Can you shed any light on these mystery items? Let us know what you think!

I enjoyed this! Its a great idea for a Catholic channel and one which I haven't seen before. 😀

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

We're so glad you enjoyed it! We appreciate so much everyone's help in identifying these items.

Could the 15 decade rosary be meant to pray the traditional full rosary, without the Luminous mysteries?

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

That seems to make good sense- thank you!

@lizzies9419

2 ай бұрын

Like the nuns used to carry

@cat_zab

2 ай бұрын

I went to day a retreat at St Michael Abby. The topic the priest chose was about the rosary and mentioned the rosary was originally meant to be prayed the 15 decades. He also had a 15 decade rosary. I’ve been looking for one since 📿

I think the black 7 decade rosary is a Franciscan rosary which focuses on the 7 Joys of Our Lady. The Holy Land Crucifix has soil from the Garden of Gethsemane at the base, stone from Jesus' tomb on one arm, on the other are crushed rose petals from the Garden of Gethsemane, and at the top is incense from the Tomb in Jerusalem.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

This very helpful- thank you!

Black rosay at 4:30 is a Franciscan Crown or Seraphic Rosary. This rosary consiss of seven decades in commemoration of the Seven Joys of the Virgin Mary. The decades are the Annunciation, the Visitation, the Nativity of Jesus, the Adoration of the Magi, the Finding in the Temple, the Resurrection of Jesus, and then the Assumption of Mary and her Coronation.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! What a beautiful devotion- we definitely want to learn more about it :)

The red "rosary" with 6 groups of five beads might be the Chaplet of the Precious Blood. -Gabriella

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! This gives us a caller direction to go in as far researching more; very helpful!

I think the 5 decade rosary with the medal of the face of Jesus is the Chaplet of the Holy Face of Jesus. It's meant to honor the 5 wounds of Jesus. The 7 decade rosary might be the Franciscan Crown Rosary. It's also called the Seven Sorrows Rosary. I have one, but the Our Father beads are tiny paintings of each of the seven sorrows of Mary. Can't wait to find out more about all these!

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Ah- hadn't even thought of that! That would make sense. Thank you, Margaret!

My mom brought me back a wooden souvenir from Jerusalem that had vials of water, gravel, and dried leaves, just like the ones on the Crucifix. I always assumed they were just mementos of the Holy Land. There may be some symbolic significance that I’m not aware of.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Does your crucifix by any chance have the Stations of the Cross on the back? we are still wondering if they are there for a specific purpose or just because :)

This was such a fun video to watch and I can’t wait to see these mysteries solved! The crucifix with the churches - these are probably the major churches of Rome: St. Peter’s Basilica, St. Mary Major (Maggiore), St. John Lateran, and St. Paul Outside the Walls. I have a rosary from Rome that has these as the Our Father beads. For the olive wood cross, you may find some information by searching Holy Land olive wood crosses online. Good luck!

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! We are wondering if the pictures on the front of the cross are in some way related to the major churches?

I really like your channel! Great content 🙏

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! We appreciate your kind words so much!

I am not sure if you will ever see this bc the video is older but: Four glass capsules include: Incense from the Nativity Church, Bethlehem soil, Jerusalem Stone and Dried olive leaves that collectively represent the essence of the Holy Land. The Stations are to help you meditate on His suffering.

@catholicmomanddaughter

25 күн бұрын

Thank you! That is very helpful :)

The 7 x 7 is the chaplet of tears of our lady. Very powerfull ❤️

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Oh this was just so interesting to see all the unique items. I'm so intrigued by the wood crucifix. Just so beautiful. You'll definitely have to do a follow-up video or short & let us know what you've learned. I'm so, so very thankful you're here !

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

That is a great idea, Lena!

