Would you get a coffee at Macca's in the US? We were actually surprised, it was better (and cheaper) than Starbucks :)

@O2BSoLucky

3 жыл бұрын

Do you get on the app on your phone in the 'my rewards' buy five coffees get one free? Bonus coffee ;-)

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

@@O2BSoLucky yes we do! Almost there 😊

@nitramluap

3 жыл бұрын

“...better (and cheaper) than Starbucks” - to be fair, that’s a pretty low bar 🤣 I’ve found many great cafes in the USA when travelling that easily are as good as those in Australia - the only difference was they were harder to find and were usually located outside the ‘flyover’ states 🤭 A true long black is a single espresso with hot water to make up a full cup. If you draw the espresso for too long you get all the bitter elements and it ruins the coffee. Piccolos are my go-to. They’re like a mini-flat white more than a mini-latte I think, but more concentrated as there is less milk. It’s about half the volume of a normal coffee.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

@@nitramluap piccolos sound good! Will give it a try next time we're in straya

@jonathont7866

3 жыл бұрын

Everything is better than Starbucks.

In Australia you select the style of milk: full cream, low fat, skim etc.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers 😊

@aussiebornandbred

3 жыл бұрын

I just want milk that tastes like real milk🤣😂🤣😂(from the tv ad)

@Stells555

3 жыл бұрын

Or if you are like me, select the Soy option.

@versacegang4140

3 жыл бұрын

@@Stells555 or the new Milklab almond is actually heaps nice. Not watery and almond essency like normal almond milk which I find gross.

@Kodiak1234

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I don’t like coffee so I will order a skinny chai latte - which is skim milk with chai (tea) flavoured with cinnamon and other spices

McDonald's used to do filter coffee but very few people in Australia like it. When they introduced McCafe the filtered coffee was discontinued.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Smart move lol

@infinityscarefuldriver7377

3 жыл бұрын

Australians don’t like it because filter coffee burns the coffee and makes it taste nasty. 🤢

@owenshebbeare2999

3 жыл бұрын

The filtered stuff was great after a night-shift, to wake me up, but otherwise wasn't very good.

@canto10mosha65

Жыл бұрын

Tim Horton’s make good filtered coffee. Next best thing would be Dunkin’s. But that’s if you’re really desperate.

Jenny is a proper coffee snob. I love it! ☕️

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Lol that she is 😊

@1969firefox

3 жыл бұрын

@@twotravelingkings she have bag packed ready to get Australia the minute she can.

@its_Today_

3 жыл бұрын

Coffee is Serious stuff, thoroughly agree :-)

A few years ago in Australia McDonald’s had an advertising campaign where they apologised for the bad coffee they had been offering and vowed to do better. While I wouldn’t go to McCafé by choice it is a lot better now. When you order coffee in Australia you specify the milk you want. Ie full cream, low fat, skim, almond, soy, lactose free etc. it is not specified on the menu but as a footnote.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

They're getting there!

@infinityscarefuldriver7377

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s kinda just assumed that if you say latte then you mean full cream milk....

@arnebaekhansen

2 жыл бұрын

More than that - the secret is the special milk for baristas... you can't buy it off the shelf, only from wholesalers. Different protein structure, denatures differently under heat.

Yes McCafe Australia works the same way that you just described the cafe in Hong Kong.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for confirming 😊

Fun fact. When I was working in a cafe in my uni days espresso was also called a short black. So there was a short black and a long black.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍 good to know!

McCafe actually started in Melbourne, Australia, before rolling out worldwide

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Smart move!

@malx2316

3 жыл бұрын

Nah it was actually Sydney

@australianaus6453

2 жыл бұрын

Melbourne*

don’t need a separate “non-fat” or “decaf” line item. all you have to do is ask for skim or decaf on any of the coffee types when you order. Decaf or Soy might be 50c extra but skim will be the same price. also, where was the chocolate dusting on the cap? not a cap without the choc dust, otherwise it’s just a foamier than usual latte.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Missed that chocolate dusting!

A long black is a double shot of espresso with added water. It is similar to the way you drink black drip coffee except because it's made with Espresso it has a better flavour. I believe it is also similar to what you call an Americano but with a stronger Aroma and taste.

@dekeonus

3 жыл бұрын

depending on the cafe the difference between long black and americano is whether you add espresso to the hot water or the hot water to the espresso. There isn't any difference in taste, however presentation differs (dissipation of the crema).

