US Ukraine aid breaks deadlock while European allies consider Iron Dome style defences
The success of Israel and allies defences against Iran's missile strikes has led to some to ask US aid to Ukraine could set a template for a European copies of Iran's Iron Dome defence systems.
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i'm so glad the conversation is shifting to how money is spent rather than how much. far more important.
The whole of Society must come together to rebuild our military might. We need a strong leader to drive us through this decade of war!
@DacianRider
13 күн бұрын
amen
@tonybenn1000
13 күн бұрын
Right on mate, how else are we to steal Russia's Oil like we stole Iraq's, and Syria's and Libya's and the list go's on and on, "if you know what I'm talking about" mate.
@user-oq7uw2sy9s
13 күн бұрын
There was a trifle left. Find a strong leader. In the meantime, we see semi-literate idiots. They have problems with basic secondary education.
@PraneshSacher
12 күн бұрын
Yes, absolutely we have to come together to rebuild our military might. If we don't have a strong leader, we need to have a strong mind and a strong will ... welcome, we are at the starting point of this enormous change ..... :)
> set a template for a European copies of Iran's Iron Dome defence systems. Surely you meant Israel's?
Iron Dome for Ukraine was the first thing on everyone's mind, and the answer then was: "impossible for an area this large" ?!?
@yevgeni10
13 күн бұрын
They will had to install twice the number that Israel have.
@washuneluvhada7616
13 күн бұрын
😂 nevermind the cost is in the billions... Either way Israel and US help and 72 hours warning from Iran.. even then they got hit two air bases and a intelligence centre in tel aviv
@yevgeni10
13 күн бұрын
@@washuneluvhada7616 That not true, even the US said it was fake news.
@rogerhall6021
13 күн бұрын
@@washuneluvhada7616and did less human damage than an Alec Baldwin filmset .
@chrisviking7807
13 күн бұрын
Western leaders are full of BS. We need effective leaders not this career-politician dross.
We have no defence against missiles?- We seem to have no doctors,dentists,decent roads & hardly any hospitals properly staffed either. But we do have thousands of our newly arrived 'friends' ensconced in 4star hotels while many ex soldiers live on the streets.They are not a good advert for joining the services.
@user-bw5ib8ds1e
13 күн бұрын
Would you like to sit in your safe space for a while and hug your special blanket?
@nikolaucznaum4312
13 күн бұрын
Don't forget, the UK with Germay financed the whole EU infrastructure project for 45 years!!....
@kirishima638
13 күн бұрын
Don’t forget our nuclear deterrent does not work
@suburbia2050
13 күн бұрын
What's a 6 star hotel? Decent roads? Why are people buying ever heavier and pricey vehicles to take their overweight bodies 4 miles to the supermarket? Perhaps they should start to pay for the damage they cause. Same for a largely unhealthy population filling up the wards.
@michaelnannestad7399
13 күн бұрын
@@suburbia2050 Auto non correct altered it from 4 to 6 stars.
"breaks deadlock" is present tense. It hasn't happened yet.
@StillAliveAndKicking_
13 күн бұрын
Yes, click bait title.
@kummer45
13 күн бұрын
There is a degree on certainty. That bill already passed. The rest is a public stunt to confuse Russia. US knows how to play politics better than Russia.
Johnson/Trump TOXIC!
@rcgunner7086
13 күн бұрын
Biden/Harris Disaster...
@chrissaris6869
13 күн бұрын
Which Johnson? Mike, Boris or both?
@themcgeachys
13 күн бұрын
@@chrissaris6869the rock
@urlauburlaub2222
13 күн бұрын
@@themcgeachys Magic
@alien4422
13 күн бұрын
Traitors!
Todays missile's are not the the V2missles that hit London 75 years ago Britain can build a missile system with Ukraine a shared friendship together. Ukraine has the knowledge Britain has the means together.
@frank-t6857
13 күн бұрын
Absolutely. I thought about the same. UK needs to create national revenues and working with Ukraine could escalate the British defense industry with up-to-date warfare knowledge. Europe needs to ramp up its own military defense industry and UK should concentrate on specific equipments and missiles like the Storm Shadow, air defense and drone technologies.
@schloops8473
13 күн бұрын
@@frank-t6857 yah but the corrupt make more money by having massive budgets and providing nothing and since our politcians, media and generals are all on the take...
