other option is wheeled platform from Patria, which has been in concideration by marines for few years

@MKitchen75

Ай бұрын

8X8 or 6X6 has good mobility with either AMOS or NEMO

When you don't want go outside to get sht done😂🇫🇮✌️

@solofilmproduction

Ай бұрын

Very civilised, those damn things can be dreadful on the ears!

I love the twin bareled Nemo. Wery sad to se our Swedish army not adopting it. Its so cool.

@RePlayBoy101

Ай бұрын

dont you guys have a better version the cv90 version

@0Turbox

Ай бұрын

I doubt you need that volume of firepower with how accurate the modern systems are.

@Ruppe62

Ай бұрын

@@RePlayBoy101 Yes and its a better one too

@AlexKall

Ай бұрын

The army didn't adopt AMOS because out politicians decided to pull out of the program (Swedish-Finnish program). We had 40 chassis ready for install.

@AlexKall

Ай бұрын

@@RePlayBoy101 Mjölner is a cheaper and simpler solution, it is not as capable as the AMOS system however. It's still a good implementation though and adds a lot of capability compared to current systems.

As an old 11C, I approve of this message.

The 120mm or 4.2" mortar are very reliable simple easy to fire mortar. It can be dismounted and fired on the ground. These semi-automatic mortars are accurate. The Haglunds system mounted in the CV90 has 2 mortar tubes my guess is to achieve a higher rate of fire. The advantage of manually fired mortars over semi-automatic mortars is the rate of fire. I would rater have a Fire-for-effect mission out in 30-60 seconds rather than wait on the semi-automatic mortar.

@WolfHeathen

Ай бұрын

The CV90 system uses the Swedish digitized battle management platform C4I LSS Mark artillery command and control system. It can acquire target coordinates from many different types of electronic recon information equipment including tanks, mobile command centers, field personnel, sensors, drones and satellites.

@jaripukki267

Ай бұрын

Slower than amos, which is allso mounted on cv90

@herptek

Ай бұрын

There is a two barrelled version of basically this same system which is in service in Finland, although in few numbers, called AMOS.

Needs more fpv drone protection

I'm fairly certain if I took part in this battle I would have died without doing anything productive. The bravery of these men gives me chills

@sysghost

Ай бұрын

Dying means you've absorbed damage someone else would've. ;)

Nemo name came from finnish general Vilho Nenonen he was arty general who invented firecontrol system witch allow multiple mortar fire to same position.

@janizzkar

Ай бұрын

The name comes from NEw MOrtar last time i heard. AMOS stands for Advanced MOrtar System for example.

@jyrisiitonen

Ай бұрын

Actualy the Nemo name come from "New mortar system"

This is a nice vehicle mounted system. Nice to see our military is watching the European use of the NEMO. With this system, you get a great mortar with a direct fire capability. I do wonder if 120mm vs 81mm mortar is no longer a use discussion. Can a 81mm meet or come close to weight on target with the 81mm compared the the 120mm? That is important if you can't interject the larger vehicle into the battle area. If it comes down to the M1 Grunt carrying mortar rounds, the 60mm was easier to issue out than a 81mm versus a heavier 120mm during light equipped unit operations.

Patria: When if is no option. Negotiations for the Nemo system between Patria and the U.S. Army began in 2014. You can find more information on Patria's website. Patria and BAE Systems companies are partners that have collaborated on various defense projects. For example, they jointly offered the AMV35 armored reconnaissance vehicle to the Australian Army for the Land 400 Phase 2 program. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqSYq6OcocS_pKg.html

That is not a BEA system. Its made by Patria in Finland.

@ospehu1

Ай бұрын

Patria is part of Swedish arm industey that is part of BEA systems. Bur you are right that planing was maid in Finland passed on AMOS

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

@@ospehu1 It's BAE !

@ospehu1

Ай бұрын

@@RJM1011 sorry of typo but the issue is just the same that never the less tech is from Patria AMOS all though it uses two barels unlike nemo.

