USS Pegasus Concept - Star Trek The Next Generation
A look at the unrealized concept for the USS Pegasus from Star Trek The Next Generation. The Pegasus was that ship fused with a rock. They ended up using an Oberth Class in the episode, but if they had a bit more time and money, we would've gotten a new class of starship.
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Hey, at least this one had a *REASON* to be filled with rocks!
@Vozath
2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@CromeDomeOmega
2 жыл бұрын
Thats why this episode ROCKS!😁
@AnonymousFreakYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@CromeDomeOmega Stone cold truth right there.
@pipikaka3886
2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@deeacosta2734
2 жыл бұрын
💯
We need EC Henry to model this Ambassador hatchback.
@pwnmeisterage
2 жыл бұрын
Was there ever an Excelsior hatchback? Or a Sovereign hatchback?
@ArchOfWinter
2 жыл бұрын
@@pwnmeisterage I think the Curry Type and Centaur type can be considered Excelsior's hatchback. Maybe Luna can be considered as Sovereign's, but the design doesn't look kitbashed enough.
@Voltaic_Fire
2 жыл бұрын
I'll wait for the soft-top version.
@safeguardprime5914
2 жыл бұрын
You could commission him to do it
@fiiral5870
2 жыл бұрын
@@ArchOfWinter Curry-Class definetly looks like Excelsior-Class' compact version (English is not my main language)
We should have a Rock-Awareness-Month to commemorate the countless Starfleet personnel that lost their lives to sediment, great music, Alcatraz and the best wrestler in the Delta Quadrant.
@DanielMReck
2 жыл бұрын
Replace that first comma with the word "to."
@l9day
2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm wondering: if the Federation hooked some engines onto an asteroid to use it as a ship, if there are explosions on board, are the crew showered with kit parts?
@mahna_mahna
2 жыл бұрын
I suggest next month. Rocktober.
@Tony-lc5kc
2 жыл бұрын
The theme song should be "Let It Rock" by Kevin Rudolf and. Lil Wayne
@mahna_mahna
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tony-lc5kc We Will Rock You is a pretty strong contender.
I think we should take a moment for all the rocks who's innocent trajectory's through life are tragically cut short by Red Shirts getting in their way.
@Zeithri
2 жыл бұрын
Yellow Shirts actually ;3
@DrWhom
2 жыл бұрын
too many apostrophes in your comment
@mancamiatipoola
Жыл бұрын
XD
I wish we got this version of the Pegasus because every starship class that's bared the name USS Enterprise NCC-1701 has had a compact variant at some point like the Miranda class, the Centaur class, the Nebula class and the Luna class.
@maxrander0101
2 жыл бұрын
it would be a good idea for a design to add to STO as they have some other ships that are pretty much just this sort of idea of changing one part of the ship to make a new class
@sebastianbenner977
2 жыл бұрын
The Luna class is not a derivative of the Sovereign class, it's its own thing. There is as of yet know 'Miranda' equivalent for the Sovereign class.
@bennyfisher9157
2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianbenner977 Yeah, but it's close enough for my taste.
"The Pegasus" is that episode where somewhere at the end of the 2nd act, Riker goes into the Holodeck and boots up a program of a fine fanfic based on the first Enterprise. If you're interested in Riker's recreational hobby as a Holowriter, they actually made a full series about it. It's called Star Trek Enterprise! On that show you can see what Star Trek might have looked like when the series is focused more on sex and action. A nice diversion like Vic Fontaine and or a Random Irish Village. Thank goodness that wasn't canon, huh? Oh that Riker.
Star Trek engineers should keep everybody's transporter pattern in the memory banks. That way they can beam a new copy in each time a crew member dies. It should be an automatic back-up system that runs every few hours or even minutes, depending on data capacity.
@matthewcaughey8898
2 жыл бұрын
We only do that with yellow shirt security personnel. It helps to keep the death tolls down and helps us to convince more people to join
Imagine spending your whole career in starfleet dodging explosions of rocks, then one day minding your own business and half of your body has materialised in side some. You would be pretty mad.