@garyrumsby3330
12 күн бұрын
Briton should sort its own problems out and stop meddling in every other country’s affairs
@everTriumph
12 күн бұрын
@@garyrumsby3330 Every other country seems to want to meddle in Britain's affairs which make sorting problems problematic.
@Benjamin-hg018
12 күн бұрын
The Russian offensive in the summer of 2024 will bring down the Ukrainian front line. This is reported by Politico with reference to high-ranking officers.
The IMF expects that Ukraine's economic growth rate will be 3.2% at the end of this year, and will increase to 6.5% in 2025. This is stated in the report World Economic Outlook, presented during the IMF and the World Bank meeting in Washington.
@washuneluvhada7616
13 күн бұрын
😂The very institutions controlled by Western elites
@cmbergersct3492
13 күн бұрын
Yes they were doing well considering. But now things have changed! You can't expect this amount of destruction to be conducive to continuing strengthening economy. This is by any stretch of the imagination,what American CEOs desire. They hold the political power because there are no laws about reporting where campaign money comes from comes
The US defense budgets for decades has been to mainly counter the Russian threat. Recently (possibly thanks to Ukraine) China has taken 1st position. Since the last couple of years our annual defense budgets have exceeded 800 billion I'd say 60 billion to Ukraine is a heck of a deal to finally close the Russian issue with none of our boots on the ground so we can concentrate on the next real threat.
@benachiesween
12 күн бұрын
US controls over 1,000 overseas military bases, Russia has 29 China has fewer. Russia is the threat ??? What utter nonsense.
@danielculpepper9258
11 күн бұрын
Keep giving …😂😂😂
This will be very disappointing that no missiles defence for UK, I don't think so.
@bobthebomb1596
13 күн бұрын
Not sure what you mean? It's true that there is very little in the way of ground based air defence for the UK. There are a few Sky Sabre units (One in the Falklands, one currently deployed to Poland), which are good but of limited range and capability. Then we are down to short range, man portable weapons. There is limited capability if a Type 45 destroyer happens to be in port and crewed, but even that is currently only able to intercept short range ballistic missiles. The UK possesses nothing with the capability of the Israeli Arrow 2/3, SM3, Patriot PAC3 or THAAD.
@carlabroderick5508
13 күн бұрын
If Putin is defeated, no one needs missile defense for awhile. Defeating Putin will even deter China.
Untold billions have been spent to develop high-energy laser beam weapons that, according to military reports, can shoot down missiles and even drones in a fraction of a second. These lasers are land based and also mounted on war planes and naval ships. You need to look into this and make a report. If this laser technology works, there will be no need for missile defense systems.
It's actually Kyiv Keeve not Kiev Kiev is the Russian word. And Kyiv is not Russian. Ukraine 🇺🇦 is Ukraine.
@themcgeachys
13 күн бұрын
Chicken ones out of ice land mmmmm
@PNH-sf4jz
13 күн бұрын
As a request and with respect, KyivNotKiev is an online campaign to persuade English-language {speakers}, media and organizations to exclusively use Kyiv as the name of the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv. (derived from the Ukrainian-language 'Київ') instead of Kiev which is (derived from the Russian-language 'Киев') 💙 🇺🇦 💛 🔱 💚 🇦🇺 💛
@BabbaYagga
13 күн бұрын
Hahahahahaha, and it is Lindin, not London!
Does UK have any air defence systems? Let me guess, nothing modern and just a few can operate better than Trident?
thanks to Putin's "Defense Incentive Program". He deserves credit for NATO expansion and "DIP". Nice job!
@washuneluvhada7616
13 күн бұрын
NATO weapons & EU are depleted to critical levels😂 paper tigers
@nozhki-busha
13 күн бұрын
@@washuneluvhada7616 oh really, Ivan? You are doing to be very surprised indeed if Russia makes a fatal mistake and steps a foot into NATO land.
@washuneluvhada7616
13 күн бұрын
@@nozhki-busha NATO already sent troops into Ukraine under the "foreign fighters" group , they all got shovelled...🤡 This is Russia humiliating NATO at this point, Ukraine is irrelevant & on NATO life support, lost a year ago
@billy2807
13 күн бұрын
@@washuneluvhada7616 hahaha you cats are adorable. You can always tell what's true about a russian - because they will accuse you of the same thing: The rf begs NK and Iran for weapons? NATO IS OUT OF WEAPONS! The rf's military turns out to be a joke? NATO IS A PAPER TIGER! The ruble falls in value by 70%? THE DOLLAR IS DOOMED! So, you're saying the rf's weapons are depleted. Thanks for the heads up. I hope they're paying you in rubles, dude, because if you were getting real money to do this job...it would be an outrage.
