Ukraine Air Force Using iPads

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Gonky and Mover discuss news from Ukraine of fighter pilots using iPads with new weapons systems. www.businessinsider.com/ukrai...
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  • @jeremywellner5751
    @jeremywellner575128 күн бұрын

    They're using the iOS "AirDrop" feature!!! 😂

  • @user-ho1yn6ms7y

    @user-ho1yn6ms7y

    28 күн бұрын

    You sir, win the Internet today! 😂

  • @bmw_m4255

    @bmw_m4255

    28 күн бұрын

    @@user-ho1yn6ms7y not even close

  • @lasselahti4056

    @lasselahti4056

    28 күн бұрын

    "updating please wait"

  • @ahimel

    @ahimel

    27 күн бұрын

    Nice

  • @johnsheldonfrederick2862

    @johnsheldonfrederick2862

    27 күн бұрын

    You win the “internet is undefeated” award lol

  • @Sturmvogel8964
    @Sturmvogel896428 күн бұрын

    From WW1 era machine guns to Star-Link, all in the same war.

  • @bmw_m4255

    @bmw_m4255

    28 күн бұрын

    brings a tear to my eye

  • @matsv201

    @matsv201

    28 күн бұрын

    To be fair. Medium size machineguns have not improved that much since ww1

  • @artyombeilis9075

    @artyombeilis9075

    28 күн бұрын

    If so from WW1 trenches and deadlock...

  • @The_Funguseater

    @The_Funguseater

    28 күн бұрын

    A couple of Web Cams and Tablets... those old T-55s are rockin....lol

  • @hemlocksalad5383

    @hemlocksalad5383

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@matsv201 Cap

  • @henryairconcepts2999
    @henryairconcepts299928 күн бұрын

    Lockheed will be charging $2M for that iPad mounted on F16

  • @mho...

    @mho...

    14 күн бұрын

    *for the mounts^^ ipad not included ;)

  • @Mench2007
    @Mench200728 күн бұрын

    makes sense, the MiG-29s avionics can’t support the AGM-88 normally so using an iPad with a custom software installed to allow for the aircraft to use the HARMs makes perfect sense.

  • @reso372

    @reso372

    28 күн бұрын

    The planes in the video were Flankers but the same thing would apply to them too i guess

  • @yakymua

    @yakymua

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Wolcott we began su-25 upgrades but not as extensive as Georgia or some nato countries to support guided ordinance

  • @lasselahti4056

    @lasselahti4056

    28 күн бұрын

    Yeah that is actually pylon adapter which Can that ad Be "I/O controlled" etc. Where the plane normally Would integrate The missile to the western planes computers itself and use the planes sensors, though the range is little bit smaller as This uses missiles own seeking head. If I don't remember totally correctly or have understood incorrectly, this adapter is some older application from the times NATO was looking that What they could do with eastern germany planes, but ofc coding software with iPad isnt. I bet there has been systems for old i/o com2 style rag computers of ISS which they (NASA, Esa) also uses with iPad. With last I am not saying This is NASA made but would not be amazed if the base for the software Wood have been already there inside us more or less.

  • @lasselahti4056

    @lasselahti4056

    28 күн бұрын

    But yeah basically it just "drives The pylon", I bet also other western ammunation could be used with this, at least those which don't need planes own sensors. Of course there is an rwr (that led system :P) in mig29 but try to connect harm to it... 😂

  • @michelestefanini5466

    @michelestefanini5466

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@reso372doesn't change sh1t

  • @tripcee3367
    @tripcee336728 күн бұрын

    If its stupid but it works, then it aint stupid

  • @bmw_m4255

    @bmw_m4255

    28 күн бұрын

    ok mcarther

  • @John_Redcorn_

    @John_Redcorn_

    28 күн бұрын

    Na, its still pretty dumb

  • @yt45204

    @yt45204

    27 күн бұрын

    @@John_Redcorn_ Which alternative is better?

  • @jaype331

    @jaype331

    27 күн бұрын

    The tech onboard is old slow and finiky. The I pad is like a screen from a new gen or something. More efficient information processing.

  • @John_Redcorn_

    @John_Redcorn_

    26 күн бұрын

    @@yt45204 actually spending money building a legit military. They had 30 years to do so and didnt.