@n8b5

3 жыл бұрын

long black: espresso shot pulled onto hot water so the crema sits on top, means you can scoop it off if you want else you need to stir it americano: hot water poured onto espresso shot, no chance to scoop off the crema depending on how good the coffee grinder is, the crema can have fine grounds suspended in the foam which can taste bitter in Australia long black tastes very different to a filter coffee from light roasted beans, but if McCafe USA uses the same coffee beans for both drip and Americano they might taste similar

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know! Thanks everyone 😊

Yeah, you got it right...it’s usually a double shot on the top of already steaming double shot of water. You have to do it that way around so that the coffee still has a crema. I’m totally being a snob, but it also honestly does affect the flavour. Yeah, I’ve had a few moments in my life with travelling in Australia where I’ve had to have a maccas and I think the way I’d sum it up is that they’re not great coffees, but they’re still better than most coffees I’ve had in a North America.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

True, good to know!

The real coffee shake is made with real Espresso rather than a coffee syrup.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds tasty

If you want a low fat option with your coffee, just ask for skinny milk as opposed to the regular milk.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍 nice

@12:16 "see how it's getting wrinkly" - that means the milk was scalded ie over heated, poor steam control on the part of the barista.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Oof 😅

In Australia you just ask for skim milk for the non fat options. We just don't need to spell it out.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Haha nice 😊

@tonyswietochowski2282

3 жыл бұрын

Or we say “skinny”. Skinny flat white, skinny latté etc.

@timmcgrath676

3 жыл бұрын

Soy wheat cow goat 🐐

@owenshebbeare2999

3 жыл бұрын

@@timmcgrath676 ..oat, almond, kangaroo, wombat!

Loving these USA vs Australia comparison videos!! Keep them coming!

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Will do 😊

A latte should just be coffee & steamed milk mixed, where as a cappuccino should be coffee, steamed milk & foam with distinctive layers. Generally a cappuccino is stronger coffee & less milky than a latte. Cappuccino generally comes with a shake of chocolate powder on top too.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they were missing that chocolate powder!

@melbclayman

3 жыл бұрын

Mmmm... A lot of places have choc powder on the capp foam but strictly speaking no chocolate should be involved. Capps made in Italy won't have choc powder. It's like the Free Parking house rule where you put taxes in the middle of the board and win them when you land on Free Parking. No such genuine rule.

@mickdijenner1590

3 жыл бұрын

Choc on top of CAP is an Oz only adaptation. Latte is 10 mm of foam Cap is 25 mm therefore more coffee to milk ratio = stronger coffee taste. Flatty is no or minimal foam like 1mm.

It's so awesome to see Americans that know how to say Melbourne properly! You truly are committed to learning the most about places you possibly can. Really refreshing for us to see.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

We try! :) We enjoyed our brief visit to Melbourne

The only time we get Maccas coffee is when travelling down to Brisbane from the Sunshine Coast, we get a sausage and egg burger for breakfast and a flat white. The coffees not bad, not café quality but good, the big bonus is it’s free for over 60’s 😋 with a burger.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

A long black is effectively the same as an Americano. The difference between a long black and an Americano lies in what you pour first. A long black is made by pouring hot water into your cup, then adding espresso. An Americano is made by pouring espresso into the cup first, then the hot water.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

Hey guys, really got into your videos recently. Really love your insights and warm demeanours. I’m from Sydney , near Burwood where you guys once ate. Keep up the great work and we hope you can come back and enjoy more of Australia soon.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support and kind words! Means a lot 😊

Love the vids guys. Such a great vibe from you two.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much 😊 we appreciate the support

I used to go to a McCafe in my city Australia when they had real baristas, however, they cut out the real baristas and just put regular staff in the McCafes as a cost cutting measure the coffee became almost as bad as Starbucks dishwater.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Oof, doesn't sound good!

@triarb5790

3 жыл бұрын

I made the mistake if ordering one once. Bleeeeeeee. Never, never,never again.

@ginalou5774

3 жыл бұрын

It often depends on the individual stores. If the store is company owned there’s usually a trained barista (probably mid to late teens but still has done the course!) if you’re store is franchise operated they might just put the kid who had a couple of three hour training sessions on the job 🤣

@sigdawg8355

3 жыл бұрын

Depend on the reataurant i guess. Some maccas do train their barista.

@pettaduffy6561

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the franchise, the one down the road do a decent flat white

Love these videos. Keep them coming :)

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Will do! 😊

Australian Macca's Coffee can be very hit and miss. It has improved since they started, but should be avoided unless desperate.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Haha 😂

@dino2170

3 жыл бұрын

i agree, there are plenty of cafes to go to for true coffee lovers.