@ospehu1
12 күн бұрын
Keep dreeming Vatnik we have been prepaired for you for 80 years and you nave no clue what sits a next to your western boarderline already and due the DCA agreament there shall be much more in future.
If money won't buy a better defense, then obviously the solution is more INTELLIGENT defense spending and more INTELLIGENT defense design.
The video description looks like it was written by a 12 year old....
@nozhki-busha
13 күн бұрын
No it wasnt written by the Russian MOD 🤣
@gearingonline
13 күн бұрын
Thank you for saying what I thought. It’s surprising for a national newspaper. Perhaps they had a long lunch…
@StillAliveAndKicking_
13 күн бұрын
These days newspapers can’t afford to pay adults.
What we have no AWACs coverage! SERIOUSLY?
Ffs we don't even have bunkers
@18_rabbit
13 күн бұрын
forget that. Focus: the only prevention of serious war is capable systems, namely missile related systems and defense for all incoming aerial weapons. Not friggin complicated to FOCUS
@themcgeachys
13 күн бұрын
Where will you go for protection London and Glasgow have the underground dome sort of protection
Most UK citizens would forgo the soon-to-arrive Tory tax cuts to ensure the nation is adequately prepared!!...
@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon.
13 күн бұрын
The Tories are finished. Labour will win the next election in the coming months and they'll actually invest in the military.
He says we don't have anything like iron dome, but don't we have Sky Sabre which has replaced the outgoing Rapier system?
@MrFish1968
13 күн бұрын
Plus the UK RAF was taking out some of the misses and drones from Iran, surely we have more RAF planes at home that the ones stationed near Isreal, to say we have nothing is a bit of a stretch.
@Radonslur
13 күн бұрын
obviously Iron dome performance was impressive.
@18_rabbit
13 күн бұрын
@@Radonslur fyi, iron dome is local level. The real risk/threat is the ballistic missiles which in Iran's attack required Israel to use a whole other system.
@bobthebomb1596
13 күн бұрын
We do, but in very limited numbers (one unit on the Falklands and one in Poland atm). We have nothing to take out long range ballistic missiles.
iron dome will have the same problem. It is only viable for occasional attack. not something that happens every week.
Correction: The description should refer to Israel's Iron dome, not Iran's
his supposed 'recipe' for change just sounds like giving up - rather than some specific clever efficiency new defence plan
😂 _"Britain Stands Together With the Ukraine"_ The gift that keeps on giving...
All major western countries should have layered air defence for critical infrastructure. Iron Done is one of Israel’s three layers. Ground to air defence is the cheapest sustainable system. Air to air defence is very expensive- requiring the air craft fleet and is dependent on expensive missiles. Layered defence can use a combination of laser, missiles and guns (CWIS). No country except Israel has adapted to life in the missile age.
@paulleigh7792
13 күн бұрын
peterryan4851: for all that, the Israelis couldn’t detect or stop the terrorist attack on their border areas in October 2023!
@tonybenn1000
13 күн бұрын
@@paulleigh7792 Well let me think a second, maybe our little friends thought, we have disarmed them, so all we had to fight were unarmed Women and Children?
There is a huge problem with British procurement. Ajax APC was a good system in use in other countries but the MOD wanted changes. For minimal gains we had massive cost increase a lack of compatibility and a suspension system that made troops sick. Astute and Dreadnaught submarine costs have skyrocketed as MoD change specs. We have aircraft carriers with no planes and both RAF and Navy had to go for the short range less capable version of the F35 because MoD wanted to save money on catapult. And we don’t have the ships to defend them. It’s a FUBAHR caused by our own systems which need an urgent overhaul.
To your headline - When exactly? This year, next year, sometime, never?
We have land-based Sky Sabre but NATO air defences could stop a lot of missiles and drones over Europe before they even reached the UK. The prospect of the Russian navy firing on us from the Atlantic is pretty remote.
it's all very well but who is going to make this stuff we don't make stuff here in the uk it takes years to train engineers who can make this stuff we just stack things up in shops and sell it and most of it comes from else where not the uk
Note well that modern armaments are cheaper by the dozen. When designing Patriot/Iron Dome systems, no one considered the scale of the current drone/missle throughput we're experiencing today. Computers get cheaper, and so will ABM loads.
