Breaking the vertebrae is different from severing the spinal cord.

@MRMOTOFOTO

3 жыл бұрын

Correct...I drove home with a broken back (L1 vertebrae) and could walk....I wasn't paralyzed, just in extreme agony.

@highintensitypersonaltrain3605

3 жыл бұрын

@@MRMOTOFOTO thats sounds so f**king painful. I hope you made a good recovery.

@MRMOTOFOTO

3 жыл бұрын

@@highintensitypersonaltrain3605 yea happened long time ago when I was 19...almost 50 now. Full recovery with no issues, knock on wood

You can often stand on a broken back. It means you broke the bone but the nerves are not damaged, yet. It's no different than the neck and countless wrestlers break their necks. Angle no only could stand he won the gold medal with a broken neck.

@weworldwide1348

5 жыл бұрын

that's why his neck looks so weird?!?

@ayewhaddupdoe

3 жыл бұрын

*broken FREAKIN neck

@Baydzone

Жыл бұрын

BROKEN FREAKIN NECK!!!

I like Vader but his stiffness DID hurt people at times.

@shangtsung1362

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Vader

@FreshTake01

3 жыл бұрын

So was Goldberg

@themaddogofcrenshaw7367

2 жыл бұрын

@@FreshTake01 Goldberg's case is a bit different

So he’s a dr with X-ray vision now.... you can walk with a broken back....

Everyone in shoot interviews say he was stiff and dangerous. Hurt alot of guys.

Huh, I saw Joe not long after that happened and he was walking, but he had a body cast from his hips to the top of his chest and he had to wear it for like 6 months and he never wrestled again so someone forgot to tell his doctor that his back wasn't broken.

@grawakendream8980

4 жыл бұрын

How's Joe doing these days?

@jamesrender3464

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yea people have walked into hospitals with broken necks.I was in a motorcycle accident back in 2012.Brought in a ambulance and 4 hours later walked out.I couldn't hardly get out of bed the next day.Over all had $50.000 in doctor bills.

@chuckhelton9537

3 жыл бұрын

I had to do the same to bad he didn't care about hurting the guy .... Maybe he would have lived longer

@Ultradude604

3 жыл бұрын

Still not exactly not a swedish massage!

@PGAC22

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesrender3464 You poor Yanks no free health care 😢

Just got to look at Vader' punches to see the guy is stiff. You can literally hear his hand smacking their head and he would do it over and over again. I remember one night on Raw he had a match with Yokozuna and you can see Yoko snap at one point and start giving him stiff punches back.

I believe Leon actually did feel really bad about the Joe Thurman situation. On Kayfabe Commentaries "Ringside with Vader" he came really damn close to breaking down about it and admitted that it was the one thing in his career that he regretted the most. And he was absolutely thrilled when he was informed that Thurman had gone on to become a Police officer in Georgia.

@savagetabby4931

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah he felt so bad about it that he started smirking as he described what happened. 1:10 Look. I thought Vader was awesome too and had quite a career. Even got into acting and did a great job. But, as we get older, the more we learn about the people we admire and the closer we get to truly Knowing them.The dude seems to be a glorified bully who felt so entitled that he didn't even consider the well being of the people he worked with. Freaking sociopath..He thought his co-workers were beneath him and wasn't worth the effort of him even attempting to wrestle in an appropriate and safe manner. Probably only cried in an attempt to get people off his back about the incident. He probably didnt even give that man a thought let alone a phone call after he left that hospital. I said he was a good actor. Check out boy meets world. -.-

@VeritasAbsoluta

4 жыл бұрын

@@savagetabby4931 Probably because it was 20 years after the fact, it's something he gets asked about a lot, and he knew the guy is fine. I remember watching it on WCW Worldwide when it happened and the commentators saying Vader was verbally abusing him as he pinned him, but I could see he wasn't doing that at all and it was the first time Vader hadn't appeared like a total monster. He looked concerned instead.

@savagetabby4931

4 жыл бұрын

@@VeritasAbsoluta you do have a point. I guess I just assumed that this was the first he spoke of it due to the fact I've never had and his reaction. He just laughed when describing a sensitive topic. I could've understood a laugh of relief at the end when he said he was fine..but whatevs. He was one of my hero as a damn kid!

@theman6705

2 жыл бұрын

@@savagetabby4931 You’re dumb dude. He didn’t even smirk like manically wtf lmaoo you’re reading way to into it. He obviously was relieved and happy that he’s okay.

