Shawn you are one of the true Vegas information channels that really presents from a person who lives and reside there.. Keep showing them what Vegas is all about.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm so glad you enjoy the videos.

@kevinbosma4047

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Milestomemories people with roofboxes on vacation are crying.....

Man I can’t help but worry about the monotony for their drivers going through the bland, narrow tunnel 64 times every 3 hours.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I asked about that and they all seemed really happy and enthusiastic. I know I would go crazy. 😂

@rincam5

3 жыл бұрын

Way better than driving on the road with other idiots in cars

@matthewgroza

3 жыл бұрын

eventually it will be autonomous.

@turbocat8372

3 жыл бұрын

The only way this system will work is to have the vehicles be autonomous and driverless and much higher capacity than Tesla cars.

@Seehart

3 жыл бұрын

I'd be very surprise if not automated by end of year.

Wow it's so great, it's weird that we haven't thought in something like this or even more efficient, say so like a train that moves even faster, that covers the entire city, doesn't contamitate like those huge car batteries and that can move hundreds of people at the same time (not only 5). Oh wait those are called fucking SUBWAYS

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

They considered a subway, but the proposal was for four times as much money.

@nicholashylton6857

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbailey8827 They could install a light rapid transit system. Higher throughput and fewer points of failure.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicholashylton6857 Much more expensive. Anything at ground level was ruled out. So it had to be elevated or underground. Both those options were bid at over $200 million.

@matthewsuttinger4179

2 жыл бұрын

Batteries in cars "contaminate" but trains are completely clean? ok

"this is the express part" They say this while driving at like 5mph past a parking lot. This is beyond ridiculous

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

😂 I think it was all a bit tongue in cheek but yeah it certainly isn’t fast through that area.

@mrtalleymonzep

3 жыл бұрын

"Express" means "not stopping."

@kenshin6553

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrtalleymonzep In other words "express" means anything faster than 0mph lol. Impressive

Interesting a small tunnel with taxis 🤔 The tunnel would never be allowed in Sweden as all the safety measures seams to be missing. No escape routes or fans manage the smoke in case of a fire etc.

@flinx

3 жыл бұрын

In Sweden what's the maximum distance allowed between emergency escape exits? In Las Vegas it's 762 meters. Stations are within that distance and are the emergency escapes. Ventilation fans in the central station are powerful enough to exhaust smoke from the tunnels.

@coreysuffield

3 жыл бұрын

these are not taxis(defined as a vehicle that collects fares), the LVCC loop vehicles will be free for guests. there are fans that move air through the tunnels, there is room for people to evacuate on foot around vehicles

@AurelAvramescu

3 жыл бұрын

@@flinx 500m to the a smoke free area, not to emergency exist and to the smoke free area, that is regulation in Sweden.

@hcw199

3 жыл бұрын

Death trap waiting to happen... Mark my words.

@hcw199

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the colors was an LGBTQ thing! LOL

Cars driving through a tunnel slowly. Ground breaking stuff.lol

@Neojhun

3 жыл бұрын

Who'd a thunk Cars can speed up as system gets more refined.

@Seehart

3 жыл бұрын

@@Neojhun And get automated too. They do the other tunnel with autopilot, and as a Model 3 owner, I can confirm that autopilot would have no problem with that task. Autopilot is better than human on freeways (I never intervene on freeways), and tunnels are easier than freeways. The really high speeds will require automation. I don't think typical human drivers can consistently drive 120mph in those narrow lanes with perfect safety. In any case things will be much quicker by end of year. And it seems fast enough now, so it's just icing on the cake.

@niuchajianfa6222

3 жыл бұрын

@@Seehart lol would you risk your life on it? suck it Tesla fan boy

@Seehart

3 жыл бұрын

@@niuchajianfa6222 of course I would trust my life on it. Every time anyone uses any form of transportation, they are trusting their lives to it. This is no different. Tesla has an excellent safety record, despite absurd cherry picked FUD stories to the contrary, and I trust Boring Company by extension. I don't see anything dangerous about this system.

@niuchajianfa6222

3 жыл бұрын

@@Seehart so do you have a tesla?

2:22 the 'express' cars have to stop for traffic as there is no bypass for the station. Ground breaking stuff.

They've managed to recreate the efficiency of the airport arrival and departure area but underground. Um... yeah?

Going through the tunnels is like looking at a colonoscopy video. LOL

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@orangefield2308

3 жыл бұрын

@@Milestomemories what happens if you get stuck in tunnel? how does tow truck get it?

@lockbert99

3 жыл бұрын

@@orangefield2308 Will have to back in to the broken car - if a tow truck fits.

@labu5605

3 жыл бұрын

@@orangefield2308 You don't necessarily need a tow truck to tow cars. Most cars have hooks to connect a rope to

@scottb.innovations4386

3 жыл бұрын

wrong color

Well if you just add rails, you would have a decent subway capable of transporting 10 times the amount of people.... just saying.

@williamhuang8309

3 жыл бұрын

And add some autonomous trains capable of running 90-second headways at a capacity of 1000 people each?

@ytzmark

2 жыл бұрын

This is much cheaper. facts

@Virsho

2 жыл бұрын

no you are wrong 1000 times more

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

For the convention center loop they don't actually need to transport 10 or 1000 times the amount of people. So any additional money you spent on a subway would be wasteful and inefficient. The bid for a subway that they received was four times as much money and would have taken longer to build.

@glennwallace7995

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbailey8827 If the end goal is to keep it limited to just the convention center then of course. If you want a transit system that extends beyond the scope of one building then you need a subway

A bus driver can drive 30-40 passengers so unless it becomes driverless, it's a yawn.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

That is the plan eventually.

@AckzaTV

3 жыл бұрын

im looking to buy a $5 to $10k charter bus, keepit using gas, install starlink and live streama nd prove gasolien is better than batterries when you live stream and promote envcironemntalism with cameras not co2 belching chemical polluting death batteriesand solar death crystals

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

@@AckzaTV are you okay?

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

A bus driver has to drive along clogged roads, stop at every station and stop-sign/red-light. The trip in a slow bus vs. the direct Loop is no contest: Loop wins, since people value a quick, safe trip above all else. Plus, Loop will have minibuses before long. If people prefer buses, they can take one in Vegas. I am certain that a Strip Loop will dominate and be the choice 99% of the time over a pathetic bus, which just isn't flexible enough to offer direct service to any of the 50 stations planned for the Strip Loop. Loop will become driverless pretty soon too; it's easier in a controlled tunnel system than out in the real world.

