Don’t feel bad my Tyco collection is nearing 500 pieces. They look at me like I have 2 heads at train shows when I ask for Tyco stuff 😂

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. I feel yer pain. :-)

@VintageRoadRail

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I get those looks too.

@cm-ek4ci

6 ай бұрын

Love them old tycos of the 70’s

@retr0bits545

5 ай бұрын

@@VintageRoadRailfancy seeing you here.

@jasonbrown4239

5 ай бұрын

Hey tyco had some cool stuff I don't have much o gauge but when I was young I did tons of tyco I got it mostly free but I was happy

I'm a old train guy! I love the early 1950's when you have steam and diesels running together!

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

I like the way you think Mark!!

I like tyco for the memories, and America was at a better time. I wish I could browse the Kmart aisle looking at tyco kits again. It's a time capsule for me. Love the video.

@classicmodeltrains

7 ай бұрын

I agree with you Robin! Thanks :-)

@aussiebigbangers

Ай бұрын

Same for me in Australia.. I miss those days

Glad you busted open the box to me getting these old locos running is priceless. I love picking up old Tyco engines and getting them running again. My son in law was at an estate sale and brought back a whole box of old Tyco stuff with the 0 4 0 switcher and a crane and tender car all in mint condition. With a little cleaning and lubing I got the engine running like new. I was in heaven. Love your channel and don't listen to all the rivet counters and purists on the blogs buy what you want and have a ball that's what I do.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Eddie for watching and commenting. Cool score your Son-in-law purchased. Glad there all fixed up and running the rails again.

Super. My railroad still operates a Mantua/Tyco 4-8-0 that I bought when I was quite young. It set me back the princely sum of $19.97 plus Uncle Sam's share. After almost 50 years of use, not only did I get my moneys worth, but the years of handling and operating the locomotive, both inside and outside, have given it a very nice patina, and it looks very realistic. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.

@classicmodeltrains

9 ай бұрын

My main steamer is a 60's era Tyco Pacific. Love it!! Glad to hear you got a workhorse there also

a 45 year old loco thats never been out of the box? thats awsome man!!

@classicmodeltrains

7 ай бұрын

Thanks Gary! Pretty cool to buy "brand new" 45 year old stuff

You and SMT got me interested in older cheaper models. For many years I was a DCC/sound guy and was not intetersted in Tyco and other models. I love repairing and building stuff.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Light side :-)

Old Steamers are all I really like, just something about them old locomotives make me smile.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

There my Favorites also!!

I love all trains! I love all scales! I have said this many of times in my 53 years of having model trains, If you like what you have then your happy and when you nit-pick other people's trains then your not happy! It's the old rivet counters vs the train lovers thing.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

I like the way you think Mark!!

I like old trains they are so much easier to work on and repair, they don't cost you and lot of money. When they quit running you can usually get them to run.with help of u tube. The older trains are a lot of fun. And I am a old guy.lol. 😇👍👌🇺🇸

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

I hear ya and agree! I'm older than I used to be so I'm old too :-)

I myself like old trains like the old Bachmann diesels with 8 wheel drive and the old Tyco and Mantua steam locos and can't forget Varney and American Flyer and Lionel Ho trains.Keep them running dude.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Harry, Thanks for responding! I like the way you think! :-)

My first ho train was a Varney Dockside with 3 car consist for Christmas 1960. I love the older Analog trains; you have to use your imagination more to enjoy it.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Right on! Yup imagination does fill in the "gaps" :-)

I prefer the old stuff, I get a sense of enjoyment from working on them and getting them running again.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello classic, thanks for responding. I too enjoy making the old one run again! :-)

Hi Ron first off you are a King and this old guy loves old trains you have a true Classic there your gonna need more shelves lol thanks!!

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Thanks William! Yup I have already outgrown that shelve unit.

TYCO made these locomotives based on the Sierra No. 3. That's why they all have 3 on the front of the smokebox. Great clean up!

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks!

@paulliddiard141

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2R-q7SRpZbSpZs.html Here's mine. It was an eBay purchase... not much run time

Still catching up on all your videos. I will say they are some of the for me some of the most entertaining and informative videos to view. As for old vs new trains, I much prefer the older ones. I like the retro non-DCC types. I collect all kinds with 1940s to 1960s in diesel as my focus. As for steam, I have a small collection of these as well. Currently assembling a Mantua Mikado Steam loco and tender 2-8-2 kit 208. Best wishes and please keep making your excellent videos!