  • @Skinflaps_Meatslapper
    @Skinflaps_Meatslapper28 күн бұрын

    I can shed a bit of light on the subject. The ipads are used as a human interface for the adapted hardware with an I/O box that integrates them together. They take in the variables and displays them to the pilot, the pilot inputs his stuff into the ipad, and the ipad tells the I/O box what to do in the same way that native hardware in more modern jets otherwise would. We use these in our GPS units for ag flying in the same way. The ipad isn't actually physically connected to anything on the jet, just the I/O box that feeds the ipad and receives instructions from it. It's not terribly difficult to create an app for the ipad and an I/O box to mimic native software and hardware, and there's so much functionality that the ipad (or any newer tablet) can mash together for a coherent and intuitive display for data and controls. I mean, the fanciest Garmin panels are really nothing more than bespoke tablets, it's the software and I/O boxes they're connected to that are responsible for making it a G1000. The biggest problem I see with using an ipad revolves around the mandatory apple updates that can often turn that stable software into a buggy mess, and that's the last thing you want when you're relying on it to fight a war. Imagine shutting down for the day with everything working great, the ipad decides to update itself overnight, and then when you're in the air the next day you find out that your stupid ipad won't let you drop the warheads you're carrying.

  • @benshakespeare268

    @benshakespeare268

    28 күн бұрын

    Insightful post. It would be so cool to see what they’re up to and what music they’re listening to on iTunes when they fly 😁 Bet they called their app “JetPlay” 🤪 FYI updates aren’t mandatory for apple products. I use their phones, tablets and computers and none of them are the current OS. This is for similar reasons that you mention. I have run software that is either not updated anymore, has gone down the subscription route or generally (as you say) breaks with after OS updates.

  • @_EllieLOL_

    @_EllieLOL_

    28 күн бұрын

    Apple does not have mandatory updates, that’s Windows

  • @Paul-yh8km

    @Paul-yh8km

    28 күн бұрын

    It's great when someone with actual engineering experience and knowledge posts a comment like this. It's certainly not rocket science! Some graduate probably used a microcontroller and python code for the custom hardware 😄

  • @Skinflaps_Meatslapper

    @Skinflaps_Meatslapper

    28 күн бұрын

    Updates are all but mandatory with the nonstop popups telling you that you need to update, which is just as problematic as letting it update. With auto updates turned off, I'd get popups every 10 seconds to a minute, randomly. These interfere with the interface and use of the ipad, and if you're using it to precisely drop something based off the moving map, you might as well forget about it. So yeah, that basically makes them mandatory whether you want to or not. At least when you update there's a chance that everything will still work fine. In my situation, there's a whole team of software engineers aware of the problem and they don't sleep until they're able to push a new update to fix the bugs from the apple update. Could be a few hours, could be a week or more. Rooting the ipad would be a solution, but that comes with its own pitfalls, the least of which is apple throwing a fit and dropping their app from the store for condoning jailbreaking. The majority of the customer base doesn't want to go that route either, so the few of us that need that 100% reliability are left out in the cold. Pretty sure Ukraine wouldn't care about that and roots all of their ipads so they're more stable. They likely have some other software added in to wipe all data in the event that they're recovered by Russia as well. I have no doubt there's probably some arduino boards and other home-baked electronics flying with them as well.

  • @_EllieLOL_

    @_EllieLOL_

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Skinflaps_Meatslapper I have an iPad, iPhone, and Apple Watch all running either iOS 14 or 15 and not once have I gotten a popup telling me to update

  • @gram8821
    @gram882128 күн бұрын

    On the way back after a SEAD mission they can watch the Mover and & Gonky show on the iPad. 😉

  • @lasselahti4056

    @lasselahti4056

    28 күн бұрын

    And play angry birds!

  • @bromine_35

    @bromine_35

    22 күн бұрын

    SNEED

  • @folgee7368
    @folgee736828 күн бұрын

    Getting a software update notification while proving air support is crazy

  • @dougle03

    @dougle03

    28 күн бұрын

    And unlikely. The Ukraine is home to a large and very talented group of IT professionals, coders and developers, most of which have been pressed into military service with their unique skills. It's not all hacking Russian systems. Development of an iOS app or two with OS customisations is well within the capabilities of these talented individuals. Give them a platform they know well and who knows what they are capable of doing. Adding smarts to an old war jet would be relatively easy for these people. Agile development will be making this possible... It could rewrite western procurement and development doctrine...

  • @lsdzheeusi

    @lsdzheeusi

    28 күн бұрын

    @@dougle03 It's a joke, calm down

  • @kypdurron62
    @kypdurron6228 күн бұрын

    Dude they're firing HARMs from iPads. That's awesome.

  • @Leon-bc8hm

    @Leon-bc8hm

    14 күн бұрын

    And now you want to download their app ?