@Luigi64real

3 жыл бұрын

@@charliedoyle7824 unless you put a dedicated bus lane. The extra 2 minutes a bus will take is probably less than the amount of time you'll be waiting for a Tesla to pick you up

I wish Vegas just spent this money on a real public transport system. Though I understand the need for the city to have cool and new attractions- even a transport system like this- to attract tourists and stuff.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I totally get this sentiment, but I do want to point out they only spent $50M on this compared to far more for a train or other system and Boring is going to be taking on much of the risk of expanding the system. So real transport would have cost a ton more, but no doubt this system has limitations and is different in what it will eventually be. Thanks!

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

This will be a real transport system, and far more value than a subway or surface train. A subway the size of the planned Strip Loop would probably be over $20B and take 10+ years to build, and it wouldn't have as many stations or the flexibility of direct station-to-station service. Loop is better than traditional trains and buses; you'll see.

@SouthLondonRailwayPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

@@charliedoyle7824 These concepts have been done over and over for decades, it's nothing new and it won't last.

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

@@SouthLondonRailwayPhotography It's nothing new? You must be joking! What's new is cheap tunnel-roads that any city can afford. That's obviously new; just ask any city how much it costs build a road underground. Why wouldn't a tunnel with a road last? Tunnels are no good? Roads don't work? Cars don't run? What's to fail in a system where everything is already mass-produced and proven for a century? The only issue is, are the tunnels really safe? We'll find that out when they are operated for a few years. If so, Loop tunnels will obviously be big.

@SouthLondonRailwayPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

@@charliedoyle7824 It’s how the tunnels are used. This method of operating transport has been done loads of times and it’s just not very practical, that’s what isn’t new. A cheaper tunnel isn’t going to change what fundamentally just isn’t as practical for operation as a metro.

Seems like a underground subway should have been built instead long ago

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

A subway to serve the whole Strip would be gigantically expensive, and not feasible. This Loop system is a small fraction of the cost and more flexible. Vegas is lucky to be first.

@mickwelch8515

3 жыл бұрын

@@charliedoyle7824 Your incorrect. The only reason why we don’t have any decent way to get up and down the strip is because the Casinos think they can make a couple more dollars my making every tourist have to walk up and down the strip on foot passing each of their Casinos or taking a Uber/Lyft which is ridiculous. Every other major city has built tram or subway to get around just for their residents and we have 44,000,000 tourists visit the strip. We are not in the 1970’s anymore buddy get on the ball!!!

@mickwelch8515

3 жыл бұрын

@@charliedoyle7824 You don’t think that having terrible transportation here inhibits people visiting? I got news for you. People flying into the airport can’t even find a decent way to get to the strip only a couple miles off the strip they are stuck at the airport fir hours waiting for Uber or Lyft! It’s crazy insane. So Las Vegas answer to get the several hundred thousand convention goers sometimes daily visiting one event snd the 44,000,000 tourists visiting is to have them walk to a Tesla station and wait for a little Tesla car that holds 4 or 5 people at a time to drive them in a tube a few miles? It’s gimmicky….

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

@@mickwelch8515 What are you talking about? Every other city has built a tram or subway, except LV? Las Vegas has a monorail, which has gone bankrupt twice, and is a financial failure with too few stations, and too expensive and inflexible to serve the whole strip, while costing way more, and requiring a large staff to operate. An LV subway with dozens of stations would cost many tens of billion$, and could work, but would be much riskier, and not busy enough most days to pay the bills. Most American cities have a tiny subway, or none at all; same with light rail, which all have too few stations, and cost a ton, while crowding out the other vehicles. This Loop creates its own roads, has lots of cheaper stations, and is cheap and flexible to operate, using mass-produced EVs that are cheap and need little maintenance. When they are autonomous, the system will make tons of sense.

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

@@mickwelch8515 The Loop system has the cheapest extra roads a city can build: cheap tunnels. No other transportation system can touch new lanes for $10M per mile. It also has stations that are far cheaper than subways or elevated stations like the absurd monorail. The proposed Strip Loop shows about 50 stations. A subway couldn't possibly have that many; it would be technically and financially impossible. So your claim about all that walking to a station is absurd. There will be more Loop stations than for any other type of system, with direct service to 50 places in town. What other type of transport system can offer that? The monorail has only seven stations, and it has gone bankrupt twice; is that your answer, more monorail?

Seems like it is too staff heavy. All those drivers? All those staff members at the stations? It just seems horribly inefficient.

@danielmarquis434

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Could you imagine if Tesla was thinking about going autonomous? What a concept

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

It definitely can't be cheap to operate.

@pierregoba5713

3 жыл бұрын

I think this is an exhibit I suppose all those support staff won't be there overtime. Just security and drivers. An information desk either digital or 1 person and that should be enough.

@sarowie

3 жыл бұрын

@@pierregoba5713 1 driver for 1 to 3 customers is littearly staff intensive. Look at the driver to passenger ratio in an off hours subway train.

@pierregoba5713

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarowie but uber does the same no one is saying it's staff intensive. And since the plan is to go to pod of 12-18. It won't be always 3 passengers. And it will become autonomous eventually so this is interim. But with the 180k convention numbers sited, even if they did have drivers for ever it's not over staffing just remove the people in the lobby and your all good

8:43 When that proximity sensor shows red lines... my tesla would be beeping like crazy. They must have disabled the alarm for those cars.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Drivers wear a headset and have a command module so I am not sure if the audio is routed through there. Autopilot did pick up a lot of false things in the tunnels too.

@Seehart

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, weems likely that the only things they need for FSD tunnel operation is removing some trivial false positives, and then test in level 2 mode till they rack up a bunch of intervention-free miles. No way this could take more than a few months.

Very cool! I always learn something interesting and fun when watching your vids! Thanks!

My family was just talking about this system. I have shared your video with them. Thank you for the great job you always do. So informative as always. I hope it goes city wide. Exactly what my happy place needs.

@reginald7214

3 жыл бұрын

This system is adding a car lane underground. It has no benefit that can touch train or bus.

@CAESARbonds

3 жыл бұрын

@@reginald7214 it prohibits a train, so tesla can sell more cars.

@reginald7214

3 жыл бұрын

@@CAESARbonds 😆🤣 well said

Don't be distracted by flame thrower. Boring company will end up paying penalties. Capacity is easy to calculate. High school math. In PR world anything is possible.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I think their max penalty is a couple of million. It does seem based on their public positioning they hit their capacity, but we will see. I'm glad the LVCVA put that clause in there though because it is forcing them to push as hard as possible to meet those numbers.

@pr3cious193

3 жыл бұрын

@@Milestomemories we wouldn't even have to worry about any of this if they had just put trains into the tunnel instead of cars 🤦‍♂️

@smokeybandit9760

3 жыл бұрын

@@pr3cious193 exactly

@Seehart

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is easy to calculate. The capacity test last week measured over 4400, thereby exceeding the contract requirements. That's not a PR projection.

@pr3cious193

3 жыл бұрын

@@Seehart source?