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! We think the same way :-)

I bought this same engine new in the box 20 something years ago. It was already old then. I also took it out of the box, lol. I definitely prefer the older trains, but I am more of a collector than a modeler. I can appreciate the detail and precision of todays models.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

I like collecting them more than running them, But I want them all to be able to run ;-)

You asked an interesting question about old trains, old cars, old dogs and watermelon wine. oh, maybe not that last part.😊 I’ll try not to bore you with this but, I have been watching and listening to you for awhile now. So, some facts about me. I’m 85 years old so we’re not in the same league age wise, but it is interesting about our similar interests. My first three cars in a row were Model A’s. Two coups and 2 door sedan. Then it was a 1931 Buick 4 door, fold out 3rd row, 2 bucket seat, long sedan. I do miss that one. My first train ride was in 1942 from Auburn California to Boise Idaho in a noisy wooden seated coach. I have no idea what type of Locomotive pulled it but, it was very very loud. When it pulled into the little Auburn station where we were waiting belching steam, smoke and screaming. So was I!😅 I’ve loved trains ever since. My Grandfather, Pop Massey, was a section Forman just outside Tonapah Nevada and was know as the absolute best track layer on the west coast. They say he laid track by eye and you could always tell when you hit a Massey section because the ride smoothed out like butter. He also was selected by a movie studio and with permission from the railroad, to lay a section of track off the mainline running from Sacramento California to Lake Tahoe Nevada in the mountain range in around 1935 to 1940 to facilitate the filming of a scene of a train derailment from the main line into Lake Tahoe itself. I’m not really sure of the date and sure do wish I knew what movie it was. I’ve heard the train was left in the lake after the rails were removed. What a story! This getting long. i Noticed you were holding a guitar in one of your videos. You were holding it like you what it was all about. I’ve played guitar since I was about 14 years old. I h ad my own band for about 25 years playing country music in local clubs and communities playing lead guitar and singing. Also, you mentioned Recreational Vehicles. I taught RV Repair Adult Education School, 6 month classes, five days a week in Sacramento California for one and a half years graduating three classes. The school was backed by the California Education System. I then went on to write a column about RV Repair for the Sacramento Bee for about a year and 1/2. I was in the Navy for 11 years through Vietnam and was discharged in 1975 on 100% disability. I then spent a lot of years building mountain man knives and restoring old guns. I also worked for the State of California as a Computer Consultant for 12 years before retiring from there. I now work mostly on my new hobby of restoring HO locomotives and tinkering on other scales as well. That is why I enjoy your videos so much. I’m still a novice. There is SO much to learn. I just thought it was interesting that you seem to be someone I know. I know that’s not true but, I always feel like I’m listening to a friend. It’s just me and my wife now. All the kids are grown and for the most part are scattered all around the country. We have 12 great Durand kids and two great, great grand kids. So life is full. My wife recently underwent cancer surgery, but seems to be doing pretty well. If affected her heart though, so now we have that to deal with. As for myself, Cancer of my lung 5 years ago requiring the removal of one of them Two small heart attacks, three small strokes and four episodes of internal bleeding before they repaired my stomach. But, I’m still here. Just not ready to go yet.😊 well, I’ll shut up now. I guess I just wanted to talk. Take care.

@classicmodeltrains

3 ай бұрын

Hello Steven, Thank you for sharing this great story. I wished we went to the same barber because I could sit there all day and listen to some of the amazing stories I'm sure you and other Fellers from your generation have. Especially Mechanic stories of how you did stuff "back in the day". So much knowledge each generation has but the fact that we dont really intermingle between the generations much makes all that great knowledge die out with the generations. I did a pull with Uncles outfit back in the early 90's. Army. Spent many years as a medium / heavy duty truck and equipment mechanic. 25 years or so doing sound and lighting for bands and corporate gigs. I'm better at the drums than the guitar. I possess a very well rounded Resume. Sounds like you were working on the RV's back when they were made with pride. Nowadays they are huge garbage piles that cannot last the length of their one year warranty. Thanks for your compliments and support of my channel. I'm glad you have this hobby to keep your hands busy and that this "young pup" of 56 can teach you a few tricks you dont already know. Good to hear your wife is doing well, and as for you....guess your not ready to throw in the towel. Your getting a lot of exercise running that Reaper off for sure!! Take care as well Sir.

