Back in 1991, I bought a Marshall JCM 900 100 watt head, and a 1960 angled cab. And my parents went away on holiday, I thought it would be a good idea to turn it up to 8 on the volume. I never did it again! My cat ran out of the house, my parents glasses in their drinks cabinet all fell over, and a lot of other stuff fell over. It took about 10 seconds on the guitar, of me trying to be Jimi Hendrix by getting great feedback, then ages clearing up the mess!

@dinosaursr

Ай бұрын

Cool

Tone? Volume? Nah… Let’s all just admire the “Eliminator” t-shirt

To quote Tom Bukovac, "Good tone should be heavy and hard to carry".

These darn kids will never know what it's like to have specific frequency deafness at 30 years old

@nickm.9474

Ай бұрын

Oh yes they will. Nothing is worse than using loud in ear monitors.

@Vermonster23

Ай бұрын

That ringing in my ear, just makes me never feel alone…😂 particularly enjoyable at night when I’m tired!

I'm getting used to the silent and quiet stages now. I've been missing the stage volume so I started another band. We're not going to have computers we're going to have stage volume coming out into the house. I bought a Marshall half stack for this band.

I have found at times, the Sheriff sitting across the road with a decibel meter to be the determining factor in acceptable volume.

@LucasJRice

Ай бұрын

What a waste of air. Can’t get my local police to control the street racer next door.

With great volume and great tone comes great responsibility! Cheers Casino!!

Return of the planet of the amps!

There is that tone that you can only get with sheer stage volume. Listen to a studio track then listen to the live version. Its a screamin, wide open sound they just cant/dont achieve in the studio.

I had a gig last Sunday were I turned down the reverb (it had the settings for the Sat Band) that really did not work for me. As for volume, I have my Princeton at 4 and it's plenty loud. Also remember the hall sounds different with a few people than a full house or if you have a low stage with people dancing in front of you. In other words there are variables. Love the show.

Ever since since I got the 1987 album "Freedom Rock", I crank the amp up all the way. 😅❤🎸

My SVT on 7 was awesome. At 71 I have hearing loss but it was worth it.

@jasondorsey7110

Ай бұрын

Playing at extreme volume leaves you in an afterglow that lasts for hours

If you’re loud enough, they can’t escape your tone 😂

I use a small transister Fender amp with a POD-XT, ''Kidney Bean shape''....on the Doubleverb and it's a great Fender Twin sound. The sounds on the POD-XT are amazing!!!...

Man, I love y’all’s videos. I also like fried pickles. When I was stationed at Fort Bragg, we used to go to this place in a small town to the west where the nice golf course is and eat the best fried pickles. It was in the 90’s so I can’t remember names of places for shit. Something Pines or something like that. Anyway, great videos always!

Fried PIckles and Yuengling....doing that tonight at the Tyler Bryant show

How many of us have hearing damage we don't realize and don't know what our "tone" really sounds like? Answer: A lot of us. I ask this question to "audiophiles" and they typically get angry.

@karmaandkerosene2885

Ай бұрын

Call one's hearing into question and watch. "Audiophiles" are all wine-snobs that think their ears and their music appreciation is better than everyone else's. Many have damaged their hearing and don't realize it, believing falsely that listening to "pure" music at loud volumes doesn't hurt your hearing.@browneye6969

@MrSmiley1964

Ай бұрын

Yeah, sitting here listening to the ringing in my ears compete with each other for which one can be the most annoying. My right ear has 3 different tones playing so it wins.

everclear sounded great at the uptown theater in mpls last summer. that said, I lovvvve my tube amps!

I absolutely listen to Jack Johnson as loud as possible. Not a joke. It bumps!

At the suggestion of my luthier, I just ordered a Bugera Attenuator. For a Fender HRD. that I’ve been playing between 1 and 2. Goes between the amp output and the speaker. Maybe that will be the One Master Volume Knob to Rule Them All. Time will tell.

Back in my home town, the bar I used to hang out in has bands a few steps downstairs, maybe 60' from the front door. When some bands play there, you will NOT have a conversation without shouting if you are in that lower area. I never heard complaints about volume. And all bands I saw there were using amps, usually mic'd The sound guy walks through the bar with an iPad to adjust the sound. I miss that place.

I found a compromise in a Captor X for live purpose. Staged down one step of power which really isn't all that much, take your time with setting up the appropriate cabinet IR, and you get your pushed amp live at a reasonable volume with the line out to the front of house and everyone's happy. The harsh reality to live sound is that when everyone plays at a lower volume, the mix sounds way better. No one wants to do that though, because it's not fun.

Turn it up!