It's a different take on people moving; promotes electric cars and Tesla for sure. A kitsch concept that Vegas can promote which isn't a bad thing. I envision some crazy, subliminal advertising happening on the walls of those tunnels. Definitely a plus for convention goers conveniently getting in/out of venues/events which are typically time sensitive and scheduled. It speedily gets you there without dealing with regular street traffic/delays. We gotta try alternatives to alternatives. Isn't that was ingenuity and progress is all about? If they can pull off a bigger system, like you say Shawn, it just might pay off. Was great to see this up close. Thanks for bringing it as always!

@Chilltothend

3 жыл бұрын

I think the tunnels could perhaps have features of augmented reality, or the windows of the tesla will be High Definition monitors. The window could function for advertising things to do in Vegas with a virtual stewardess, while the car automatically drives.

@Keithjustkeithwastaken

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chilltothend Jesus

Seems pretty cool although I don't see myself using it. It would be great once they tunnel to the airport. I can definitely see the advantage then. Thanks for the share!😊

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sherri!

@1flash3571

3 жыл бұрын

Over land, it takes about 20 plus minutes to get from one side to the other due to traffic. Using the tunnel only takes about 7 mins. Which one do you want to ride now?

@maythesciencebewithyou

3 жыл бұрын

Seems pretty dumb

@planets9102

3 жыл бұрын

@@1flash3571 except this has so little capacity you won't be able to.

@Keithjustkeithwastaken

2 жыл бұрын

@@1flash3571 so it's the same as every train I have ever been on?

I really don't understand all the hate this tunnel is getting. I love the fact that we're trying something new. Vegas has always lacked good public transportation. Rather if this works or not, I love the fact that we are looking for better alternatives instead of doing nothing.

@checkoutmyyoutubepage

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a cheap alternative. Not better. A better one would be a full fledged subway.

@robertw477

3 жыл бұрын

I have gone to that very outdated convention center for more than 20 years. Ill tell you a secret. Before they had this third hall many attendees would walk a few mins or take a golf cart. Thats it. No fancy cars in a tunnel. The cost for this. INSANE.

@pyrokn03

3 жыл бұрын

People hate things that are different. Its just human nature.

Love your energy and love Vegas. Definitely wishing TBC the best.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!!

Self driving cars with a driver, driving through a small tunnel, with passengers crossing road to get to the loading & uploading area. A someone thinks this is a good idea? Trams at amusement parks carry more people with less drivers a helluva lot less. Hey, but weren’t the cars supposed to be driverless and move faster. I can’t wait to see how long the lines are when CES happens in January.

I was at the south station too and vlogged this experience. Great job!

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’ll watch your video later. I was so glad we got to do it.

I love the boring tunnel tool on display. Couldn’t be done without it.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I love that they turned it into art.

Yeah it’s cool man thanks for the video very good. I couldn’t find credits for the music below the video I might’ve missed it because you’ve got lots of wonderful information there where do you get most of your music and especially at this time code 8:45

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I use KZread's music library for creators. The song is Hyperspeed by Eveningland.

I opened this video and saw a damn kid using flamethrower lmao

How is this faster if you have to wait in line? The tunnel is so narrow..if someone crashes??

The tunnels would be great throughout downtown to the airport. Getting in and out of that area would become super simple. It went about as fast as I’d imagine. Add it to the list of cool stuff the city has!

@stephencarmack3939

3 жыл бұрын

Also, a flamethrower...what?! 🤣

@orangefield2308

3 жыл бұрын

what happens if you get stuck in tunnel? how does tow truck get it?

@2nd3rd1st

3 жыл бұрын

That's the plan www.boringcompany.com/vegas-loop

@1flash3571

3 жыл бұрын

@@orangefield2308 Another Tesla can tow it out of the tunnel also.

@Chicago48

3 жыл бұрын

But it's built for TESLAs ONLY. It's like Apple. They only want you to buy THEIR brands. It only works with THEIR brands.

What happens if there's an accident? How do they get the ambulance or fire truck in there?

@IronFreee

3 жыл бұрын

They don't... Not even sure they can exit the vehicle.

Is that possible to go a circle on the wall? If I'm enough fast and also my tires also enough wide?

@davidsalisbury50

3 жыл бұрын

It’s been done in a storm drain in the UK. But not with the flat roadway, that would screw up the centripetal forces acting on the car.

very cool. thanks for the informative vid

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Guy with flame thrower singes his hand at 11:50

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I totally missed that!

The tunnels reminded me of the tunnels in the Arnold total recall movie.

@justwesclipz

3 жыл бұрын

One step closer to minority report

Thanks Shawn for the preview!

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I hope and pray for conventions to return and this will be hype. Great video thanks Shawn !

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Charlotte!

It will be fun to see the vision unfold piece by pierce. Have fun experiencing the initial innings...

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

@reginald7214

3 жыл бұрын

This is one of the dumbest ideas in history.

Such a waste... Tram running through those tunels would make so much more sense

@ColrathD

3 жыл бұрын

How much would it cost?

@AR-zq9hq

3 жыл бұрын

@@ColrathD probably at least half as much, and if you calculate costs per passenger, even less.

@planets9102

3 жыл бұрын

@@ColrathD Less than using luxury cars and a driver for every 4 passengers.

@marcxdestroyer

3 жыл бұрын

That's the plan. Being worked on.

@HarryS77

3 жыл бұрын

@@planets9102 Even less when you factor in things like the greater wear and tear on cars.

Wow! Cars driving slowly through a short tunnel. How revolutionary!

great detailed video!!

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Can somebody tell me how this is more effective than a subway system or a people mover system

@anggi8699

3 жыл бұрын

I know right. People mover has been around for decades and it's a proven system. Why not use that. I'm just curious how is this pass the safety regulation.

@rajnadar6555

3 жыл бұрын

Much less expensive to construct...it's only a mile long...when the self driving and the larger pods become a reality, this will be a good system...hopefully.

@nolanlaxamana422

3 жыл бұрын

what about cost and time to complete. no brainer. LV has to weigh doing nothing vs a solution that will cost a whole lot more. As long as there is convenient parking, I definitely will use it

Thanks for the video. Very cool for now but in the long run they are going to want movers that can carry more people. First convention and those lines will be massive and discourage people from using it. So question is what will the higher volume mover be? Some sort of Telsa shuttle? Or maybe a monorail?

@1flash3571

3 жыл бұрын

It had long line only due to the SCHEDULED rides. It wont be as long when the they have convention. Some will naturally take taxis or Ubers. Convention itself is about 1 mile long and it takes people using taxis or cars about 20 mins or longer to go only 1 mile. That is why they had this tunnel built.

@WMUBronco

3 жыл бұрын

@@1flash3571 The lines may be tame for the World of Concrete convention in june but SEMA in nov will draw around 150,000 and CES in jan will draw around 180,000. The lines will be long for both of those.

