Her: so where do you want to go to dinner tonight? Jimmy: let me show this huge graph of all possible places to eat tonight

@zozplays7984

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@highlightharmony69

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2yH0aqzk6TIoMo.html ikr

@Gman-sg4or

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnqDl7mioLWyorg.html

@bigdusty923

2 жыл бұрын

😹😹😹😹😹

@kneescapsforsale9528

2 жыл бұрын

He the only nigga ik who uses charts to show what another chart is showing

The amount of effort that goes into these videos is astonishing!

@AxxLAfriku

2 жыл бұрын

I am so unpretty 😭 When I go to the bank, they turn the cameras off. At least I am a big star on KZread. So don't feel too bad for me, dear iam

@lukamazing

2 жыл бұрын

ESPN needs to hire this legend asap

@nolies3784

2 жыл бұрын

The best sport KZreadr there is on KZread

@AScarn2002

2 жыл бұрын

Forreal! Feel like im @ a Ted-Talk.

@TrentonCS

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah well he does have nearly 2 million subscribers

Jokic's recalculated score, just after Denver won the title: 1 championship = +2 points 1 finals MVP = +10.5 points 2 MVPs (previously had 1) + 7.5 points (for a total of 18 points) 6.64 assists per game = +1 point (since Lillard's average is now 6.70) WS/48: .2474 = +17 points PER: 27.7 = +19 points Shot making = ?? Impact and influence = ?? This gives him a total of 67.5, putting him in 13th overall If you give him a few points for shot making and impact/influence, then he could be as high as 10th overall. He would also gain 10+ points if we used total rebound percentage (TRB%) instead of total rebounds (a lot of the top rebounders played in an era where pace was much higher and shooting percentages were much lower, so there were waaaaay more rebounds to go around)...Jokic ranks 13th all-time in TRB% (and only behind Moses Malone, Dwight Howard and Joel Embiid amongst players on the top 110 list) since they began tracking it in 1970. He ranks ahead of Wes Unseld (5th highest RPG all-time) in TRB% -- who played all but 2 seasons after 1970. Using this criteria, he might gain 10-15 points, which would easily put him in the top 10 (according to this criteria)

@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154

6 ай бұрын

Jokic fans are disgusting and pathetic holy shit😭😭😭 He’s not even top 30 Argus Walton over Jokic

@crystalizedExposed

6 ай бұрын

I have jokic at 25~ rn but this just shows how good he is already at 28

@tommywolmart265

5 ай бұрын

His influence is actually already extreme. Look at the amount of look-a-likes like Shengun, and teams building around that model.

@TeslaLegend

2 ай бұрын

Jokic now PER and WS/48 both 20pts. Also at 6.9 apg adds +5 to the total of 76.5 for the 10th spot all-time

@jacoblee5796

Ай бұрын

Shot making and impact and influence shouldn't be categories. Those are completely subjective and its just his opinion.

I’d love to see how all 110 players ranked. And maybe an updated version of this since the end of the season, guys like curry, klay, and jokic definitely had a big jump

@syncroh2310

Жыл бұрын

not klay but jokic and steph yeah

@Jesvsofnazarith

Жыл бұрын

I think he meant as how Klay came back from a long injury absence and put the numbers he did. Steph and jokic definitely had a way bigger jump though.

@tau_628

Жыл бұрын

I redid Steph’s ranking after this year and he’s around 11th, which I think makes sense

@grief6052

Жыл бұрын

Especially jokic and curry, those two hit historic numbers this season, and in jokic’s case we have SO MUCH more left

@Kunson

Жыл бұрын

Def not klay

Jimmy's graphs just keep getting bigger and bigger lol

@highlightharmony69

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2yH0aqzk6TIoMo.html 😂

@aaron7784

2 жыл бұрын

And better and better

@j4genius961

2 жыл бұрын

The Jimmyverse is expanding real quick

@avinashanand17

2 жыл бұрын

while getting worse and worse

@harveydent8667

2 жыл бұрын

That's not a graph dummy, it's a table🤦‍♂️

jimmy needs a podcast. bro could talk about anything and i’m tuning in

@Gman-sg4or

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnqDl7mioLWyorg.html

@bretkindsvatter3574

2 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree

@eliheinrichs1185

2 жыл бұрын

But then we wouldn't see his beautiful chart

@quinshawlittle

2 жыл бұрын

agreed

@puire3277

2 жыл бұрын

Faxxxxx

Bird has to be in that influence and impact section. Him and Magic saved basketball and made it extremely popular. They set up the globalization that Jordan brought to the sport. Basketball wouldn’t have taken off the way it did in the 90s without Bird and Johnson. Bird is also hugely important because he got the white audience into basketball

@TheApantosa

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely right....

@letitswissarmy

Жыл бұрын

Also Kareem lol… Like that man and Wilt had the rules changed up on em so hard man damn

@PIP...33

Жыл бұрын

@@letitswissarmy NOPE ONLY WILT. JABBAR NEVER CHANGE RULES.

@_fr0sty

10 ай бұрын

100 percent

@retr0shea446

10 ай бұрын

I was thinking that when I watched it. Bird saved the NBA with Johnson and was the first man to successfully use the 3-point line

Jimmy should revisit this metric every few years to see active players development!!!

@markomarkovic5729

11 ай бұрын

Jokić's career PER is now 27.7, in the playoffs 29.1

@josiahmagbitang6821

4 ай бұрын

​@@markomarkovic5729this list is created 2 years ago. Why you crying about the 29+ PER of jokic, just wait for the next calculation

- Michael Jordan places 13 in shot making. MJ: “I took that personally..”

@ronharris9829

2 жыл бұрын

I am sure Jordan is pissed, but if I were Bernard King, Rick Barry, Jerry West and IT(Detroit) , being left off the list, behind a guy like TMAC who can't make enough shots to get out of the first round, would not make me happy.

@lebronjames1474

2 жыл бұрын

Even I knew MJ was the Goat. The stats don't lie. I will forever live in his shadow.

@EzekielDBarrett

2 жыл бұрын

defensive teams.. "shot making" "influence" excuses to buff kobe's numbers.. rofl. shot making isn't involved in shooting stats? clutch stats? defensive teams aren't complete BS? influence?! that's complete bias...

@ag_24

2 жыл бұрын

I kinda felt like he made that part of the stat just to give Kobe extra points

@joshuaphillips874

2 жыл бұрын

Kawhi over LeBron….😂😂

Being critical of the “eye test” and showing Skip & Shannon is hilarious.