@ospehu1

Ай бұрын

@@RJM1011 all tough NEMO uses only one barel unlike AMOS that has two of them. Simce it was designed in away that it can lounch around 18 grenades to the air with differend trajector so they would land to the target area simultaniosly at same time since the system would count the trajector to each individual grenades shooting first one in the highest trajector and each grenades is little lower than the first shot would be so those grenades would land on the target area all at once. The system was evolved after Finland joined to Ottawa agreament and banned the use of infantry land mines to replace them. NEMO is basically same system useing only one barel of 120mm grenade instead of two like AMOS. But since all those companies are more or less same company since they all share the same systems. And since Finland was not member of NATO untill 4.4.2023 it could not sell these systems to NATO members before that by it self there need to be company that can to get them in to the NATO countries market.

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

@@ospehu1 Yes I know it's from Patria ! BAE is building the base unit they are putting it on.

Can it fire bonus rounds ?

Pity the USA does not use the CV90 which this mortar is already mounted on.

Wilho Petter Nenonen . Centralized artillery support . Aren't any bells ringing, just whether the number of viewers is more important

These look very promising! Also, given the limitation of making millions of 155mm artillery shells, one might be able to more rapidly and cheaply scale up the manufacture of 120mm mortar rounds to help fill any gaps that might come from running low on 155mm rounds in all all out conflict such as the war in Ukraine. That said, these might need some anti UAV provisions as well.

In a recent statement and I suspect as a result of listening to Ukrainian advice the British Army is now moving to a 120mm replacement for the current 81mm. Previous thinking has been the 105mm light gun gives everything the 120mm mortar can plus more besides. I believe the 81mm mortars are to be given to the Royal Marines and Air assault units (paras) as with them weight is all. The remainder of the army will have both the 120mm and 105 light gun to support them. I further suspect BAE being a British entity it will with great interest British procuremment view the US trials as well as the Swedish Mjolner turret system. I think we can expect to see a Rheinmetall designed box feature these two systems for trial purposes onto the excellent Boxer chassis and maybe what should be the eventual excellent (Given the ammount of money thrown at the disaster to make it viable) Ajax chassis. Interesting to watch that one. I also reckon we might be seeing a throwback to the old ABBOT 105mm SPH being considered also again for the Boxer and/or Ajax. Also interesting to watch for any sign of that one. Standardization of NATO equipt and munitions just makes sense no matter who's making it. Doubt the US would agree on that one however.

Latest competition for this - kzread.info/dash/bejne/dGd1u6ylacXHedo.html I believe this has already been accepted into the Swedish inventory but could be wrong. IMHO this is better option. Take note of the price.

That looks like Finland "Patria mortar" vehicle.

@ghansu

Ай бұрын

It is. So is the turret.

@79morgan

Ай бұрын

💪💪💪💪its very good equipment then.

@janizzkar

Ай бұрын

Indeed it is. The NEMO is the turret system installed in the patria vehicles. NEMO was designed to be the cheaper and more diverse version of AMOS. And it is becoming a success i think.

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

It is it's only the base unit that is not.

Bae systems? more like Finnish Patria's mortar system, smh.

@peabase

Ай бұрын

BAE is provides the carrier and does the systems integration. Besides, Patria is mentioned up there, in the description. Let's not get overly nationalistic.

@mhh7544

Ай бұрын

@@peabase Jeps, is a joint venture

@ursus9104

Ай бұрын

It is a Patria system. You see the plate inside the vehicle.

@mhh7544

Ай бұрын

@@ursus9104 Jep its like that. NEMO is Patrias own system.

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

Yes it's the same one from Finland it's only the base unit that is coming from BAE.

Sir, maybe soon you must also put anti missile or drone capability, that is more able to counter modern warfare as we see on todays war in Ukraine or in Israel, more power to you.

@pitmarkovic4545

Ай бұрын

The most didn't understand nothing, thank you for the right Words👍

@coltr7561

Ай бұрын

It can use drones. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKaOu85yj6fKmbQ.htmlsi=FI2lHTDg7s5p7g2B

Well ,...imagine 40 or 50 as the top layer in a container ship, "modular firepower" the Pentigoners are heavy pants excited for it. A much better fiasco than those terrible uniforms. It's the armed sea can to defend the drone bases, and laundry units : we need 2000 before the next fiscal budget !