@1flash3571

3 жыл бұрын

@@WMUBronco Blame it on the Vegas Convention committee then. They were the ones who gave Elon and the Boring company their specifications. Their requirements for passenger capacity per hour was 4400 minimum. They passed that number with flying colors. Their passenger capacity will hit around 7k per hour with faster speed and a new vehicle that Boring company will build with higher passenger carrying capacity..

@WMUBronco

3 жыл бұрын

@@1flash3571 You hit the nail on the head, newer vehicle with higher passenger carrying capacity. And if they do take this tunnel system down the entire strip they will want the higher capacity vehicle.

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

definitely not a monorail.

how did the people in the above ground stations get to and from the convention centers? Did they have to cross the Tesla lanes? If yes, how would that work during busy times?

Where are the other stations located besides the convention center?

@Milestomemories

2 жыл бұрын

As of now the initial system was the 3 convention center stations. A full Vegas Loop system was approved this week but it isn't even under construction yet. That said, as of now there is an extension to this convention center system with stations being built at Resorts World and Encore.

Hopefully they are able to automate the driving eventually with Autopilot. Would save a ton in payroll and be safer.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree that will be a gamechanger. I noticed autopilot seeing trucks and other anomalies in the tunnels so I think they'll have to develop a different system but that shouldn't be difficult given it is a mostly controlled environment.

@FollowMarcos

3 жыл бұрын

@@Milestomemories No need for a different system, the AI just needs to learn more about the new environment.

@Matzes

3 жыл бұрын

The thing is useless if not automated

@pyrokn03

3 жыл бұрын

Part of enabling AI is training the neural networks on how to behave in the environment. Best way to do that is to temporarily pay for drivers...

@rickyay26

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah those idiots that work there know they’re on borrowed time once automation kicks them out. It’s a great future with efficiency taking priority.

Hopefully the autonomous + 12-16 passenger pods arrive soon!

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

That would be a gamechanger!

@Magiktcup

3 жыл бұрын

And yet by every metric it will still be inferior to rail.

@Helmarify

3 жыл бұрын

The pods will never arrive, looking at the development cost and the small amount of units they are going to need, even with multiple loops, they would never turn a profit on those. And the even with pods, the capacity is so small, it will not make sense.

@gabrielonibudo5710

3 жыл бұрын

@@Magiktcup What metrics? Cost; this cost $50mil a railway would be at least $2billion (drivers are already included). Time; this was made in about a year rail would take 4-10 years. Faster; if you get into one of these it doesn’t stop and wait for people to get on and off like rail does so you get to your destination quicker… the only problem is wait time how long you’ll wait for a vehicle after ordering, that is currently unknown but this is more efficient in every way

@BallerDan53

3 жыл бұрын

Subway trains can accommodate THOUSANDS of passengers and you consider an upgrade to 16 passengers a "game changer"? This is clearly delusional. The city of Vegas was promised a solution to their congestion problem and all they got was another tourist trap.

Excellent video on this exciting development for my home city of Las Vegas! The tunnels look narrow though. Did they address how people could evacuate the vehicle inside the tunnel if needed? It looks too narrow to even open a door. Just wondering your take. Thanks.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Anna. There is plenty of space to open a car door. For example a Tesla Model Y is 76" wide while the tunnel is 144" wide. There is about 5 1/2 feet of clearance total and the doors can be opened. Really hard to show that on video I admit.

Gee, I can hardly wait to experience the great thrill of the Vegas Loop! I'm sure it will be the highlight of my life, one which I will never again experience. Where else would I be able to ride in a Tesla that goes from the Las Vegas Convention Center all the way to the Las Vegas Convention Center. Imagine!! Being able to drive from one end of the convention center all the way to the other end. My goodness!! I never would have thought such an amazing thing was even possible!!

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

Soon you will be able to take that ride from the convention center to just about any casino along the Las Vegas Strip. Or from any casino to any other.

Not very cost effective to have to hire drivers. Trams could carry more in one trip and be way more efficient.

@AR-zq9hq

3 жыл бұрын

Trams won't sell Teslas

@gabrielonibudo5710

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by efficient? Cost efficient; this cost $50mil a tram would be at least $2billion (drivers are already included). Time efficient; this was made in about a year a tram would take 10 years. Faster; if you get into one of these it doesn’t stop and wait for people to get on and off like a tram does so you get to your destination quicker… the only problem is wait time how long you’ll wait for a vehicle after ordering, that is currently unknown but this is more efficient in every way

@planets9102

3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielonibudo5710 A tram of this length would be comparable in cost and actually work, good luck matching capacity with luxury cars all while avoiding congestion. And how exactly is lugging around heavy batteries more efficient than third rail? And apparently tire wear doesn't exist. And last time I checked 1 driver per 300 ppl is better than 1 per 4. And perhaps batteries being being flammable and all aren't that good of an idea in a tunnel with no ventilation (or safety precautions in general). And mind explaining how using luxury cars is somehow more efficient than dedicated transport vehicles.

@petitkruger2175

3 жыл бұрын

50million for a single tram? wtf r u on? buying a Tesla tram?

Looks really nice, I think it's a great idea.

@maticz3923

3 жыл бұрын

Its just a way worse subway Not great nor a new idea

@maticz3923

3 жыл бұрын

@Fox Spirt its free so it wont be even making any profit And why dig tunnels at all when you can just have dedicated bus lanes

Ooo Lord, that looks so scary. Looks like an mri machine which i also can't do. I'm glad you were able to test it out and bring us this video.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

It looks worse than it is! And you are only in the tunnels for less than a minute at a time so it doesn't last so long. So in that way not nearly as bad as an MRI. Thanks Elisha!

There does not seem to be any emergency access for first responders, sprinklers, or even painted arrows people can use if they need to walk to the nearest station. (The local fire-marshal is okay with this place?) Are there any bypass tunnels cars can use if a section become blocked? Tunnel maintenance... a flat tire... power failure? Can drivers or autonomous vehicles stop and back up if needed? I did see a fire extinguisher at 6:10 but I hardly think that's adequate.

@Milestomemories

2 жыл бұрын

They back the cars out and have smoke removal and fire suppression. Tunnel is only 1 mile long with the big station in the middle of it. That’s the rules and while I’m no expert on fire safety it feels fine when riding.

