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10 ай бұрын

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10 ай бұрын

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10 ай бұрын

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@jarrodgoforth1257

10 ай бұрын

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10 ай бұрын

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Fun Fact: Jack Gleeson received a letter from George R.R. Martin after the show aired, stating: "Congratulations on your marvelous performance. Everyone hates you!"

@celldh0825

10 ай бұрын

A horrible letter to recieve in most contexts...

@operationangel7940

10 ай бұрын

I think the actor stated that he never actually watched Game of Thrones despite acting in it. All he knows about his character comes from the script or what everyone else tells him.

@KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies

10 ай бұрын

Grrm is hilarious

@SankyEON

10 ай бұрын

@@KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies his funniest joke is having an entire TV show based on his book series start, end, and wait for at least 4 more years before releasing the next installment.

@brenttrotter88

10 ай бұрын

Pretty sure he gave up acting after this role.

One minor correction- Joffrey wasn’t murdered. He poisoned himself so he wouldn’t be around when the show fell off a cliff.

@Visitormassacre

10 ай бұрын

Truly we all reveal who we are at the end.

@danyf.1442

10 ай бұрын

Good one!

@1998topornik

10 ай бұрын

XD

@Bumbum_Inspector

10 ай бұрын

That's epic fan cannon lmao

@joshdk97

10 ай бұрын

Bruh you got me 🤣

I like how Joffrey and Tommen have the opposite downfalls as king. Joffrey was too selfish, too mean, and hardheaded as king. Tommen was too selfless, too nice and softheaded as king.

@jorgebersabe293

10 ай бұрын

Like Aenys and Maegor: -Joffrey was like Maegor, strong and decisive, but utterly psychopathic and thought that spilling blood was the solution to all his problems. -Tommen was like Aenys: Kind and amiable, yet weak and eager to please, who thought he could please everyone.

@TDenterpriser

10 ай бұрын

Tommen is still alive in the books

@whitewitch32

10 ай бұрын

​@@jorgebersabe293Margor did what has to be done, and he became mad after he was hit in head, but he did everything to save his family. Joffrey will lead his family to downfall like Mad king Aerys.

@sugarpearl9781

10 ай бұрын

I mean…they were both abused children. They never had a chance

@HuntingViolets

10 ай бұрын

@@TDenterpriser This video, although it mentions the kitten incident, seems to lean more on the show (murder of Ros, etcl).

I hate how people take their hatred and anger out on the actor because people can’t distinguish him from the character because he did such an amazing performance.

@LINX29X92

7 ай бұрын

He’s evil

@eevve9894

7 ай бұрын

He said in interview that nobody was bulling him.

@yannick245

4 ай бұрын

I think this is happening more often to soap opera actors, with a, let's say not that bright of an audience. They often _"live the show"_ and don't separate it from reality.

@rais6036

4 ай бұрын

Nah idiots always hate on actors

@fightvale57

3 ай бұрын

do people do that to him?

I love how Joffrey obeyed his mother's lessons on how wrong it is to hit a woman, deciding to order a knight to hit her for him. Without a doubt, a logical decision at the level of the undoing of the Gordian knot

@ptolemeeselenion1542

10 ай бұрын

A mental move worthy of the undoing of both of those.

@alilweeb7684

10 ай бұрын

He's definitely a "if you are homeless just buy a house" type of person

@insultlk

10 ай бұрын

Joffrey and Ramsay are entertaining to watch, defo the best characters for getting in a laugh. Ramsay be saying the funniest things tho

@sibongisenikhumalo8198

10 ай бұрын

I think his "father" told him that. Remember when the king slapped the queen? He said it himself that it was unkingly

@TheStapleGunKid

10 ай бұрын

Well it really wasn't about obeying his mother, it was a general trend: Joffrey only has others commit violence for him. He doesn't personally carry it out (with the exception of violence against a few prosititutes). When he wants someone executed or mutilated, he has Sir Illyn do it. When he wants someone beaten he has Trant do it. He's the polar opposite of Ned Stark's vew that he who passes the sentence should swing the sword.

You know Jack Gleason did a phenomenal job when the entire world hates your character with a passion and was delighted when he died via poisoning

@Jartran72

10 ай бұрын

And Jack is such a nice kid/man too. So charismatic in interviews. If you see him talk and smile you really get to see how well he acted out the role of Joffrey.

@terminator572

10 ай бұрын

​@@Jartran72 its always the absolutely saintly that perform as the worst dregs of humanity isn't it?

@margarethmichelina5146

10 ай бұрын

I heard he got married privately last year in Ireland. Good for him for finding a true happiness in real life.

@thesenate1844

10 ай бұрын

I feel so bad for actors who get hated just because their characters are meant to be unlikeable villains

@Prashant-xl1rv

10 ай бұрын

And then wanted him desperately back when High Sparrow took over the city under Tommens reign

The fact Joffrey thought he could take on Robb Stark in sparring is actually comical

@jeanrose1627

10 ай бұрын

In the books Joffrey IS bigger than both jon and robb even if they're older than him Physically he's a small jaime Lannister and his father was one of the best fighters so he's got a huge ego

@htsandw4496

10 ай бұрын

In the books he fought with Robb to a draw in a swordfight. He wasn't as craven as he is in the show

@beloved-child

10 ай бұрын

In the show he thought and bragged about sparring and killing Stannis, not Robb. Tyrion mocked him as he walked away. Didn't read books surprised he was less of a coward

@josue.ortega

5 ай бұрын

In the books he is quite large and brawny for his age, about as old (early teens) as Robb, and practices swordfighting regularly

@pacoramon9468

Ай бұрын

He is way more pathetic in the show, in the books he was more physically imposing.

I'm glad someone acknowledged Robert’s influence on Joffrey, not just Cersi

@thelegacyofgaming2928

10 ай бұрын

Everyone acknowledged it, it's just that Cersei was far worse, so making a video on her influence makes more sense than Robert.

@Delightfully_Bitchy

9 ай бұрын

Also, the TV show really beats you over the head with how similar Joffery and Cersei are, so I don't blame people for focusing on that more. The book makes it clear that Joffery was trying to emulated his father in his own way.