  • @bigearl3867
    @bigearl386728 күн бұрын

    Ukraine is very much like Spain during its civil war of 1936-1939. A lot of the technology was tested in that war. We are seeing the same types of tests in Ukraine.

  • @dougle03

    @dougle03

    28 күн бұрын

    Technology is tested in every war. It's possible that Germany still hold the development quantum record during WW2

  • @hwuilee

    @hwuilee

    28 күн бұрын

    Seeing as the Spanish civil war was to ww2 what the mexican-american war was to the American Civil war, your analogy terrifies me.

  • @NiSiochainGanSaoirse

    @NiSiochainGanSaoirse

    28 күн бұрын

    Hardly... Ukraine is given the oldest and most well known weapons. Spain was literally filled with brand new weaponry. Ukraine is filled with old weaponry.

  • @bigearl3867

    @bigearl3867

    28 күн бұрын

    @@NiSiochainGanSaoirse So, you're saying the cheap drones, 3D printing, and 5G communications aren't changing the battle space? Currently this is the closest you're going to get to near peer nations going at it. True, Ukraine is getting a lot of old equipment that is past its prime but the data that is being collected will be seen when the main big boys lock horns.

  • @michelestefanini5466

    @michelestefanini5466

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@NiSiochainGanSaoirseah yes because we should send f22s to Ukraine right. Obviously they sent known weapons. It's obviously changed from 80 years ago.

  • @maestromecanico597
    @maestromecanico59728 күн бұрын

    Glass cockpit is a glass cockpit.

  • @bmw_m4255

    @bmw_m4255

    28 күн бұрын

    ok mcarther

  • @jtjames79

    @jtjames79

    26 күн бұрын

    With the Meta Quest 4, replace the canopy entirely with cameras. I own a Quest 3, because I'm working on the same technology for my e-bike "HUD". There are still some critical features that are necessary first. At least without rolling all your own software.

  • @neues3691
    @neues369128 күн бұрын

    I remember early Syrian Civil War footage where the Syrian Air force used tablets to navigate their choppers. If a 1000€ tablet can make your old jet be combat effective again, why not.

  • @pistonburner6448

    @pistonburner6448

    28 күн бұрын

    Well, how much more would some other display and a simple custom plastic or aluminium cowling cost really? I think people are focusing too much on appearances...it's the programming and integration that's the big deal, not which devices they chose. Though I am surprised as to why they didn't even bother to 3D-print a proper cowling...reduce the sun hitting the tablet.

  • @matsv201

    @matsv201

    28 күн бұрын

    .back in the 80 and 90s (and possibly in the 70s) there was this software that was super simple. It just did two things. It resived data and displayed it, or it resive data from a tochscreen (and some cases external levers) and sent them. The first version was just a a text based system and the very early version didnt even have touch support. Pretty much all and any systems from a ATM machine, to a train or heavy industrial machinety used this software. Typicallt it was a PC running the software and some kind of unix of bespoke computer actually taking the reading. Later it evolved to use VGA grapics and evetually windows CE desktop. It really was overkill to use a full computer just tomdisplay some numbers. But for stuff like trains and ATM machines that was built just a few hundred or thousand this was far cheaper. Today ipad do exactly the same thing. I seen a hotel juice dispenser that use a ipad just to select to dispense juice.

  • @mazdavorot

    @mazdavorot

    22 күн бұрын

    They haven't such jamming.

  • @Halli50
    @Halli5028 күн бұрын

    Experimental vs. Certified equipment: In a desperate shooting war, priorities change. Safety becomes less important, innovation flourishes and bureaucracy is mostly thrown overboard.

  • @ardentglazier2867
    @ardentglazier286728 күн бұрын

    Whatever works. "Anything is possible when your home planet is about to be nuked till it glows." Having worked Navy echelon 3 back in my misspent youth, a lot of the time-to-deploy a capability is just waiting: waiting for approval, waiting for funding to be programmed, waiting for funding to be obligated, waiting for funding to arrive, waiting for money to go out on contract, waiting for engineers or developers to come available, waiting for gear to arrive, etc., etc. Then you do the work, then wait for the next testing cycle, wait for acceptance sign off, wait for the next time your ship is available, wait for leadership folks on the ship to be available, wait for operators to be available for training, etc., etc., all the while hoping your funding isn't stolen for something 'more important'. I've seen capabilities that were fully developed never get deployed because they repeatedly missed their ship schedule because the ships were needed elsewhere (not enough ships for all the missions) and the program ran out of money and died. And that's all assuming there's space on the ship (either server space or rack space for a new server) available....and that's just on the ISR side. The steely-eyed warrior side or aircraft is even worse. If you really want to hurt your brain on how U.S. RDT&E works, try reading "Bureaucratic Nirvana: Life in the Center of the Box" by Hugh Montgomery. You'll either be fascinated by the epicycles of the system or run screaming in terror, eyes bleeding. I just laughed when I read it because I was already insane from 20+ years in the box.....