@18_rabbit
13 күн бұрын
dozen...lol. Keep in mind that the first months of the war, Russia was lobbing 60K shells per day!!!!!!!!!! The production capacity in the west has to be increased a fair bit and immediately, by definition. If the gvt's are not doing this already then they are derelict, literally, and putting us in jeapordy. But even more importantly we must have high tech missile tech, that is where the serious money needs to be spent. That is unfortunately a fact.
This Great island has been a fortress for 1000 years, it's a no brained to me it a fortress again
@18_rabbit
13 күн бұрын
sure but what it means to be a fortress now is entirely different from the past. It means having forward-reaching military capabilities in conjuction with a coalition of close allies like the USa, and ideally even Germany if it can snap to it and get its military redeveloped, bcuz they are farther behind than even the Uk now! It will take germany ten years estimated, to get its military back to status of fifteen years ago! Let's get cracking!
@kirishima638
13 күн бұрын
Fortress lol! This island has been invaded so many times it’s impossible to know where the original population and culture ended and the new one began. Off the top of my head: - the Celts - the Romans - the Saxons - the Danes - the Normans - the Dutch Since Brexit, our borders have been completely open because we cannot afford the costs of checking imports upon which we are entirely dependent: one bad diseased animal or food product would absolutely devastate us. An no, the EU doesn’t check produce that is not destined for an EU member, despite what Mogg said. And as for immigration, the Tory government has issued visas to hundreds of thousands of Indians and Africans to replace the EU citizens in the NHS after the latter left, many of them under qualified or ‘self certified’. And that’s not including small boat asylum seekers.
@bobthebomb1596
13 күн бұрын
@@kirishima638 Yawn. Our borders were open before Brexit and produce was "checked" by the manufacturer not the EU.
@kirishima638
13 күн бұрын
@@bobthebomb1596 no, our borders WERE the EU as we were a member of the single market. Goods coming into the block were checked; beef entering Poland on its way to Britain was checked at the Polish border and wine entering Britain on its way to Italy was checked at the British border. Internal produce for internal markets was not checked because it had to be produced to high EU standards. Occasionally this failed eg the horse meat scandal, but for the most part it was safe because of the high standards. When Britain left the single market and became a third country, we lost all of these protections. Beef entering Poland for Britain is not checked and could be contaminated. We should be checking this stuff at our borders, just like Japan checks imports or America or any other country. But we’re not. We are wide open. This is great for EU exporters to Britain as it means no delays of costs and the Tories rely on this to fool the public into thinking everything is fine, and because carrying out checks would disrupt food supplies. It is terrible for British exporters who must process paperwork and costs to export into the block. Because France, Holland etc actually built processing centres for British goods in 2017, when May smugly triggered Article 50 despite having no clue what form Brexit would take, and when some Tories were still claiming we would remain in the single market. It’s also bad for British farmers and fishermen, who not only lost EU subsidies, they must continue to produce to EU standards despite no longer having any say in those standards. Do you get it now?
I think its a given to have an iron dome system. We definitely need something as our armed forces wouldn't cope if Russia invaded with scuds. The politicians of this country are totaly incompetent and need to step up to protect its people,after all protection of its people is its first priority.
More wars equals high inflation. Poor life quality. Higher taxes
HRM ships have capable AA weapons, but them are few
"Drone Wars" , Starting to Look Like Movie "Terminator" !! Who Knew...
Half-cocked is Britains strong-point.
The Americans went through this problem during the 80s and 90s. Why did we not take a leaf out of their book? Also maybe not having such a top heavy military would be better?
If the iron Dome stopped some of Iranian missiles, it doesn't mean it will stop advanced Russian missiles
I have to disagree on the Australia part of this equation. Australia is raising defense spending to 2.4% of GDP, is investing 5 billion dollars into Rolls Royce nuclear propulsion facility in the UK. They have committed to building 17 frigates, with some to be built overseas for delivery this decade, the rest built in Australia. Ultimately it will be building 8 to 12 nuclear powered submarines of the same type that the UK will be building. Rather than pulling back from Australia, the government needs to be making certain that 11 of those newly announced frigates are Type 31 frigates, with obvious benefits for British industry. Australia is already building Type 26 frigates. And in the long run, Australia will provide the economies of scale Britain so desperately needs for the AUKUS submarine project. It is very much a two way street with the Australians developing the Ghostshark drone submarine, which may become useful for the RAN, plus, with the Americans, developing a new class of drone missile ships. The refocus on Australia and the Indo/Pacific in recent years has been part of a resurgence of British naval manufacturing long term. Building missile defenses and North Atlantic defenses are essential, but get that defense spending increasing. 3% does not sound all that high, encourage Australia to also increase spending to 3% and build ships and missiles in both countries. We are all stronger by working cooperatively, and besides historic ties, Australia is an ally that is getting very serious about defense spending - it is a good country to have a very close defense relationship with.