@robertrodriguez787

5 ай бұрын

​@@savagetabby4931 Hey did anyone force Joe there to become a Wrestler ? This ain't Ballet 🩰 in there and these people know the Risk when they step in the ring

“That’s what we do, we take care of each other.” Prior to that move, he slapped the absolute dog shit out of them. He was clearly taking liberties the whole time.

@eurkzilla2

Жыл бұрын

U don't know what u r talking about

Vader DID legitimately hurt some people...

@MB-oc1nw

7 жыл бұрын

Ripped off mick foleys ear, broke Stings ribs...

@MB-oc1nw

7 жыл бұрын

Scap a rap a doo be doooo Yes it was. Mick hung himself in the ropes, Vader pulled him out and tore his ear to the point it was hanging off and bleeding then vader hit Mick right on the ear with a forearm which severed his ear...it's in Foleys book "have A Nice Day"

@RFSKannon

7 жыл бұрын

Foley lost his ear because Too Cold Scorpio had complained about the ropes "Being too loose" and they were tightened right before the Vader/Cactus match. No one told Foley about it and lost his ear as a result.

@MB-oc1nw

7 жыл бұрын

Scap a rap a doo be doooo Did you watch my link where Vader says it's his fault with a video that clearly shows him hitting Foley in the side of the head and the ear flying off?

@SLoMo4

6 жыл бұрын

True. Foley liked to do that weird bump over the ropes where his head got caught in between the top and middle rope. He chooses to do it and is in control of it.

I remember the Joey Thurman back thing. As I recall, Vader would use that he damaged his back in promos.

@bubbiesdad1792

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, he did use it in promos.

R.I.P. Legendary " Big Van" Vader. I enjoyed watching you wrestle pounding and beating up on your opponents as the big bad wolf character. Was gladly apart of the early 90's era of wrestling during my childhood.

I thought Vader damaged Nikita Koloff's neck with a stiff clothesline and Koloff got a hernia from body slamming Vader? That's the story I've always heard, don't know how much of it is the truth....

Vader was a real wrestler who wrestled with real wrestlers, most US wrestlers wouldn't make it in Japan.

you can stand with a broke back people have lived their whole life with a broke neck

@Vikashar

4 жыл бұрын

Kurt Angle won a gold medal with a broken freakin' neck

@_KingofKingss

4 жыл бұрын

TheWhiteWhale Why

@mattandersonmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@Vikashar it's true it's damn true!

R. I. P. Big Van Vader Is it me or does he kind of look like Thanos?

@rostamaffendi1310

4 жыл бұрын

Back then Vader was thanos in WCW..he destroyed everyone...sting ( captain America ) ric flair ( Nick fury) cactus Jack (hulk) Ron Simmons( black panther) Dustin Rhodes ( Hawkeye) Nikita koloff ( visions) the boss man ( war machine) begwell (spider man) Ricky steamboat ( Starr lord) Rick rude (Loki) and British bulldog (Thor) .....until superman (hulk Hogan) came to save...haha

@andymcfly

3 жыл бұрын

Rostam Affendi lol

I loved Vader, but he seems awfully defensive about these incidents.

@Forgemno

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine being blamed for decades. You'll feel a way

@jeepernj99

Жыл бұрын

We’ll if you literally did hurt these wrestlers being WAY to rough. He deserved being looked at as someone who hurts talent and doesn’t care. Watching that video is horrifying how he threw him down on his shoulders and head

People forget , Turner settled all court claims . It invited bogus lawsuits .

@chucklebutt4470

3 жыл бұрын

Huh, Didn't know that. Makes sense that once that word got passed around that injuries became more serious. More power to them! lol

He really didn't take care of people. He was stiff as shit and often threw guys like he didn't care what happened to them.

@tomtanaka841

4 жыл бұрын

People loved the Steiners for it but Vader always gets shit for that. Double standards.

@timewarpeatscrayons

4 жыл бұрын

He worked stiff as heck, but he could also take what he dished, remember his eye? Hmm?

@timewarpeatscrayons

4 жыл бұрын

@Website guy Vader is the sweetest guy on the earth, he would never want to put ANYONE in harm's way. Please back your statements by facts Hm?

@elmerslick8700

3 жыл бұрын

Vader says they take care of each other...but then wouldn't wash his ring gear for months. He was by far the smelliest wrestler the one time I sat ringside front row. Who wants to wrestle a cement truck filled with barf?

@Anuskasv0

2 жыл бұрын

He was stiff and that's why people liked him. Just like LOD and Steiner Bros.