@Potato-po9kr

8 ай бұрын

You the mean the lack of

@eevve9894

7 ай бұрын

​@@Potato-po9krHe was giving Joffrey brutal ideas like he suggested killing Bran is a good thing for him, because he cannot walk now. Robert said that when he was drunk, but he also ordered killing Daenerys because she's dangerous as a Targeryen.

@professorsassafras

6 ай бұрын

Oh don't get excited while Robert helped dig Joffreys hole Cersei probably did the push and put the final nails on the coffin. The sad thing is Joffreys whole life is a lie told to him by cersei and he lives and dies never realizing the truth. Cersei by cheating on the king inadvertently started a war. Yes Joffrey did the execution but without cersei's cheating a war would not have happened. Also to note that Joffrey was only put on the throne out of cersei's desire to rule herself. Joffrey never realized he is not a true king or heir, to cersei Joffrey was just a ticket to ruling. And that's it, I genuinely think that when Joffrey died cersei was mourning the loss of her ticket to power more than her loss of a child. Jamie never did nothing, Tyrion and tywin are the only people who actually tried to teach Joffrey something and restrain him. Joffrey never realized that Ned Stark was right.

Perhaps the most hated and vile villain on television, but you can’t deny the incredible staying power he had in the show. Truly one of the most captivating villains of all time

@little6315

10 ай бұрын

today people criticize the direction that the writing of the tv show took, but one of the great hits was joffrey, they turned a somewhat forgettable character from the books into one of the greatest villains of tv shows, the actor deserved much more recognition

@adamweisshaup

10 ай бұрын

@@little6315 Somewhat forgettable in the books? Compared to whom?

@THE_GUY_ONE

10 ай бұрын

@@little6315 Instead he got so much shit, that he decided to mostly stay away from acting.

@ptolemeeselenion1542

10 ай бұрын

In terms of television broadcasted fictional villainy being bated, Ramsey Bolton, the boy who backstabbed Jon Snow, Littlefinger, Cersei, and the orchestrators of the Red Wedding competes pretty hard with him. In terms of the most vile... well, we have a galaxy of those.

@little6315

10 ай бұрын

@@adamweisshaup who cares about him in the books? he hardly appears and when he appears he is basically a cersei but only with the sadistic part, in the show at least he has something to analyze

No matter how much we hated Joffrey, we look back on our time with him fondly in comparison to the last two seasons of Game of Thrones

@Daniel-bb9qj

10 ай бұрын

Season 5 and 6 weren’t great either. When Joffrey died the show fell off haha

@browniebear

10 ай бұрын

​@@Daniel-bb9qjthe show officially fell off after Tywin died along with the ommision of Jaime's confession that Tysha wasn't actually paid off by him and Tywin and that she actually did love Tyrion, which was massive in Tyion's development

@Daniel-bb9qj

10 ай бұрын

@@browniebear yeah

@kittylover62

10 ай бұрын

We love to hate him

@margarethmichelina5146

10 ай бұрын

​@@Daniel-bb9qj At least there was still Ramsay who was as worse as Joffrey and more sadistic but still they don't have to give Jeyne Poole's treatment to Sansa like that as it ruins her character arc and why would Littlefinger sent her back to Winterfell by the same people who killed his childhood crush? He can't be that stupid! And then he got replaced by Euron Greyjoy a.k.a "We got Ramsay Bolton at home."

"I AM THE KING!!" ~ Joffrey, 17 Minute video "Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king." ~ Tywin, 1 hour and 10 minute video

@bosertheropode5443

10 ай бұрын

I AM THE KING! I AM THE KING! I AM THE KING DR HAN!

@Prophetofthe8thLegion

8 ай бұрын

@@bosertheropode5443Dr Tywin

@armouredjester1622

7 ай бұрын

Tywin was right, though. Joffrey was not the true king.

@perfectallycromulent

6 ай бұрын

Tywin was wrong in more ways than one. There's no such thing as a "true king." that's a philosophical strawman designed to stop arguments not clarify anything. And thousands of years of earth history shows that the best way to be considered something is to say it over and over again. It's why Roman emperors put their faces on coins and put statues of themselves everywhere. i'll go with the pharoahs of Egypt, and their tireless efforts to spread their images and names, for advice on managing reputation as a monarch before a fictional example. you want people to think you are the king, you say it again and again and you make them do the same.

"It's hard to put a leash on a dog when you've already put a crown on its head."-Tyrion Lannister to Cercei about Joffrey

Superb acting by that kid, regardless of how much he was hated. He was Caligula level of acting on par with Jay Robinson. Might be an overstatement, but for a essentially a child to evoke rage from people watching him play Joffrey is a testament to the level excellence he achieved such acting.

@quitcallinmebill1699

10 ай бұрын

Wrong. He was an awful actor. Lindsey Lohan was a better actor

@c.f.bellairs1055

10 ай бұрын

@@quitcallinmebill1699 boring troll strat, try again

@bruhistantv9806

10 ай бұрын

He was 19 when he started acting as Joffrey, not really a kid. Good youthful genes nevertheless

@shaanalam3872

10 ай бұрын

@@quitcallinmebill1699 bait

It sucks Jack Gleason got so much hatemail from crazy fans, he absolutely nailed the role - I hope to see him in more stuff in the future

@olofacosta3192

10 ай бұрын

He apparently didn't . He has said in interviews that he never got any hate for the role

@Kingedwardiii2003

10 ай бұрын

@@olofacosta3192he did and so did Leena Heedy who played Cersei, Jack I think is pursuing a degree from a Christian university.

@olofacosta3192

10 ай бұрын

@@Kingedwardiii2003 he's said in in a interview that he didn't get any hate for his role as Joffrey. Lena did get some awkward interactions though

@margarethmichelina5146

10 ай бұрын

​@@Kingedwardiii2003 What I heard is last year, he got married privately in Ireland along with his friends and family. So, he's been coming a long way.

@FabalociousDee

10 ай бұрын

@@olofacosta3192 Thank God! He seems like a genuinely nice guy IRL.

Holy shit I never realized the fact that Joffrey was just hunting like his “father”

@Druzica18

10 ай бұрын

me either holy cats (ha ha)

Joffrey was so evil he even caused Jack Gleeson to suffer

Hands down probably the most hated character in that show

@henriqueantunes457

10 ай бұрын

Nah Cersei, is worse for me. She made joffrey, and she is the most infuriatingly oblivious evil genius. In the books at least.