  • @Snoop_Dugg

    @Snoop_Dugg

    27 күн бұрын

    What about the movie Pentagon Wars

  • @ardentglazier2867

    @ardentglazier2867

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Snoop_Dugg I think it's funny, personally, as things much like those have happened on this project or that, though never at the same time. Whether it's true to the subject, well, I wasn't there, I've heard that there are a lot of, uh, 'personalities' involved. YMMV.

  • @keithbarron3654
    @keithbarron365428 күн бұрын

    The first time I saw an F-14 on static display,1974-5, it had a fuzz buster radar detector in upper right side of canopy, 12 VDC was the hard part.

  • @PapaOscarNovember
    @PapaOscarNovember27 күн бұрын

    It's not that different from general aviation. Private pilots fly with iPad and iPhone all the time. iPad and apps update cycle is much shorter than certified avionics and therefore are much more sophisticated and functional. FAA now recommends private pilot use iPad, since mishap statistics clearly indicates lives are saved when private pilots augment their flying with iPad and navigation software (such as ForeFlight).

  • @steilkurbler4973

    @steilkurbler4973

    27 күн бұрын

    Airline pilots too

  • @PeterOZ61
    @PeterOZ6128 күн бұрын

    all you need is a GUI that talks over a MIL-STD-1553, from there just about anything can be added.

  • @thebarkingmouse
    @thebarkingmouse28 күн бұрын

    Seems like a great idea. Could use an iPad or any android tablet and use them to interface with weapons. Could put a pi zero on each weapon interface to handle interpretation and communication. Pi zeros are about $10 each, and ethernet is cheap. Run it up to a tablet, and you have what you need.

  • @DanielsPolitics1

    @DanielsPolitics1

    28 күн бұрын

    I think the price of any of the Raspberry Pi models doesn’t matter, but the Zero and Pico obviously offer SWaP advantages over the main line models.

  • @seani1473
    @seani147328 күн бұрын

    You work with what you have. I understand our US process of testing and certification, robust and safe to use. One could argue the IPAD could be hacked, insecure, not made to pull X amount of g's or whatever. In the end it is war, you use whatever you can to give you an advantage. I think it is neat thinking outside the box like this.

  • @cyrusaverell3494
    @cyrusaverell349428 күн бұрын

    For what it is worth, this is the 3rd time I have had to resubscribe. KZread being KZread

  • @tflashtube
    @tflashtube28 күн бұрын

    It's also the cost-efficiency of mass consumer electronics that changes the whole ballgame.

  • @mho...

    @mho...

    14 күн бұрын

    cost-efficiency xD its an apple!^^

  • @PeDr0.UY131
    @PeDr0.UY13128 күн бұрын

    Super expensive weapons systems versus super cheap improvised weapons systems, that is the paradox that this war is showing.

  • @pistonburner6448

    @pistonburner6448

    28 күн бұрын

    Well, what do you base your assumption of cost differences on? A system using an iPad as the display and computer can be more expensive or less expensive than an interface using a generic or different display and computer. Using some other computer plus generic display and having a custom cowling manufactured would probably cost a fraction of a percent of the overall development costs, and possibly as mich as buying an iPad. What is probably saved most is time, when just crudely slapping an iPad on the dash instead of integrating a display and computer into the cockpit.

  • @dougle03

    @dougle03

    28 күн бұрын

    @@pistonburner6448 A $1000 iPad would magically become a $23000 iPad by the time it emerged via DOJ procurement.... We all know this, it's called the DOJ tax that all suppliers and contractors add....

  • @bndahi8251
    @bndahi825128 күн бұрын

    the Business insider photo looks like the ipad is running Foreflight. you can tell because they have the navlog feature expanded, which can show distance, magnetic heading and time to a waypoint. if the ipad is cellular, it can get a GPS position down to 3 meters.

  • @YuzuRyougi

    @YuzuRyougi

    9 күн бұрын

    It's Foreflight. To the right of the iPad is a Gramin handheld GPS, which does work with Foreflight.

  • @gram8821
    @gram882128 күн бұрын

    Something similar occurred when the LANTRN was integrated with the F-14. Accomplished in a minimal amount of time and within budget. It gave the Tomcat a truly lethal capability.

  • @hoghogwild

    @hoghogwild

    28 күн бұрын

    ...a truly lethal air-ground capability.