The olive wood crucifixes are sometimes made from 14 separate pieces of olive wood to represent the 14 stations of the cross (is that one made from multiple pieces). And the inserts are usually things from the holy land. Usually there is one with soil from the Holy Land. I am trying to remember the others. I think once is olive leaves and one is incense, maybe? And usually stones from the holy land, I think.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

That is very interesting! But it looks like ours is not 14 pieces of wood (that would be really cool if it was). Olive leaves sounds right for the top compartment--- now we are thinking the pink stuff may be incense? It is definitely not from a flower- too hard

What an interesting video and interesting objects you showed. I think the 7 decade one is the seven sorrows of mary rosary. I have seen it before. Please do a follow up video with what contributions you received. I do know someone who works in St Louis Univ. Will check about the librarian priest. I bought on etsy a "relic" (really bought it for the nice antique medal, from st Louis Monforr. I was curious that it is like a chamber that when you open it it has a red waxy solidified oiled gel like (no idea how else to describe it). If anyone knows about it, let me know.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! Let us know if you find out anything about Fr. Heiser. We appreciate it!

I have that very same card of Padre Pio❤

A "7 Sorrows " Rosary has 7 decades of 7 beads each. A Franciscan Crown has 7 decades of 10 beads each, with praying an additional 2 Hail Marys to commemorate the 72 years Blessed Mother was among us. They ARE different from each other and not to be confused.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

That is very helpful to know. Thank you!

I believe the small red Rosary is possibly the Chaplet of the Holy Face? The black one definitely looks to be a Dolores Rosary (Seven Sorrows of our Lady) and the 15 decade is just the complete mysteries of the Rosary (Joyful, Sorrowful and Glorious) before the Luminous Mysteries were introduced. The top picture on the Crucifix is definitely the prodical son. Really neat items! God bless you, ladies! ❤

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

The Chaplet of the Holy Face seems like the best possibility for that one. We are going to investigate that lead more. If it is, it should have a pardon crucifix (from what we've now read)- so now we have to check that!

@littlethimblehalffull

2 ай бұрын

@@catholicmomanddaughter Happy sleuthing! It was a fun video! I hope you will share more interesting items that come your way in the future. ❤️

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

@@littlethimblehalffull We never know what will come our way, so stay tuned!

9:41 Since it comes from Rome and for the 2000 jubilee. I think the churches in the back show the 4 major papal basilicas: Saint John of Lateran, Saint Peter, Saint Paul Outside the Walls and Santa Maria Maggiore. :)

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Do you think the pictures on the front each relate to the church on the back?

@87FM39

2 ай бұрын

I made some research. And found very interesting things :). It looks like a 5-way pectoral cross. The one for other jubilees showed different symbols. But I guess in this one, they could be related to JPII pilgrimage to Holy Land in March 2000. Due to the jubilee. He began in Mount Nebo (God Father promise Moses he would see Holy Land). He also visited the Annunciation Basilica. The Cenacle. And Christs Baptism place. Just a guess. Maybe it has to do with that. :)

@87FM39

2 ай бұрын

And one more thing, in that jubilee the indulgences could be either obtained visiting those 4 churches in Rome or some other churches in Holy Land. Including the Annunciation Basilica.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Wow- that is very helpful! We wonder if the top picture could be the Baptism of Jesus, then? Or maybe that would be God and Moses and the bottom picture with the Holy Spirit is baptism? In any case, you have been a great help- thank you!

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

We wonder if anyone could buy a pectoral cross like this- would they have been on sale in Rome at the time? Our next hope is to ID which 4 churches those are :)

Yes, I do have the commemorative rosary for St. John Paul 2. I am not 100% sure where I got it, but my guess is it came in the mail as an offering. I don't shop for rosaries so I am sure I did not go out to buy it myself. I actually had mine touched to a relic of St. Padre Pio, so I am hoping that mine is now a 3rd class relic? I am using it and touching it, so I hope I have not done something wrong? I think I do have a couple of mysteries of my own. When I have time, I will look for them.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Hi, Ann- yes, should be a third class relic, and you absolutely should use it! We look forward to hearing about your mysteries :)

The 7 decade rosary is probably a rosary devoted to the Franciscan devotion of praying the 7 Joy's of Mary (or the 7 Sorrows of Mary during Lent). It's called a 7 Crown Rosary.

@cthurbz5146

2 ай бұрын

I have a servite rosary that I use to pray the seven sorrows of Mary. It has 7 decades on it - maybe it’s that? I hadn’t heard you could also pray the 7 joys of Mary. I’m going to have to look it up!