@bandupzay

2 жыл бұрын

Name a 18 year old rapper better than me…….U CANT!🔥🔥 kzread.info/dash/bejne/kW2h1c6QeMnAgso.html

@showtimereek5603

2 жыл бұрын

@@bandupzay NLE CHOPPA

@Wetwallz_45OT

2 жыл бұрын

@@showtimereek5603 this shit had me BUGGIN as soon as I read it 😂

@KyleAPemberton

2 жыл бұрын

@@bandupzay ur mum

I GUARANTEE the current player he was thinking of was Luka Doncic, because that man is the next face of the NBA

@drshadow2935

Жыл бұрын

@Shredding in DL Anthony edwards is good but not luka good bruh

@sleddinggybe142

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Luka is on the trajectory bc he has 3 all nba selections in just 4 seasons but we rlly don’t know how much longevity he’ll have in his career to get to 15

@javigar133

Жыл бұрын

After Giannis... Sure, It is Luka, not debatable

@ugeez4651

Жыл бұрын

Luka, because at age 23 he is better than MICHAEL JORDAN at age 23

@SUNRAKU23

Жыл бұрын

I think its luka as well

i come back to this video a lot, not because of how hard u definitely worked on this, but more about how humble you are about your list considering the amount of work put in. the ability to admit that there are many flaws in a project you probably put weeks if not a month into is something to be appreciated. thank u jxmy

@joeg4707

5 ай бұрын

Epic levels of glazing.

That player is LUKA the Don! Might pass Bron in all -nba team selections

@ambassadorcartwright9127

2 жыл бұрын

He's the only player to start early enough. We'll see if he can keep it up for 15 more years

@highlightharmony69

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2yH0aqzk6TIoMo.html yes

@thegoat4821

2 жыл бұрын

@@ambassadorcartwright9127 no reason why he won't. His game doesn't rely on athleticism and speed at all so no reason age will slow him down.

@kaihammon7321

2 жыл бұрын

I thought giannis

@kingclutchshot4251

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

The fact that Derrick Rose is on this list just goes to show how good he really was in his prime (prime of his career*)

@mjdruiz2412

2 жыл бұрын

its just too bad that his career is ruined by injuries, one of the greatest "WHAT IF's" in NBA history, I'm just happy as a basketball fan that he's still in the NBA and doing a great job as a bench player 🤘

@OlDirtyRon

2 жыл бұрын

Derrick got hurt before his prime

@lucascobb3287

2 жыл бұрын

Bro he was that good BEFORE his prime imagine his prime without injury

@jasonb3216

2 жыл бұрын

But then again I got Luka in this list at 42 💀

@alexgonzalez9138

2 жыл бұрын

I said if once and I’ll say it again. Rose was never in his prime.

Love the concept, I personally would've ranked all 110 though in each category. I understand for things like influence that would've taken days, but I think it would make the list more accurate past the top 10 to 15

Bird should be higher in the shot-making category. Arguably the greatest clutch shooter in the history of the game. Made many game-winning last-second shots, even when the defense knew they were coming. Should also be part of the "Impact and Influence" rankings, since he and Magic re-ignited interest in a dying league.

@scottb3034

Жыл бұрын

The shotmaking and impact lists are the two most flawed and unsurprisingly they are the two subjective categories.

@biz09ification

Жыл бұрын

​@@scottb3034 yeah mj 13 on shot making and kareem not even on the list lol

@douggieharrison6913

10 ай бұрын

this is Jimmy's channel bruh if you gonna make that claim you need at least 7 graphs to back it up

@OmarAli-mh2jm

9 ай бұрын

Ray Allen has entered the chat

@dillingerdashiell

7 ай бұрын

@@OmarAli-mh2jmshot making has nothing to do making shots. Yeah Allen was an all timer as far as the 3 ball goes and had a nice touch. But shot making has to do with manufacturing shots - when there seem to be none - and making them… plenty of players are great at making shots by picking and choosing their spots. We talking about 3 seconds to go, the entire team is choking, the defense has collapsed on your guy and there hands all over the place… 3, 2,… Larry Legend got to be #1 and Kobe #2

All of Jimmys comments be like : “whenever Jimmy uploads its a great day”. And they are all true

@highlightharmony69

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2yH0aqzk6TIoMo.html ikr

@brendanz

2 жыл бұрын

But how do u know his names jimmy? Could be jommy or jemmy

@dylanbechtell3756

2 жыл бұрын

Facts, dude makes it a good day when he uploads

@LA-fm4kw

2 жыл бұрын

Whenever Jimmy uploads it's a great day

@blzing8197

2 жыл бұрын

@@brendanz he said it

Jxmy in high school: When will I ever use math after school? Jxmy now: *Using numbers to find the 75 greatest NBA players of All-time*

@ChrisChanSajelan

2 жыл бұрын

Except that he uses the most usable in math... statistics

@ry_an.

2 жыл бұрын

Stats are different than Radicals and Quantum Mechanics

@ChrisChanSajelan

2 жыл бұрын

@@ry_an. yeah but I don't get your point.

@dalanlarson6334

2 жыл бұрын

@@ry_an. nobody said he was using quantum mechanics bro😭. he just said “school”

@ry_an.

2 жыл бұрын

@@dalanlarson6334 I’m implying that stats are a more useful subject matter relating to real world stuff taught in school that what I was taught in math which was quantum mechanics.

These videos really highlight the shortcomings of using ranking over scoring in such a comparison. By assigning points based on ranks, some categories like # of MVPs or # of _ selections can create massive disparities in points. The difference between 10 and 11 selections shouldn't be way more valuable than the difference between 11 and 12. Also limiting to 20 in any category is going to inhibit well-rounded players who might not make the top 20 but consistently sit in the top half of the list.

Love your content, bro. You put a lot of effort to make this list, and you said that this list is far from perfect. Respect.

I don't think we say this enough: Thank You, Jimmy.

@niceasf7038

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@godfirstjayden

2 жыл бұрын

@@arienn2665 wtf

@glumboy4229

2 жыл бұрын

My fav KZread video right now no lie kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYSu0Lh6Xdynfs4.html ]

That "without a doubt" line when talking about Luka's skill gave me chills. I've never been so excited for the future of an NBA player

@Gman-sg4or

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnqDl7mioLWyorg.html

@myhandslife7395

2 жыл бұрын

Watching luka play reminded me why I fell in love with basketball as a kid. Im 34 now, and he's bringing the excitement I had as a kid back.

@Connor629

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the thing is that there’s a lot of fans who discredit just how good of a player is because he doesn’t have a 40 inch vertical. You ask people would they rather have Ja Morant or Luka and everyone with an IQ in the double digits or higher will say Luka, because skills > athleticism

@harveydent8667

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually Giannis but okay racist.