That is one TYCO steam locomotive that I am looking for at a good price. Just love it for some reason ever since I saw it back in the 1970s. The budget is tight, but I am sure one will come along. I have TYCOs 4-6-0 Petticoat Junction locomotive right now in front of me, cleaning and tuning it up. Tomorrow is supposed to be nice weather, so it should be nice in the unheated workshop/layout building for some running of the trains. Having a good time watching your videos. We sure do have a top of the line hobby.

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Petticoat Junction set? I wish I had that one!! Pretty cool :-)

Now that’s a nice looking model, tyco was never known for quality but that looks like it has good detail

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Great video and those fiber pencils are fantastic, especially in small areas. This comment is bought to you by a "Old Train guy." PS....let's not forget "Old School Rock N Roll!" Have a wonderful day!!!

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Donald, Thanks for the nice words on my Vid. I'm "old school" also. "just take them old records off the shelf" :-)

Fantastic job on the clean up, and getting the loco up and running. You make it look easy! Keep on keepin 'em alive!

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Hey Ron love your show anyhow I've never bought a brand new train for engine bought some new rolling stock but never a brand new locomotive that I can remember and all the years I've been doing this and I'm 63 so I like to say love what you're doing is very entertaining The new stuff is great but taking that old stuff and bringing it back to life That's probably my favorite part of the hobby keep it going man

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Lawrence, thanks for your kind words, and a great story. :-)

Now that is a great looking locomotive. Thanks for sharing. As for the keeping it sealed . Heck no. Nice thought but hey it’s YOUR train . And you can run it if you want. Glad to see that running. Great content Ron!

@classicmodeltrains

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Steven👍

Great find love the old athearn blue box and older . Have a bunch of old trucks from the 60s and one 64 Nova

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Right on! I love the Old stuff also.

Just discovered your channel recently. And I have to say I don’t think there’s many channels out there that can make me binge watch your content. Your videos are great! They show stuff you don’t see to often. I love your passion for the hobby. Being a younger guy (in my 20’s) in the world of model trains is kind of a let down. I’m not so young as to not know what I’m doing but am also old enough to know we are few and far inbetween. And since being younger am looked at as a amateur. I paint model trains and do custom work on the side from my day job. As it’s a passion of mine and I have to admit haven’t been as good with the KZread thing as I’d have liked to. I plan to have a couple more things in the future just super hard to set aside that time to actually sit down and look at a fix on something. But keep it up! I am enjoying your channel, and as far as modern trains go, there’s a mix. I love me a old brass engine as I have a lot of them, but I also enjoy tinkering with the MDC roundhouse kits and engines as well as dressing up old blue box engines and kits and such.. Armchair modelers are everywhere. Your opinion and collection will vary from person to person. But know, as I am someone who doesn’t currently have a layout anymore, and has a small (once large) collection of Union Pacific steam era stuff that was sadly thinned out due to financial issues, your collection is amazing! Never feel like you have to modernize yourself to fit in. Collect what you love, and you’ll find others who are like-minded to yourself! Keep up the great work and I’ll continue to watch and support your channel!

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Good evening Marc, Thank you for your kind words in your comment. They really made my day, and helps a lot with my (currently) unpaid internship with Y.T. that people out there are binge watching my content. Comments with such positive statements helps me to see the light at the end of the 1K sub tunnel. Lets me know I'm producing interesting and entertaining content. It's unfortunate your being "looked down upon" due to your age. The local modelers here in my home town are mostly rivet counters and they constantly snub me because I'm not running the latest in DCC and $600 loco's. Thats the only real downside to this hobby, the 'Ol Boy's that have been doing it forever seem to forget they started somewhere, when they were younger, and didnt have nice stuff like today. So I guess in my rambling's don't let other negative Nick's in the hobby get to ya :-). To bad some of your collection had to be turned into $$$. hopefully you will get the collection back up to the proper size. You sound like a very passionate modeler and have a lot of knowledge on the subject for being in your twenties. Must have been reading up on stuff at a young age. It's good to hear that some younger people are interested in model railroading. Take care!! :-)

