I see three ways Vashtorr has of getting past the noctilith. 1) Rely on mortal allies utilizing the power of faith => Word Bearers 2) An army of robots and/or Dark Mechanicum 3) His interdimensional plot engine

Vashtorr is on a path to become a deity and I hope we see a rise of The Dark Mechanicum, The Arkifane VS The Silent King could be a great match up, this rivalry could be epic

@ashtonshephard3852

6 күн бұрын

Imagine the aeldari humans and some necron factions have to unite for survival. Trazyn would still just steal shit

@sirmythos8854

6 күн бұрын

​@@ashtonshephard3852 he would have a pleasent time. Either loot stuff for his gallery, or "aquire" new conquests from his latent tomfoolery

The silent King has the perfect secret weapon vs Vashtor and its called a shard of the void dragon or possibly reaching Mars and Releasing the rest of the void dragons form.

I hear people regularly say warp is "untouchable" and cannot be effected by Necrons. If it was completely unknowable by science, why various kinds of imperial warp tech work at all? If warp was fundamentally different, nothing made by non-warp entities would work there. Not to mention Necron stuff that completely cuts it off. I remember people Magnus end up with who people call "mages" were calling themselves scientists.

@epicwaba6424

5 күн бұрын

@@randomdude8202 Perhaps whoever is saying that simply means that the warp is a fundamental part of reality. That is true. You can suppress if with things like Blackstone, but it cannot be destroyed or gotten rid of completely.

@randomdude8202

5 күн бұрын

@@epicwaba6424 well, warp is technically a parallel dimension, and to be able to destroy it you need something that can destroy an universe. And that is unlikely since it would be a cheesy move by writers. But still, I am quite sure it can be manipulated by conventional means, enough to tame it the same way the real space is tamed by necrons.

I like that scene where Cawl was like "beep boop bop, I delete that spot" in the nexus causing vashtor to show up and him going like "YOOOO"

"Wisdom-knowledge?" 😂 Yes yes, Man-Thing is finally starting to know-understand!

"the problem is the network has the effect of turning the imperial populace within into mindless husks" So... Business as usual according to the administratum?

@matiasyannuzzi9655

5 күн бұрын

Mindless husks that refuse to move or do anything to keep living, much less do any of the work requi- err, I mean, *demanded* by the Administratum. The Adeptus Terra doesn't like it when their mindless husks become *unproductive*

I had suspected this was how the narrative would go. The Nephilim effect covers a huge area. Vashtor vs the Silent King should be interesting.

i see it being a stalemate. they're not going to have wormwood be destroyed yet. They're not going to kill the silent king and doubtful to have full scale L. I think we all dread that they fight eachother to exhaustion and the imperium comes in plot armor blazing and defeat them both since we've seen it many times before...

I read the title as "Can Szarekh top him?" and if that ain't a freudian slip... 😅

@lupiniii6868

5 күн бұрын

Not sure if many would even see it, nice catch though lol

@jvsjoranjvs

2 күн бұрын

That might spel the end of the universe.

I hope they make Vashtorr a legitimate threat, I personally think he is a cool concept

@Subject_Keter

6 күн бұрын

100% all the other Choas Gods are so like meh, but Vashtorr got that spark to whip them in line and make things happen.

@sirmythos8854

6 күн бұрын

Mabye this will give some Iron warrior stuff soon with this. What other chaos marine would fight with a warp demon of smiths. I hope so

The Vault = full functioning STC

This is probably for table top, but this could be a great set up for Mechanicus II especially considering you will also be able to play as Necrons in that new game.

As the silent king reveals his secret weapons, orikan and trazyn 😂

I suppose it's one of those scenarios of whether or not Szarekh takes Vashtorr seriously enough. If the Silent King shows up in even close to full force, he'd decimate Vashtorr just through sheer fire-power alone. Vashtorr needs ro avoid that long enough to get past a point of no return of he's screwed. If Szarekh takes rhe threat of Wormwood seriously from the start, I'm not sure what Vashtorr could really do to stop the Silent King.

If Vashtorr's powers can corrupt the Necrons despite them being inert to the Warp, then I see no reason why the Warp couldn't affect the T'au (beyond the obvious stuff like doombolt-to-the-face or Nurgle farting in their general direction).

Even if the Silent King could stop Vashtorr, GW favoritism and incompetence won’t let it happen.

@michaellee1244

6 күн бұрын

It's not favoritism. It's that no side can ever win. GW has to ensure that the most all the factions can do is fight to a draw. If the war ever ends then the sales go away. So no faction can ever get a clean win over another.

@MaticustheRed

6 күн бұрын

​@michaellee1244 Right? Not a lot of point in a table top War Game if factions keep getting taken out of play.

@epicwaba6424

6 күн бұрын

Goddamn, people fucking HATE Chaos factions huh? Especially if they ever win anything.

@headlibrarian1996

6 күн бұрын

@@michaellee1244 Vashtorr isn’t the Chaos faction by himself. I’m not sure he even represents the Chaos gods at all, he seems like an independent Chaos entity to me. Saying you can’t stop Vashtorr is saying no individual Chaos champion can be stopped.

@georgijcaikovskij5623

6 күн бұрын

@@epicwaba6424 Dude, Chaos wins every time ,lol. What are you talking about?