The main problem with our defence expenditure is politicians using it for job creation. We spent £3.4 billion trying to develop our own maritime patrol aircraft before abandoning it and buying the American version that was available in the first place
@andyniblock43
12 күн бұрын
Don’t even mention Ajax armoured vehicle or the SA80, the most expensive individual weapon ever invented.
How can Europe have Iron Dome? Israel is tiny.
@_elix22
10 күн бұрын
Iron Dome can protect large areas , the Tamir missiles interceptors are placed on the border areas that need to be protected. For larger areas you would need more Iron Dome batteries. The best way to protect against missiles is to use 3 layer protection that Israel is using : Iron Dome , Davids Sling and Arrow 2/3. Such a 3 layer protection would be effective also against Russian attacks.
What is the point with a missile defence. Just have missiles oneself that one can fire off against the enemy
Why do we need a defence system for London? That's where the enemy live!
Everyone is oblivious to the fact that Donald Trump signed off on more funding for Ukraine several months ago. It's only a couple Republicans(actually libertarians) that have been holding this up Their leverage is threatening to unseat Johnson. It only takes 1 to start things rolling. That's house rules for either party. It's only a problem when your party only holds a slim margin.
Lets remember the Russians wont be firing catusha,rockets. We saw iron dome couldn't do anything with iran .so lets not over play our hands please lets make peace
A-10s would be more beneficial than the f-16 in my opinion
@midwesttraveler2485
12 күн бұрын
Not really. They're too slow and there's too much integrated air defense along the lines of contact. That's why neither country has gained air superiority.
@kenyonchugg7570
5 күн бұрын
@@midwesttraveler2485 Makes sense. I was thinking of ground cover. Air defense like you said would shoot em down quickly.
MTG is not right wing at all. Right wing left wing: neither. She’s plainly crazy bird.
all of the support and development for defence has been privatised, of course it costs a fortune, they'd privatise the MOD if they could.
The issue with MOD defence procurement is common in our public sector. Procurement is both over regulated and frequently a race to the bottom to deliver customised solutions at the cheapest price. It doesn’t work. Buy quality, proven off-the-shelf solutions for mainstream capability. Good enough is good enough. Then choose a point of military specialisation and that’s where we must spend the money for the cherry-on-top more bespoke or customised capabilities.
The Russian offensive in the summer of 2024 will bring down the Ukrainian front line. This is reported by Politico with reference to high-ranking officers.
Inarticulate speaker
Seems the armed forces share identical problems to the NHS, police and education with increasing amounts of cash going less distances the more politicians are allowed to benefit from contracts with private firms, the only logical solution is paying politicians more to set up a committee and tell us they need more money. After paying tax, mortgage, bills and food I almost broke even last month I'm sure I could spare another 5% or so.
IT Does Take R&D/ Money to stay AHEAD of our Enemies , or , bend over...
Despite what solar head man says , Britain is perfectly safe from either Russia, China ,Iran or North Korea unless the British Government get funny and cause an existential threat to any of the above countries. However going by what Cameron and Macron has been threatening recently with their reckless suggestions for Ukraine the this situation could change quickly ,and rightly so.
What part of any escalated war sees us needing a weapons defence system for conventional weapon attacks? Who could reach us? What circumstances would see them use conventional weapons over a prolonged period? How would one of the most densely populated countries in Europe be able to shoot down missiles safely without killing significant numbers in the process? If the missiles are coming from the east geographically id guess they will be travelling over many of our EU allies.... What will they have to say about missiles in their airspace? The absolute last thing we need to worry about is conventional missile attacks. If we have upped our involvement in either conflict to the extent that we are engaged in fully fledged war the weapons used will clearly wipe ourselves and the aggressor out instantly. I would expect the UK to use the most lethal response available if any nation dared to attack.
He is going to bring each part of the aid package in a seperate bill rather than together.