@_mdh_1998

2 жыл бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains thank you for your kind and supportive words. I do appreciate it and hope to get mmmm use my knowledge to help others out in the hobby. We are all one group of folks who want the same things, and that’s to enjoy it and run some trains. I think you are off to a great start. I have started with toys and when I got my first big engine, a UP Big Boy by Rivarossi, that was the start of my addiction and moving up into the big league of model railroading. And they only got better from there. You have nice vintage trains, from makers that don’t exist anymore. And I’ll have to say that’s something you don’t see taken so serious anymore. But like you mentioned, we all started somewhere. Humble beginnings as I say, and you definitely are on the “right track” to doing it (sorry for the bad pun, just had to…) Some of the most famous people on here started small. And sometimes it’s better to be a smaller channel. I wouldn’t see why KZread would want you as a creator. You have an excellent attitude, you have great content, and your examples are really well done and your videos are really inspirational to people that don’t know where to start. I have recommended a couple folks to your channel, and will continue to do so. I know a good person when I see one, and would definitely bet all my money you will get there one day. And don’t give up!

@Ozarktrains

6 ай бұрын

There is nothing more that can warm your heart than to see one of the old trains run again. What a sense of accomplishment and joy.

The reason it has No.3 on the smoke box front is that model is really a model of the 4-6-0 Sierra no.3 ten wheeler, the same loco that was featured in the 1960s TV show "Petticoat Junction" and a ton of other TV shows and movies. Mantua-Tyco just put in another pair of driving wheels to make it a 4-8-0 "Mastadon" almost without changing anything else-except for changing the stack from a wood burning ballon stack to a straight stove pipe stack that coal and oil burner uses; and the pilot from a fairly modern looking one to a classic triangle "cow catcher" type.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Arrow 1. I was just sitting here enjoying another wobble pop and comparing this loco to my 4-6-0 "1890's" and noticed their very similar. You have some great information, thank you for sharing it with me, and others who read thru all these comments. 🙂

Yes! As someone bore during the diesel era, I love early to contemporary trains. Steam, however, is iconic. I have recently purchased my 1st steamer. Not the 4449 I am wanting since I rode it back in 80 something from El Paso to Alpine. Both exciting and nostalgic. I will get on one of these days but am really avoiding the Bachmann/Lionel model due to numerous difficulties in manufacture as you commented on in one of your videos. A man has got to have purpose and this is mine. So Yes!

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Yup! Love steam as well. Glad you found out about the Bachmann/lionel HO ick before purchasing one.

I collect mostly O gauge Lionel some post war more MPC and some modern early to late TMCC but I also collect the older Athearn,B-man , life like but my favorite is TYCO thats what I had the most of as a kid I enjoy bring old wrecks back to life junk into runners just fun I enjoy your channel and what you bring to the table take care

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mike! Thanks for your kind words.

like you, i enjoy getting to older ones and running them. makes them even better if you have to fix them cause then you get to enjoy running them more cause it's something the helped bring back to life. great videos!

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Ya fix them and they mean that much more to ya. Thanks for the kind words on my video's :-)

Working on a Tyco collection during my lifetime from 1968-1993...25 years of Tyco.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Ive been working on a Tyco collection for the past 2 years. Attempting to get every loco they made from mid 50's up to the end. Seems to be over 300 of them if you want all the variations and road names.

A beautiful classic locomotive. They are rare as Tyco I understand only made them for 1976-77. The only other 4-8-0s I know of are brass. And very expensive. Enjoy it.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Nate! You are correct, 76-77 only :-)

My 1958 Tyco pacific and Baldwin Shark nose still run fine. They have been mine since they were new.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Great job on keeping them old classics running. Especially since childhood!! Thanks for the share Johnny J

I like the old ones too, I probably have 300 mu2 tyco engines, along with a few other brands, Great channel, just found it

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard! sounds like your collection is larger than mine!!

Glad to see it out of the box and running! Looks great on your layout. And I appreciate the "how to" on breaking an engine down and what to do to give it the TLC it needs to run again. Thanks!

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I'm an old train guy too! I collect mostly postwar Lionel with some prewar and mpc thrown in for good measure. Love your channel!!

@classicmodeltrains

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Roger!!