@JamesJohnson-tr1gu

10 ай бұрын

Ramsay Bolton has entered the chat

@Something8830

10 ай бұрын

‘The Late’ Walder Frey

@danny_decheeto8300

10 ай бұрын

@@Something8830 true that mf was awful

@ImGonnasayit

10 ай бұрын

He was a little shit and played the role well. I easily hated Ramsay and Walter more than I did him

*Fun fact:* Joffrey is heavily based on Emperor Caligula. In addition to having an appearance quite similar to the Emperor's, his extravagant cruelty is basically identical. It's quite possible George R. Martin was specifically inspired by the Caligula from the Anthony Burgess' book "The Kingdom of the Wicked", in which that Emperor commits acts as cruel as lunatics, such as serving his guests cooked babies or filling with semen the pillow he uses to suffocate Tiberius

@FirstOfTheMagi

10 ай бұрын

And then he made his horse Consul! Funniest shit I've ever seen.

@little6315

10 ай бұрын

Based on edward of lancaster too

@TheMan-je5xq

10 ай бұрын

@@FirstOfTheMagi and supposedly declared war on the sea god Neptune I hear lol

@FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod

10 ай бұрын

​@@FirstOfTheMagiAnd after leaving the empire in his Horse's capable hooves, Caligula looks to more important matters

@kallemattiwaris2422

10 ай бұрын

I recall reading that the guy was initially pretty popular and fairly capable emperor. He then was poisoned or simply fell ill. After months of fewer, he finally got better, but turned into a paranoid, insane monster.

The books heavily imply that Joffrey's tangles with Bran Stark didn't end with refusing to comfort Lady Stark. An assassin makes a failed attempt to kill Bran with a dagger that is eventually traced to belong to King Robert. The implication is that Joffrey took the dagger and gave it to the assassin to do the deed with. And there are two possible motivations for this act: Either his general cruelty, or a horribly misguided attempt to earn favour from his father, for after learning of Bran's crippling, Robert lamented that keeping such children alive might actually be crueler than letting them die.

@tianamIV

10 ай бұрын

That second possible reason honestly makes him in my mind actually seem like a child. I think it’s easy to forget Joffrey is a child but that really paints it clear for me

@vivvy_0

10 ай бұрын

@@tianamIVit’s sad we never got to see any scene where joffrey talked about it

@tianamIV

10 ай бұрын

@@vivvy_0 right!

Another thing to note is that Joffrey seems obsessed about torturing sansa after she seems him weakly beg for his life. As if he's overcompensating for her seeing his weakness. He does the same to Tyrion after he slaps him as you noticed and it seems to be a Lannister thing lol(never forget a slight)

@louwinters508

10 ай бұрын

Tywin was similar. He didn't like people laughing because he thought they were laughing at him. All three children are all Lannister. I'm pretty sure Tywins wife was also a Lannister. So there has been no new blood for a while. Tommin resembles Tywins father in personality. Joffrey resembles Tywin and Cersie but is also a bit of a coward in the show at least.

@olofacosta3192

10 ай бұрын

@@louwinters508 Tyrion is like a mix between Tytos and Tywin too

@korawitbuttramee618

7 ай бұрын

@@louwinters508 Joffrey is also a coward in the book as well when it was clear he was in actual danger. He acted all talk, but the moment he saw his own blood, he was reduced to a sniveling crybaby screaming for his mother to save him.

Joffrey is what happens when an evil nature meets power at a young age, if he had lived longer he could’ve been one of the most evil characters in television history

@axelhopfinger533

10 ай бұрын

Don't forget the factor of extreme privilege and shelteredness with simultaneous complete absence of personal responsibility or any moderating benevolent influences by persons of trust. Kid really had no chance turning out as messed up as he did. Spiled rich kid raised by a posessive, psychopathic single mom with an absent father and too few male figures of authority to teach him boundaries and develop his character.

@margarethmichelina5146

10 ай бұрын

Also, don't forget he got raised by a spoiled narcissitic mother.

@Jackal_El_Lobo34

10 ай бұрын

He’s a textbook Malignant Narcissist that rivals the likes of Marque de Sade in terms of sadistic sexual evil and vial cruelty.

@LockedDownSpectator

10 ай бұрын

In the spirit of the story, he really was not going to live long into his teens, to be fair. He will have made too many enemies even Tywin could not protect him from. For instance, I don’t think a hothead like Loras would have stood for him abusing Margaery.

@cuckertarlson3329

10 ай бұрын

Na bruh. Ramsey Bolton was way worse. Because joffery was cruel and evil yes but he was also a coward. Ramsey was more evil and not a coward at all

I remember watching the purple wedding episode at a "game of thrones viewing party" in a bar. Literally the whole crowd cheered when Joffrey died...that's quite telling lol!

@ayuwoki453

10 ай бұрын

lmfao that's hilarious

@reynanlamsen2007

10 ай бұрын

"Rest in piss bozo lmao"

Please do an episode on Cersei Lannister. The actress did such an amazing job portraying her and she’s by far on of the most interesting characters in the show.

@raymondsims7042

10 ай бұрын

She’s one of the best characters in tv history

“He’s monumentally stupid”, I couldn’t have said it better myself. If Joffrey had the kind of control chances are his kingdom would’ve been easily conquered, he would’ve overlooked any advice given to him by more experienced leaders and probably would’ve tried to hang out in the front line. I can only imagine him screaming from a dirty cell in the North or complaining about a water leak in the cell of an Iron Isle dungeon. Hell, him freaking out in a sky cell would’ve been hilarious too!

@Moldylocks

4 ай бұрын

He would never be in the frontlines of any battle, he's a mama's boy, she wouldn't let him, even if he had the balls to go (which he didn't). Although I agree with the rest of your points, he definitely would've sown distrust all around everywhere he went, the allies his father has secured would join other legions real fast if he had any real power.