Rest in Peace, Van.

Vader used the Thurman incident in a promo afterwards.

@RyTrapp0

5 жыл бұрын

Bubbies Dad And Arn Anderson's retirement speech was mocked by Kevin Nash during the NWO era - so what?

did he just snitch?! Insurance fraud is no joke. At least, he added "in my opinion" LOL

A broken back and a spinal cord injury are two different things.

Vader made Thurman humble .

So he worked stiff and probably "potatoed" more guys throughout his career then he was even aware of. However, folks need to realize that the majority of his career was over in Japan. And they are CLEARLY noted for working stiff over there. It's just a different type of pro wrestling style they have. Stan Hansen was no different, John Layfield aka Bradshaw also worked stiff, along with the Dudley Boyz. So i'm quite sure when he returned from his Asia stint and started primarily working in the US. The guys he faced over here just weren't used to that kind of style. OH WELL...!!! Because despite all that he was arguably one of THE BEST big men to ever grace a square circle. Gone but never forgotten...!!! RIP big man.

@andymcfly

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@mikegeiler2347

2 жыл бұрын

I mean he did paralyze Joe Thurman….

@harrykadaras9459

Жыл бұрын

Besides Vader...whom did Stan ever seriously injure? Perhaps he knew Vaders rep and took into to him in that match to teach him a lesson - like Andre did to The Iron Sheik...just an opinion. Maybe I am wrong..I mean, Stan didn't just pop out the eye, he also broke Vaders nose, broke his cheekbone, and broke the eye socket as well..Leon said that damage cost half his paycheck to repair his face after that match...

@scaryanima9268

Жыл бұрын

@@harrykadaras9459 Bruno when he broke his neck.

Lmao Vader is a beast. Even in this interview he looks like he can tear shit up

"I powebombed him like i powerbombed anyone else" Yup, that was the problem..

I broke my back and walked. As others have mentioned, there's a huge difference in a broken back and an injury to the spine.

vader was a beast during wcw days !

In the video you can see Vader checking in on Thurman. The announcers said he was trash talking him lol

Oh i didn't know that vader was a doctor knowing he didn't injure anyone.

He was known to hurt jobbers. Real tough guy to beat up someone 200 lbs lighter.

@kramerkramer9583

6 жыл бұрын

ken7531077 don't like it quit wrestling, full of pussies these days anyway, only a few real men left

@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927

6 жыл бұрын

hbk, is that you?

@sanddune

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they weeded out pussies back then. That was kinda the point. They beat up on guys that weren't tough that had no business being there.

@jonathanhensley6141

3 жыл бұрын

For a long time trainers would beat u up to weed out the weak just look at the snake pit. Vader came from Japan where it's more about wrestling than showmanship. He went up against really stiff competition In missawa. Kobashi as well as others. American wrestlers had to up there game when wrestling in AJPW. RIP Vader

@TheCeedub

2 жыл бұрын

The messed up part is these guys had to let him do this if they wanted to work again.

And he used it in promos afterwards. Thurman never wrestled again.

I loved watching you break those ham and eggers backs. Great brutal wrestler.

oh it's time it's time it's vader time

Leon would make a great Tony Soprano

Strong style spirit Vader-San.....Preach on big man!!

Rick Harrison lookin rough

@jimmyfaustjr6413

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Vader doesn't seem t o realize he was a dangerous wrestler. Bret Hart and Shawn Micheal's both told Vader to stop it as soon as he entered the WWF. Vader was exposed in WWF as a mid card wrestler.

@blacquesjacques7239

7 жыл бұрын

Not at all . Vader was stiff but so was Bret . Truth is that by the time most people made it to the top of the WWE at only 230 or so pounds they were banged up and needed to protect themselves to stay their . Vader , the rhinoceros he was , was also banged up but but could take anything the top guys could dish out while being far more than they could take . Vader was never gonna get over in WWE . But that didn't make him a midcarder as much asmany of the top guys protected pussies .

@kylesmith9944

7 жыл бұрын

Blacques Jacques Les Squacques How many times did Vader headline a PPW in WWF. Not too many!!! He was usually in the mid card.

@blacquesjacques7239

7 жыл бұрын

True but that just meant that WWE had nothing for him not that he wasn't capable .