@nicholashylton6857

2 жыл бұрын

@@Milestomemories _"...only 1 mile long..."_ ? That sounds like a heck of a long way to cover on foot. An individual can succumb to smoke within metres (yards) of an intense fire in an inclosed space. Whatever fire control systems may be in the tunnel must be cleverly hidden.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicholashylton6857 You’re never more than 1200 feet from an exit (to a station) in these tunnels. Firefighters don’t bring their vehicles into buildings or even into regular subway tunnels. The Clark County fire department worked with The Boring Company on emergency equipment and procedures. The drivers have to demonstrate that they can back up in the tunnels before they can drive in them. The cars won’t be affected by a power failure, and the tunnel lights have backup power. Tunnel maintenance would be scheduled for a time when the system is closed. This loop is only open when the convention center is open. There haven’t been any breakdowns in the LVCC loop so far. If there were, I think they’d suspend operations until they clear the vehicle. The could always use a flag man system to alternate traffic flow through the open tunnel. They could use the gamer lights to turn the tunnel entrance red or green in place of an actual flag holder. One driver said the red was a signal not to enter a tunnel. It would not be smooth traffic flow. They’d clear the obstructing vehicle as quickly as possible, and then change the sign in the break room that says “X days without a breakdown in the tunnels” from 437 to 0.

@nicholashylton6857

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbailey8827 Of course firefighters don't bring their vehicles into train tunnels. That would be like driving a pumper truck into an office building that's burning down. Normal subway tunnels are designed to allow emergency responders into, and train passengers out of the area as quickly and safely as possible. In addition, the people who operate the trains are trained on escorting people to safely. The crews usually have access to flashlights and reflective vests. _"The drivers have to demonstrate that they can back up in the tunnels before they can drive in them."_ Perhaps I'm confused about this setup. Will the vehicles be operated by trained and qualified individuals or just ordinary people who have been evaluated after a test of some sort? The gentleman in the video says he's been around the loop 65 times. I wish the video was a little more clear on the specifics about the facility's operations.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicholashylton6857 I don't know every detail of their safety plans. I do know that they worked with the fire department to develop and test them. Drivers have mentioned that they are trained (including training on how to respond to questions from passengers). One obvious difference between this and traditional subway is the number of people per vehicle. You won't have a hundred people to guide out of a multi-carriage vehicle and onto a narrow escape path in the dark. Most people using the tunnel will evacuate in the vehicle they are already in. Only the few passengers and drivers in the directly affected vehicles will need to escape on foot. They can choose the shortest route, forward or back the way they came. If they choose back, they might even catch a ride in one of the other cars. If they choose forward, the path should be clear, as traffic in front would have kept going. You're never more than 1200 feet from an exit. Another difference from a subway is that there are no hazardous rails to trip over and no electrified "third rail". The roadway is smooth, flat, and 9 feet wide. No rats, no giant alligators, no homeless people, and no secret villain lairs to stumble upon. The fireman I saw interviewed who was familiar with the tunnels seemed impressed by the ventilation system that could direct smoke, fumes, and flames away from evacuating passengers and away from approaching first responders. The Loop is designed with safety in mind, though some of that safety might have been imposed externally, like the current max speed of 40 mph in the tunnels and 10 mph in the stations.

@6:40 3 hours =65 trips So that means that with a 30 second stop it's less than 2 minutes/ trip?

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

The trip time is about 2 minutes end to end.

Great tour. Are the drivers actually steering the cars in the tunnel or are the cars self driving? Thanks

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

The drivers are in full control! They do an amazing job of keeping the car steady.

@CharlotteOConnor

3 жыл бұрын

I Thought they were going to be driverless?

@01DOGG01

3 жыл бұрын

@@Big0h LOL!!! You still believe that BS? "probably by end of year" is exactly the type of talk musk himself would put out. Everything is always "end of year" or "next year" and he never delivers. He just removed radar and associated safety features, yet pushes the cars as being safer than people. Get real!

@apexpredator2118

3 жыл бұрын

@@01DOGG01 It has been about to drive by itself on highways since a long time. It's even easier to auto pilot on a single lane tunnel. It's only the auto steer on city streets that's been taking time.

@cyrusadamrevilla3851

3 жыл бұрын

@@01DOGG01 Do you really think they would remove yhe the radar if it's gonna make the autopilot a lot less safer? Comon, you can't be that stupid.

Great start, but I prefer to think a few years in the future. Cars will be replaced with autonomous people movers. They may not even have windows. Looking at a tunnel can get boring (or Claustrophobic for some). Think of wall mounted monitors that project picturesque roadways with billboards for advertising. You can’t just look at the present incarnation. This is just a stopgap implementation using available and familiar modes of present day transportation.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I too can see the future of the system and am excited about it!

Are the cars in auto pilot mode with drivers there as a safety measure? Because if the drivers do this non stop, those narrow tunnels could cause strain and affect accurate driving. I can see some drivers fatiguing and hitting tunnel walls. That would be my biggest concern. Please explain....

@pyrokn03

3 жыл бұрын

The Tesla neural networks need to collect data for training purposes. Cant do that without real world scenarios...

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

No autopilot. Drivers are controlling the cars 100%.

they really need to develop different vehicles for the sake of subway replacement. These vehicles cost too much per passenger and have less capacity than probably ought to exist.

@fluitfluiten

3 жыл бұрын

The plan is to move to pods that can seat 12 people. Tesla just has a bit of a factory space problem right now.

@Magiktcup

3 жыл бұрын

@@fluitfluiten They have more than a factory space problem lol.

@Seehart

3 жыл бұрын

@@Magiktcup nope, they don't. Don't believe everything you see on the internet.

@Seehart

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, that's in the plan. Using off-the-shelf Tesla's is expedient at the moment, and sufficient for the flow rate promised in the contract. There will be larger and cheaper pods later, but these would only be cheaper when made in volume.

@AR-zq9hq

3 жыл бұрын

@@Seehart all hail Elon!

That was interesting. I was curious to see how this would work. Will it be successful? I think a lot of people will want to use it as it is another unique/novelty/curiosity of Las Vegas. I think it will be limited in the numbers of passengers it can carry per hour, but that may be all they need as others will get around on foot. Was it a terrible idea? No, but I think it was a silly idea. The road beds seem to be bumpy. Will the vehicles be operated with Tesla's Autopilot System in the future? And one more thing: why didn't Tesla paint these cars in a special, unique color, perhaps with awesome artwork or graphics? Thanks Shawn!! 👍

Regardless of success or failure, the Vegas tunnel project will is a big win in terms of learning for the Boring Co. I wouldn’t be surprised if they use this as a test case for their autonomous taxi service.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

The future is going to be interesting.

How long do you think it will take for someone to smash into that divider wall?? Thank you for another great video.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I’m sure an accident will happen. They had been testing for months and I didn’t notice any scratches though. And I was looking. 😂

How many passengers do they put in a car? Do they fill up the cars? How do they deal with luggage?

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

3 passengers per car. 2 in the back and one in the front passenger seat. This is for the convention center so no luggage although you can take any backpacks or other small bags you have with you into the car.

@planets9102

3 жыл бұрын

@@Milestomemories Just put a tram in there 100 times more ppl per vehicle and no tire wear or battery wear and way less rolling resistance. Not to mention you need 100x less drivers.