@jeremiahsymonette4781

4 ай бұрын

Unlikely. He not dumb enough to get in the way of those who know what they're doing. He woulda just enjoyed the spoils of being king while taking credit for all the real work that got done. Like he did when tyrion saved the city from stannis. The only possible thing that could happen is a rebellion because the kid was sadistic

I feel like the mental illness and incestuous blood line had a lot to do with it. He basically was like his great great grandfather book wise

@louwinters508

10 ай бұрын

Really. I don't know anything about him. I'll have to look it up.

@favoredhustlekai

10 ай бұрын

@@louwinters508 the books give a great insight but the shows GOT and HOD are worth watching as well

@louwinters508

10 ай бұрын

@@favoredhustlekai I've watched both but not read much of the books. I want to wait till they are finished if they ever are. I looked up his great great grandad Gerold is it. He doesn't seem much like Joff. Although yes he was a sneaky murderer apparently.

@allye4228

10 ай бұрын

If it was because of incest why don’t Myrcella and Tommen have similar personalities to Joffrey? It’s mainly because of Robert’s neglect and Joffrey being the crown prince would have a mother as terrible as Cersei would devote all her attention to him.

@tianamIV

10 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@allye4228 genetics work like that. One kid could get some genetic vulnerabilities to things other kids won’t. This genetic vulnerability to mental illness and development of psychopathy was triggered by his environment (the factors you named).

Joffrey's an evil SOB, but I can't deny that he's got a great sense of fashion.

@helenrose5383

10 ай бұрын

True! He is the best dressed in the whole of Game of Thrones, better than Cersei, Daenerys and Tyrion.

@FabalociousDee

10 ай бұрын

He was pretty dripped out. 😄

@ashleyjones2137

10 ай бұрын

@@FabalociousDee lol! 😂

Honestly, I can’t help but pity Joffrey. He was coddled and indulged by Cersei, abused by Robert, and neglected by Jaime. Maybe if Joffrey spent more time with Tyrion, despite his mom likely feeding him lies about Tyrion, he could have ended up better. Tyrion could have been Joffrey’s light at the end of the tunnel, kind of like how Iroh was for Zuko. Or heck, how Jaime was for Tyrion. In the end, Joffrey was a horrible, pathetic little shit, but he’s also kind of a villain of his circumstances. Not to mention, he’s completely insane, and the fact he’s so young and so out of his mind is even more tragic. Compare that to Ramsay, who not only knows and admits that he’s evil, but he’s proud of it.

@jeanrose1627

10 ай бұрын

Tyrion isn't a saint in the books and it's clear than he doesn't like his nephew at all

@Moldylocks

4 ай бұрын

Having a bad upbringing doesn't excuse the choices you make when you are growing up, surely there must be some personal accountability when he tortures prostitutes? I don't think you should spend energy feeling pity for people like that, especially fictional ones. I'd save my pity for the actor himself because of the idiots who made him quit acting because they are so dumb they can not tell the difference between a show and reality.

I got to meet him at a convention in 2017, I remember having a great conversation with him, and about how a character like it Joffrey can evoke so much emotion and he was nothing but the nicest person ever

@minimalbstolerance8113

9 ай бұрын

A lot of actors who are best known for playing villains are really nice guys in real life.

I might be one of the few people who feel pity for Joffrey. When you learn more about the people around him, you know he never had a chance. Cersei was cruel and indulged him at every point, Tywin saw him as a tool for his "legacy", Robert didn't care for him at all, etc. He was the product of all t the people in his life and was all their negative aspects turned up to eleven. Children often try to act like those closets to them and emulate those directly around them the most. What was Joffrey if not the apathy of Robert, cruelty of the Lannister House, and the twisting evil that infected the Iron Throne?

@samserrecchia9236

10 ай бұрын

that’s why George is such a terrific author. practically all of the characters he writes can be sympathized with. his strongest writing skill imo is his characterization

@Moldylocks

4 ай бұрын

@@samserrecchia9236 Totally agree. Especially when you compare it to the shitty one-dimensional heroes and villains Hollywood gives us on a regular basis over the last decade, it really is a massive difference having characters that are complex, with both good and bad qualities. Even some one-dimensional revenge-action flicks have heroes and villains with more depth than most (modern) Disney heroes for example. I miss good writing, and good movies.

@KrivitskyM

Ай бұрын

You can feel pity for him, but unfortunately I believe he was gone past the point of changing and the only improvement for his life would've been removing him from the position of power. An evil farmer or a ship worker Joffrey would've been annoying, but nowhere near destructive as King Joffrey.

In the books, GRRM draws a direct line from Tywin to Cersei to Joffrey: -in ACOK, both Cersei and Joffrey greet Tyrion with "You." To which Tyrion comments on where Joffrey learnt his courtesies -in ASOS, both Tywin and Cersei greet Jaime by immediately blaming his hand on Catelyn Tully and swearing vengeance... to which Jaime corrects them by saying it was Tywin's own mercenary who did it Tywin's life philosophy of Lannister superiority + his total sexism means Tywin's legacy always had a huge hole in it - even if Tywin were to perfectly recreate himself in a male heir, disregarding the female sex means maleducation will guarantee a Cersei situation, where the next generation progressively degenerates as a malprepared daughter cannot properly prepare the next line That is, Tywin ignored his daughter, the very person who is supposed to train the Lannister king... so Cersei couldnt make anything but a Joffrey given Tywin's lack of education. Thus, GRRM is stating that Joffrey is a logical end to Tywin's ideology........ In the words of Sansa: "Bright, shining, empty".

@evilmerv4645

10 ай бұрын

Wow, I never thought of it that way

@olofacosta3192

10 ай бұрын

Yup. After reading AFFC Joffrey almost comes across as what Cersei would be if she could transform herself to the male she always wanted to be. Total power that allows her/him to torment everyone around them,but still far too stupid and cowardly to be a decent ruler. What's funny is that Tywin dislikes both his daughter and his grandson and realises how dumb they are,but can't see that they're basically like that because of him

@Ashbrash1998

10 ай бұрын

I also want to add that in the books Robert has a hand in making Joffrey as well, he was a abusive, raping drunk, he almost killed Joffrey once, verbally abusive and showed Joffrey how a king can do as he will (and also making Cersei more evil). Cersei had a hand in it too, but it said several times that Joffrey is trying to emulate Robert. With parents like them, he never had a chance.