@Nichotech1

2 жыл бұрын

@harvey dent that takes no skill at all

Great video! Super fun to watch thank you for all the effort. The only thing that’s a little strange to me is that the end chart might be a little off. I noticed ad had 18 points in the per stat but only 11 in the total counter. So even if he didn’t place at all in the other categories he should still be a little higher. Just an observation not really worried about it.

*Positives:* The whole damn project. Lotta work. Also, love the shout-outs to Moses Malone and Buck's-era Kareem. Highlighting Robinson's productivity was great (love Hakeem, but I'm always reminding people that Robinson was VERY similar in most stats). Whatever the minuses, overall this was really interesting, and I'm sure a lot of work. Thanks! *Minuses:* 1. Your two subjective lists have... um... problems. For Impact, Kobe was more impactful/influential than Curry, Russell, Chamberlain, Dr. J, and Magic? Come on now. And shouldn't Magic & Bird be joined at the hip when it comes to impact and influence, but Bird doesn't even make the list? (If you're including Magic's social impact for how he handled his HIV diagnosis, then he should be #1 hands down!) And as for "Shot Making", not only do you have Kobe over Jordan, but you have Kobe #1 and Jordan #13... when they're the damn same player in the sense of being a "shot maker" (and Jordan, although 1% less on 3PT%, was 4% more efficient overall.) The "Shot Making" list is just strange for all kinds of reasons (Ex: Are distance shooters "shot makers" because they can easily "create" by shooting from far away? And Kyrie #11? Over Wade and Jordan and Ice? No. And Vince Carter makes it, but A.I. doesn't? And again, Kyrie is #11, but A.I. ain't even on the list! And wasn't Wilt pretty good at making a shot? What about the logo? Legend has it that Elgin Baylor was pretty good too.) 2. The points given by rank are a little suspect. Ten All-NBA Teams gets you 1 point, but 11 All-NBA Teams gets you 8 points? And I assume 9 selections gets you nothing. Wes Unseld - who I checked to make sure he got his proper love - actually got too much love by your system. Players who had 7, 8, or 9 All-NBA selections should've be given something for that, to separate them from players like Unseld, who wasn't nearly so dominant for so long. 3. You triply messed up Wes Unseld's points (neglected his Final's MVP, didn't include his photo among the Championships, and incorrectly computed his score even given those two mistakes. This makes me wonder... did you do this by hand? I assume you used a spreadsheet, but if done by hand, then - _Holy Hell dude_ - that's WAAAY above and beyond.) 4. Ice Ice Baby! Under Shot Making, you put George Gervin #18. LOL Players in NBA history with 4 scoring titles in 5 years: Durant, Jordan, Gervin, Chamberlain. And Allen Iverson is the only other player to get 4 scoring titles total. And... Gervin spent his first 4 years in the ABA before the merger, so who knows if he might have had even more? And, for a wing, his career 2 PT % of 512 is, um... pretty good, eh? That SOB seemingly never missed. He's underappreciated.

@michaelbell2564

Жыл бұрын

A lot of facts here

@JoeHardacre

Жыл бұрын

I think the subjective lists threw this thing off massively. Kobe got 29 points from 'shot making' and 'influence', which pretty much cemented him top 5 instead of 7/8. How does Lebron not get a single point for shot making when he's pretty much the best player ever at driving and finishing at the rim (and has better efficiency than Kobe). Also the recency bias is insane. Luka ahead of Scottie Pippen? Lilliard is the 50th best player ever? Why? Because he shoots 3s efficiently?

@zht8482

Жыл бұрын

You write all this masterpiece of information just for 20 likeslemme turn that 21 amazing comment

@elipaurini8362

Жыл бұрын

Agree - would have been great if he just used basketball stats and accolades, and not things that are subjective like 'Clutch, shot making, influence etc

@voidl3s246

Жыл бұрын

Well imo the fact that mj is number 1 and lebron in second proves the authenticity of the list and how numbers do not lie. If you compare these results with jimmy’s latest video on the GOAT debate according to NBA players the results match this list.

Appreciate the video man, great to see this type of breakdown!

@SLVYER

2 жыл бұрын

Nonstop with no replies? love ur vids btw, also nice heart from jimmy

@JerikoThomas

2 жыл бұрын

@@SLVYER ikr gotta reply to nonstop

@genericstaticshock705

2 жыл бұрын

Dude this is an amazing crossover, Nonstop Jody lol

@abdiabdi5575

2 жыл бұрын

@@genericstaticshock705 Jody?

@giorgiodechambre6798

2 жыл бұрын

Do you guys remember his video about George Marcus, the greatest basketball player ever, and there's a lot of videos that seem to be just missing from his channel??? What happened to them??

“No one is necessarily wrong. Well, unless you have someone else than Michael Jordan at number 1. Then your definitely wrong. And you can go ahead and throw that list in the trash” - Jxmy 2021

@vikrantkumar7449

2 жыл бұрын

best line of the video

@KingAnubyss

2 жыл бұрын

@@vikrantkumar7449 100%

@ethandurham1578

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite part of the whole vid 😂

@notoriety7473

2 жыл бұрын

you’re*

@shreyas5737

2 жыл бұрын

You’re god damn right.

Wilt needs to be higher than 10 for impact and influence. The league changed the rules so he couldn’t dominate as easily. No other player has that kind of influence. In terms of players that have changed the way we see the game, the way we watch basketball, the way we play basketball, he changed the way we see and play the game LITERALLY through the rules. No other player has done that.

@AnthonyRobinson-dc3pq

Ай бұрын

Wilt should be number one

Great work Jimmy. Really appreciate your work. Love it.

I'm surprised Wilt isn't higher on the "Impact and Influence" list. He caused more NBA rule changes than any other player in history. They had to literally change the game so he wouldn't be so dominant! This is probably just my personal bias though...I always feel Wilt gets far too little respect in these debates.

@clifftonnorflet7510

2 жыл бұрын

Naw they really did tho

@danielinglese3261

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of 60s players won’t get their due here. All defensive teams didn’t exist until after their time, and Russell and Wilt are two of the best defenders ever. Defense seems undervalued on this list, at least to me. FMVP is another one. He gave bill the one spot, but wilt would have another FMVP too, which would give him even more points. Crazy they’re both top 5 even without these shoe-in total point boosters

@ZWill07

2 жыл бұрын

Wilt, Mike, Steph.

@clifftonnorflet7510

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZWill07 even Dirk and Manu

@1k-pax991

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree

The only thing I wish Jimmy held higher in scoring is DPOY. I’d be curious to see how much generational defensive talents move up the ranks w just a few awards ( Hakeem, Giannis, etc )

@cadekeller8963

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, Dwight Howard definitely deserves top 75 or 60

@drain5447

2 жыл бұрын

i mean the thing is ben wallace has the most dpoys but isnt in the hof... in the overall picture they dont matter as much

@dwyanebrown9162

2 жыл бұрын

@@drain5447 a quick google search shows that he is

@robert2690

2 жыл бұрын

@@drain5447 They should

@rush1209

2 жыл бұрын

Left out steals and blocks. Numbers don’t lie, but you can create misinformation by hiding the numbers.