@BallerDan53

3 жыл бұрын

@@planets9102 Nah, disco taxis are where it's at. Vegas needs more gimmicky tourists traps.

How are breakdowns, flat tires and/or fender benders attended to and removed if needed? The tunnel is very narrow and there’s no service lane!

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

No service land, but they have a vehicle that can tow out the cars if they break down. Each driver is also trained to drive the tunnels in reverse so they can back out any vehicles stuck behind a blockage.

@checkoutmyyoutubepage

3 жыл бұрын

@@Milestomemories where is the smoke going to go if there is a fire? Tunnel fires are very dangerous.

@labu5605

3 жыл бұрын

@@checkoutmyyoutubepage I guess it has a System to "pump" the smoke out just like in modern buildings

@MyEyesBled

3 жыл бұрын

@@labu5605&Luis S

@labu5605

3 жыл бұрын

@@MyEyesBled I've discussed this under another Video quite in Detail. If you look closely you can see emergency exits on the sides and I'm pretty sure that you can find some vents too. I think it says on the Website that the loop has a fire supression or at least a smoke venting system

Wow, they really reinvented subways by making it less cost efficient. Visionary of our times, people.

3 hours and 65 rounds? I’d be dizzy as all heck. What are their breaks?

Before they had the third hall you could take a golf cart between the first two and many people walked.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah good point. But the West Hall probably adds another 10 minutes of waking to that end to end. It was probably the time for a system and I personally agree with their choice but others think it should have been something else.

Can't wait the the guided tour of the abandoned "loop" and Raiders Stadium in 10 years when the Raiders bail on the city and everyone is tired of buying Elon Musk Snake Oil.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Let’s hope not.

@zoidburg2975

3 жыл бұрын

Snake oil?! What the fuck are you talking about?!

@sarowie

3 жыл бұрын

@@zoidburg2975 if this was a subway tunnel, it could transport way more people and it would be safer. Note that even if we assume that nothing "really bad will ever happen": even just waiting for an hour for a Boring Employee to get a car in front of you get unstuck because of reason is uncomfortable.

@nblade66

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarowie I think these tunnels are far less expensive than a subway system (which is part of why they are so narrow, cost goes up very quickly as a tunnel gets wider). Obviously there are better solutions if cost isn't taken into account. I remember reading about it somewhere, but I don't know the exact cost comparison off the top of my head.

@vegasmando5307

3 жыл бұрын

@@zoidburg2975 you must be the type of person who buys the snake oil from this centurie's greatest con artist

Question the is there always a driver in the car and the driver is actually driving or is it fully autonomous. Even though there's a driver there for backup like is he still using the self-driving system or as a driver actually driving? 🤔

Yo man good realistic review. I think it has promise too but there are definitely some hurdles to overcome. They gotta get them going faster and running on autopilot. 30 miles per hour is not gonna cut it. They also may have to make some sort of van that has higher capacity and is specifically for this purpose. Then we're basically talking about a subway. I guess the grand vision has the tunnels integrating into the existing road system so having cars instead of a true subway would make sense. But that's got a long way to go.

OK, somebody help me here. We are taught to do things on the right. We drive on the right. We typically walk to the right. So why do you go to the left on these escalators (8.00 on the video)? It is the same with the moving walkway in front of the Venetian although I thought that might be to give it an Italian feel.

@kidtrunks2568

3 жыл бұрын

Italians drive on the right side like Americans.

@donnamanitu8673

3 жыл бұрын

That was a bad oversight for the designers. It won't be long before they are switched.

@rich6784

3 жыл бұрын

@@kidtrunks2568 I did not know that. Is all of Europe right side or does it switch from country to country?

@labu5605

3 жыл бұрын

@@rich6784 Every country besides the UK drives on the right in Europe...

@rich6784

3 жыл бұрын

@@labu5605 Thanks for the info. I've been to England and just assumed that the rest of Europe was the same.

$50 million is super cheap for what Vegas got! Plus, how short of a time it took to build. Viva Las Vegas!! The new Purple Line Extension in Los Angeles is supposed to cost $9.3 billion and only goes about 9 miles. It has three sections. Voters approved it in 2008, and section 2 is proposed to be done in 2025 and Section 3 has no competition date yet. So that’s $9.3 billion for 9 miles in probably over 9 years! Way to go @boringcompany and @elonmusk! #vegas

@josephmora5230

3 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind a subway is more than just this BORING ass cement shoe box in the ground. A subway station actually has retail, bathrooms, security, multi-levels, etc and has to maneuver miles and miles of pre-existing structures. LA is an older and BIGGER city than Vegas. Never mind has earthquakes, so it has to be up to code too.

@reinerw.1158

3 жыл бұрын

Except a Subway can actually be used as public transport unlike this. How do people think less than one mile in 1,5 years is fast?

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

@@reinerw.1158 The Boring Co. is researching how to dig one mile per week; give them time, this is their first project. If they achieve that, it will be even cheaper than this LVCC Loop, which was $50M for 1 mile of 2-way tunnel and 3 stations. A comparable 1-mile subway would probably be over $1B, and would be impossibly expensive to extend to the LV Strip. Subways are also more expensive to operate and maintain.

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephmora5230 Overbuilding a system for 100x more money is not wise sir. Loop is simply a smarter, more efficient, cheaper system for 99% of the word's cities.

@reinerw.1158

3 жыл бұрын

@@charliedoyle7824 no, they are not more expensive to run, but yes they are more expensive to build. If you can dig this cheap, use it for a cheap subway, not for taxis in tunnels with minimal capacity and safety concerns

Turds in tunnels. What a game changer there muskrats. Truly your messiah will lead us into the future.

@Milestomemories

2 жыл бұрын

Vegas has probably already received more than $50M in press coverage of this system admittedly.

do the drivers engage auto steer ?

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. Total manual control.

Just imagine, with AI having milliseconds reaction time the cars can be way closer to each other in the tunnel, like one meter apart.

@oasntet

3 жыл бұрын

Or you could physically link the cars and drive them with a central computer system...

@johntheux9238

3 жыл бұрын

@@oasntet Decentralized systems are the future. Look at how swarm intelligence works.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I can't wait until this tech becomes a reality.

@mangalores-x_x

3 жыл бұрын

Cars aren't the issue, size of tunnels for proper evacuation are (aka if you have 10 cars stacked behind each other) given it is narrower than a single lane. Particularly should you have a lithium fire the firefighters need to get at.

@johntheux9238

3 жыл бұрын

@@mangalores-x_x Just need to drive in reverse.