Would be funny if Vashtorr turned out to be Malcador in disguise.

i love vashtorr i want my boy to become a new god

I want a 5th chaos god lol

I can agree with you about the Silent King deserving the win. But I decided a long time ago that I'm on team Perturabo-- and he's on team Vashtorr, so...go Chaos, I guess?

Honestly, they really should write a full major novel book staring Szarekh. Imo Necron novels have been the best of 40K in recent memory.

@dr.michaelmarx3085

Күн бұрын

Damn straight.

So am I right in thinking vashtor is slaneshes replacement?

After the travesty of the 9th edition lore I'm hoping for a serious Necron W here. They are more then capable of dealing with this pompous upstart godling.

You are so close to seeing the full plan Rho. Just one or two more connections and you will see it.

Their big confrontation would be a good chance for the storm lord to sabotage and potentially overthrow the silent king.

A new c tan model that looks like vasqudor

Wait, you mean we'd get content where the xenos would shine and humanity or Space Marines wouldn't have any part? That doesn't seem like GW at all... but I want it to happen. 😎

Rebuild the world engine. This time cancel the plot armour and make it's shields stand up to a space marine strike cruiser crashing into it.

My money is on the Silent King any day of the week.

What would a Vashtorr victory look like? His "victory" against the Dark Angels seemed anti-climatic.

I don't not think Vashtorr will be successful in his goals, so The Silent King have a good chance of defeating him or at least forcing Vashtorr into a retreat.

@georgijcaikovskij5623

6 күн бұрын

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I hope you understand that any demon only used self-avatar in the real space because all of them are concepts.

Let’s see, the SK is millions of years old, owned the ctan, has tech from the necrons at the height of their power, and can create blackstone that can shut down the warp. My money is on him

@sirmythos8854

6 күн бұрын

We might get a truly epic Necron win here. Mabye even a new Trazyn figure

@georgijcaikovskij5623

6 күн бұрын

My money that Chaous can win 101/100 any scenario but its want endless war (simple because of endless food). SK millions of years are not matter because every demon existed befoure the time (Warp has no time or space concepts. Even 4-God existed and done something to the universe befoure even born,lol). C'tan obviously a way weaker that 4-Gods simple because 4-Gods are trans-dimentional beings and not something that bigger that star,lol. No, necrons tech in reality is only C'tan knowledge of the universe and it powers aka laws and in the same time every demon is a concept. For example Vashtorr is a knowledge or science (but in an evil way) so he litterally know everything that C'tan or any races known, he only need energy aka power source to create what he want. And demons can destroy blackstone , so? The main diffirence that demons have infinity resourcess and time and Silent King - no, because of diffirent dynastys, that want kill him or desobey, Imperium re-create their formal glory and Tyranids main fleet. P.s You forgot that Necrons is a small fraction and never be united because 95% of them are already broken or become insane after 60 millions years of sleep. Necrons today and Necrons 60 M ago are not the same force.

@wereshem-ankh9063

5 күн бұрын

@@sirmythos8854 - Trazyn rocks up out of nowhere and "acquires" a soundly defeated Vashtorr for his museum. lol

GW’s incompetent writing will make it so somehow Vashtorr can control necrons or something stupid

@georgijcaikovskij5623

6 күн бұрын

Your incompetency can't understand that any demon or hight demon like Vashtorr are concepts or simple put quantum entities. For them *hack* human brain, machine frame or necron programs are the same - litterally objects like mirrors for interaction with the real world.

*Trashtor

The real question is "can the warp spawn survive the king?"

We know GW will make Chaos win😂 they been doing since the creation of warhammer. But Chaos can't accept that GW favors them the most and gives them stupid plot armor. While they slobber all over the GW meat

The silent King is so evil. He even named his evil plan something balls hard for Humans to pronouce. Nephlimoalomony

GW made the Necrons so powerful they cant afford to put any money bringing faction against them.

Second early.

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@darklight8713

6 күн бұрын

Just remember, only angels may fly. Be happy sanguinius aint around to beat them traitors in line.

The Necrons have always been the custodians of this galaxy.

@georgijcaikovskij5623

6 күн бұрын

The iron idiots were the main problem of this galaxy since the day 1 ,lol.

@ThePaeppa

5 күн бұрын

As a Necron fan - We ruined this galaxy and we're fucking proud. It's the ruins of our temper tantrum that your little civilisations wallow in

The silent King wins

Wait... A progressive plot? In 40k? Involving xenos in a key role? Not in this lifetime!

If the Silent king can pull this off the primarchs don't stand a chance. And the Eldar beat the Neceon but get knocked over by the imperium on the regular?

@rubric-eo5yj

6 күн бұрын

yeah well Eldar would have been exterminated by the necrons along with the old ones had not the silent king decide to fight against their c'tan gods and shatter them.Since the necrons took heavy loses fighting against literal warp gods and gods of reality silent king decided that the necrons would go to sleep and wake up after you know the eldar F themselves.So overall necrons accomplished pretty much everything they set out to do

@georgijcaikovskij5623

6 күн бұрын

Eldar beat only their own asses ,lol. The Necrons stomped Old Ones and after this they stomped K'tans. Space elfs only fighs vs several dynastys when other already went to sleep.

now the imperium wants to save its citizens!