Thanks for the effort man, thats amazing

I know jack squat about basketball or the NBA.. but I watch all of your videos. The science, the production, the research. Everything is top tier. Keep it up please. That said, its time to do this again. I wanna see where Steph is at now that he is champion and FMVP.

@applycontext9161

Жыл бұрын

He ranked steph 7th

Luca Doncic might just end up with the most all-nba selections

@afterthought054

2 жыл бұрын

That's who he was referring to when he said drop the answer in the comments box

@eddiee9147

2 жыл бұрын

Great mindssss

@eddiee9147

2 жыл бұрын

Was just looking for a Luka comment

@jmoney-ue5dh

2 жыл бұрын

Or Trae

@EricCKeys

2 жыл бұрын

he's got 2 All NBA selections in 4 years, I don't see him having as long of a career as LeBron either

"A jack of all trades, and a master... of many." I don't think there's ever been a better description of the GOAT.

@endk.3500

2 жыл бұрын

Except a three

@envision136

2 жыл бұрын

@@endk.3500 he can shoot the 3 he doesnt want to

@duantae

2 жыл бұрын

@@envision136 He literally holds the record for the worst 3 point performance in the 3 point contest with Detlef Schrempf

@micaiahpatterson1880

2 жыл бұрын

@@duantae A three point contest really. That don't mean anything

@reign1594

2 жыл бұрын

@@micaiahpatterson1880 he should've never been in the contest

Nice list! Good to see that a stat-based list is almost as close as doing the eye test list. Just a bit of shame that a guy like Manu Ginobili would never be included in such list due to how the Spurs functioned.

Lebron being the alltime scoring champ yet not listed AT ALL in the Shot Making graphic is wild

@bansheem5382

11 ай бұрын

THIS WAS MADE 2 YEARS AGO

@jacoblee5796

11 ай бұрын

@@bansheem5382 AND!? LBJ had already passed Kobe on the scoring list and he had Kobe in the one spot! LBJ passed Kobe in 104 less games and on 1,880 less shots. Clearly this guy did this to boast Kobe, its kind of pathetic to be honest.

@kauffamn1016

2 ай бұрын

Longevity my friend . Not shot making skill.

This was a certified "HIGHROLLER" classic

@Gman-sg4or

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnqDl7mioLWyorg.html

Jimmy is the MJ of the youtube NBA content creators, the one true goat at his craft. 🐐🐐🐐

@bandupzay

2 жыл бұрын

Name a 18 year old rapper better than me…….U CANT!🔥🔥 kzread.info/dash/bejne/kW2h1c6QeMnAgso.html

Tim duncan has 15 all defensive selections but not a single dpoy 💀

As far as the best shot makers, I really feel dirk should’ve been on the list, even if it was #10 dude completely revolutionized how big men play the game. Not too many bigs were stretching the floor before dirk or at the level dirk was doing it.

@jacoblee5796

Жыл бұрын

You get that was a made up category just to give Kobe more points, right? But you're not wrong, Dirk should of been at the top of that list. A seven footer you was impossible to block because of his size and one legged fad away. He also had crazy range for a man his size.

@AnthonyRobinson-dc3pq

2 ай бұрын

John havcheck John Lucas Elvin Hayes Spencer Hayward Bobby dandrige Bob mcadoo

Can we just appreciate how this dude took the time to gather all this data just to make a video for us? Thanks for the vid Jxmy!

Zaza Pachulia actually has the most all-defensive teams. The cameras just weren't on.

@ziwuri

2 жыл бұрын

Wait what do you mean?

@cheers9503

2 жыл бұрын

@@ziwuri my guy 😐

@KidnapT

2 жыл бұрын

Also the most lethal Ankle breaker in history of nba

@demnx1uchiha303

2 жыл бұрын

@@KidnapT 😂 lol

@yaochuangoh1242

2 жыл бұрын

@@KidnapT NAWWWW U FOUL

If Jokic wins the championship and the FMVP this year, he will be 11 all time with his current stats

@CJ-ui9zo

10 ай бұрын

Top 20-25 but I can’t easily name 11 better players than jokic all time

Mistake: You left of that Wes Unseld was a Final's MVP. That gives him a regular season MVP (+10.5), a Final's MVP (+10.5), a Championship (+2), and #5 all time RPG (+16), for 39 points, making him #27 all time (moving one ahead of Jerry West, which is of course absurd). Also, you had his total at 29.5, but if you only included #5 RPG (+16) and regular season MVP (+10.5), then somehow you gave him 3 more points that I didn't see (I didn't see his picture among those with 1 ring, and that still would've only been 2 points, not 3, making a total - with your oversight - 28.5, not 29.5).

For the All-NBA selection, the only two active players I could see beating Lebron's count are Luca Doncic (2 so far in 3 years of NBA and only 22 years old today) or Giannis Antetokounmpo (5 so far in 8 seasons and about to be 27 years old). Both have won their selections consecutively and are both currently active streaks.

@jaylenstark5866

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was guessing Luka too.

@kendallblackwell2256

2 жыл бұрын

Those two are the only ones I see doing it

@bugzmccarthy8416

2 жыл бұрын

Lebron still goin he'll end up w 19 or 20 they aint reaching tht

@nikitastojanovski5841

2 жыл бұрын

Dont believe luka will make it till there cause we people from Europe like to live life even if we are professional athletes(meaning luka will always let himself go in the offseason meanwhile bron was working his ass off after his 18th season in the league and also crazy crazy longevity due to genetics and discipline) that being said i think Lukas out,but i think Giannis could be close but players like him at that size usually get hurt after 30 so i think injuries will catch him later in his career.Again,this is my personal view and i hope they do make it close to brons record

@oliverbourke5497

2 жыл бұрын

@@bugzmccarthy8416 he def wont especially when he sits out half the season

No Dirk on the shot making? (creating and making their shot) No Dirk on your impact list? Stretch 4s and 5s all over the league because of him. Everything else is pretty good tho.

@SimonMittermaier

2 жыл бұрын

I criticize the same points. Dirk has a Fair ranking on the overall list. But impact on big men and international players (him being the first international mvp who didn't play college in the US is also huge) and shot making, with being 50-40-90 and having arguably the best fadeaway ever. These points I also can't understand.