@scockery
2 жыл бұрын
Space Rock: "I'm about to end this human's whole career."
@jparenti03
Жыл бұрын
That’s why you shouldn’t ever take your safety on a Starfleet ship for granite.
Rocks; whether hit with them, crushed by them, fused with them, or even eaten by them, they are the scourge of the galaxy.
I would love to have seen a new starship designed in the episode.
Ensign: Wow just came out of the Academy. I'm prepared for everything! Starfleet: *ROCKS!*
@SephirothRyu
2 жыл бұрын
Rocks fall. Everybody dies.
@matthewcaughey8898
2 жыл бұрын
I’m still wondering what sort of sadist filled the consoles with rocks. My crew spent days cleaning them out so they didn’t go flying around
Great work as always!
Tech from the Pegasus should have been harnessed and given to every starfleet officer as a personal cloaking device, that way no one would ever die from rocks again...they blow out the console and pass right through!
The one time where having rocks exploding around the ship makes perfect sense.
I read that Jonathan Frakes complained that Paramount was cutting a lot of TNG's budget in season 6 and 7 because they were spending more on DS9. That could explain why they cheapened out on the Pegasus.
Thank you for keeping this channel going.
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
It's viewers like yourself that keeps the channel going. If people stopped watching, it'd sink to the bottom of KZread Recommends algorithm. I appreciate that you keep watching them. Take care.
Reminds me of the fan-made Apollo class. Basically a Nebula style kitbash of the Ambassador class with a (probably) replaceable mission specific pod section just like the Nebula. A really cool design. PS.: this video really ROCKS! 🖖
@somebuddyX
2 жыл бұрын
Nice I wanted to come in and recommend that ship too.
Imagine the relatives which now can be informed. Starfleet office: Im Sorry your loved one is buried under a rock. Relatives: Why are you still putting rocks and high voltage circuits inside the console. SO: No no I meant he is fused with an asteroid.
It's Junkball! I don't know who you are, but you make me happy.
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Glad you like the videos.
@furtherback6131
2 жыл бұрын
@@JunkBallMedia Your videos have been consistently enjoyable. The amount of attentive effort you put into each and every one of them is - especially considering the modest size of your channel - quite astounding. Yours is one of those channels whose output seems effortless, but isn't, of course, if only because of your meticulousness in fact-checking. Or should I say OCD, lol. Anways: thanks a bunch bro, for your quality output. And wonderful sense of humor.
Honestly this is one of the best channels on YT.
Rocks seem to be the natural enemy of every starfleet member and officer.
@darlhiatt8136
2 жыл бұрын
Large rocks even have the ability to short out godhood power ups. Truly something to be wary of.
@Clay3613
2 жыл бұрын
Rocks hurt! They're the enemy of humanity, except James T. Kirk...he climbs them into submission.
very suprised they never gave it a mission specific pod, full of more ROCKS!!!
Happ Star Trek day everyone :D 🖖
I'm surprised you didn't point out that the Enterprise finale "These Are the Voyages..." takes place in the middle of this episode. Riker uses the holodeck to watch Archer in making his decision to turn on Admiral Pressman.
An ship that was actually (half) filled with rocks.
Miss your updates. Hope you return soon!
The Kitt bashing joke continues! *This is the saga I am here for*
@crashmatrix
2 жыл бұрын
Audible sigh from my end, love it.
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's been 4 years since the last one. I'm touched anyone remembers.
@RC2225
2 жыл бұрын
@@JunkBallMedia To cite a famous Star Trek character "No.. No... thats not true... thats impossible!"
@Scripture-Man
2 жыл бұрын
@@JunkBallMedia I'm just disappointed that ALF didn't make an appearance this time. Also, I really miss that fun synth tune you always used to play after the intro. Seems like ages since we heard that!
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scripture-Man I'll see about using it again. I've swapped out a lot of the music recently since I've been using the same songs for years.