@heystevo82

3 жыл бұрын

McCafe is a last resort for sure. Handy for 4am drive thru for me though, being a shift worker 👌

@jamied1579

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, we've been spoiled by a well developed coffee/café culture for some time

Long Black and Americano are almost like cousins with similar history. The Americano came from US troops in Italy during WW2. Espresso was easily obtained but it was watered down to be similar to what Americans were used to. They poured hot water on top of the esspreso (important distinction), and was watered down quite a lot. Italians called this dirty water. The long black became particularly popular with Italian-Australians who migrated from Italy post war. They brought the "dirty water" recipe but altered it to make a long black. The two flaws that led to the name "dirty water" were fixed. The first Americano flaw is that by pouring water second, the process of making a true Americano disturbed the crema. Instead, espresso is poured onto water in a long black, keeping the crema intact. Secondly, a long black uses less water, more espresso (or sometimes both in a strong long black). This makes it quite a lot stronger than what US troops back in WW2 would have accepted. But tastes are changing. I have often thought that the Americano was more about caffeination and volume and long black was more about flavour over volume. These days, it's not uncommon to find that baristas in the US making a Americano will add the shot last - because keeping the crema not only looks better, but does add extra bitterness to that first sip.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

It all makes sense now! Thanks for the info 😊

A babycino is an espresso sized cup with just the frothed milk sprinkled with powdered chocolate. It’s what you order for your kids when you have a real coffee. My grandson, aged 2 and some months loves them

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds tasty 😊 thanks for the explanation!

You have to try the coffee mocha and the coffee trap I think you'll love it

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍

Yes, you guys have to come back. There are just so many things that you missed out on over here.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

We agree 😊

Piccolo/piccolo latte, piccolo is Italian for small so directly translates to small latte. They also should be made with a ristretto shot (Italian for restricted) which is approximately 3/4 of a espresso shot. The closest in NA is a Cortado.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know, thank you! 😊

A standard traditional Iced Chocolate and Iced Coffee is either chocolate syrup/espresso, milk, a scoop of ice cream and cream on top. Most cafes serve them. Milkshakes are the same as the US but with no cream. Iced lattes are pretty new here and trendy atm that's why Maccas just introduced the flavoured ones for Summer. I prefer iced lattes to Iced coffee usually as they are healthier (espresso,milk and ice) and not so rich with all the ice cream and cream but I loved them growing up. I've been getting Maccas iced coffees all Summer haha.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

The iced chocolate sounds so good! Not something you'll find in the US

with all coffee's in Australia you can get any flouring added like caramel, hazelnut, vanilla, and any milk, full, skim, lactose, almond, soy, oat. and can mix and match also, there are tropical smoothies and mixed berry smoothies, but just like the frappes they are not actually made in the cafe area. and the long black is the same thing as the American. this is from someone that works a Mcdonalds in Australia.

@twotravelingkings

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know! Thanks for the info 😊

Can’t go past a flat white in my opinion. I have one every morning! I had a flat white at Maccas in Australia a few months ago and was very surprised, it was actually quite good. ☕️👍🏼

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@fergusmccosker2067

3 жыл бұрын

Also if you are wondering what a flat white is it's basically a cappuccino without the frothed milk and chocolate dusting

Flavours in the latte are not mentioned on the menu but you can add them as an extra.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍

This channel deserves more subscribers! Come on internet! Hello from UK 🇬🇧

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers! Thanks for the support 😊 we're getting there!

I’m an Aussie and I never drink coffee at all but I drink a lot of tea but only English breakfast. I also order hot chocolate when I’m in a cafe etc. When we went to Europe in 2019 I ordered a lot of hot chocolate as we travelled Europe and the best I’ve ever had in my life was at a cafe at the Blue Grotto in Malta. It’s a long way to travel from Australia for another one though. Oh yeah! Marshmallows floating on top are a must if they offer them.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍 nice

Not that I didn't enjoy the rest of your video, but I loved the personality in the bloopers at the end. Let's see more of that 😁

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Haha there's usually always some bloopers, will keep them coming 😊

I think McDonald’s Australia has been watching your videos because we know have smoothies on the menu 😂😂. Funny thing is, I thought about this video after I seen the ad for it 👍🏽

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Lol they're watching..