  • @dinnfish
    @dinnfish28 күн бұрын

    in south korea, f-5 fly with some kind of pad drop KGGB which is similar to JDAM-er.

  • @bmw_m4255

    @bmw_m4255

    28 күн бұрын

    what

  • @Bluelagoonstudios
    @Bluelagoonstudios28 күн бұрын

    Ukraine's proved that they innovate, and even modify stuff for more efficient strikes, look to those sea drones, they have no Navy, but hurt the Russians badly. And that doesn't surprise me, in Soviet times, all innovation for space rockets came from there. I admire the Ukraine people for this alone. Besides, their will to pull this off.

  • @JazzJaRa

    @JazzJaRa

    28 күн бұрын

    Most ships and Aircraft were built in Ukraine too, that's why it is hard for russia to simply replace the ones they lose.

  • @dzonikg

    @dzonikg

    15 күн бұрын

    @@JazzJaRa YEs like all aircraft carriers were build in Ukraine part off USSR in Nikolayev .Its why Russian now cant build them

  • @AshGTE
    @AshGTE28 күн бұрын

    The Brits had a thing called "urgent operational requirements". They implemented it after the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. The normal process of equipment procurement was far to slow and inflexible. It really did make a huge difference to life on the ground. They stopped it eventually and implemented a computer system which means nobody gets any work done but the bean counters.

  • @noahway13
    @noahway1328 күн бұрын

    As they say, Don't let perfection get in the way of doing good.

  • @gojithecringe
    @gojithecringe28 күн бұрын

    Ukraine is fighting a war from both past and future

  • @francescozambaldi8212

    @francescozambaldi8212

    16 сағат бұрын

    *losing a war

  • @johnmartinez316
    @johnmartinez31628 күн бұрын

    WWl, WWII, the absolute best example of experimental aviation.

  • @SidewaysEightSix
    @SidewaysEightSix28 күн бұрын

    Actually Gonky makes a great point. Every Apple product I’ve had has been very sensitive to overheating in direct sunlight

  • @GrahamCStrouse

    @GrahamCStrouse

    27 күн бұрын

    Might be some other kind of tablet?

  • @benhobe
    @benhobe28 күн бұрын

    Tomcats in the early 80s flew with automotive radar detectors. One on each side of the front cockpit glareshield.

  • @DemiG0D23
    @DemiG0D2328 күн бұрын

    Weird WW2 comment, considering Ukraine was fully occupied during that war and in general, an active participant. Maybe war for independence is what they meant.

  • @elijah_9392

    @elijah_9392

    27 күн бұрын

    I have two interpretations: 1. The significance to the Ukrainians is analagous to the significance of WW2 to the US 2. He is relating Ukriane to Vichy France.

  • @drfill9210
    @drfill921027 күн бұрын

    Hey guys, making the systems work is sometimes not as hard s you think... for example, any instrument on the plane can literally be captured by a camera and trained to convert the light signal into whatever format your harm needs.

  • @MooseVR
    @MooseVR20 күн бұрын

    On the way to a CAS mission while watching Netflix 💀

  • @TastierBackInThe80s
    @TastierBackInThe80s27 күн бұрын

    That helmet airwork on that one pilot!

  • @DraxTheDestroyer
    @DraxTheDestroyer21 күн бұрын

    I love stuff like this, putting different parts and technologies together to achieve a goal on the same platform. Ingenious!

  • @Battlestargroup
    @Battlestargroup28 күн бұрын

    I think there should be a an award similar to the Nobel Peace Prize but for MacGyver ingenuity to makes things work together effectively that were never designed to do. Unless there is such a thing already in existence I’m just not aware of. Who knew you could fire a HARM with an iPad 🙃

  • @nevisstkitts8264
    @nevisstkitts826428 күн бұрын

    Waiting for the MIG29 upgrade: adding backseater x-box controller virtual/remote RIO/EWO app connected via starlink (ring array) ... Hopefully, there's AI to help with the rusty Ukrainian. 360 staring optics would be cool ...

  • @suicidalbanananana

    @suicidalbanananana

    23 күн бұрын

    Starlink is Elon, Elon is Russian sympathizer, do not want.

  • @trololoev

    @trololoev

    22 күн бұрын

    any AI said Ukrainians that they should use Volga live to surrender and survive.

  • @therish7169
    @therish716928 күн бұрын

    Necessity is the mother of invention.

  • @lucdelhaize4029
    @lucdelhaize402927 күн бұрын

    Totally what I was thinking before it was even mentioned; iPads shut off when exposed to sunlight heat behind a windscreen which I found when I mounted mine showing live maps on the dash of my 4WD.