@peterstark4562

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Dirk should be in shot maker and influence list. The first 7 footer scorer and shooter. And MJ at no. 13 at shot making? 10 scoring titles, highest career ppg, 50% career FG% as a shooting guard, one of the deadliest midrange shooters of all time. Not sure what his basis on that list. Im sure creativity is ignored bec no way steph, klay, ray allen and kd are more creative than mj. I guess 3 pt shooting takes a lot of the percentage. But he got the rest of lists right.

@iluminati

2 жыл бұрын

KG was the prototype for the stretch 4. Heck, you can make a not insane case that Dirk isn't the Most important stretch 4 who played pro ball in TX. (Tina Thompson, COME ON DOWN!) If KG doesn't play well early in his career, Dallas doesn't take a chance on Dirk Nowitzki, and holds onto Robert Tractor Traylor.

@aguyfromnothere

2 жыл бұрын

@@iluminati Who is Tina Thompson? We are talking about the NBA not toy leagues.

@stevenp9209

2 жыл бұрын

@@aguyfromnothere subsidized league

Though the amount of work put into this vid is great keep up the good work

Wilt Chamberlain had the greatest peak Ben Taylor: And I took that personally

Wilt higher in influence... He has changed so many rules especially when talking about defence and blocking

@johngrimm2074

2 жыл бұрын

Wilt is the original monster when it came to basketball, Shaq just took over that title. The 2 monsters gifted with athleticism and rare physique that let them dominate without any effort. They are the embodiment of "built different" in basketball.

@STO_BASKETBALL

2 жыл бұрын

@@johngrimm2074 he is the reason people count blocks

@user-rj6ku1go8j

2 жыл бұрын

If Bill take most points of finals mvp then why Wilt didn't take not even +0.5 ???? He could have won one more you know !

@tmac5135

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and Magic should be almost at the top of the list with Bird. Those two guys saved the NBA.

@djproject1820

2 жыл бұрын

@@tmac5135 So true. NBA was floundering as a league before those two hit the NBA hardwood. Thankfully, they went to great franchises. I think they may have had one of the first shoe deals with the Converse Weapons, each with team colors. The impact of Magic and Bird cannot be understated. Then Michael came into the league and the rest is history.

Should have put Dirk in impact He changed the roles of the big guys alot

@Reeftaan

2 жыл бұрын

And into shot making Dirk is regarded by many to have one of the most unguardeble shots in NBA history. After the Skyhook mainly. No one could stop Dirks Fadeaway.

@Noah-ge4kx

2 жыл бұрын

George Mikan should be there too but his impact was so long ago most people don't remember that he not only inspired everything about what the classic big man is he's also the pioneer that invented the 3-point line despite criticism which he said he created to give smaller players more roles

@travisj8110

2 жыл бұрын

Who gets moved out the top 10?

@giovannigelain645

2 жыл бұрын

Wilt at 10 in the influence list is hilarious. The nba changed the rules cause of him...

@fatherpucci6097

2 жыл бұрын

@@giovannigelain645 the nba changed rules because of Zaza to 😂 so can you explain to me how rule change matters also who would he be higher then, Julius? You believe he should be higher then the guy whos the god/creator of flashy dunks and even if you believe he should be how would that change the final list he’d still be in the same spot

It'd be interesting to see what an updated version looks like for KD, Steph, and particularly Jokic and Embiid.

Amazing MJ topped all as the GOAT. Glad to see Tony Parker in this 75 greatest players list: he was left out of the NBA 75 list, with all his championship rings, accolades, leader abilities, basketball skills, and dedication to the game. But it was still sad not to see Clyde the glyde Drexler included: can we not extend to top 100? :-)

@ninjamage5215

Жыл бұрын

Tony and Manu missing it made me sad, but at the same time there were always going to be snubs

@louisschmitz8346

Жыл бұрын

👑=GOAT

@AnthonyRobinson-dc3pq

2 ай бұрын

@@ninjamage5215 should have been the top 100 players

@AnthonyRobinson-dc3pq

2 ай бұрын

That's right top 100 to many great players left off

Derrick Rose at 72 is surprising. His potential was limitless and it was such a shame he kept getting injured.

@LegendInThaMakin

2 жыл бұрын

For the life of me I will never understand what everyone saw in that guy. He was an explosive guard that was mostly hype, there wasn’t anything he did that was all that exceptional yet people treated him like a god. Still baffles me till this day.

@dudesayHEY

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendInThaMakin cause he's the youngest player to have an mvp and was picked over LeBron, Kobe, Dirk, prime Dwight, and prime CP3, not to mention KD and prime K Love. So the dude isn't wrong to say he had potential

@LegendInThaMakin

2 жыл бұрын

@@dudesayHEY but he didn’t deserve it. Lebron had a much better season than rose did that year, significantly better. Once again, just hype.

@dudesayHEY

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendInThaMakin ahhh that's were I disagree with you. The 10-11 Bulls had 4 more wins over the Heat while the Heat had 3 All-Stars when the Bulls only had Rose and an all-star, swept them in the regular season. If Rose had another all-star caliber player for sure the Playoffs would have been different

@mekhiedmonds3

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not suprising.

The thing that shocked me the most was Luka on this list and not just on the bottom, but right in the middle. Wow

@chikondimapondera3617

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this type of comment

@justinherbertthepervert4817

2 жыл бұрын

Call me crazy but I think Luka will end up being the Goat considering how high he already is

@omipux9563

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinherbertthepervert4817 unless he gets a lot of injuries

@lubeau8296

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinherbertthepervert4817 Luka will be a great player but his impact on defense is too low for GOAT status

@ahrtrixmeister3785

2 жыл бұрын

@@lubeau8296 Who knows maybe he'll develop some decent defense in years to come

The shot making category will soon make room for jokic

this list is very close to the list the nba has made, great work.

The Wade spot troubled me the most. But even as a die hard LeBron stan, your top 10 was pretty damn accurate.

@csanadhorvath

2 жыл бұрын

yeah I was about to say, Wade is way too low, Embiid is way too high. Also what is Luka doing at 42 already? Maybe in 10 years but for now? Come on. Embiid same thing. Melo too. Rondo at 62, above Pierce? Jokic already in top 75? Come on... no Alonzo Mourning, Walt Frazier, PATRICK EWING, CLYDE DREXLER on the list is blasphemy... edit: okay, jimmy mentioned it too, I just paused at the moment he showed the full list, and got worried. but he noticed them missing too, at least.

@wosile

2 жыл бұрын

@@csanadhorvath Luka being on the list I guess is similar to Shaq being on the top 50 list. At the time he was only a 3rd year player or something, and everyone, including himself, thought he was crowned too early. That being said, when they were discussing on NBA open court, they said “they guessed shaq, and they guessed right.” Similarly, I guess Jxmy is almost guessing Luka.