@grimknight3121

10 ай бұрын

@@olofacosta3192 Cersei is old enough to be responsible for own shortcomings.

@olofacosta3192

10 ай бұрын

@@grimknight3121 well Cersei IS worse than Tywin. Much worse really. But he had a massive part in making her so vile

One thing I think you forgot to mention is the fact that Tommen and Myrcella were probably neglected by Robert too, so clearly something was wrong with Joffrey himself (The fact that he was meant to be king and Cersei's favorite didn't help too of course)

@LBF522

10 ай бұрын

Good points.

@louwinters508

10 ай бұрын

They were spared the spoiling and moddycoddling that Cersie inflicted on Joffrey. She treated him like her golden boy. Although she loved the other two I don't think she really doted on them as much. I think she was obsessed with Joffrey and treated him like an equal at a very young age. I do agree a lot is inate personality traits. Tywin and Cersie both show psychopathic traits. And Cersie is extremely narcissistic aswell and somewhat sadistic. Tommen seems more like Tywins father. All these people are so closely related compared with normal families because they are born of incest. Tywins father is as closely related as a grandfather to Joffrey, Tommin and Marcella. And Tywin almost as much as a father. Plus although absent to the other two kids I don't think Robert despised them. And with his bastards he indulged some if them when he felt like it but never was a father to them.

@anjafrohlich1170

10 ай бұрын

They probably got more love from Robert. Mircella would've been his 'little girl' and Tommen might've been weak in his eyes but he was the youngest and had two siblings in between him and his mothers influence. They both also had their older brother as very dislikeable prime example of what not to be.

What makes Joffrey fascinating is that its really tough to separate how much of Joffrey is his *nature* and how much is the result of the way he was raised. You could make the argument that he was always going to come out spoiled rotten ,but at the same time: 1. Cersei imprinted her own frustration and spite into him, alongside her father's brutal philosophy, hoping to effectively sit on the Iron Throne through Joffrey since she couldn't do so on her own ,due to the heavy patriarchal society of Westeros. Only for her to unintentionally twist him into a vicious, powerhungry little shit like herself. And one she ended up not even being able to control by the end. 2. His real father was absent from his life as revealing that he was the product of incest would *destroy* house Lannister and reveal that Robert's brothers had a legitimate claim to the Throne. And speaking of... 3. Robert himself was as absentminded from raising his "children" as he was in actually ruling. Literally the only time he paid any attention to Joffrey is when he'd do something stupid and would have to discipline him. And instead of sitting down and teaching Joffrey *anything* about the real world , he would just run off to a brothel or to go drink himself into a coma or go hunting. Meanwhile , Cersei was free to undercut any lesson Joffrey could have learned. Humility being one of them. 4. Tywin was hardly even a factor in his life until he basically had no other choice then to get involved to fix his messes for him. At which point he all but ruled instead of him. 5. Tyrion was quite literally the only impactfull *positive* influence on Joffrey. Every time he literally slapped him and laid into him for being a sadistic idiot was akin to an orgasmic experience. If Tyrion had been a bigger part of his life maybe he would have turned out better ,as he would have actually taught him something on top of reprimanding him, unlike Robert. Overall, Joffrey was a *fantastic* villain. Hateable, fully entertaining and effectively the catalyst for the entire story. The actor also did a *phenomenal* job of bringing him to life. Its almost too fitting that the show , basically, died with him.

@andu1854

10 ай бұрын

Also the track record for inbred children is not good in the Game of Thrones universe,

@jakealter5504

10 ай бұрын

@@andu1854 it was good for some of the early Targaryens

@Moldylocks

4 ай бұрын

@@andu1854 It's not really great in our reality either...

A product of incest, disliked by his “Father” Robert who he always wanted validation from, pampered by his mother since day 1, never facing any consequences and growing up in the most powerful family in Westeros. He was a recipe for disaster. In a way his attitude reminds me of Nero. Btw can you do an analyzing evil episode on The Human Condition trilogy? Both the movies and the books are masterpieces.

@arvintyree1109

10 ай бұрын

Joffery reminds me of the eldest son of saddam hussein, Uday. He was a nasty piece of work he only got away with so many evil acts because of his father and too was born from incest cause his father and mother were cousins. Joffery only got away with his crimes because of his powerful family

@ledam2654

10 ай бұрын

@@arvintyree1109 Child of twins is very different from child of cousins

@makutas-v261

10 ай бұрын

Exactly, he is way more fitting for Nero rather than Caligula as all these comments are saying.

@anaihilator

10 ай бұрын

It's said extreme coddling and lack of consequences breeds narcissists

@jorgebersabe293

9 ай бұрын

Joffrey also resembles Carlos de Austria (1545-1568), eldest son of Felipe II and his first wife, María Manuela of Portugal. His mother died giving birth to him and his father was too busy running Spain to even spare some time with him. Carlos loathed his father, yet craved his admiration and approval.

Jack Gleeson was amazing as Joffrey, truly a character I love to hate. Thank you so much for making a video on him.

@AdaptiveApeHybrid

10 ай бұрын

He was so perfectly casted imo

@frederickshaibani5655

10 ай бұрын

An astonishingly good performance. Gleeson retired from acting and later went to grad school back in Ireland if I'm not mistaken. He once replied to my tweet when I said I loved his performance and he couldn't have been more grateful. Truly the polar opposite of him as Joffrey haha. I heard a rumor that one of the reasons he gave up acting was because being publicly identified with being such a monstrous character really took a toll on his mental health. Seems like a quality bloke, so I hope he's happy with whatever he's doing!

Vile Eye, One of the most cruel, sadistic characters in TV history. A co-worker I believe either threw an object or wanted to throw an object onto the TV for how Joffrey treated many characters during his wedding ceremony. That’s how great a villain he his. It would be great to analyze these characters: Ramsey Bolton - Game of Thrones Castor Troy - Face/Off Franklin Saint - Snowfall The characters and theme from Reservoir Dogs The Governor from The Walking Dead comic

@pysky4u

8 ай бұрын

Add little finger (he’s the most interesting)

Jack Gleeson was just outstanding! He had the potential to become one of the best actors. Even tho his carrier ended too soon, his performance as Joffrey will be remembered for years to come.

He might be evil, but you cant deny the Joffmeister was an entertaining villain.