Nice video, thanks for risking yourselves by buying Maccas coffee. I worked for 2 US companies, travelled a lot from Melbourne and Sydney to Ann Arbor and New York. Needed coffee to keep going after jet lag. Settled on single or double espresso. Coffee hit not a lot of water, milk or sugar. It was also best way to see who could best make an espresso shot. Found Starbucks ok in US , different to UK, Singapore and Dubai. The small you have looks more like a medium or large in some other counties. Best coffee ever, Italy, single shot early in morning sit at bar in coffee shop with loud Italian voices all around. The shot is what is important, all the milk and sugar in the world can not compensate for a bad shot. Thanks again for video and hope to see you back in oz soon. PS New York had some good coffee places

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

We heard about some good places in New York! Thanks for watching 😊

Piccolo latte is served in the small espresso cup and is just a single shot of espresso topped with milk in the style of a latte. So literally a stronger, mini latte. Macchiato is similar in that it is served in the same, small espresso cup and is 1 shot of espresso but unlike the piccolo they don’t use the steamed milk, they just put a spoon of milk foam over the top of the espresso, very much stronger and closer to an espresso but almost smoother and thicker because of the milk foam.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know thanks! Definitely would give a piccolo latte a try. Sounds great 😊

I got coffee at Maccas back when they offered it free to healthcare workers last year. I found the standard ranged from OK to (surprisingly) pretty good - depending on who was making the coffee. You could certainly get better coffee, but I'm not going to argue with free. You can actually also find good coffee throughout US/Canada as long as you trawl through the google maps reviews for highest rated cafes/find a coffee review website for the city you're in. It might be less practical for a local that probably wants to have a decent coffee shop in an accessible/convenient location to go to regularly, but as a tourist meandering through the city on a whim; it works great.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍 true!

It all depends on what maccas you go to, some have the space to have the McCafe next to the service counter, but some larger Maccas have the McCafe seperate to the service counter where you collect your meal and then collect your coffee. Happy travels

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough

We also have lactose free milk option, soy (blechh), almond milk.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@triarb5790

3 жыл бұрын

And oat milk. I defy anyone to try milking an almond, an oat flake, or a soy bean....really hard to fit the teats on.

@Minceir

3 жыл бұрын

@@triarb5790 need a microscope and specialised tweezers 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Minceir

3 жыл бұрын

@@triarb5790 🤣🤣🤣🤣

My wife and I buy flat whites at Maccas McCafe here in Perth Western Australia all the time. It’s something we do a couple of times a week. You have to collect it from the McCafe counter too.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

Aussie Maccas also offers the syrup versions the US does. You just ask for the syrups to be added. Hazelnut, vanilla, caramel etc.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

So my understanding is Short black: shot of espresso (can be made double) Long black: water with a shot of espresso ontop (to not disturb the crema) Americano: espresso shot diluted with water Essentially a long black is an Americano but made in a different order, which gives a slightly different taste

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍 thanks!

Love these vids! Long black is a black coffee.. but it's water first then the shot on top so you still get the crema. It's the opposite of an americano which is shot of coffee first, then water. Piccolo latte is a latte with 3/4 the amount of milk so it's stronger and smaller.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! We have fun making them :)

An Americano is essentially a long black which is just a shot of coffee mixed with some hot water (usually 1 shot every 8oz of water). The difference is usually that an Americano is filtered coffee.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

I love the U.S. version of “small”. It would be a medium, verging on large in Australia. I don’t personally do Maccas but it is often the only choice for coffee on night shift. Love your videos, thankyou both.

Hi! Just to answer a few of your questions/make a few comments that I haven't seen yet in the comments... - This may vary from Maccas to Maccas, but the one I work at in Melbourne, we have full cream milk, skim (nonfat), almond, lactose free and soy all as options for every hot and iced drink (not for frappes though). - And we also recently added iced chai lattes to the menu :) - A piccolo latte, I believe, is pretty much just a mini latte! 1shot of espresso and then milk like a latte, but it's usually in the same size cup as an espresso shot/macchiato. - An iced chocolate is not the same as a chocolate milkshake. An iced chocolate can be made differently at different cafes, but at maccas we just use ice, milk, and a chocolate syrup. Some cafes also add ice cream. It's not blended though. A milkshake would likely not have the ice, and would have ice cream, and would be blended more I believe. (Correct me if I'm wrong, I probably didn't explain that very well either haha, hopefully that makes sense, but the main point is that they are different, and also all different to frappes). And I have a question! Do cappuccinos and mochas in America not have any chocolate powder on them? And mochas no foam either? :)

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the insider info 😊 and yeah most cafes in the US put cocoa powder or cinnamon on the top. And maybe whipped cream for mochas? Haha we don't drink them much so not sure!

Melbourne Australia here. In warm weather, I always a coffee frappe with no cream from Maccas on my way to work, in cooler weather, it’s always a McCafé hot chocolate.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds good 😊

I go for the real coffee shake when looking for a cold drink. My usual is a dirty chai, a chai latte with a shot of espresso - I know right, tea and coffee but it just works. 😀. With the no fat options, we can customise our coffee on the app and choose full fat or skim as well as other choices like soy milk, etc. Love your videos. Will remember to get a latte if I am over there.