@shawnseguro5184

2 жыл бұрын

Same man. Literally only thing that bothers me is the wade spot

@danieldaw1778

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously. There is literally NOBODY I would take over him from 31 to where he is. And a few of the people above Giannis I would also put Dwade over. I still think he's a top 30 play all time, possibly top 25 depending on who you got.

@iluminati

2 жыл бұрын

Wade makes sense to me. Remember, this isn't a Hall of Fame list, but 75 greatest. He seems about right.

I think RPG, APG and PPG should have been adjusted to per 100 possessions. The pace of play has changed a lot.

@kookurikapooh

2 жыл бұрын

True. I want to see a new, adjusted for inflation list.

@egor4973

2 жыл бұрын

or per 75 possessions

@ronharris9829

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@swpdisciple

2 жыл бұрын

In that case Stockton is way out in front.

You're the goat jxmy wow effortful

I don't know why, but it makes me incredibly happy for Rajon Rondo to be on the list. Even if it isn't a high spot. Hope people are going to remember how good he was in his prime.

Nobody: Literally no one: Jimmy: To show you how huge that is, here is this graph 😮

@InvestmentIdea

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4Gqs7d9ccaWqrg.html Faxx.

@highlightharmony69

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2yH0aqzk6TIoMo.html yes

@LA-fm4kw

2 жыл бұрын

He wouldn't be Jimmy with out the graphs lol

@Thatwhiteblackkid

2 жыл бұрын

Graphs influence people’s opinions.

@nerdmovies2771

2 жыл бұрын

Well he did It to "put it into perspective" :D

Career averages also tend to be higher for active players in their primes. For example, Kevin Durant's 27 ppg is very unlikely to be maintained if he decides to play in his late 30s.

@ryuichihwang2495

2 жыл бұрын

Yep and MJ,Wilt will have far ahead ppg if they don’t include their twilight years

@jp3813

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryuichihwang2495 Wilt retired in his mid-30s.

@morpher728

2 жыл бұрын

@@jp3813 yeah but the 60s where a different time, primes didnt last as long and chamberlain got jnjured

@jp3813

2 жыл бұрын

​@@morpher728 I believe he got injured in the 1969-70 season around age 33 or so. He had the same ppg the year prior and the year after. It has more to do w/ switching his style of play b/c Jerry West had higher averages throughout his 30s. Such a switch was nothing new to Wilt b/c his highest postseason average was 37 ppg (3 games) rather than the absurd 50 ppg (80 games) in the regular season. By contrast, West's highest for both are 41 ppg (11 games) & 31 ppg (79 games) respectively.

@SkyLineNFS_TTV

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but pre 2003 you had to play man to man so it made it easier to score for those older more experienced players who used skill rather than physical gifts

1st things first ……. GREAT VIDEO On your list some players played some, most or all of their careers before a couple of your categories came into existence & I only noticed you talking about ONE (the Finals MVP) of them ……. So as an older person compared to your general audience some of the older players did not get the maximum points they could have earned ……. But I ❤MOST of your content …… PLEASE KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

Amazing! Amazing work. Very impressive

I was just staring at Embiid above Wade the whole time lol

@jimbobfisher8904

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck that they literally are trying to put KD ina top ten above Shaq and Larry at that.

@ryandiaz8512

2 жыл бұрын

Bro dwade is under russ james harden embiid fucking luka AI wtf lmao

@justinnguyen3091

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimbobfisher8904 KD pretty much is cheating, because he plays small forward/power forward and if you google the average heights its 6'5-6'10 for those two positions, KD stands next to DeMarcus (Boogie) Cousins who's listed at 6'11 and KD is slightly taller than him listed at "6'10". He's a good player though and is pretty agile for his height with great shooting capabilities/basketball IQ. However, SHAQ is great don't get me wrong. He had quite a few flaws in his game though such as hack a shaq. Is it shitty KD joined the warriors to win championships? yeah. Lebron did the same thing too. However I don't disagree with him being top 10. He's a very efficient player.

@nicohoshi

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryandiaz8512 This has to be a joke

@ursula3438

2 жыл бұрын

CP3, Nash, Harden etc. above Pippen is also crazy and shows that the metrics Jimmy used are far from perfect. Scottie belongs in the top 20.

Jimmy : no matter how you split it no one is necessarily wrong also Jimmy : Well unless you have someone other than Michael Jordan at no 1 , then you're definitely wrong 😂😂

@gnvliljon06

2 жыл бұрын

Throw it in the trash to

@treycramer7940

2 жыл бұрын

Lebron is no. 1

@mausousap

2 жыл бұрын

well thats just a no brainer

@dutchpackdior2178

2 жыл бұрын

Truth really does hurt a certain group of people .

@reidb6327

2 жыл бұрын

@@treycramer7940 he’s not

i like your concept of the shot making list but Ray Allen over Kyrie, if we talking bout creating shots Kyrie and AI were some of the best because they have to be at that size. love the content tho great breakdown!!!

Great analysis!!!

When is Jimmy gonna rank his ranks? Let's go full meta.

@Gman-sg4or

2 жыл бұрын

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@Ynkno

2 жыл бұрын

December

“No one’s necessarily wrong…unless if you don’t have Michael Jordan at #1” I love how this statement is coming from a lebron fan😂

@goku..7

2 жыл бұрын

The same thing I think every time he has a video about one of those great stories of MJ🔥🔥🔥

@noelgoveo3030

2 жыл бұрын

Because he makes his content from an objective point of view, which is something that is lacking in the internet in general and in some media platforms. Thats why his content is so good and no one can be mad at it.

@JaKingScomez

2 жыл бұрын

Shaq is the best player to ever step foot in the nba

@Frostshokula

2 жыл бұрын

@@JaKingScomez He’s not even the GOAT at his position.

@punchdreadnought8101

2 жыл бұрын

@@Frostshokula As an MJ fan, Lebron is no doubt the best small forward. Not to mention he can also play point guard and power forward, yet still manage to produce better results than many good players.

I appreciate the amount of effort you put into making this list then systematically tearing it apart at the end. Poor Elgin should’ve been higher, but I’m not surprised, Baylor has sort of been lost to time. Statistics can help, but the other part that must be addressed regardless of the intention is context. Oh and I don’t have Michael as number one… I don’t enjoy the cult around him. There’s having an opinion, then there’s people trying to beat you down and make you see the same way they do. There’s plenty of room for contention. “I understand Basketball’s a team game, and you’ve already made Michael number one, but if you had to have Wilt against Michael, my prime and his prime… How much money would you be willing to bet?” -Wilt Chamberlain

The fact that Dennis Johnson is top 40 on here shows how criminally underrated he is... Alot of ppl don't even know who he is

@mathboy8188

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely right. Sometimes it seems that people forget that defense is half the game.