Thanks for remembering us and sharing this short video! As you mentioned, it is truly an unusual and challenging time; every little bit of sunshine is much appreciated, even if it simply shines up close from a gentle voice with a talented dry wit.
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. I'm glad the video helps brighten things up a little. I feel the same way about making them.
I wish they had used this model in the show. I think it looks great and I really wish it was in STO someday.
Wow the pegasus was really caught between a rock and a hard place
I have no idea why this channel is not more popular. He has great explanations for things. I will say though that of all the rocks seen on damaged ships, the Pegasus rocks are the most legit.
A new JunkBall Video! [squeals] And there is a KittBash! [starts uttering gibberish] And rocks! [foams at mouth] DS9 tease. [faints] [thud]
The best part of the episode is when Riker casually steps over the corpses of his erstwhile friends and colleagues on the Pegasus.
@voltijuice8576
2 жыл бұрын
But then - Eek! A mouse!
My head canon for the rock debris often seen when ships take damage is that it's refinery slag used as cheap passive radiation shielding. The place we typically see them is the bridge, which has direct outer hull (because the federation has always believed in symbolism over practicality), the primary place for such a shielding material. And since for passive radiation shielding the only thing that really matters is mass, it makes sense that they would simply fill that space with the (presumably rather dense) waste materials from their metallurgy industry. That solves two problems: For one you don't have to ship off as much slag, and secondly your crew has some protection from cosmic radiation even if you lose power for active shielding or the system acts up in other ways.
@robertebersold3817
2 жыл бұрын
Thats actually brilliant.
@matthewcaughey8898
2 жыл бұрын
Defiant and Normandy class ships do not have this as we deliberately sunk the bridge into the ship to make it tougher for a borg ship to cut out
@SKy_the_Thunder
2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewcaughey8898 Not familiar with the Normandy class (and I can't seem to find any details about it?) but the Defiant still has its bridge rater exposed at the top side. It's sunken in and somewhat shielded by a larger rim, but that only reduces the attack angle somewhat. It would be much more practical to have at least another deck above it for protection.
@matthewcaughey8898
2 жыл бұрын
@@SKy_the_Thunder the Normandy came from me. I took the basic defiant form and increased the mass by 25 percent to give more room for additional weaponry. And to give the crew somewhat less Spartan living conditions. I also reduced the crew compliment and added additional redundancies to make it very difficult to stop or even damage. It’s basically a space borne super muscle car ( engine systems are pulled right from a galaxy class and upgraded to allow for serious right on the edge maneuvers and be able to have the amped up structural integrity fields to hold it together. Cloaking tech is a mixture of a reverse engineered Romulan device captured by Jim Kirk and several Klingon units sourced by ferengi traders (( at Utopia Planitia we don’t ask too many questions)). After we proved it worked Starfleet approved 5 additional ships. The USS Berlin , the USS Guadalcanal, USS Stalingrad, USS Britain, and USS Dutch Harbor. We named them for WW2 battles and they’ve all got some degree of war paint. Normandy sports a shark mouth and D-day invasion stripes etc. ( it’s a part of a thing I hope to write called Star Trek the chronicles of Task Force Ghost, a novel of the dominion war)
@brianbauman938
Жыл бұрын
So there not part zen garden feature on ship.
This is my favorite Trek channel. Great writing and editing.
Wow I really wish we got a new ship outta this episode. Especially an Ambassador variant. PS: ROOOOOCCCKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I'm more than happy that we got a new KITT Bashing joke.
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
I has to be years since the last one. I can't believe people remember those. I'm honored.
Brilliant ending... right in the feels man 🥺
What would be awesome is if someone created a 3d model of this prototype design, and rework all the scenes featuring the Pegasus's exterior to include this instead. Maybe also swapping out that display for a 2-nacelle arrangement suitable for this Ambassador's Spouse class.
Oh man, I love the way that ship looks!