@RudolphoAqui
13 күн бұрын
Or not
@TheBaconWizard
13 күн бұрын
@@RudolphoAqui I said bring, not pass
@RudolphoAqui
13 күн бұрын
@@TheBaconWizard All stall
Why can’t we use some of our own ship missiles defence just placed on high land to get a better view we have old ships with them and just make new ones we do for ships and fit them on land same thing and cheaper than other similar defence batteries 🤷♂️👍🏼 makes sense ships do the same thing just at sea just fit them to high land also 🇬🇧🇺🇦👍🏼
MOD procurement is a joke. It needs root and branch change.
Some Billions Support Now , OR, 7 TRILLION $$ LATER is TOO Late...
Please let NATO buy Patriot. It’s a proven system and Germany Spain Romania and the Netherlands have just placed an order. Germany is going to start production. If NATO or EU countries get together on a bulk purchase the price tumbles. What we don’t need is a huge procurement bill because we want to-tweak it or build our own different system. May be worth comparing to Iron Dome to see if there is a noticeable gain. BAE could even try to get a licence to build in UK
There is a huge difference between European allies. There are state-of-the-art systems during construction and deployment like Polish multiple layer defence structure and the countries with almost no plan and no money alocated in it, like the UK. The iron dome is simly the lowest layer of defence, created mostly against the cheapest flying devices. There is no point in coordinating of such a project within Europe and it is so difficult that almost impossible, taking into consideration specifics of the countries in a possible conflict. However, a kind of European cooperation in the highest layer of anti-ballistic defence (an equivalent of Israel’s Arrow 2, Arrow 3 and similar American systems) is a good idea. That is why the countries like Poland, France or Italy which are much more advanced in building the system could also join the initiative. Anyway… it is a very vague idea now and it will not deliver earlier than in next ten yeras. Please, don’t use the terms like ‘the iron dome’ misleadingly. Even if this discussion is interesting, there is a lot of ignorance in it.
David Murrin covered this ages ago in a report that allegedly reached Boris Johnson when he was in No.10. The answer is a first line of defence comprising naval destroyers with anti-missile weaponry stationed up and down the coast and a second line comprising iron dome type systems critical infrastructure points. Not London though. London doesn’t need an iron dome system - there’s nothing worth defending there. Better to defend Whitby in Yorkshire as it’s got the ‘early warning’ Fillingdales base and the lucrative Woodsmith mines close by. And this argument about accepting a smaller role in the world is nonsensical. Investing in a navy pays for itself by boosting trade and securing trade routes.
Israeli Iron Dome -Nice name - is NO wonder defense system. - Like Always - its been over Hyped.
@bobthebomb1596
13 күн бұрын
It has performed extremely well at what it was designed to do.
Europe needs an integrated missile defence system though cheap drones en masse could be hard to defend against??Laser system could be part of the answer if it works!! UK should not look outside Europe and the 2 aircraft carriers were a total waste of money!!
This Iranian strike helped everyone, but Ukraine, win: Iran has "retaliated". Netanyahu has "defended". USA has shown off the might*. Russia diverted help and attention from Ukraine. *USA doesn't negotiate with terrorists unless the terrorist has nukes. What will USA do next time when Iran tests a nuke?
@yurilytviak9066
13 күн бұрын
We see what happens to a country when american extortion forces it to disarm by surrendering its weapons to its historical , genocidal enemy….
@user-mz3in7vo5b
13 күн бұрын
Things are unrawling....next US fronts will be...... US - Cant handle one front. US - Can certainly not handle two fronts. US - With 3 COMPETING fronts, will effektivly paralyse any aktivity inside and outside US.
@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon.
13 күн бұрын
Iran is going to be getting a BIG surprise from the Israeli's
ah... the problem with sending only one ship... yeah... good point. people know what is going on, everybody has internet. everybody can lookup how many ships a country has got. also how much money they spend on defense... :D i guess it is kind of pointless to send one ship. the "natives" there will not be afraid and look t it saying "woah... this ship... the uk really shows presence here, we better do what they tell us or they will invade/destroy us" :D hahaha... maybe this worked 150 years ago... either you build, have and send there massive amounts of ships and carriers with fighters... OR.. you you have one super amazing super hero ship that is technological so advanced it scares... like it could have active camo, not even swim in the water but hover over the water, and it should have violet lasers too... maybe a star trek-like shield!!! or... you just leave what you have home and spend the money better... :D sure no, that really is a good argument. but... not even sending one ship!! will result in total ignorance. the people there will absoultely do what they want. china would go on rampage instantly. it is more about the sign, the statement... sending one ship is better than sending no ship! and if 20 nations send 1 ship, the total already is a significant fleet. but i agree that there needs to be more money put into the local defenses as well. irondome-esque defenses make sense. do both!