Why waste so much money develop a new under carrier that is not as good as the CV90 hull.? US Army are kind of old thinking, it have to be made in US, otherwise US Army can't use it.! Why can't BAE start to produce CV 90 hull in USA and use that as a platform.?

@duhni4551

Ай бұрын

I was thinking exactly the same

@herptek

Ай бұрын

@@duhni4551 I think Finland should consider adopting this thing on a CV90 platform for convenience sake.

@jaripukki267

Ай бұрын

@@herptek finland mounted it on wheeled vehicles, patria 6x6. Which is going to be common in europe. Users are Germany, Poland, Sweden, Finland and many more

@duhni4551

Ай бұрын

@@herptek I think Finland has few of them on CV, some in AMV and some in landing boats.

@John_Redcorn_

Ай бұрын

Its how we keep a robust military production network. The more stuff you build yourself the better it keeps those companies modern and well-funded. And the US does use a lot of stuff made outside the country (BAE stuff is a British company, but also have a plant in Pennsylvania). The AMPV shares commonality with the Bradley and M109 Paladin, so it makes sense to use it instead of the CV90

Wait what??? They always strive to equip the men with the best possible gear??? LOL>.....No sir, its lowest bidder for those contracts. You can find dozens of articles wherein soldiers say they arent properly equipped or have had to fund their own gear....

Says BAE but it is Patria? BAE vehicle with Patria turret? Seem better if Sweden had gone with NEMO or AMOS rather than the manual one on CV90. Kinda lame?

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

It's BAE and Patria working together on this unit. BAE is mostly US owned now that's how they now have contracts with the USA now.

10 Km? Is it faster than a drone when leaving the firing position?

Air conditioning 😮... If this would have been "Made in Russia" it would have a distillery, that was capable of making 1, 1/2 liter of Moonshine in about 2 hours...

How does this compare to Ukrainian munition drones economically and mission adaptability? And, how would it defend against drones?

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

The USA already has a system for taking out drones, rockets and other it's been is use for years in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Great to see great British inventions equipping our us allies

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

BAE is mostly US owned now ! Same with FRL and FRA sadly.

@glynnwadeson5605

Ай бұрын

I dont know whether Bae are marketing the Nemo in the US, but as someone else pointed out, Nemo is made by Patria of Finland, not Bae.

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

@@glynnwadeson5605 BAE are building the base unit in the USA and working with Patria to mount the Nemo on it.

@dietmarholtz188

Ай бұрын

@@RJM1011 BAE Systems plc is a British multinational aerospace, defence and information security company, based in London, England.[4][5] It is the biggest manufacturer in Britain as of 2017.[6] It is the largest defence contractor in Europe[7] and the seventh-largest in the world based on applicable 2021 revenues.[8] Its largest operations are in the United Kingdom and in the United States, where its BAE Systems Inc. subsidiary is one of the six largest suppliers to the US Department of Defense.

The comment " they always strive to equip soldiers with the best possible gear" is the biggest lie I ever heard. Is that why soldiers had to practically strike to get body armor or humvees that would not blow up if you dropped a grenade by them? Or was it the best gear when they issued m16s in Vietnam that jammed every few rounds?

@blueberrywilbur315

Ай бұрын

For the most part the U.S. Military has always been the best equipped. Have they made mistakes absolutely, it takes time in the middle of a war to turn the giant ship that is the DOJ. Look at the loses in Afghanistan over 20 years? Under 15k, Russia is losing more soldiers every month.

why a new one, the Dragonfly was presented to the US army years ago, modified Stryker, very effective. Also, the Swedes have the AMOS which is what this is, except the AMOS is twin barelled. Duplicated effort.

There better be some of those air defense variants with this 120mm mortar variant - otherwise it is toast.

Drone swarms detaches three drones ,it's history😅

Is this AI created?