Same applies for FOH and PA systems in clubs even bigger ones …. If the house is too loud the crowd can also be just as uncomfortable with it and they might not even be able to hear your stage volume ! Lol

Dr Z has post phase inverter master volume that keeps your tone the same as a cranked amp while you can lower the output volume. Problem solved. For modelers, always bring a flat response full range speaker that can cover if there is no PA. Ignore the amp snobs and do you

I've gone with the two amps (one clean and one crunch) for the loud shows and use one of those "Orange" Splitters (and when no one is looking, turn both amps on because, I need headroom my friends (don't ask the rest of the band about it).

I've got a ton of tube amps and can play as loud as I want at home, but these days I prefer playing digital. I even switched to a Fender FR-10 when I jam with my band.

Do I need a Fender 65 PRRI when I live in a condo? Absolutely not. But my reasoning was I can buy what sound I love or I can spend more money trying to get there instead of just buying what I wanted in the first place. I wish it had a master volume, but like Baxter said in that one old video, sometimes the gear we love has things about it we don’t like. But maybe, just maybe, some of the magic comes from that thing we don’t like. Would a Princeton Tone Master make more sense for me? Yes. But I already have a pink paisley acoustasonic tele. I don’t need two fender products that have planned obsolescence built in.

Most important piece of gear is not a guitar or an amp…it’s a place to practice at full volume. You learn to tame that sound level (with friends) and you become a band. In the early 90s, we had a lockout studio unit that separated us from other bands. Today I own a machine shop and the band plays here loud as we want 3-4 days a week. Concerning gigs wanting you to be quiet….DONT PLAY THEM (that’s for boy’s with modelers). Attenuators also are an option that should not be ignored. I stood in line in the late 90s to buy that red bean pos 2.0. Ever since then, people have been discussing how to make a unit sound more like a tube amp, and honestly, it’s a high end fizz that is present til this day one every “modeler” I’ve owned….and I’ve owned every one since the late 90s (gear nerd).

Good trick is to put the amps on the side of the stage facing across the stage. That way you can get the sound you want but won't blow the audience up. Plus you don't have to pump anything but vocals through the monitors. And the drummer can hear everyone.

Volume is really important I do believe. Whenever I go out and play the only bands that people pay attention to are the loud bands. Or louder bands. Tone (line 6 spider on insane) seems to be irrelevant to the audience. Now loud and songs the crowd likes and then Kazam you good. But the club owner will be pissed.

If you play at home all you need is 15 amps. My orange rocker is 15 watt that can go to 7 or 1 watt and that is perfect to get that tube amp cranking nice

@ryangunwitch-black

Ай бұрын

I use 15 amps at home. All strung together. 15 of em going at once. Sounds glorious. 😂

Loud doesn’t necessarily mean sounds good. We all think that we sound great, so why not turn it up because more is more😅 But often it’s just a loud, hot, mess from the audience’s perspective. And if they are in a place that is meant for imbibing and conversation no one wants to read lips to communicate and go deaf in the process. Got to know your audience and your venue.

Challenge - pick the tube amp: Tube Amp vs Modeler through a Quilter rig. Good luck ;)

The way the human ear works, volume _is_ tone, at least partly. ..... Making it loud changes the what your ear hears and passes on to your brain. What I expect at a rock concert is to be able to _feel_ the music resonating my chest! 😀

Cap't Tinnitus here kiddies. And let me just say go for the tone, push those tubes but don't bust your lease. Your ears will thank you.

You go Jonathan! I've tried all those digital crappy things..Hate it. Pescz

Baxter, I guess I’m a Luddite… I just can’t quit my tube amp! It does, however, have a speaker emulator and a silent XLR in the back

Tone is Tone, no matter the volume. Volume is a level of resonates

@Vermonster23

Ай бұрын

My Mesa, boogie tube amp has a different sound, and feel when not turned up. The tone is there at low volumes, but it does sound better when you push the main power amp. There is a totally different interaction with the Guitar.

Baxter really is Yoda A master volume knob will do it all...

Roll up the volume for grittier tone 😎

Remember folks, drive hides in the high end. A small amp with a mic is perfect!!!

We always want to play louder than the venue will allow. It’s a compromise we’re willing to make so we don’t get blacklisted.

When I was a kid I couldn’t wait to turn my Peavy up to 10. Go figure.

The baby boomers are the first generation where their kids tell them to lower the volume.

We haven't used amps on stage in 10 years. Not guitar or bass. Roland V-Drums and in-ear monitors too. Very little stage noise.

Master volume is your friend. As are good attenuators such as the Fryette PS. But… there is something about the room being filled with sound and the speakers being pushed hard. This all assuming you’re starting from a good place tone wise. 😊

Tone for me. LOL I play alone... almost any amp's volume will be more than fine.