The aid bills are separate to each other - it also has virtually no presidential draw allowance down so it’s next to useless - improve your facts and details guys.
@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon.
13 күн бұрын
That's not been decided yet. Biden is the man who puts forward the aid bill and he says they'll be joined in to one package.
This bit about Iron Dome sounds kinda silly. You are the United Kingdom ... search your memories ... there used to be these large metal things, water tight, long and pointy, some had guns on top. What were they called? I wager you could put some missile defense gadgets on the top of those things, and then protect both home and abroad.
The obvious option cant be mentioned, since it is not "politically" correct.
"Iran's Iron Dome defence systems" Times Radio
Of course there won't be a bill on the border brought forward unless completely unavoidable - if the border situation improves significantly, it could dent Trump's chances come election time.
Your 'Description' text is saying that Iran has an iron dome system that Europe wants to copy? hmmm... Who posts your videos and writes these very poorly worded descriptions? You sound like a bunch of amateurs 😅
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Keep giving money to Ukraine! It works! 😂😉😂
100% accurate. Now we need 2 democrat parties to go with the 2 GoP parties.
Please stop saying only republicans get mad about the border. We all do check any polls. I just don’t agree with things like pushing people back into the rio grande .
@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon.
13 күн бұрын
The GOP is behind in every poll. Even in the red states their polling is at the lowest percentage points this century. MAGA has destroyed the Republican party like a cancer eating it away from the inside.
@kerriwilson7732
12 күн бұрын
The poor swimmers should knock on the front door instead of sneaking in illegally. If the legal path is a pointless bureaucratic tangle... democrats are in office, democrats should fix it.
TERRIBLE title, not mere clickbait but entirely fabricated. This is supposed to be a respectable news and current affairs channel.
@boota1979
13 күн бұрын
@TheBaconWizard It's nothing more than a propaganda channel. First air date: 29 June 2020 brought in just in time for a 'pandemic' and it's been spouting propaganda ever since.
@futonclutch5040
13 күн бұрын
Exactly. I've just looked at several major news websites, but there is no evidence whatsoever that Ukraine is getting any US aid. The deadlock has not been broken, and so far, there is no congressional consensus to vote through the US$ 60 billion military aid package that Ukraine so desperately needs. This is just plain fabrication. I expect more from the Times.
Give up the Falklands?
You guys have a missile defense system called Sky Sabre, and it's highly accurate. I can't believe the amount of information you are putting out about your own country. My only thought is you are trying to drum up support for more military spending. You say your money isn't being used effective? All you did was point to numbers. You guys go the route of less but more technologically advanced (also why you need less soldiers btw). Look at the tanks given to Ukraine. The Challenger 2 is by far the best over the Leopard 2 and M1A1 Abrams. This is one of the worst segments I've seen by Times Radio.
@Mybigfinger_69
13 күн бұрын
We have plenty of missiles, manufactured by MBDA. We export many to Brazil, Italy etc etc. These guys are not well informed.
@suburbia2050
13 күн бұрын
Errr the UK doesn't have an anti ballistic missile system, hence the point in the interview about the RAF would have to scramble, there is no low flying cruise missile that could fly all the way from Russia to the UK, it would have to be a ballistic missile. No idea what you are going on about tanks for I mean surely that proves that superior tech is no good in tiny numbers?!
@suburbia2050
13 күн бұрын
@@Mybigfinger_69the UK doesn't have an anti ballistic missile system.
@Mybigfinger_69
13 күн бұрын
I said we have plenty of missiles, which we do. Anti ballistic, nope we don’t have them I agree. Not until 2032.