Joffrey was one of the best villains ever. This kid was unapologetically pure evil who seemed to only fear karma, combat, loosing and Tywin. Recommendation: STEM from the film Upgrade.

@beloved-child

10 ай бұрын

Jeffrey feared anything real or tangible outside his king shell. He's a coward, and always was a soft lil bitch.

@beastieking1

10 ай бұрын

Seconded on STEM

I can hear a softness in your voice, gentle like you're speaking to a lover at over the phone on the back porch of your childhood home, trying not to wake your parents, speaking into the warm dark wind of the night. absolutely beautiful, thank you Vile Eye.

@jpraise6771

2 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but what are you on about😂 Just ask this guy out or something lol

When he died on the show, as it was airing, a friend of mine posted, "Choke you little shit. CHOKE" and not a single person who commented was confused. Even his grandma was like yassss. Honestly, one of my favorite early adulthood tv memories. Jeoffrey sucked so bad he united generations.

Joffrey Baratheon. The boy we loved to hate. The actor is out of this world considering he's a really sweet kid irl and was THAT hateable on the show. And I could watch that death scene on an endless loop forever, unbelievably satisfying to watch and absolutely hilarious 😅

@marcellinodadon1103

10 ай бұрын

_...i'm going to watch it again right now..._ 😆...

@studdedleatherlace

10 ай бұрын

@@marcellinodadon1103 I miss GOT so much. And I cannot hide my disappointment that George R.R. Martin took so long to write the books that they had to take it upon themselves to end the show. I don't even mind an ending that isn't happy. I actually tend to like more messed up/sad endings but the direction they went with that ending and some of those characters was just rough. So unsatisfied with the final two seasons especially.

@zapallo566

10 ай бұрын

@@studdedleatherlace not martin's fault, d & d just suck

@studdedleatherlace

10 ай бұрын

@@zapallo566 I mean, he's partially to blame but at the same time, you can't push the creative process I guess 🤷🏼‍♀️ But yeah those dudes basically ruined it, it just felt really rushed like they were just trying to hurry and finish before the actors got too old. Which was exactly the case imo

@quitcallinmebill1699

10 ай бұрын

He's a terrible actor. One of the most untalented in hollywood

Yessir! Joffrey was one of the most despicable villains on the series and the books. Everyone is mine to torment!

I feel so bad for that kid, he did such an excellent job 😂😂😂😂

Jack Gleeson deserves so much more credit, he played this villain SO well.

He was my favourite villain from Game of Thrones. Phenomenal performance!!

@rodneymckay8860

10 ай бұрын

GoT may have produced more of the best villains than most novels.

Let’s go! Glad you’re finally covering some GoT characters. Can’t wait to see your video on Ramsay Bolton.

@raymondsims7042

10 ай бұрын

He should do littlefinger and Cersei as well. He should make a video on Jamie Lannister as well

Not only was he a hated character, Jack Gleeson played him spectacularly that it's never boring when Joff is the scene. It's a pretty good combo methinks. A villain that's just vicious woulf have been less entertaining to watch.

My only problem with Analyzing Evil is that I’m going through these videos faster than new ones are posted. A very enjoyable series.

This actor really played the character so well. It’s so sad he faced real life fallout for how evil he was able to make the character in his portrayal.

@AdaptiveApeHybrid

10 ай бұрын

Just goes to show how dumb humanity actually is.

@Firguy

10 ай бұрын

It's always the actors who play the best villains who get harassed, like Paul Reiser and Andy Robinson.

The cast claim his character was essentially the exact opposite of the actors personality. That’s how you know talent. Similar to Joaquin Phoenix in gladiator

@jorgebersabe293

10 ай бұрын

Jack Gleeson even cited Joaquin Phoenix's Commodus as one of his inspirations.

Joffery might've died by poison, but it was his parents who killed him.

It's notable that in the books, Cersei actively cultivated Joffrey's personality and when Robert disciplined Joffrey over killing the cat, Cersei promised to kill Robert in his sleep if he ever struck him again.

@jorgebersabe293

5 ай бұрын

Robert didn't discipline Joffrey. Hitting your child so hard you almost killed him is lashing out in reckless fury, not discipline.

@ok.4720

26 күн бұрын

I know you guys like to hold Robert's hand for everything. But that wasn't disciplining him. Robert hit him so hard that he knocked out two of his baby teeth.

A real villain. No face turn, no mercy. Excellent work by Jack Gleeson. Side Note: is Sephiroth doing the narration now???🔥

@HumungusO_o

10 ай бұрын

Thought the same damn thing hahaha

@tamiwatchesstuff

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree. Every great performance of a villain character requires said actor/actress playing that character to not do a face turn. The audience knows it immediately and can’t suspend their disbelief in the fictional story presented to them on their theater/television/digital device.

The way you presented Joffrey accomplished something I thought that I'd never be able to... I felt something resembling sympathy for the way Joffrey was raised. Everyone deserves far better parents than Cersei and Robert

One thing that I found interesting was how GRRM was quick to point out in one of his interviews (I can't remember which one, as he's done like 1,000 of them--since he has nothing else he needs to focus on, apparently) that Joffrey and Tywinn seem so irredeemable because they were the only two main characters who never had POV chapters. Related to this is the character of Tyrion. As I read online: "We see Tyrion as the hero because we, the readers and viewers, often see things from his point of view. But the people living in King's Landing _DON'T_ see him as we do, and they've clearly got a different picture of the type of man he is." I'm not trying to imply Joffrey or Twinn would be sympathetic if we saw things from their vantage points (we might even be _more_ disgusted by them), but I've just always found that interesting.

One of My favorite details about how he was raised comes with the Cat and her litter story. Cersei tells the story as simply a child making a mistake, an accident born out of curiosity that should not be looked too much into, and Even shows hatred towards Robert for his understandable disgust at the scene Meanwhile, Stannis side of the story paints it in it's true form, a child comiting a wicked act and not being properly corrected. As a bonus. In some of the Audiobook formats, the narrator gives Cersei a dismisive tone during her recounting, while giving Stannis (a man that has seen and suffered from The horrors of War) a diagusted tone of voice in his recounting.