@WatchingDude

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds interesting. I never thought the try something like that, thanks for the tip.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Dirty chai sounds tasty 😊

Literally got an ad for an espresso maker after this. 😂

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

with coffees here in aust customers can add caramel, vanilla, hazelnut syrup to their coffees, we also do lactose free, skim, full cream, almond milk in your coffees.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

You are correct, a long black (certainly in New Zealand) is two shots of expresso with some hot water. Depending on the cafe the water is in the cup or in a jug so that you can add water to taste. I tend to have a triple shot long black in a tulip (small cup) so that the barrister can't add too much water. I didn't drink much coffee when I last visited the US so I don't have anything to compare, but when I visited the UK five years ago and asked for a triple shot long black I either got a blank look or a massive cup filled to the brim with water, diluting the coffee to the point that you could hardly taste it. Fortunately on my return journey I spent a week in Italy where the coffee was truly great.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Lol that's strong coffee!

@iallso1

3 жыл бұрын

@@twotravelingkings you gotta taste it, lol.

McCafe was the only place I could get a real espresso based flat white where I lived while in Japan. I had to drive to the next town over so it was a real treat to get one from time to time.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Worth it I'm sure!

4.90 for a medium latte from my Maccas. Not exactly a bargain, but it can be pretty good depending on who makes it. Bunnings has a cafe and they make pretty good coffee too. A popular drink in South Australia is Farmers Union Iced Coffee, which is a prepackaged drink you can buy pretty much anywhere that has a fridge, even Maccas. It's sells more than Coca Cola.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Oof, and heard about farmers union yeah.

You two are just lovely genuine people. It a pleasure watching your videos. I’m glad you enjoyed your time with us downunder despite having to endure the lockdown. Feel free to migrate back if you get a chance. Love that you like vegemite. There area few other Aussie icons it seems you missed A classic “Bunnings” sausage sizzle A Golden Gaytime (the best ice cream lolly ever) Banana bread is everywhere Finally as a coffee geek it’s my impression that An Americano and a long black are almost the same. Americano is espresso with water on top. Long black is espresso on top of hot water (this preserves the “crema” for a richer taste

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words! 😊 And coffee tips

Non-fat coffee is not specifically listed on the menu, because all or most places have multiple milk options: full fat, low fat, almond milk, soy milk etc. You can choose your milk type for whichever drink you want.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍 nice

I don't know if anyone has ever said this before but Jenny reminds me sooooo much of Pam from the office. And I mean that as a compliment

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah we've gotten that before

Don't forget guys Australia has been judged to have the best baristas in the world . At McCafe In Australia you get your coffee at the cafe and if you want hash browns you go to the other counter.

@susanhiggins7428

3 жыл бұрын

I actually like MacDonalds coffee...

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thanks 😊

@anthonybelham1466

3 жыл бұрын

World barista championships.2 aussies have won it. 2003 and 2015

We don't tend to specify non-fat options on a coffee menu in Australia because most people will specify what type of milk they would like - a non-fat latte (made with skim milk) would be referred to as a "skinny latte" for example.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍

Babycino is frothed milk for the kids so they can have a cuppa with their parents. It's pretty cute.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds nice 😊

Macdonalds Shake we call a thickshake which from other Americans describe it the same as a milkshake. The long black is the same as a Americano from my understanding. Our non fat is selectable via the option during checkout for our coffee selections not shakes. Hope this helps

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍

Okay even though this comment is a bit late, as i work at a maccas in Aus the coffee options are more like you can get shakes varieties from chocolate, strawberry, vanilla and coffee plus when getting a type of coffee you can choose your milk from lactose full and lactose skim, skim milk, almond and soy plus the regular full cream milk and then you get all the different choices of coffee

The American menu seems to be filled out by listing non fat and caramel options for everything but in aus you can just ask for caramel to be added to any coffee as well as different kinds of milk be it skim, almond or whatever takes your fancy

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

V true

Miss you guys!! From an American living in Melbourne.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

😊👋

Hello, In Aus we have for eg Latte on the menu, then you ask what type of milks there are, Maccas have skim, soy and normal. Local shops will often have some sort of soy free animal free as well. You just have to ask.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍

