't an unwilling participant so what he did wasnt evil evil. But it was still selfish to put himself first and the realm second. He should have dealt with his father first and then worked everything else out.

@11bluekitkats

5 ай бұрын

I think what Aerys did in kingslanding was the straw that broke the camels back. But what Rhaegar did directly lead to that. The realm and especially the Targaryen dynasty was on the decline for a long time so that obviously didn’t help. Rhaegar was trying to end his fathers reign it just wasn’t an easy thing to do, the tourney at Harrenhal was his best shot but it was ruined when Aerys appeared. Rhaegar also got with Lyanna because he thought together they would make the prince who was promised. This is the person who would save the world from the white walkers. So it wasn’t just about his personal feelings.

Yes rhaeger is a good person

Arguably the worst character in the series. He did what he did knowing it would probably start a civil war. Robert killing him at the Trident was definitely the good ending.

@11bluekitkats

3 ай бұрын

It obviously caused some problems but if the truth got out about him and Lyanna being together by choice then I don’t know if the war would’ve started. The people close to Lyanna all knew even though she was betrothed to Robert she didn’t like him. So if they heard the truth and she wasn’t harmed and the mad king doesn’t kill any Starks why go to war?

@good8619

3 ай бұрын

Should have told the truth then lol

@11bluekitkats

3 ай бұрын

By the time Rhaegar figured out the lie was spread Brandon was probably already the mad kings prisoner.

Wow that is a lot of theory stated as fact in this video. Steer clear of this guys channel as he definitely confuses fact with theory.

@11bluekitkats

9 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure before every theory I state that it’s a theory and then I talk about how likely the theory is then I get to the point.

Answer no no he was not.

@Alejojojo6

8 ай бұрын

yes, yes he was

@realBatman-89

4 ай бұрын

Yes and no. And yes. And no.