Trust me, the Convention Authority could have spent this $50 million on worse projects, easily. This works for taking people around the Convention Center easily, and it introduces new technology that can be adapted for different needs down the road. The test seemed to go well in meeting the number of people transported per hour, but it will not meet that goal once the system goes live. Once conventioneers start using these, they will be slower at the loading/unloading process, as they lug their electronic devices and other things along in backpacks, carryon bags and the like. I wonder how much the system will slow down as conventioneers accidentally leave cell phones or other items behind when they exit the cars. 😁 And, of course, I want to see if there is any problems should there be a rainstorm or earthquake. I think this was a worthwhile project. If LV decides to do a downtown-Strip-airport connector, they need to modify this into more of a LRT clone with electric buses 🚌 containing space for seating and luggage. It would have to run about every 15 - 20 minutes to allow enough loading/unloading time. And, of course, good luck controlling costs. Did you win the flamethrower? If so, Mark will never argue with you again. 🔥

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ann. Great insight. I didn't win anything. Mark will get his way for now. :(

@robertw477

3 жыл бұрын

This is like the dumb monorail. History repeats itself.

@zygbeee8563

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertw477 its more like a dumb brt

Awesome~!

Wow, the continuity is ... quite choppy. Is there any chance of an uncut/clean video of the driving runs all the way from South to West + West to South? This would be really useful for mapping on OpenStreetMap.

What about handicap and wheelchair accessibility? The wheelchair cab availability in Vegas is minimal and wait times are hours. Just tired of the disabled population still being ignored in transportation, didn't see any wheelchair users in line either.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I am hoping to get more info on this next week at the opening, but they do have some vehicles that are for handicap people but as far as I could tell they don't accommodate wheelchairs. I am wondering if they will be running an alternative above ground shuttle for the disabled, but again I will confirm.

I like you am a little skeptical about the ability to meet the challenge of moving the masses that will soon be attending conventions. I think Las Vegas missed a chance to invest in an above ground shuttle right down the strip. Maybe the taxi and metro bus influence is still to strong to propose that type of solution.

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

LV already has a monorail down the strip, with about 7 stations, from north of the convention center to near the airport. One of the stations is right next to the middle Loop station. LV Monorail has gone bankrupt twice, and is a boondoggle that will eventually be taken down, replaced by the Strip Loop.

@petitkruger2175

3 жыл бұрын

a monorail is the worst kind of public transit if Las Vegas has invested in a elevated metro/ light railway above the strip, we wouldn’t have all this tunnel shenanigans and have a better transit system in the first place

@charliedoyle7824

3 жыл бұрын

@@petitkruger2175 How is an 'elevated light rail' any different from a monorail? They are both trains, have train stations, are on elevated track, and cost a lot to build.

@petitkruger2175

3 жыл бұрын

​@@charliedoyle7824a monorail is different from an elevated metro. its harder to evacuate, costs more as its uncommon, doesn’t have a as such a wide array of vehicles to buy from compared to elevated metro and cant hold as much people per train. check this video out by nandert: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qn6YxKWghs6uY9o.html -it compares a monorail plan to a metro plan for a high capacity line that needs to be built

If they only had TWO stations: 1 car with 3 passengers (4 later on if they can get autonomous) has to enter the tunnel every 5 seconds in order to hit the 4400 per hour. That assumes equal traffic each way - 2200 per hour in each direction. That’s 36 people per minute in each direction. Or 12 3-passenger cars per minute in each direction. Or one 3-passenger car every 5 seconds, in each direction. But, they have three stations and I don’t know how to calculate it with 3 stations but the necessary rate of cars moving into a tunnel would be lower as now some movement through the tunnel would have a stop and unload/load and be considered as carrying 6 passengers. It seems like they are easily putting cars into the tunnels at 1per 5 second rate. The bottleneck could not just be passenger entry/exit, but the limited parking at the stations. They could use some more parking spots at each one.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

The math is tough, but we should know soon. It is in their contract that they have to deliver on that capacity number or they face some financial penalties. I believe we'll see the data either way, but I'd be shocked if they could squeeze anything more out given the system they have now. They were running it like a machine.

I don't mean to sound rude but I was hoping to see a continuous video but it was all over the place, I do appreciate your effort and I'm thankful.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I am considering doing a video of just straight through rides, but the idea of this was to be an edited tour. I will be back filming the system next week so hopefully look for that video with straight ride throughs soon.

When does the autonomy take over? I figured a closed loop like this should be easy for autopilot.. plus when do we get the speed increase?

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

No word on when autonomy will take over. I think autopilot struggles with the tunnels.

I noticed that this is only with Human interaction on the driving. interesting enough that the Autopilot is not engaged..

How much does it cost to try out? Ill be there in a few weeks and want to go if its not crazy expensive

@labu5605

3 жыл бұрын

As he said in the Video it's going to be free but I guess only for visitors of the convention center

If they're going with cars there should be a self-test-drive option and a wider selection of models, get some Chevy Bolts, Nissan Leafs and Ford Mach E's...

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Autonomous vehicles is the plan but this is what they have for now. The system is built by Boring which is a sister company to Tesla so that is why that happened.

Wait, the cars have human drivers and are not autonomous? Why exactly is this interesting? Love your channel tho. Keep up the great work!

@flinx

3 жыл бұрын

By the end of this year autonomous operation is expected.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

No other system exists like this, but the interesting part is the future promise and not what is there today. Today it is using off the shelf tech, but the promise is a system that uses smaller pod like autonomous vehicles and travels around to any of the major tourist destinations.

@PsychoticEwok

3 жыл бұрын

@@Milestomemories um subway and metro systems? There's nothing new about this it's grossly inefficient compared to other tunnel transport systems and the tunnels have no way to escape when one of those cars crashes people are going to die in those tunnels

@flinx

3 жыл бұрын

@@PsychoticEwok nope the fire department approved and tested a comprehensive safety plan. Just because some youtubers and techcrunch either haven't read or reported those details doesn't mean their snark and derision is accurate. Outside of NY, how's that subway efficiency working at getting drivers to stop driving? It mostly isn't. If a future metropolitan area reduces average energy usage per trip of ALL people, that's superior to a comparable metro area that still has so many people doing energy inefficient trips in trucks and SUVs and average energy usage per trip is higher.

@PsychoticEwok

3 жыл бұрын

@@flinx urban planning is how you reduce emissions and raise efficiency The vast majority of American cities are based on a car centric approach and mass transit is an after thought. Look at European cities if you make mass transit easily accessible people will use it a small tram system in that tunnel would be vastly superior to a bunch of cars driving on tarmac

Tunnels: Good idea. Cars: Bad idea. An automated subway type train would be more practical.Fun: yes. Practical: No.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

No doubt a train would have been better. Much more expensive though so we'll see how this goes.

@2nd3rd1st

3 жыл бұрын

This is what, a 5 minute ride end to end? A train with all the infrastructure would take ages to build and be overkill in effort and cost.

@checkoutmyyoutubepage

3 жыл бұрын

@@2nd3rd1st or maybe extend the monorail to an underground station.