Regarding the history of McCafe. You're spot on in that it originated in Melbourne (in 1993). Before this, McDonalds was attempting to push percolator pot coffee but no one was buying it (particularly in Melbourne). It expanded throughout Australia in the early 90's making it's way to the US in 2001. In Australia it has always been a separate entity to the restaurant, and therefore is done aside from the restaurant - possibly to distinguish the two types of product and potentially, the two types of customers. By coffee chain sales (this excludes cafes), McCafe is the largest is Australia. Its success in Australia contrasts with a stuttering in the US (the reverse is true for Starbucks in Australia). It could be that espressos are seen as everyday drinks, for everyday prices in Australia in a similar way to non-espresso "cup of joe" is a common persons drink in the US. Chains like Starbucks have fallen flat in Australia, by attempting to apply what would work in the US here (it failed), but obviously the type of drinks (large variety, large volumes, and in some cases a lot of sugar) appeal to the American market in a way the simple and straightforward espresso range might not. Sure McCafe can add Frappuccinos® to its menu, but these are really a trademarked Starbucks drink. Argh... the silliness of trademarking proper nouns (they have to call them Coffee Frape's)

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Very true! Interesting the comparison between Starbucks and Maccas in Australia and the US. Chains here (Dunkin) are starting to introduce more espresso based drinks but I don't know if they will take off. Seen as more "luxury" drinks like you would buy at Starbucks compared to your basic dunkin cup of joe. We like our limited edition seasonal items here in the US too haha. Strange coffee concoctions are created...

We have for example latte then at the end of the menu will have a list of the different syrup flavours to add if you choose. There will be a list of different milks if you have a preference. So for example I would order an Almond milk hazelnut latte.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh gotcha

a long black has a similar makeup to the americano but a bit less water in it and therefore a bit stronger. preperation is slightly different too.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍

A long black is typically 2 shots of espresso over hot water (the closest to this is an americano in the US). I think you guys would love the piccolo.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds close to a flat white the piccolo. Sounds good!

Iced chocolate is the best! You need a proper milkshake glass preferably. Chocolate syrup poured in first, usually down the sides. Put in a scoop of ice cream. Pour in milk. Whipped cream on top. Preferably fresh. It isn’t stirred. Iced coffee is also a thing. Some places like McDonald’s put in ice instead of ice cream. Not the same thing.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, iced chocolate sounds great!

Macca's coffee *can* be ok at times, but it depends on the store. One I go to has a very nice flat white that I will get on the way to work sometimes, it measures up to some of the barista coffee, but if you're looking for consistency across the stores you're going to be disappointed. On another note, us Aussies don't say moe-ka, we use the short, hard sounding o, as in dot, or cot, mocha.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough!

I didn't see if anyone else wrote it about our Aussie McCafe's or anywhere you buy your coffee's when you're out and about (dining in or take away), you can specify which type of milk you'd like in it, so for Jenny, just as an example, re: your love of flat whites, you can have regular milk (full cream milk), skim milk (non fat), soy milk and other milk types. You just have to specify your milk type preference, sometimes they'll ask you ;-) any coffee you have milk in, you just specify what kind of milk you'd like :) and for the long black in Australia - basically, that's just black coffee (no milk) lol. Probably similar to your filtered coffee machine in your home! :D Your videos are pretty cool to watch as an Aussie - I live up in sunny Qld, though obviously when you guys were here, was when the bushfires were raging - it was the worst in the last century, that's for sure. They actually started up here in SE QLD and as it had been a drought, the bush (forested) areas went ablaze with the speed and ferocity as if someone had poured fuel over something akin to 40,000 hectares from Queensland to Victoria - so many people lost homes, livelihoods, livestock, pets, their own lives trying to protect their homes, but when the fire's burning that hot - rather like what the California wild fires must be like I'd imagine, and you get fire tornados, it's scary stuff. The first of the fires started in September 2019 up here in south east Queensland, more recently the weathers gone the other way and we've been having really severe floods (*eye roll*) which was really bad in so many places, but again affected the entire eastern seaboard of Australia, meanwhile, Western Australia was on fire instead... Eh, such as life in Australia! Check out a poem written in the 1906, about Australia, Dorothea Mackellar's famous poem “My Country” :D

The first thing they ask when you order a coffee at maccas is if its ‘full cream’ or not. My standard order is a large flat white, on full cream, with an extra shot and two sugars. Maccas are notorious for not stirring the sugar in. They used to be notorious for making it way too hot, but they stopped that after a few spills in drive thru.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

In Melbourne we like our coffee the way it should be STRONG. The automated fresh ground coffee machines at 7/11 and shell petrol stations are great basic coffees. Fluro wearing workers know a good coffee.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

I (Jenny) would do well in Melbourne. Strong coffee is the best 😊

Hi Kings2! Cool comparison. I think you've definitely made the case that when in the States and desperate for a coffee (which is usually me), bypass Starbucks and head for a McCafe. Since PieFace in New York went under (I used to start every day with an "Aussie Iced Coffee") my latest Go-To was a Chick-Fil-A Iced Latte Shake, doctored with some extra filtered coffee from the hotel foyer. Ya gotta work hard for a coffee in the USA. I feel you guys have put so much effort into this, surely there is a money-making opportunity in there for you somehow. All this research cannot go to waste.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Haha we love making the content and all the comments from everyone. We learn so much 😊 and yay Chick-fil-A! They are great!