@jaripukki267

Ай бұрын

turret is made in Finland and is in use few countries

You should invest in modern drones, drones you can dug in the ground with a docking stations

Are we not taking notes on the battles and wars that are taking place today??? What about incoming projectiles like drones, rockets not even a smoke screen or automatic machine gun for close protection of the vehicle along with the others protecting it!!! But if the pentagon likes it, well then I love it!!!

@jensolsson9666

Ай бұрын

You have them mounted on nearby viechles. Or you have them as addons as the user wants it. You can not have everything on every viechle.

@banananoodles

Ай бұрын

they will most likely be added once testing is over

@John_Redcorn_

Ай бұрын

Not every single peice of equipment needs integrated drone protection. There are other systems specifically for that role that will be used in conjunction with other vehicles.

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

The USA already has a system to take out drones, rockets and other it's been in use in Iraq and Afghanistan for years.

Lebron James, nba goat.

Old stuff...should have built a drone carrier vehicle

@tubevideoguy762

Ай бұрын

until your fancy drones get taken out by a little thing called ELECTRONIC WARFARE all of this vehicles electronics are inside it and shielded against e.w. then you'd suddenly want this mobile shoot on the move accurate long range mortar vehicle dropping deadly 120mm explosives on your enemies😲

@banananoodles

Ай бұрын

@@tubevideoguy762 mortar rounds can be taken out mid air as well-

@coltr7561

Ай бұрын

It can use drones kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKaOu85yj6fKmbQ.htmlsi=FI2lHTDg7s5p7g2B

@coltr7561

Ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKaOu85yj6fKmbQ.htmlsi=FI2lHTDg7s5p7g2B. It can use drone help

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

They already have that !

Weak voiceover.

Pentagon wars lol

FROM NOW ON, IF THESE WEAPON SYSTEM DON'T HAVE ANTI DRONE TECHNOLOGY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM KAMIKAZE STYLE WEAPONS, IS SIMPLY A COFFIN WITH WHEELS AND WORST IF IT IS A CONTAINER, UKRAINE DEMONSTRATED HOW A CHEAP DRONE CAN CAUSE SUCH DEVASTATING ATTACK. TANKS, IFVs and just about every type of combat vehicle have to be equipped with anti drone defense capabilities. as simple as that.

@hornantuutti5157

Ай бұрын

Well those drones destroy only russian made junk. They can stop these from moving but destroying is another story. Also there is other weapon systems around these if west goes to war. You dont put one of these in a open field alone. Use your head mate.

Memo container is doome for two reasons 1)you cannot brew a cuppa for the lads in between fire missions v.poor humint design there and 2) no anti drone capability so once off loaded it’s a sitting duck, boom.

@John_Redcorn_

Ай бұрын

You miss the point. The containers will be off loaded in a semi-permanent location, like a FOB or HQ. There will almost certainly be other systems there for UAV protection.

@michaelcooke7093

Ай бұрын

There was a "canister" round which is like a giant shotgun shell..this with a sensor/guidance package would be useful against aircraft and drones, and would be very effective in direct fire against personnel.

@Scaleyback317

Ай бұрын

Plenty of room for a brew station in the truck container version.

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

There's already a 20mm Gatling gun mounted they same type of way which has been in use for years it's shot down many drones and other in Iraq and other places.

Another metal coffin.Are they learning nothing from the Ukraine armoured vehicle horror show?

@RJM1011

Ай бұрын

You would rather be out in the open with your mortar team and lose more men ???????????

enough with the AI voice crap. hire some talent.

THE CONTAINER SYSTEM SHOULD HAVE MUTLI- SIGHT SYSTEMS AND A SMALL ARMS WEAPON TURRET FOR A CLOSE DEFENCE SYSTEM WITH AN M-134 DILLION IN A TURRET WITH HARD FEED LINKS TO THE WEAPON IN 7.62MM NATO CALIBER. THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING?

@hornantuutti5157

Ай бұрын

First of all.. Your capslock button needs fixin. and thse vehicles are not supposed to drive around in the front line.. They mainly shoot from behind the line and can use direct fire if needed. also they are always escorted with other systems to keep them safe. Wake up buddy.