Absolutely love your channel man! Do Ramsay Bolton ne Snow next! Hes a whole other level of evil even compared to this little shit.

@aegonthedragon7303

10 ай бұрын

I think the best way to describe him is depraved. Just a black hole of irredeemable filth.

Yes! Now we need a video on Ramsey and Roose Bolton!!

I noticed that he is being compared to Roman Leaders. Augustus, Caligula, and Tiberius have done some messed up stuff. However it is Cafe Nero that keeps me awake at night.

He played his role so well he had to retire from acting since people just hated him

@RuSosan

10 ай бұрын

It's a damn shame really.

@ok.4720

26 күн бұрын

That is a lie. Jack retired because he wanted to.

Now I’m not necessarily equipped to say this, but. I always felt that of the main human villains in GoT, Joffrey appeared more as a psychopath as he was cowardly and coddled and only wanted to do things he wanted. Ramsey on the other hand, I always felt was a sociopath as he had genuinely no emotions and most notably compared to Joffrey: No fear. Joffrey is constantly sniffling and crying, Ramsay gets eaten alive by dogs and until they bite his face off is convinced they won’t touch him

@KR4FTW3RK

10 ай бұрын

Joffrey is a petulant child. Ramsay is like a force of nature.

@patflann29

10 ай бұрын

@@KR4FTW3RK also a very good way to view it lol

Actors and writers did an amazing job with this character, so much so that the actual actor got hate offscreen.

Joffrey's death was nothing short of cathartic

Now that the show has wrapped up, I think Barry would be a really interesting show to make videos about! Lots of complex characters and moral dilemmas. Great job as always Vile.

Anyone who says I am the king is no true king

@greenkoopa

10 ай бұрын

King Koopa disagrees, but his first name is King so I'm not sure how this fits.

It's interesting how Robert and to an extent Cersei seem to be the only people Joffrey has anything resembling love for. Robert seems to be his role-model and he even cries at his death.

Watching Tyrion strike Joffrey was just so satisfying "And now I have struck a king, did my hand fall off?" 🤣 🤣 🤣

As hated as he is as a character, I thought he was great for the series. He’s a character who isn’t physically powerful, isn’t particularly intelligent, very emotional and worst of all, he wields so much power that he shouldn’t have because he’s a bastard. But that shows how unfair this world is (and the real world is). There’s some sense of justice when he dies during the Purple Wedding, especially in such horrific fashion but the damage he caused was irreversible. He was the perfect villain for this world.

@shamalidisanayaka5093

4 ай бұрын

totally agree

His death scene was one of the most satisfying moments in the show.

As the final season of “Top Boy” has aired on Netflix and all episodes have been released, It would be great to see an “Analyse Evil of Sully” one of the main characters in the whole series.

best channel on youtube! and joeffery was a s.o.b btw i have more suggetions t bag - prison break jax teller - sons of anarchy vic mackey- the shield hitman agent 47- hitman video game franchise

Excellent timing imo. I'm on my 29385736th reread of the entire series and I actually just read the Purple Wedding last night lol. I love that chapter so much.

One thing I did not like from the GoT Joffrey is that they portray him as coward when in the books he is stupidly 'brave'. It gave, good people brave, bad people coward energy, which the series incidentally turned to in the later seasons.

Geoffrey acted so well that the actor literally received Death Threats while the show was streaming 😂 now THATS REAL acting!

@alkanadi

10 ай бұрын

THAT'S REAL fucked up.

@pysky4u

8 ай бұрын

*Joffrey

@davidconner-shover51

7 ай бұрын

I find it most disturbing to lay that on the actor. though the part was played so well, that many had confused the part from the actor

Between your voice,the subtle background music, and the way you analyze people, every video is perfect

I wonder if it was actually Margaery that murdered the "sex worker' with the Crossbow. They foreshadow it earlier with her asking Joffrey if she'd like to watch her kill someone.

@beloved-child

10 ай бұрын

I never thought of that.....even Cersei admits she knows how to manipulate him.....how far would she go? She's a nice person by nature from what we see....her relationship with Cersei is immaterial because Cersei threatened her first and dismissed any notion of them being friends or allies

@CellHeart

10 ай бұрын

I'd prefer to think that would have killed the prositute as a mercy, since Joffrey was only going to keep torturing her for some time

@rouskeycarpel1436

10 ай бұрын

It was Joffrey.We see him playing with the crossbow after killing Ros

@Raycloud

10 ай бұрын

@@rouskeycarpel1436 That's hardly conclusive proof, not that I have proof either. I'm not claiming anything happened, just wondering. Do you think Margaery is capable of that?

@EmperorPylades

10 ай бұрын

​@@Raycloudshe wouldn't like it, but as the granddaughter and protege of Lady Olenna, shed play along with the sick game, and as said above, take the opportunity to finish her off to end Joffrey's sick games

I love the timing of me finding this channel + a friend of mine starting to read GoT without knowing ANYTHING of the franchise!!!! This feeds my need as an old GoT fan + i hold back spoiling him :")

I really love the interviews Jack Gleeson did with Oxford Union! The difference between an actor and his character could not have been greater...

keep up the great content suggestions for next videos t bag - prison break jax teller - sons of anarchy vic mackey- the shield hitman agent 47- hitman video game franchise

@freddogrosso9835

10 ай бұрын

T Bag was cancer made person. Perfect performance.

This was such a great analysis to this character, so vile and yet such an interesting addition to a great series

"-That sword was Joffrey's, right? What did he call it? -Widow's Wail... -He really was a c**t, wasn't he?.... Tell Cersei! I want her to know it was me!" Still the best part of Season 7.

He played this part so well that Im almost positive in real life he gets cold shoulders in public. I’ve never hated a character so much in any media. Brilliant acting!!!!

Guy who played him did a damn good job.

nice video suggestions for next videos t bag - prison break jax teller - sons of anarchy vic mackey- the shield hitman agent 47- hitman video game franchise

One of the best actors ever. Had a huge effect on the audience. Job well done!

I cannot put into words the delight I felt when Joffrey began to choke to death in the books... but then Cersei accused Tyrion of killing him.

Hey Vile I would love to see a video on the villains from Puss In Boots The Last Wish. I suggest covering them in one video due to the amount of screen time they get and they all correspond with the movie's messages and themes.