Smoothies were on the menu in Australia. I’m not sure if they were canceled or if they come back as a special like the McRib

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Haha fair enough

@stickypunch

3 жыл бұрын

I think you're right. I've definitely ordered them before. Maybe it's a summer option to compete with Boost juice.

@achiruel

3 жыл бұрын

There's tropical and mixed berry smoothies on the menu right now.

@ArsenicApplejuice

3 жыл бұрын

@@achiruel where? Maybe it’s regional?

Gotta come back guys 🤙🤙

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds good to us 😊

My wife is a bit of a coffee addict and though she considers Maccas coffee here in Australia moderately drinkable, she'd still much prefer the local café. The coffee of absolute last resort if she's totally desperate and thinks she's about to die from caffeine withdrawal is "servo coffee" - or gas station coffee as you might call it 😀. As you'd know from your time here, courtesy of a large migration here by Greeks and Italians during the 1950s and 60s, Aussies are spoiled for coffee choice and Maccas coffee just becomes a convenience thing. We lived & worked in Seattle for a year, a few years back. I think most coffee around the world is better than Starbucks. It hung around for 7 years but the company lost $105 million in our market by the time it withdrew from Australia!

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

You are spoiled with your coffee over there! 😊

A Mocha in Australia is basically a latte with a shot of chocolate - or a hot chocolate with a shot of coffee! There’s always a foam top on one though. I once explained that to a cafe in Italy not realising that Italian hot chocolates are thick! So the ‘mocha’ I got in Italy with a thick hot coffee chocolate concoction!

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Still sounds tasty :)

Hi you two - enjoying your channel. BTW I know you would never walk up and order a Long Black in the USA! But the Long Black it is renamed to Americano for the US because it meant to be with espresso, not just drip coffee. My home espresso machine (Breville Oracle) is labelled Long black, and same machine in US is labelled Americano. Piccolo Latte is latte but the size of a single shot espresso plus foamed milk ~ 60ml about 2 fl.Oz in US. Most place including Maccas you can get full strength milk , low fat milk, almond milk, soy milk, to cater for non-dairy sometimes macadamia milk (the best non dairy taste). I think US Macca is using an auto machine. If you get to a AU Maccas McCafe they will have an actual espresso machine otherwise they would not compete with the cafe's. Look forward to seeing you back!

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks for all the tips!

Maccas used to have smoothies, but I think they were part of the regular menu rather than the cafe menu. The banana Berry smoothie was ace, I'm dirty they stopped them, we don't have any real decent smoothie options here in the outback where I live.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting!

Can they be made on soy in the US? Because when I drank coffee, I would get a soy latte at McDonalds. That's a standard option. McCafes here are generally quite separate from the rest of the store, with separate counters. Unless the only outlet is a big McCafe, where you will buy burgers as well. In a lot of the older stores they have crammed the McCafe in as an afterthought, so they are closer to the rest, but newer stores seem to have a better layout, with the McCafe being like its own little coffee shop, with all the pastries, etc you might want from a normal one. Like there, you can buy all the McCafe stuff at the drive-through. Re the iced chocolate or iced coffee - not a milkshake (McDonalds calls them "shakes" but we call them "milkshakes"), but chilled drinks with their flavourings (coffee or choc), topped by a big dollop of ice cream and then whipped cream, although some places just use cream, and sprinkled with chocolate. In the normal part of the restaurant, if you order a coffee, it's drip coffee - bitter and unpleasant to most people, but cheap. You get used to the flavours you grow up with, and your like or dislike can change over time when faced with alternatives. I no longer drink tea or coffee. I was more of a tea drinker, and loved chai as well. The stronger the tea, the better. But I'm old now and have heart issues, and any caffeine can set off terrible palpitations and my ppor hear feels exhausted. Now I love hibiscus tea, with a little sugar, and mixed with sparkling grape or apple juice. :)

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure about the soy option!