I don't think playing while people are eating has to be depressing

You need to be able to feel the air moving in your chest. If you can’t do that, it’s not loud enough

I've found if playing some place that I have to turn down the amp below 3 or 4 it sounds awful.... Pedcx

I will say this, I do mostly digital and have sound guys for when I play and I hate it. They sound great, but to me it never truly captures the Guitar tone where an amp. It has a different response to it. I think you should be proficient at both, however, I prefer

fried pickles are good!

Have you ever had to adjust your Tone / Volume after the house is full of folks?

All the reasons your valve amp needs an attenuator

What? (I just watched Nirvana rehearsal from '88 in Krist's mom's house on KZread)

I used to have a t-shirt from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that said "If it's too loud, you're too old." Now I've gotten to the point where it's too loud. I bought a '62 Bassman, plugged it in once, said "Nope." and haven't used it again.

I waited to get my license until I was 18 because I didn’t want to pay $200 for the class. I made due with my motorcycle permit until then.

I find that whenever someone complains about my volume, I turn off my delay and then they tell me it sounds quieter. Weird.

😊

The Tone Master Pro and Fender FR-10 is all you need. Can even run your mic through it.......... If you are using modelers and it sounds like trash, then you need to learn how to use modelers and how to dial them in when setting up at a venue. Once you know how, you can get so close that the average person cannot tell the difference. You have to be tech savvy with a producers ear to pull it off at a high level.

@ItsVictoriaG

Ай бұрын

I’d rather have a Vox Pathfinder 10 over a Fender Frontman 10 any day. Which is funny, because I have a Princeton Reverb instead of an AC10. But I think Vox nails those practice amps. They’re so good.

Some one explain how you play through computer how do you hear it 15half got my permit than on my 16 birthday

Peavey 6505+

I think it's important to remember that people are going to bars to socialize and get laid etc.. Screaming "What I can't hear you" into a ladies ear is not sexy. So musicians... I know Jimi Hendrix (Damn can never spell his name) cranked his amp.... But Woodstock had like 500,000 people in an open field. He wasn't 20 ft away in a dive bar. That's all Im saying ;p

Can't turn down.

Pickles are gross, I don't think frying them will help much.

The audience doesn't care about your tone as long as it doesn't suck. The bar staff doesn't want to go hoarse shouting at customers and not being able to hear orders. Keep the volume down. Put on a good show regardless. That said, I'd rather play through a nice amp but if you want to gig in small rooms, direct/models and IEMs are expected/required.

Just be as loud as the drummer. Use an amp that does that appropriately.

It's not tone that players want. They think they want tone but they actually want to feel the vibration of the air. You can only get that with a good amount of volume.

Volumes gotta be loud enough to keep up with the drums. Unfortunately, too many guys show half stacks, playing with poor dynamics, causing problems at venues. A lot can be done to mitigate volume complaints with speaker/cab swaps, amp placement, good EQ, and a good stage mix etc. Often "too loud" is actually too bright, or too much bass creating a muddy wall of sound, or the bass player is too quiet allowing guitar to dominate the mix, or maybe you are playing at 10/10 with no dynamic range, or you pointed your amp directly at the sound guys head and he thinks you are louder than you actually are, you brought the wrong amp for the gig and have too much power on tap etc Volume and headroom is a nuanced thing, and too little can cause problems too. The idea some people have these days, that even a Deluxe is too much for most rooms is ridiculous. Some seem to have concluded guitarists need to play at super low volumes, ceding control of their dynamics so some sound guy (who may or may not have a clue) can give it back in a subpar foldback mix has got to go. That's a huge overcorrection. A buddy I play with uses a modeler. He's still schlepping around an FRFR cab so he's got enough volume to fit into a band mix. Bottom line, playing well with a group is a skill set you need to develop. Know your gear, know your band's mix, work on listening skills, and be prepared to make adjustments when necessary, regardless of what gear you are using.

Yuengling is greatest beer in the world. Get over yourself. 😄

Digital why bother I'm to old time consuming up for me to leave the planet

couldn't agree more.. I won't go see a show when a band is either using modelers and/or a quiet stage with no amps mic'd on stage... it sounds like garbage.. all drums and vocals.. not rock n roll.

If the audience thinks it’s too loud then it doesn’t matter what your tone is because they are going to hate you either way. You are playing for the audience, so it doesn’t matter what you want. Turn that shit down if you are playing at a restaurant where people didn’t come specifically to see you.

I’m old school punk guy and LOUDER IS BETTER! Always bands are way too quiet these days and they sing with that horrible breathy voice makes my skin crawl

BTW, I think I insulted you on my offer for a Fender CS guitar. Never heard back. Sorry!

folks don't understand dynamics. it's not the same volume all the time. that's how music works. small amps make music suck. you can't hammer your guitar constantly just so you can hear it. it's entirely too much whining about volume from people who don't know what they're whining about. soundmen are idiots.

Peavey 6505+