I remembered they had put together but not used the MSD for this episode. I guess in my mind I saw the Nova class from Sternbach's Tech Manual as the first choice, but knowing they were kicking around the Cheyenne class is exciting. I've always wanted to see more of that class of vessel, and thought it would have been a better choice than some ships used in various DS9 Dominion episodes.
@chrissonofpear1384
2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the next USS Pegasus (NCC-62301 or higher?) should be Cheyenne-class, then.
In your summary of the episode you forgot to mention how Riker struggled and spent a lot of time on the holodeck playing different parts in a reenactment of some of the NX Enterprise missions
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
I know! I thought about going on some more tangents, but I need to devote time to the DS9 videos. Right now it's a giant blob of notes. 😬
@leocallan3691
2 жыл бұрын
So looking forward to your DS9 videos. Great work, Junkball 🖖
Always something new to learn about Trek history. This makes so much more sense than using an Oberth model
@DGAlpha85
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, using an Oberth makes a lot of sense in-universe when you think about it: When using a lot of experimental and new technology, designing a new ship around all that takes a lot of effort, time end resources, especially when you don't know if all that stuff will work in the first place. So better stuff all the experimental tech on an old hull, especially when said hull is probably scheduled for scrapping in the near future anyways. Sure, that will take a lot of juri-rigging and non-optimal arrangements, probably with a lot of open cables and lines. But ultimately you don't need to run your tech optimally, you just need to see if it runs at all. And as an experimental ship you'll not fly 5-year missions into the unknown, but closely-monitored, short term cruises in safe territory. Also, the chances are high that all this new tech will require a lot of tweaking and refitting, so its better to have an old hull where you don't mind ripping out panels and floors for a few new cables, instead of a brand new ship where you just mit the carpet last tuesday. So yeah, an old ship as a first experimental trials ship makes sense and then, after a few flights, deign a new class with all the things you have learned.
@shininginshadows
2 жыл бұрын
@@DGAlpha85 agree and disagree. The Oberth was an old platform, possibly the oldest platform in service during the 24th century given how low the registry on the Grissom was in ST3. It does make sense to have an existing platform be the testbed for some new technologies, but there were a lot more existing platforms to choose from in the mid-24th century than a ship originally designed in the early 23rd century. On the other hand, there were some proto-Galaxy ships in the Wolf 359 fleet, namely the Freedom and Challenger, that would have also been logical prototype ships even though they weren't existing models. I think a lot of it comes down to the systems being tested: if it's things like weapons and sensors, then yes it makes sense to integrate them into current platforms, but for larger systems like warp drives it might make sense to have a newer test platform (such as the NX-alpha and NX-beta prior to the NX-01).
@calvinnickel9995
Жыл бұрын
@shininginshadows Except that in real life.. this is often the case. The US Navy currently uses a 45 year old Spruance class destroyer as a remotely-controlled “Self-Defence-Test-Ship” to trial new defensive weapons technologies. One of the first US Navy ships to fire a surface-to-air missile in 1953 was the battleship USS Mississippi.. which was commissioned in 1915 during WWI. The nice thing about using old ships is they don’t draw from operational demands that require modern hulls.. they are easier to modify because they can literally be “kit bashed” with crude installations and easily modified configurations that don’t need to meet standards for durability, damage control, redundancy, etc because they will likely only be operated in fair weather, close to port, not in combat, and…… as we see here… if there is an accident or total constructive loss the cost is far cheaper than a newer ship.
@jasonhitchcock4079
Жыл бұрын
The Oberth class made perfect sense... for the bean counters at Paramount. Using a new model would have been out of the question.
Having switched to PADDs for their documentation, and therefore no longer equipped with Paper, starship crew easily succumb to Rock.
It is often joked about when ships take damage, and rocks fly across the scene… But we don’t know… they could be remnants of plasma discharged crystalline backplane for control panels… when phaser or photon torpedo damage hits the area, the crystalline structure could be damaged into rocklike sections… who knows?
Still the best Trek channel. I'll sometimes throw on the Pluto Star Trek episode to let them choose what episode of TNG I'm going to watch and this one came up a few days ago. It's such a great episode. Thanks for giving us some background info on it.