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! That is very helpful- plus the 7 joys are wonderful to ponder :)

For the fancy crucifix the four containers hold frankincense, myrrh, ston, and, dirt from the Holy Land (I don’t remember where). For the 15 decade rosary it was made before St. John Paul II instituted the Luminous mysteries so it is a complete rosary of the Joyful, Sorrowful, and glorious mysteries.

The Holy Face Chaplet consists of sets of five decades of six beads with one decade of three beads. Devotion to the Holy Face was given by Our Lord to defeat communism. Beautiful promises go with this devotion.

@catholicmomanddaughter

25 күн бұрын

Thank you- very helpful to know!

Beautiful items looking forward to hearing all about them. Thanks for sharing Jennifer and Kate xx

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

We will do some kind of update when we get them all figured out, Wendy. We have gotten some good leads from everyone!

Ok! 1)Medjegorie 2) Jerusalem Cross, containing relics of the Holy Land where Jesus would have been...olive wood, stones from the tomb, incense etc... 3) ? 4) 7 decade Rosary is Our Lady of Sorrows Rosary, or a Franciscan Crown...depends on beginning beads by the cross 5)15 decade-pre luminous mystety Dominican Rosary 6) ? Chaplet of Life? Pray for the unborn? 7) yes EWTN 8) yes JPII, possibly from Poland 9) yes 10) yes St. Therese 11) It was hard to see all the pictures, but the top one looks like the Rembrandt "Progidal Son's Return" 12)? This might not be Catholic...exercise caution here 13) yes 14) yes 15) normal Mass card for its era 16) yes 17) yes. Hope this helps! God Bless!

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Yes, it really does! Do the Dominican rosaries generally have a plain cross and not a crucifix on the end? Or- could the corpus have fallen off the cross? It was a donated item, so it could have been through some rough times

Its great these items can be donated since some ma ve simply discarded

@catholicmomanddaughter

25 күн бұрын

Absolutely. We are always happy to help find them all good homes

I think this 4:37 is a 7 sorrow Rosary. It is an Our Lady of Sorrows' devotion. Sometimes it is prayed 7 Hail Maries. Sometimes 10 Hail Maries each sorrow. :)

I have a crucifix kind of like that on my wall! I bought it on Etsy from TheHolyLandShops. I’m not sure if they are all the same. Mine is made of olive wood and contains flowers, stones, Holy Incense, and olive leaves from Bethlehem.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Oh- olive leaves! That seems to make more sense than dried palms for the top compartment. Holy incense also fits. Thank you for your insight- this is giving us more of the big picture :)

In my camera on my phone is a mode called Lens. I've used it to do research on things of this nature. Snap a picture and it can bring up other items that are for sale and information sites. Was the Rosary not 15 decades prior to the Luminous being added by St. JP2?

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

What a great tip! We will try it. Yes- we might have a 15 decade rosary... just weird that it is a plain cross and not a crucifix at the end....

Could the rosary be 7 sorrows of Mary? Could someone at the St Odilo Church dedicated to the Holy Souls in Berwyn, IL offer any insight into the holy soul medal? I’m a big fan of the Fr Francis Xavier Lasance books published in their pocket size form. 1924 Our Lady Book.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip! we will definitely check out their website and see if we can get more information. We have the Our Lady Book! At least- we think.... it is pocket sized with the same title and very old. We love it :)

I think the crucifix has some dirt, rocks, or something that were taken from the Holy Land. I got one with water from the Jordan River. Maybe it is something like that.

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

That would seem logical, right? Water from the Jordan River- that is awesome!

1:55 I have the exact same type of crucifix. Mine was purchased at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Unfortunately, I don’t know what’s in all of the inserts but they’re all from the Holy Land. I believe the bottom is dirt and the right is frankincense. I think the other two are stone and dried flowers.

@GovtWatchdog

2 ай бұрын

I just took another look at yours. I think the contents of yours are a bit different than mine. Yeah, maybe those are dried olive leaves or palm branches on top. I would suspect the pink could be myrrh? 🤷🏼‍♂️

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

It could definitely be something like myrrh... it is very hard (could be dried out). It doesn't feel like dried flowers

7 sorrows of Mary rosary

@catholicmomanddaughter

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!