@labu5605

3 жыл бұрын

Well, the idea is to have a huge system throughout the whole City in which the passengers can choose where to go and skip all other stations. Trains would be more expensive and you would have longer loading times at stations as it isn't worth it using a whole Train for 5 people

@bobhalstead4660

3 жыл бұрын

@@labu5605 Imagine replacing existing subways (Like in NYC) with cars carrying 2 people at a time? The plan in Vegas is to go all over - not just the convention center.

What is The word when they’re going to go autonomous or are they going to keep people employed for a while which is cool nothing wrong with that.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

No time frame on autonomous. For now it is drivers and that probably won't change for awhile.

how do they charge the vehicles?

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

They have a place where the cars stay when the system isn't in use and that is where they are charged.

I think a subway train carries more people.

@edvaira6891

3 жыл бұрын

However, it cost less than $50 million for the entire one mile system...a subway would’ve cost well over $150 million a mile

@1ndragunawan

3 жыл бұрын

Boring Company and Tesla could make dedicated bus and attach them together to make a long train, in which each segment could detach and go on their own separate way, but that would need development money. Elon's business ethic and preference as an engineer makes him willing to shell out billions for RnD but Elon still need a customer, and if the customer doesn't want high density transportation system, I don't think they will bother to develop it, unless it is essential for the future of the company.

@abd-zf2gm

3 жыл бұрын

@@edvaira6891 that because this tunnel is way smaller than a subway, not to mention there are zero safety measures. It basically impractical for human use.

@jeffreysmith4586

3 жыл бұрын

While a Subway train definitely carries more people, hence has a higher capacity, it's the cost compared to the capacity that really stands out. A Subway would cost at least three times as much per mile. This tunnel can also easily be expanded with two more lanes allowing for a higher capacity. Also this system is a direct system. In a Subway if you want to go from point A to point C, you are forced to stop at station B which takes longer. With this system, you can bypass station B and go straight to C.

@merkypokoberky2771

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreysmith4586 Well, if you spend 3 times as much, but you can move 10x the amount of people....

Ugh. Looks like an overgrown claustrophobic MRI.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

You aren't the only person who made the MRI comparison. It didn't feel like that but I can see it from the video.

This will probably help LVCC. But in the long term, I cannot see how a shuttle from the airport would work, or even be practical using Teslas and tunnels. This definitely looks to me, like a big promo for Tesla. Scalability is the big issue. I cannot see any narrow tunnel thing with cars in it, solving transportation problems in LV.

@1flash3571

3 жыл бұрын

that is why you don't have a company. Your vision has no imagination. Imagine having these tunnels all over (underground) and having access points within the city. Elevator takes you underground and the car or a passenger vehicle is waiting for you. It takes you throughout the city at various points near your destination. You only need only 6 or 10 major inlet or outlet with other stop points with elevators that goes from the top to the tunnels. No need for escalators which takes up large space. Just need a elevator type booths on the ground. You get in, and go below. Take the vehicle to where you are going and go out the same way using elevator. DIRECT transportation to your destination. Better than a rail system with only few stop points.

@coreysuffield

3 жыл бұрын

the original vision for a fully city loop is to have an array of tunnels running along side one another like 2x2 or 3x3 running along the main line then diverging off to different end stations

How far below ground are the tunnels?

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

The tunnels are 30 feet underground and the Central Station is at the same depth.

Great advert for Tesla vehicles. Getting bums in the seat of a Tesla will lead to more customers for Tesla once people experience riding in an electric car.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Tesla has to be happy for sure.

@AckzaTV

3 жыл бұрын

no it wont no one can afford them. sorry. tesla wont be selling cars anyway just stock. youll use their ubers liek a slave and you wont be allowed to drive wneyeher. tesla is centralized with no fucking intent to decentralize., tesla will fail and companies like ford will be given the federal money tesla has been getting through the fake stock market. elon is being set up to fail and be a big scapegoat. mars is a scam. tesla is a scam. its all just the federal reserve prointing money and laundering it through stonks and tesla bro.

Cars in tunnels , what a concept. Remember the dig in Boston? Highways underground are not a new concept. Light rail underground would seem more efficient for this. Stopping at the first open spot? Hate to be the people in the last spot.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the first open spot thing is an issue waiting for a solution. As for underground rail the cost would have been quite a bit more. I'm willing to give this system room to grow and at the very least Vegas has a unique attraction for $50M.

@pebmets

3 жыл бұрын

@@Milestomemories I am looking at this as Vegas paid $50 million to help advertise Teslas. I believe many people will use the tunnel just to see what it is like to ride in a Tesla . A small handful will end purchasing one from the experience and Musk would have paid nothing for this advertising.

@seanz6586

3 жыл бұрын

You build a solution for the needed requirements. Do you know how much the big dig cost? 24 BILLION dollars. Overkill don’t you think?

@pebmets

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanz6586 The LV loup is only 0.8 miles at a cost of $52 Million and is basically a one lane loup. The Big Dig is a multi lane highway at about 8 miles each way and comes out to 161 lane miles, about $150 Million per lane mile. There were many issues digging under Boston, moving existing infrastructure, some land acquisition, leaks, etc. Granted it is three times higher, but I would argue that it is serving it's purposes more than what Musk came out with at the convention center. Also one is a self contained system vs a major artery that goes to and from Boston. Musk promised 4,000 passengers per hour at 135 MPH, that is what he said. He is a little short of that. Putting Teslas in there is great marketing for Tesla, but it is not what I call a sophisticated transit system. Again, tunnels are not new so Musk and company did not do anything revolutionary. If he ever completes his plan for a more complex Loup system in LV, come back and tell me how much it cost.

When a larger Tesla Van is finally revealed, these tunnels will fit a lot more people, & make a lot more sense. Speed is not only about mph.

@kevinbosma4047

3 жыл бұрын

people with roofboxes on vacation are crying.....

@kevinbosma4047

3 жыл бұрын

and also tesla semi cant fit in the tunnels lol

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

The promise of future hardware is what makes the dream of this system interesting. You're right that larger vehicles with automation will make this system, but I also understand why people don't like it given that right now it is just Teslas through tunnels with drivers.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbosma4047 Roof Box or not, you can't drive your own vehicle in these tunnels.

Look amazing.

I think it’s a great starting point.

I always find it funny the differences between American English and British English. Americans talk about the loop while over here a bus lane will do.

Just need some extended passenger vehicles maybe van style with double wide falcon doors for a extra row of seating.

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

I can't wait to see how the system evolves, but I have to think getting bigger vehicles is a priority as they plan the wider system.

Wheelchair accessible vehicles?

@Milestomemories

3 жыл бұрын

Not at this time. I am assuming they have some above ground shuttles, but when I attend the press event I'll try to get that exact info.