  • @nekomakhea9440
    @nekomakhea944028 күн бұрын

    What app do I download to make an iPad compatible with SEAD munitions?

  • @matsv201

    @matsv201

    28 күн бұрын

    A true killer app

  • @Wannes_

    @Wannes_

    28 күн бұрын

    The all new improved MIL-STD-1553 PRO dongle from Apple ! Only $999,999

  • @crazypetec-130fe7
    @crazypetec-130fe7Ай бұрын

    'Actually' this is Ukraine's second WW2. Their first was in the early 1940s.

  • @rklkify

    @rklkify

    28 күн бұрын

    you could also include ukrainian war of indepedence which did start while WW1 was happening

  • @kevin.keen.socialmedia
    @kevin.keen.socialmedia28 күн бұрын

    I would like to know whether the iPad was coupling sensor feeds from the aircraft, the weapon, and even other assets to engage the target. In a pinch, just managing the HARM is good enough in addition to setting up a compatible launch rail and fire control. It is essential for Ukraine to regain control of its airspace.

  • @samiamgreeneggsandham7587
    @samiamgreeneggsandham758728 күн бұрын

    What’s the SEAD app called in the iPhone App Store? Can’t find it.😂

  • @aamiddel8646
    @aamiddel864628 күн бұрын

    Another cost driver (and takes time) is the documentation (TO's) and the whole support (spares/testing etc) footprint.

  • @user-fu8vn7xo6c
    @user-fu8vn7xo6c26 күн бұрын

    If so, Ukrainian engineers/ technicians are clever & adaptable. Necessity is the mother of invention. We tend to underestimate their engineers because a lot of their technology was geared toward agriculture before the war. I tend to underestimate them, but that is wrong. Education in a A&M university is not lacking at all, and some farmers I know are extremely smart.

  • @qo2rj
    @qo2rj26 күн бұрын

    Brilliant!!!

  • @TechOttawa
    @TechOttawa27 күн бұрын

    As you said, experimental aircraft use all sorts of new tech, more quickly. And it's often an Apple product. In 1996 at EAA Oshkosh my son and I were lucky to get a full tour of the brand new Rutan Boomerang from the man himself! Asymmetric filament wound carbon composite fuselage with canards but I think the thing he was most jazzed about was showing me the fuel burn chart for the flight in (from Aspen) on the cockpit MacBooks - yes, he had THAT then, 1996. Wow. Dual machines/screens + Graphs, charts and PFD! (And I have it all on video!) LOL and WTH! Two days later I spent a morning with 5 guys and Chuck Yeager - it was so hot no one showed up to a talk we lucky guys heard all his yarns sitting outside a tent around a picnic table. EAA Airventure is always unforgettable.

  • @minthouse6338
    @minthouse633824 күн бұрын

    It be super annoying if during the attack run - the ipad flashed up "your scheduled update has started,, ipad turning off"

  • @AdamKeele
    @AdamKeele26 күн бұрын

    It’s all about giving yourself the advantage in any way you can. We’ve become such a big machine that requires rigid controls and approvals, and far too many people that can’t think outside the box. With the writing on the wall, I’m finally seeing some innovative adaptations since I joined 24 years ago.

  • @annazavarzina6145
    @annazavarzina614528 күн бұрын

    Guys honestly I love you so much and your channel. Therefore I ll leave. ❤️❤️❤️🙂

  • @thelasthallow
    @thelasthallow10 күн бұрын

    how you prevent over temp on your ipads and android tablets is easy, just put it into power saving mode. it reduces the clock speed of the cpu, less clock speed means less heat its litterally a simple toggle in the settings. and you also have the benifit of getting longer battery life.

  • @zTheBigFishz
    @zTheBigFishz27 күн бұрын

    The UAI program was designed to allow for sw upgrades outside of the block upgrade cycle....so called capability driven upgrade cycles.

  • @braincraven
    @braincraven27 күн бұрын

    I really wish Apple would make an iPad that does not overheat. In my airplane with the large windscreen, about three seconds the damn iPad shuts down from overheat.

  • @ImmersedInHistory
    @ImmersedInHistory28 күн бұрын

    In theory, if you make a interface-pylon, it only need power if it can speak to the ipad over WIFI. You can test and develop it all in a workshop anywhere, no need to test it ona a plane.

  • @allen480

    @allen480

    28 күн бұрын

    Then the Wi-Fi gets hacked.