This was excellent...
1:30: "A good episode worth revisiting" *These Are the Voyages intensifies*
@beepthemeep12
2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts
We miss you and hope you're okay.
Yeah I've seen this concept on memory alpha and it's one of my favourite pieces of Star Trek concept art!
Your writing, VO, editing, music, it’s always clever, always entertaining. Great stuff!
Lol oh you're killing me with the rock jokes !!!😆👍
Sooo glad that you're making videos again!
In the expanded universe, this type of ship is what I believe to be the Mediterranean class
Hey! Miss you, Junkball.. hope stuff is good for you 👍 happy new year & looking forward to new content.
Random thought on the Rocks running gag: There's talk of using in-ship organic materials like human waste to line spacecraft walls in upcoming Mars missions to reduce radiation exposure. What if this practice still happens in the future. The Rocks are poo....
@jtrizzle2000
2 жыл бұрын
And you can use the poo rocks for fuel if the warp core goes offline!
@TheDing1701
2 жыл бұрын
Rump rocks.
@Power5
2 жыл бұрын
Is that real? Thought that was just a gag on Avenue 5 space cruise ship.
@charlestaylor253
2 жыл бұрын
Natural Fiber...
What about the part where Riker takes some time off and relives the adventures of the Earth's first warp 5-capable starship in the holodeck?
@Corbomite_Meatballs
2 жыл бұрын
"You know, this dough is hard as a rock!" - line cut from what is likely the worst episode from any Star Trek series.
@mb2000
2 жыл бұрын
As Tasha Yar said “it never happened”.
Junkball please come back.....we love you. :(
Plot twist, the Horta have been at war with Star Fleet for decades, which is why so many ships spontaneously suffer rock-based damage.
@misterlyle.
2 жыл бұрын
Is it a concealed Horta infestation?
That was the rockiest episode. Not only were there rocks on the bridge, the bridge was in a rock. Mind blown. Also K.I.T.T Bashing LMAO
If it had been up to my preference, I would have attached the nacelle pylons to the secondary hull at a flat angle, similar to the Ares class, it would just make more sense and require less adaptation and rejiggering of internal layouts, but it would have been an interesting concept anyway.
......you have taught me something new this day Good Sir.
The Pegasus was one of the best episodes in the entire series.
Really glad to see another new video!
The youth Fotos are just awesome
Happy Star Trek day!!
Star Trek TNG: "The Pegasus" ... The ultimate *Rocks* episode.
@TheDing1701
2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Troi trapped in a shuttle by rocks in "Skin of Evil"? Yar got rocked in that one.
i've always been into a "nebulized" ambassador :)
I'm so lucky to have time between classes to watch this.
I miss u.
4:44 Junkball you should be a late night DJ/Radio host, The thought makes me want to be a long distance truck driver, so I can listen to you while driving at 4 am ..............And I've never wanted to be a long distance truck driver before
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
That's a very specific visual. 😆
@Tony-lc5kc
2 жыл бұрын
@@JunkBallMedia Yes...yes it is..........no homo......
Yeah, my dude! Loving all the videos lately!
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
Hello Mr. Romulan! Look at my cool facing cloaking device! I think we just violated a treaty!
Great series - I've been watching all these Junkball ship backstory episodes.
At 1:05, look at Johnathan Frakes' head shot. This must be when he just left high school. So young!
Man. I thought we had truly understood sheer magnitude of rocks. Little did I realize it was a mere taste of the danger rocks represented.
Yay! Junkball!
New Junkball! Yes!
How about a compromise where the Pegasus class is an Oberth variant with the absurd void between saucer and engineering section is filled in with all those advanced weapons, and the phased cloaking systems
@benclark3621
2 жыл бұрын
It was filled in... WITH ROCKS!!!