@kylesmith9944

7 жыл бұрын

"I made the biggest mistake of my life. Maybe Vader time is over. I'm a piece of shit. A big fat piece of shit"

@blacquesjacques7239

7 жыл бұрын

So his confidence was shaken . Remember Ric Flair going through the same thing ? Vader had just fallen out of favor where he was a Wrestling God , for pissing off a mob boss who Inoki answereed to , he needed multiple surgeries , and Hogan and Bischoff practically ran him out of WCW though he was still over . Now he is in the WWF at 60%of his best and yet he was held back by that punk Shawn Michaels . Yeah , he was a little low at the time . Had WWF given him the time off he needed and not made him play patty cake with 190 lbs guys then the sky would have been the limit . Vader time was finished though because he had nowhere else to go .

All you have to do watch his matches, especially with jobers. Super stiff, no trying to take care of guys and make sure they dont get hurt. Vader never seemed to take care of other guys, surprised he didnt get his ass kicked by the boys in the back.

@username-zj9id

2 жыл бұрын

That's why everyone was so happy when Orndorff did it

@harrykadaras9459

Жыл бұрын

@@username-zj9id funny how Vader downplays that one as well...not saying I believe every single word Orndorff said, but I do believe Orndorf won that fight - against a guy twice his size, much younger, and the main fact that Mr. Wonderful was retired and physically half the man he used to be at that point.

Watch the match. Vader performed a sloppy chokeslam & then a sloppy powerbomb on Joe. Both caused him to land high on the neck/back area. The combination of moves definitely took its toll & caused trauma to the back. I didn't see the medical records & his legs were moving however a severe injury was obviously sustained & Vader was the cause. For Vader to say "I didn't xyz" is a lie. He was the one controlling the man's body.

Rectum? Damn near killed em.

If you can't handle the hits get out the ring and go work at McDonalds

@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi

10 ай бұрын

or... if you don't know how to work, get back in wrestling school and learn your craft. It works both ways, broski.

Vader and Sting had some rough matches. You didn't hear Sting crying like a baby owe Daddy beat me up. No these people probably had preexisting conditions anyway. Look at the medical care back then Vader comes along and they run into a brick wall and hurt themselves. Come on none of them took medical care of themselves in those days. A wrestler once said that you could wrestle with injuries and not even know it for day's because of there schedule then be in a match and it comes to a head.

VADER HUTING ALOT OF WRESTLERS IN HIS TIME !!!!

Scary strong

He didn't break his back but vander has been known to be a stiff wrestler.

Its not ballet lol

What's the big deal. Seth Rollins almost ruined the career of Finn Balor and he ruined the career of sting cause of his uncarefull wrestling. Vader just tried to be as intense in the ring as possible, that is what you have to do if you want to steal the spotlight. Atleast Vader cared

People in the comments acting like wrestling isnt suppossed to be dangerous.Thurman knew the chance he was taking the moment he stepped between those ropes. Props to Vader

@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi

10 ай бұрын

It's a work. It's NOT supposed to be dangerous. It's supposed to look real WITHOUT actually hurting each other.

This is way I have so much respect for a guy like Bret Hart who took pride in making sure to make sure his opponents were safe. People don’t realize one of the reasons Bret turned heel in 1997 is because he didn’t want to work with Vader. Vince McMahon gave Bret two lists, one was a list of guys he would feud with if he stayed babyface (Vader, Mankind & Austin) and one was a list of guys he’d feud with if he turned heel (HBK, Undertaker & Austin). He choose the latter to avoid Vader.

@Eierkneifer69

6 ай бұрын

How do you know that?

Joe Thurman.

He shoulda hurt shawn m.

Nothing allegedly about it

I think he devalues the injuries because he is in denial. He psychologically cannot cope with the fact that he injured people. You can see it in his face when he begins talking, he looks agonized. Immediately after stating his opponents were in fact not injured, he smiles. It’s a coping mechanism.

crybabies crying over Vader "hurting" them. this isnt ballet. man up people.

Feeling terrible doesn't make it right! Even in death Vader leaves a disgusting legacy of hurt wrestlers.

@andremoreau8390

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, that's a little harsh. It's not like he was going around murdering people. He may have been stiff, reckless, and maybe even been a bit of a prick about it, but I don't think that's enough for a "disgusting legacy" That's like something reserved for people like Pol Pot and Jeffrey Dahmer, not a big guy who was a little too rough in wrestling matches.

people are wusses lol

Stan Hanson Put Leon in his place when he ripped his eyeball out, I think Leon calmed down after that

@kkhagerty6315

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Anderson Vader never really tried to hurt those guys, he was just a big tough dude who didn’t know his own strength sometimes, I used to have the same problem

@kkhagerty6315

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Anderson I heard interviews where people said the exact opposite