Dirk definitely should have been top 5 impact. He changed the way Big Man play forever and had one of the toughest shots to defend in his arsenal. Everything else is on point

@lordrichardvantiltingen7109

2 жыл бұрын

Also widely considered to be the best european player until now

@lilfagalz1008

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordrichardvantiltingen7109 until now? Who’s better all time?

@cacs2201

2 жыл бұрын

@@lilfagalz1008 Luka could surpass him

@lordrichardvantiltingen7109

2 жыл бұрын

@@lilfagalz1008 I think Luka may be capable of overtaking him and no one knows what other players are gonna comw in the future

@karinaluna6131

2 жыл бұрын

Top 20 for sure

I appreciate that you still included some Pistol Pete footage. He partially played before the 3 point line but still sank bombs. He also helped invent showtime. I think hes undervalued.

@chupdoesyoutube5365

2 жыл бұрын

If you know you know

@Luke-uw6dp

2 жыл бұрын

Pistol Pete was incredible. Truly a once in a generation talent

@jfrom214

2 жыл бұрын

Bro people don’t know about pistol Pete , the man could ball , lol I love how the underate this legend , people can’t differentiate between eras and how players would play in each era

@jfrom214

2 жыл бұрын

Ernie fav player

@chupdoesyoutube5365

2 жыл бұрын

@@jfrom214 I couldn't agree more people who go oh this guy couldn't shoot enough for this era or he wasn't strong or tough enough... like bro if they're an all time great they would have made it in any era. The best players would play to the strengths of that era and still be great in another era, it's likely they would just have a different game.

You clearly the GOAT of the analysis

We need a part 2 after this nba season ❤

We all need to appreciate how much effort/research he puts in these vids he’s the real 🐐 here

@InvestmentIdea

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4Gqs7d9ccaWqrg.html Faxx.

@Gman-sg4or

2 жыл бұрын

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@oof3479

2 жыл бұрын

We do

@somethingaintnothing5658

2 жыл бұрын

For just a content, this is unreal. It is so extensive that you can publish a paper. Fuckin GOAT of basketball content.

@nikoslala2111

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he compares ppg and apg. Lazy video lazy criteria

Can’t wait to see Giannis moving up on these kind of lists, I love that man

@ThePrinceWhoWasPromised

2 жыл бұрын

Giannis is already number 1 on this list d13 1n 4 f1r3 unitary

@cruzzz5738

2 жыл бұрын

Top 10 when it’s all said and done imo 🖐

@fyemusicplug6486

2 жыл бұрын

@@cruzzz5738 if he continues at this pace there’s no doubt. The ONLY thing that can stop him is if he doesn’t have longevity, which doesn’t seem likely…

@giannisakumpo8943

2 жыл бұрын

@@cruzzz5738 no doubt, giannis is themordern day shaq,he's deff going take over shaq sspot

@Tech-cy9yo

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly his playoff run didn’t impress me at all

Mikan and Bird should be on the influence section. One was so impactful they had to change the rules and even helped create another rule after retiring, and another was one of the players that helped popularizing the NBA again after it started declining. Also, Iverson is criminally low. For his size he was extraordinary, let's not forget Kobe's words.

"Kobe was too low when I tried to be objective so I made some shit up and put him at the top of those categories"

Luka Doncic is making some lists and he’s only been in the league for 3 years 🤯🤯

@vkvsh_2k206

2 жыл бұрын

Right

@organizationalcoaches7072

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. His skills are that good👍🏾.

@yapops5167

2 жыл бұрын

@@organizationalcoaches7072 not last night boss👍

@organizationalcoaches7072

2 жыл бұрын

@@yapops5167 indeed.

@yxngmargielaa46

2 жыл бұрын

@@yapops5167 mavs have a slow start every season

Adding in the drums and kicks when revealing that MJ is number 1 is one of the subtle reasons why Jxmy videos really be hittin on another level.

after the 2022 finals curry jumped a whole lot in this. Ranking KD over curry at this point is insane

@TrevA102

Жыл бұрын

#13 i would say KD did a lot earlier his career so i would say KD is better rn. later steph could prob beat him out

@Pessidoggywolfwolf

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevA102 kd is better steph curry is greater there’s a difference

I think it would have made more sense to give every single player points for each metric. Top spot gets 110 points, bottom gets 1. I know it is a lot more work, but it would make for a more consistent list, and although may not have a major impact on rankings, could be the difference between Larry Bird making the top 10 or being 11th for example.

*You should’ve also taken into account that Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain would have 13 and 11 All-Defensive Team selections if the All-Defensive Team award started before 1969*

@csanadhorvath

2 жыл бұрын

no chance, MJ wouldn't be #1 then, Jimmy cant risk that happening.

@imtonkwii7304

2 жыл бұрын

MJ wasnt top 10 in the stat he made up

@alexstamp7373

2 жыл бұрын

i was gonna comment exatly the same thing

@honestaccgroup

2 жыл бұрын

Keywords "Would have"

@Some_One_456

2 жыл бұрын

@@honestaccgroup *He took into account that Bill Russell “would have” the most Finals MVPs*

Lets take a moment to appreciate the time, effort and dedication put into a 17 minute vid. Jimmy is a basketball genius and has my respect. Amazing what this guy does keep it up! Your doing great

@soprano3408

2 жыл бұрын

Jimmy>Stephen.A

@David-lf6rr

2 жыл бұрын

it’s a pretty bad list though

@ne9835

2 жыл бұрын

@@David-lf6rr Lol

@David-lf6rr

2 жыл бұрын

@@ne9835 it just is. Dame has no business being on this list. Kobe way too high, mcgrady shouldn’t be on it, rodman way too high, rondo shouldn’t be on it

@David-lf6rr

2 жыл бұрын

@@ne9835 and embiid being 46th is just straight up laughable

Kobe number 1 shot maker but Jordan is 13? Make it make sense

@w.w.1348

Жыл бұрын

Ik... That was crazy! Makes No sense.

8:15 … at this point the video lost more integrity than most will think. You say the video is based solely on numbers, then we have this made up stat And of course MJ is on it and Lebron isn’t. Hell. Paul George is on it but lebron isn’t??? It makes it even worse that Kobe is number one. Kobe has the most bricks of all time and his shooting percentage from anywhere on the court was below average.

Two things I'd suggest to adapt: 1. Diferentiate 1st team selections from 2nd and 3rd team selections 2. Measure the percentage of seasons the player has played that resulted in selections. MJ and Chuck have the same amount of selections, but they're not in the same tier in that category.