@marcusholder6508

10 ай бұрын

When putting them on the ranking, Horner would easily be S tier, while Goldi would be an easy D tier, but I honestly have no idea where to put Death.

@blending_in

10 ай бұрын

​@@marcusholder6508 death is god tier lol

@marcusholder6508

10 ай бұрын

@@blending_in I mean on the ranking of evilness, the one from this channel. Jack is clearly the most evil which is why he's S tier, while Goldi isn't evil at all which is why she's D tier, but Death is more complicated. He's doing his job, but also takes things personal. We don't really know a lot about him, which probably makes him harder to anylyze.

No joke I was literally scream "DIE DIE DIE" when he was choking in his final scene 😂😂

Such a great character. Dude absolutely nailed the role.

"It's hard to put a leash on a dog after you have put a Crown on his head" - Tyrion Lannister Probably one of the best Quotes in the Show and hate or love Joffrey you have to admit he was part of the Golden Age Arc in GOT

Fantastic. Finaly a character of GoT again. Ramsay, Roose and Petyr are also worthy of a take.

Major props to the guy who played him. To bad he didn’t pursue a career he had serious acting chops.

I love the narration on this one. The delivery is so soft and dark at the same time.

Thanks for another great episode, Vile Eye! For a future video, I would highly recommend Silco from the Arcane series. He’s an incredibly interesting character with several fascinating layers, so I think you’d enjoy analyzing him.

As vile as Joffrey is, he still isn’t the most evil character in the series. I think it’s pretty clear that Anti-social personality disorder runs in the Lannister family, as his mother is sociopath. His grandfather, Tywin also resembles a businessmen type sociopath, who is only caring and charming when he needs to be. Joffrey being terribly inbred, could escape the negative genetic personality traits that run in his family. Also as an aside: A former teacher of mine, told me a story about former student of her’s who was a diagnosed sociopath. The student in question would shoot the eyes out of puppies and kittens for fun with a pellet gun. While watching, game of thrones Tyrion, mocks Joffrey by joking about his nephew torturing kittens. So unfortunately, real world equivalents to Joffrey due exist. Excellent video analysis as always. Villain Profile Suggestions: 1. Frank Underwood/Francis Urquart (House of Cards) 2. 001 Squid Game) 3. Petyr Baelish (A Song of Ice and Fire) 4. Frank Gallagher (Shameless US 5. Marty and Wendy Byrde (Ozark) 6. Dudley Smith (L.A Confidential) 7. Lorne Malvo (Fargo) 8. Idi Amin (Last King of Scotland) 9. Kratos (God of War series) 10. Eric Cartman (South Park) 11. Father (Full Metal Alchemist) 12. The Sons of Anarchy Gang

@user-rq8xx8ir9t

10 ай бұрын

underwood is the best i cant believe netflix killed him off offscreen i swear to god im bringing frank in from another universe to punish them for that

Another excellent video Vile Eye! I hope the Lich from Adventure Time gets a glimpse of your vision.

@Braylinmora

10 ай бұрын

YES THAT WOULD BE GREAT HOPE YOUR COMMENT GETS RECOGNITION

With absolutely NO WARNING or slipped secret from the cast or crew, Joffrey's death was a complete and totally AWESOME EVENT!! It remained in my "Top 5 Unexpected Moments for the 8 seasons of that show! Ned losing his head was another one of the "worst unexpected moment". I have 3 more but I'd have to look them up😅

We need a video about the Northron boy who backstabbed Jon Snow. Banal backstabbing evil, even when made a first time by an individual in the midst of their loss of innocence... is a special kind of evil.

@pretzelman945

10 ай бұрын

Lmfao

@poorwhitepeoplearefailures2396

9 ай бұрын

Lmfao shut up. Ollie’s motives are understandable

I’ve been wanting an analysis on Joffrey for a while, and I’m highly satisfied with this video. But there’s a couple things I want to bring into the conversation that I felt were overlooked in the analysis. 1. Although the big reason for Joffrey’s personality was the influence of his corrupt family, his genetics likely also played a role in that. Incest has been denounced and reviled by scientist for ages. A huge reason as to why is because incest children actually have a higher likelyhood of being born deformed in a physical and/or mental fashion. And so it’s also hugely the case that Joffrey has an inability to think things through because of how messed up his brain chemistry likely is. Even the Targaryens had to put a limit to the inbreeding because of the amount of Mad Targaryens. Jack Gleeson even said, “I imagine all that incest is not good for the pre-frontal lobe!” 😂 2. I know Joffrey is a vile person, but I do feel a decent amount of sympathy for him. He was born an incest child and was lied to about it his entire life, and was also born into a family of corrupt politicians. So even though his acts are horrible, it’s not like he asked for the life he was given. Nobody asked to be born, even less so born into the life he had. 3. Joffrey is definitely one of the most revolting characters on the show, but he’s not as bad as some of the other villains in my opinion. His actions were held back from time to time because of his parents, and so he wasn’t capable of causing as much damage as he would have liked. But then if you compare him to Ramsay: Ramsay is so much worse in my opinion, because there was no holding back on his actions whatsoever, and he was malicious on purpose for the pursuit of power. Joffrey at the very least had some tragedy in his backstory to gain him some sympathy. Ramsay did everything he did with no justifications whatsoever. And although yes, Ramsay was a bastard and did what he did so he could become the heir to the Dreadfort. He found great enjoyment in what he did and continued to do it after he achieved his goal. And I’m pretty sure had Ramsay become king he would’ve been on par with the Mad King Areys! Ramsay had more time to cause more damage than Joffrey and would have done even more had he won the Iron Throne. Also Ramsay was way smarter than Joffrey and would’ve found more creative ways to out-chaos Joffrey. 😬 4. I’m very interested to see where Joffrey will rank on the next tier list video. In my personal opinion, he would either be High B-Tier or Low A-Tier. Mainly because of his youth, influences, genetics, and scale of crimes being shorter than several other characters in the show. He’s like a much more vile version of Alex DeLarge. These are all aspects of Joffrey that I feel get overlooked when discussing the character. And since this is a Joffrey analysis video, I felt it would be appropriate to make out these observations of mine. Sorry for the long comment. Much love to The Vile Eye! ❤