@charlestaylor253
2 жыл бұрын
@@benclark3621 Rocks: The most advanced 24th- Starfleet starship construction material ever devised to kill off nameless crew members. Not only traditionally used to pack the inside of bridge consoles for fragging annoying Red/Yellow Shirts, they were later found to be only best suitable substance to fill the notoriously unsightly "Oberth Gap"...😁
@markplott4820
2 жыл бұрын
Steven - I created a GUNBOAT version of the OBERTH Saucer Section and adding 4 Oberth warp nacelles and two Rollbars with Miranda Megaphasors and Auto Torp systems , it also had a Double stack Impulse Engine arrangement. I used these in my Fleets along with MIRANDA Class Battle Cruiser confuguration. these Ships were part of the Starfleet Marines (MACOS) .
@MrSheckstr
2 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 I’m an engineer at heart. I created a Starfleet Corp of Engineers shuttle carrier out of the lower pods with a door in the back and a port and starboard egress door forward on either side of the deflector array housing, Plus dorsal and ventral docking collars for runabouts in the void space. Travel to and from the saucer to the lower hull was from lift pods that followed inset rails in the connecting struts and entered and exited through air locks I also created a transport version of the Oberth that did away with the lower hull altogether and and instead had a docking collar for large scale cylindrical cargo pods. It was also possible to mount more than one oberth Saucer and slave control to a single command saucer
junkball ROCKS! no i mean look out, that console is exploding!
Wow! That's actually a pretty good design! Wish we could have seen it on screen.
Junkball, you are spoiling us with the recent uploads. But I like being spoiled, so that's ok.
bless you. i was crossing my fingers for a rocks reference.
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
I'm always glad to deliver.
Charles Foster Kane had Rosebud as his last words. 80 years from now yours will be ROCKS! lol.
I cant count how many times I watched this episode. And in HD it's so beautiful.
Someone at Eaglemoss better see this video - I want that model!
This is something I never knew. Thank you
Don't forget Riker's trip to the holodeck in this episode. XD
I doubt it had 4 necells, the display shows 2 necells with each one showing a top and side view of it
Pressman’s cloaking tech was definitely outlawed by the Treaty of Algeron however that treaty did not cover and cloaking tech which was already in Starfleet’s possession or was acquired through other means. ( We actually bought several broken Klingon units from ferrangi traders and were able to assemble 2 functional units) the Romulan device was from the dubious “ Enterprise Incident” stolen by Kirk himself. With some work we were able to reverse engineer a nearly perfect cloak that was all Starfleet. The system was intended for use as a stealth recon op in the delta quadrant. It proved invaluable along with our heat reduction system. Once in combat we don’t run it but there’s no need anyways. The cloak and the armor generator ( reverse engineered from USS Voyager) don’t play nice with each other anyway
one of my favorite episodes!!! “i’m taking it up with you WILL!!!!!!!!”
The enterprise doesn't use illumination in the darkness of space, yet it does inside an asteroid which inexplicably has an illumination source inside it.
@TheRyujinLP
2 жыл бұрын
Well you don't need one in space since you don't really have to worry about crashing into things. In a tight space like inside an asteroid it's a bit different. As for the light source that's just TV magic, visual clarity needs to come before realism some times.
@Lemon_Inspector
2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying they should have shown the Enterprise as a vague, barely-visible pitch-black shape whenever it's traveling between star systems? That would certainly have saved them a lot of money on the special effects.
@NeonVisual
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lemon_Inspector Pretty much, that was the reasoning for using running lights on the TOS refit in the motion picture.
@NeonVisual
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lemon_Inspector kzread.info/dash/bejne/iHVhzLmIntSnipM.html
USS Pegasus: I am become rock.
Another fantastic video! ROCKS!!!!!
@JunkBallMedia
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you liked it.
Thank you Junkball. Looking forward to your DS9 vids
Great episode
Shots of the D inside the asteroid are gorgeous.
Nice.. a little something to watch before bed. Happy days.
The Oberth should at least have gotten some visible mods. Like when you convert a DeLorean into a time machine
"and it's a good episode, worth revisiting".... ....There's an Enterprise Finale joke in there somewhere