In Australia a babycino is a small cup of milk foam with a shake of chocolate powder

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Fun 😊

FYI. MAC CAFE does have a choice of skinny milk (low fat) soy milk, almond milk and full cream, people just ask for it, it’s not usually on the board people just know it’s available. 😊

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

in australia we dont have "non-fat" as a separate option, when you order they ask what milk you would like from a large selection including non fat options

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Right 👍

Here’s one for you to try make it yourself with whatever brand coffee that you prefer overheat teaspoon and three heat teaspoons of milo and then if you prefer to have sugar or whatever sweetener try that that’ll get you closer to the Australian version of the mocha

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds nice 😊

I'd like you to go into the store and see if they have an espresso machine like the ones you find here in Australia.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Can't right now because of you know what but might have to make a follow up video 😊

Latte and Cappuccino should be mostly hot milk on top of a double espresso shot. Cappuccino adds milk foam and chocolate powder on top. Yours looked like American coffee with powdered milk added.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Haha could've been!

Hi my friend.. Have a happy day this morning. Your friend in Korea will support you

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

😊

My Starbucks order in USA was a double strength latte no foam it was before they put flat whites on the menu

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

We didn't like the starbucks flat white 😬

@jo902100

3 жыл бұрын

@@twotravelingkings I don’t blame you 🤮

You need to visit us when COVID is well gone. Why not start in Melbourne this time and try the McCafe at the top end of the "Paris End" of Collins Street, The kerbside tables are alongside busy traffic but the area is a great starting point for discovering how different Melbourne is to Sydney. Phil.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Solid plan 😊 thanks Phil

@phillipj.moodie3077

3 жыл бұрын

@@twotravelingkings As a follow on thought, and as an Oz Side Hustle, why don't you write to the CEO's of the major Coffee Companies in Sydney and Melbourne, and ask them if there Advertising Agency would be interested in sponsoring a KZread based "Advertorial" based on your 2-4 week return to Sydney and Melbourne to catchup on the sightseeing and coffee drinking that was bought to an early end by COVID. I have Sales and Marketing Director experience in the largest Corporations in Australia and I can assure you that what a competent Marketing Director needs is a Concept because the implementation is what the Marketing executive is paid to do. All you need to do is write a one page (Maximum) letter and attach a reference to your Coffee videos, which explain themselves. I would offer to set it up for you, because it would be fun, but I have been in a single closed room in a COVID 19 Recovery Facility in Melbourne, for the last 10 weeks, after spending the previous 12 weeks in Emergency Intensive Care Ward at The Alfred Hospital. But I am not complaining, because when I was admitted to The Alfred Hospital late at night, the Nurse in Charge said I would not live more than two days because the infection was so advanced. Early the next morning the Doctor in Charge said I would not see the day out. But as President Trump was fond of saying, it was ....... "False News", but I cannot walk unassisted and I expect to be in Recovery for another 3 months. But good things happen to good people, and the communication skills that you have both shown on your self made videos are what impressed me. And with just a little bit of luck you may be able to use them to further entrench yourselves in the Aussie Life Style. Phil.

Speaking about coffee, when you guys coming back to Australia (especially Melbourne), please go straight to any 7-Eleven store and try their coffee, which only costs $1 for S/cup. You'll be surprised compare to Maccas's. Sorry for change the subject.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Huh, sounds good! 7-11 isn't the best here haha

@jesserowlingsify

3 жыл бұрын

@@twotravelingkings idk what this is on about but if you don’t hate yourself, don’t get a 7/11 coffee in Australia lmao

You called it Macca's yeah. The foams on the coffee is coarse it needs to be tighter foam.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

True

Next time you guys need to come to Brisbane! We have the best coffee!

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds good 😊

In regards to Mocha, they charge you extra if you add a flavour.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

👍

Even the things that are similar are different. US macchiato looks like a big milky drink? In Australia (and Italy) the macchiato is espresso plus some foamed milk, just a bit. Also what is all listed as different drinks there are really just the same drink with a flavour added. In Australia you might order a latte with a shot of hazelnut syrup or whatever, or on skim milk/oat milk etc, but it won’t be shown as a separate list item. As for the quality of Maccas coffee, it really depends. Fresh beans, clean machines, trained barista and a quiet store? You’ll probably get a 6/10 coffee from Maccas fairly consistently. Problem is those factors rarely all line up. Most people who like coffee (read: not instant) won’t get coffee from Maccas unless they’re desperate.

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the macchiato is like a completely different drink!

Your americano is probably the closest to a long black. The difference between a cappuccino and a latte should be this (from my understanding, Aussie baristas correct me if I'm wrong):a cappuccino is 1/3 hot coffee 1/3 hot milk and 1/3 foam with chocolate dusted over top. A latte is 2/3 milk coffee and 1/3 foam. Also want to say, I hope you move back to Australia. You both light up whenever you mention it. Please, please, please document it! We would love to journey with you! 🇦🇺 😊

@twotravelingkings

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! 😊