  • @PiDsPagePrototypes
    @PiDsPagePrototypes13 күн бұрын

    "Talk to the machinery",... Well, if the older systems use any sort of serial communication, it's a pretty easy job to use an Arduino as a micro controller to signal the physical devices and listen to them, then translate that to USB connected devices. It's pretty much what the microcode running in a 3D Printer does.

  • @capt.shukri
    @capt.shukri11 күн бұрын

    They are using Foreflight Performance Plus.

  • @maximilliancunningham6091
    @maximilliancunningham609128 күн бұрын

    very innovative.

  • @wyskass861
    @wyskass86115 күн бұрын

    Gives new meaning to "airplane mode"

  • @d_lollol524
    @d_lollol52428 күн бұрын

    use a potable battery electric fan to cool the ipad

  • @allen480

    @allen480

    28 күн бұрын

    Tape a ice pack to it

  • @GrahamCStrouse

    @GrahamCStrouse

    27 күн бұрын

    I would have assumed that Ukraine was using more Android tablets than iPads. The issue with iPads is that Apple goes out of their way to keep you from tampering with and/or fixing them.

  • @ytn00b3
    @ytn00b319 күн бұрын

    Koreans also use ipad for KGGB used in F-16 as US isn't allowing locally produced guided bombs to be integrated and it's almost effective and cheap to operate.

  • @xevious4142
    @xevious41429 күн бұрын

    The MIG-29 is such an elegant looking machine

  • @MyDarkMe
    @MyDarkMe12 күн бұрын

    I think something many people are forgetting is, we know the Mig 29 in and out. Not only were the german Migs flown extensively as agressors in the US, but they were also modified. So its not just knowing how to get the machines onto NATO standards, but its already been done (by what is now Airbus). Especially with the ones that were donated from Poland, because these were actually the former german Migs that are already flying with NATO nav,iff, coms... and weapon systems. Which systems exactly were integrated isnt publicly known or what the poles did afterwards with them, but it would be naive to think that two countries would rely on getting weapons (R73 and R27) from their potential adversary... Granted, this has nothing to do with the Su27s, but I think there might be some knowledge transfer for sure and I dont think its far fetched to assume that some company, has plug and play pylon adapters lying around, that give you at least basic functionality...

  • @AegisAuroraTV
    @AegisAuroraTV28 күн бұрын

    I don't think the weapon is integrated with the aircraft at all. My assumption is the iPad is simply communicating with a modified pylon over bluetooth or WIFI, completely bypassing the launch aircraft's avionics.

  • @starbase218

    @starbase218

    28 күн бұрын

    Could be - HARMs will seek out a source to lock on to after launch. So they could just be using the RWR to get a bearing and approximate range, and use the iPad to fire the missile.

  • @matsv201
    @matsv20128 күн бұрын

    Consudering that a modern tablet have a absolute crap ton of component that even fightejets lack a few deckades back. So onviusly a touch screen interface A 6 axlis solid state gyros. While not as good as the one on a aircraft, also still usable. Several high resolution cameras and hardware for real time picture analys. A ladar. Multiple global posiition system integration. Memory sifficent to store a detail map of the whole world. More peocessing power than a supercomputer when those planes was built. High speed wireless networking. Telecom conection integrated People think of it as "just a tablet". But there is probobly more texhonoly in them than the jet.

  • @raceace
    @raceace28 күн бұрын

    Necessity the mother of invention.

  • @calebgreenlee8056
    @calebgreenlee805627 күн бұрын

    What’s the name of the app?

  • @IezekiLLL
    @IezekiLLL21 күн бұрын

    In general, from a design point of view, there is nothing wrong with using “civilian” electronics for military purposes on a low budget. The bulk of the cost of military electronics comes from small-scale production, driven by specific requirements - mainly protection from aggressive conditions and situations, such as the effects of a nuclear explosion. Whereas if we remove these conditions from the problem, it turns out that assembling an electronics complex for a heavy-class air defense missile system costs 5 million dollars, not 500.

  • @ajkulac9895
    @ajkulac989528 күн бұрын

    If it works it works 👍

  • @galaxymyt4834
    @galaxymyt483420 күн бұрын

    They can upgrade avionics with cheap prices too use new area radar new AIM120 d missile and another things

  • @andytraill
    @andytraill21 күн бұрын

    Deeply impressive people.

  • @garethbaker5179
    @garethbaker517928 күн бұрын

    Shortly after the war began I saw a video of a Russian pilot who had brought a long their own handheld gps device so this is no surprise.

  • @ILikeTuwtles
    @ILikeTuwtles13 күн бұрын

    bro got that ForeFlight on deck

  • @danh6720
    @danh672028 күн бұрын

    Makes sense to me.