@owenpeterson4820

2 жыл бұрын

all-time great players don’t make 2nd and 3rd teams

@MrBuggy865

2 жыл бұрын

Trae young has accomplished more in his career so far than luka but his size eliminates his ability atm to get on the 1st team because of bias. So I think you have to add the 2nd and 3rd teams, or at least the 2nd teams. Also no dpoy list in the rankings? Also I think there should be points for at least the top 25 in each category since a lot of these players stats are super close to each other, 10th versus 15-20th usually isn’t going to be that huge of a difference.

@johncates812

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrBuggy865 The Hawks beat the 76ers last year in the playoff and the Hawks were -19 with Trae on the court.

@mixedpleasure4324

2 жыл бұрын

What most missing is steals and blocks since the both an important part of the game but we all know it wouldnt change much for Mj since he is top 3 all time in steals per game and overall i think but for some other it would help their raking an a important steal or block at the right time can win you a game so its a shame its missing

@axelgiosido4997

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrBuggy865 What has Trae achieved that Luka hasnt? Ahh the ECF?? Yah, against a stacked Clippers team vs Luka and his boys? Yahh thats why despite averaging a triple double and 35ppg in a 7game series still didnt help them win because Trae is better than Luka right?

I feel like everyone knows that MJ, LeBron and Kareem have solidified their spots at top 3

@kristalharwood7451

2 жыл бұрын

I think Kobe is top 3

@Connor629

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much yeah, most people have the 3 at interchangeable spots but they’re probably 90% of peoples top 3

@andrecarter1590

2 жыл бұрын

no lebron is not top 10

@theerror5652

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrecarter1590 where else should he be?

@sikotixplxyz312

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrecarter1590 Your definitely a lebron hater 😂😂😂

Rondo being on the list instead of Dwight is crazy

You lost me at Kobe Bryant being the best shot creator in NBA history.

Glad to see Rodman in that list. Nobody remembers that when he stepped in the game it meant trouble for the rival, doing the dirty work, defending all positions and getting 15-20 rebounds a game. Love for the worm.

@SmoothJK

2 жыл бұрын

He was a basketball genius.

@darkmatter7668

2 жыл бұрын

Lol we remember 😏

I'm surprised you didn't count DPoY. Personally, I'd value that as equal to or slightly above RS MVP. Also, why no steals or blocks?

@noturavxragejo721

2 жыл бұрын

I personally feel like he didn't do those because it wouldn't be fair. For someone like Hakeem being able to get points in those defensive stats for blocks, but for someone like kyrie not being able to get those points cause he isnt a defensive type of player.

@yoyoyong211

2 жыл бұрын

@@noturavxragejo721 Isn't that the point? Everyone on this list has some defensive prowess great or small. Hakeem being an elite 2 way player deserves his credit. Kyrie being a mediocre defensive type of player should not be ignored.

@eg6104

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoyoyong211 bro do you watch Kyrie? He’s one of the best defensive guards in the league tf

@LakDel

2 жыл бұрын

I certainly wouldn't count DPOY or best scorer. Just like I wouldn't count MVPs. Because there's no second, 2rd, 3rd, 4th... place. One gets all the credit and others don't exist at all. You could be the 2nd best defensive player for 10 years and have 10 different guys taking first place, overall you're definitely the best defensive player over these 10 years and get no points. You could score 28 pts for 10 seasons and never be the best scorer.

@jonjuko8859

2 жыл бұрын

Steals/blocks are heavily influenced by era and DPOY is no where near MVP, if you value DPOY like an MVP guys like Dwight are top 20

Jimmy: not my personal opinion on who’s the best 75 Also Jimmy: here’s 110 players I FELT deserve to contend..

The fact that KD isn’t here is a crime

Jimmy is genuinely one of the few NBA heads that knows how to use numbers to make a point. He doesn't just throw them out with some oddly specific record like ESPN and most TV analysts.

@EricCKeys

2 жыл бұрын

Except his "numbers" include subjective "stats" that rise players that shouldn't be on the list like Tim Hardaway or Derrick Rose.

@whateverreally1347

2 жыл бұрын

I mean this isn't statistically meaningful in any way

@panner11

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I feel that Jimmy is just as guilty of this as those you mentioned. He often uses misleading charts with manipulated scales to make things look crazy when there isn't necessarily statistically significant going on. He is a good storyteller though. The videos are good entertainment, but not ideal in terms of stats analysis.

@panner11

2 жыл бұрын

@@EricCKeys Also, he gave Bill Russell the most points for finals MVP because the award didn't exist yet, but didn't give any other player that played before the award existed any points at all. It's not fair to those players and an inconsistent application of the rule.

@whateverreally1347

2 жыл бұрын

@@panner11 exactly. It's basically just subjective opinions transformed into a number.

"Shot Making" -Players who can create and make their own shots -Players that can put the ball on the basket on demand just about anywhere 13th place Michael Jordan LOL

@ursula3438

2 жыл бұрын

The whole "shotmaking" category was ill thought out in the first place imo, because it introduced an unfair bias towards guards. Why not just take an efficiency stat like true shooting or fg% instead.

@menace244

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that shit was wild did you see that. I was looking at the top of the list like. “Ayo where Jordan at”

@Connor629

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the whole concept was a bit odd. Centers get gimped, which for guys like Kareem for instance, who literally only needed one shot to be able to be the all time leading scorer, makes no sense. Then when the 3 pt shot came around it automatically rewards them for adopting it while yes is a great skill to have, punishes the people who were making shots against guys in the paint or mid range before the 3pt shot became so main stream.

@andrecarter1590

2 жыл бұрын

@@ursula3438 because fg%would favor big men who play around the basket of course there's would be higher because they mostly dunk or layup the ball

@panashe5268

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrecarter1590 if we’re being completely honest he made the ‘shot making’ category for Kobe because Kobe was nowhere to be seen on player efficiency rating and would’ve been below Magic and Duncan without it. Because if we’re being honest, shot making comes with efficiency, I could make a 360 layup but if I’m not doing it consistently then I’m not a good shot maker. That just seemed like a very bias list especially since he said “from anywhere on the court” then put Steph who shoots better then Kobe from everywhere on the court percentage wise, below Kobe who was a below average outside shooter.

i know this one was recent (relatively) but do you think you could do an updated version of this vid? Obviously it seems like you had a lot to go through to gather the info so i wont bother you too much about it but it would be cool. I wanna see if steph moved into the top 10 and if kd stayed or got kicked out of it and where big homie from denver might be

Very late to the party, but I think an interesting ranking to use would be a player who changed how the game is played, or even changed the rules. I would have to give first to Shaq because he broke backboards and changed how they were built. Other people that would be considered for changing how the NBA is played would be Steph and Klay, really pushing the change for more three pointers. I would also say that Tim Duncan and the spurs roster are also very important because more international players started to get drafted following their insane performances.