@suburbia2050
13 күн бұрын
@@Mybigfinger_69 but that was the whole point of the interview the idea of defending from the hypothetical "Russia firing missiles at London" scenario which would be ballistic by nature of the distance, sky sabre etc is built for protecting army units and naval ships out on the battlefield instead. They didn't say the UK had no anti missile or anti air capability.
iron dome can not go against 300 drones rockets russia sends 5000 like hamas did wil burst trought remeber 5000 hamas rocketa they said it was a lie more like 50 maby 300 from so far away hits 14 places 5000 from around corner hits nothing strange informations
50 countries and their puppet master USA proxy Ukraine against 🇷🇺Russia and they lost 😅😅
@kerriwilson7732
12 күн бұрын
Why are you anonymous? You'll never get the credit your genius deserves with a username. 🤡
Inviter poutine aux commémorations du débarquement est un impératif. Dès son arrivée en France, on le met dans l’avion pour La Haye, ou il sera accueilli par le tribunal international de justice avec tous les honneurs dûs à son rang.René.
Support Ukraine , for Golly Sake , and , You SAVE YOURSELVES . ...
I think Johnson will bring three individual bills to the floor and then just not bring the Ukraine part to the floor at all. This whole thing is designed by Trump and Johnson to delay and prevent any aid to Ukraine at all.
@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon.
13 күн бұрын
It doesn't work like that. The President via the house democrats is putting forward the bills and he says they'll be a 4 in 1 package. 1. Ukraine aid package 2. Israel aid package 3. Taiwan aid package 4. US military investment package.
@crystalbluepersuasion1027
13 күн бұрын
@@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon. That’s good. Next time I should probably watch the whole video before commenting, lol.
the USA is one f$$ked nation. a coup has taken place an unelected person has taken control of the government and nothing will happen without his approval. This person is fully aligned with Putin, the GOP is now the PUtin Party as they work to advance Russian goals in Ukraine.
Stop poking the bear. Safer and cheaper.
Iron dome is an excellent idea!!
right on. never waste money on a lost cause right? keep sending till it hurts.
❤Ukrainian ❤
Irans iron dome???? Maybe stick to copying Israels
Oh, more billions for the Military Industrial Complex of the USA to supply the 'dome'.....this stuff never ends!
@Mr_Rob_otto
13 күн бұрын
A “dome” is a defensive maneuver to avoid Russia bombing a killing civilians in Ukraine as opposed to being an offensive weapon. That’s a good thing that will save lives. That money will be spent in the US and employ Americans who will manufacture and assemble the system. It’s good public policy and a humanitarian effort.
@markmierzejewski9534
13 күн бұрын
So you are against jobs in America?
@sayitasiseeit626
13 күн бұрын
@@markmierzejewski9534 don't talk nonsense
@sayitasiseeit626
13 күн бұрын
@@Mr_Rob_otto only an American would call escalating military conflicts all around the world a 'humanitarian effort', that's sick!
@tonyzaffirini7368
13 күн бұрын
For a native Farsi speaker your English is pretty good!
If the tories think they can make money out of iron dome, then it will appear.
Solution...Make peace with Putin.
Money for war but NOT the poor ..
@user-mz3in7vo5b
13 күн бұрын
Meaning Putin, can take care of the poor, he need lots of them, in fact limitless amount! To conquer the world!
@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon.
13 күн бұрын
You sound like a WOKE SOCIALIST. Go tell the poor to get a job or work harder. No free money handouts to lazy scroungers.
@PNH-sf4jz
13 күн бұрын
If there are no defences, the poor will be more worried about you.
@_Richard_F___
13 күн бұрын
@@PNH-sf4jz We put ourselves in that situation to need defence .
@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon.
13 күн бұрын
@@_Richard_F___ So did the poor by being lazy and not getting jobs.
Don’t come to Canada . We are very good at announcements and posing pretty boy PM who couldnt build an outhouse.
@18_rabbit
13 күн бұрын
what a crock your stmt is. Trud has been up against it with reactionary nutbar conservative politicians the likes that have probably never been seen before? I'm a yank right below the border and so i know a bit about your ppl. I'm a centrist and trust me, canada's only chance is with the wise leadership of the liberal party.
Waĺrus
Iron dome could not stop Iranian hypersonic missiles, Israel only shot down the subsonic missiles and a lot of slow drones. 1200 million dollars were spent in a few hours.
@midwesttraveler2485
12 күн бұрын
Please list your reference
I really think you, Brits should not comment on the speculative aspects of our politics. You do not understand them. This is a bill to send support to everyone but Ukraine. He will not bring that to a vote but with this bill he will get enough Republican split that there is no chance for a discharge petition on the good lend lease act bill. That we all really want.
Ukraine ain’t getting Jack poo
@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon.
13 күн бұрын
Ivan.. Bad news for you. That's about to change.