  • @verdebusterAP
    @verdebusterAP28 күн бұрын

    Makes sense

  • @omerk8403
    @omerk840321 күн бұрын

    It's like trying to play a Windows game in a different OS like Linux based distros or MacOS. You can find a solution to anything as long as you find the reason.

  • @ES-art
    @ES-art28 күн бұрын

    Ukraine have been waiting on the Viper for awhile? I remember it being the news...what last year? The news bits with the pilots training. I always wondered what happened with that.

  • @Statueshop297

    @Statueshop297

    19 күн бұрын

    Denmark is starting deliveries this month. It takes a lot to get an aircraft type into service and we aren’t going to see all the aircraft arrive straight away

  • @rocketbob
    @rocketbob28 күн бұрын

    Look closely, they are running Foreflight on the iPad.

  • @demwillams8898
    @demwillams889828 күн бұрын

    "Netflix..." lol

  • @slammerf16
    @slammerf1628 күн бұрын

    Could you get an avionics tech in to give his thoughts,?

  • @loafoffloof3420
    @loafoffloof342023 күн бұрын

    The 'true airplane' mode

  • @EnterpriseKnight
    @EnterpriseKnight28 күн бұрын

    With computing power this strong, all you need is the 5v to charge the tablet.

  • @minthouse6338

    @minthouse6338

    28 күн бұрын

    They say my cell phone has more computing power than what was used in the Apollo program. I just need to figure out where to get hold of a Saturn V.

  • @eastcoastsailingcenter7768
    @eastcoastsailingcenter776812 күн бұрын

    are they using a normal navigation app ....? looks like it

  • @OgOssman
    @OgOssman21 күн бұрын

    Hey whatever works, works.

  • @jamesmcmahon7837
    @jamesmcmahon783715 күн бұрын

    Note of caution At least one fatal helicopter crash due to IPad falling of mount and getting trapped in controls (pedals I think).. Not sure if any other incidents..

  • @esraeloh8681
    @esraeloh868127 күн бұрын

    This feels very Gmod in real life too me

  • @leefisher816
    @leefisher81622 күн бұрын

    Necessity is the mother of invention

  • @roblockhart6104
    @roblockhart610427 күн бұрын

    In other words, more computing power than all 4th gen analog fighters.

  • @ThroneOfBhaal
    @ThroneOfBhaal27 күн бұрын

    Probably not a terrible idea, it's probably faster and easier to code an app than try and get a MiG to handle a HARM.

  • @RobertNowagarski
    @RobertNowagarski16 күн бұрын

    What is that old saying? “If it is stupid but works, then it isn’t stupid”

  • @TheMadSentinel
    @TheMadSentinel28 күн бұрын

    But did the HARMS interface application require the Ukrainian pilots to link their accounts to the PlayStation Network...?

  • @dawn_alex
    @dawn_alex28 күн бұрын

    Things are getting desperate in Ukraine

  • @Statueshop297

    @Statueshop297

    19 күн бұрын

    Things have always been desperate. They are fighting Russia which has the largest stored amount of military vehicles on earth. Now while loads of Russian kit and people have been taken off the battle field there is still a lot to go before the stored equipment will run out. It’s horrific and Russia needs to leave Ukraine and stop this war.

  • @mho...
    @mho...14 күн бұрын

    in the end its just an overpiced PC..... the software is the big player!

  • @llYossarian
    @llYossarian27 күн бұрын

    Does the term _wild weasel_ refer to a "weasel's" exposure to danger when raiding a chicken coop or does it refer to the predatory behavior of making themselves so conspicuous that their prey remains exposed until targeted? -- I understand the nature of SEAD missions and always assumed the former but having seen those "weasel war dance" videos it's just got me wondering...

  • @pingumy
    @pingumy23 күн бұрын

    "some assistance" yea...

  • @BODShotgun
    @BODShotgun25 күн бұрын

    Device needs to update

  • @jade7631
    @jade763122 күн бұрын

    I’d bet if Russia did that, the media would go crazy saying things like “Russia using iPad for weapon control” or “Russia out of advanced weapon systems and resort to using iPad”

  • @wrayday7149
    @wrayday714926 күн бұрын

    Redesign an entire cockpit to fit a display panel.... bolt an Ipad with it's own power supply to the front?

  • @johnv.6136
    @johnv.613627 күн бұрын

    necessity is the mother of all innovation. Slava Ukrani. Still need to give them good kit. I am sure we already have techno liaisons in theater but yeah - the Ukrainians are showing how to apply innovative technology systems & solutions real-time in battle. Great Vid.

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