Old trains and wobbly pops guy! Good job on all you do! Ignore the hobby shop guys, they are probably youngsters.

@classicmodeltrains

9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Great video! - good job on the tune-up and filming/video editing. Yes, I too have gone to train stores and workers there are happy to see the old stuff get sold, but many don't seem very interested in talking about them. I am and will always be an old DC model train guy.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

RP Thanks for your nice words and comments! :-)

I'm an old-train guy. Also an old train-guy. So I guess that makes me an old, old-train guy. I'm going to look for those old-F3 videos you mentioned. I have some old white metal Varney F-3's to restore. It will be fun. Countless other old cast locomotive projects, too. Right now I'm working on some Hobbytown PA's.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Greetings, I hope you found the Varney F-3 vid's. There is 2 of them. They turned out real nice. I like working on the die-cast the best. They are built like tanks.

I used to buy the new stuff, but one day I got my hands on an Arnold Rapido 4-6-2. Ever since then I've been heavy into the antique N scale.

@classicmodeltrains

3 ай бұрын

Old is good in my book!

Old guy! I don't have a layout,but i like seeing all the old ones.

@classicmodeltrains

9 ай бұрын

Fun to reminisce sometimes :-)

Wow Ron! No hat! Kinda like Picard in the first season when he had hair. Glad you broke it free, cleaned it up and ran it. Trains are meant to run. And lucky you on your first brand new Tyco! -Old train guy. Still thinks he's 5.

@classicmodeltrains

2 ай бұрын

I must have been having a good hair day that day :-)

I was born in the early 1970's, so tyco,cox,mantua plus others have been my thing. I do like dcc alot but the older dc trains are my bag more over others.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, I hear ya Rebel!!

I'm also an old train enthusiast. Simply built and usually easily repaired.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

Loved the clean up of the Tyco ten wheeler. I have 2 of these: both run great. it's also the only way of getting that wheel arrangement outside of the brass models that I know of. It would be hard for me to open a factory sealed engine. Kudos to you!!!!!!!!!

@classicmodeltrains

6 ай бұрын

Thanks, Yes I hinged back and forth on opening package but these were made to run, not look at I figured :-)

@user-no2yb9qv9u

5 ай бұрын

That's fine!! When it's YOURS, you may play or you may just look at it.@@classicmodeltrains

For me, I love the durability and reliability of the old trains. Just got my second Varney F3 working today, pulling some metal passenger cars! I don't care too much for the modern plastic trains, they are too delicate and finicky, had nothing but problems with my two modern diesels, one of which died, for no apparent reason. Guess I'll have to rewire it.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello again Tim!! Thanks for your input. Got another vote for the older stuff!! :-)

Another GREAT video! Looking forward to your Varney episode! As for my train preferences, I’m an old train guy.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Smashing tyco collection, love from the uk 🇬🇧

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks John!

The construction of that loco is virtually identical to the Tyco Crescent limited Pacific I have. The tyco pacifics are all metal. Very heavy. Good puller. They use the classic spring loaded brush sets of the MU-2 motor and just like the MU-2, they are five pole. Not bad. The bottom plate, steam chest, front wheels, spacer, spring...all of it is the same on the pacific. Same construction. The binding is caused by two things. 1. One of these is that all the drive wheels on your model have flanges. The wheel base is too long for tight radius tracks. On the pacific loco they have the center pair of driving wheels with no flange. It helps. 2. The valve gear on tyco steam locos is notorious for binding. This is because of one point of mounting where the valve gear floats andcocks sideways and causes the drawbars to flex and misalign. I fixed it on my crescent by adding some glue at a specific point so the valve gear cannot misalign. Contact me if you want pictures.

@classicmodeltrains

6 ай бұрын

The rear set of drivers have no flange. The Mikados, Pacifics, Decapods, are all very similar. These have similar drive traits, but use a open frame motor than does not resemble a MU-2. Cool idea on the valve gear issues!!

The locomotive is essentially a rework of the 10 wheeler “Dixie Belle”. The boiler casting wasn’t changed when Tyco created this locomotive. The actual prototype is on the Sumpter Valley, and is quite a movie star, it has appeared in several movies as well as several tv shows. Most notably “ Petty Coat Junction” and I believe this is the locomotive used at the beginning of “Tales of Wells Fargo”. In “Petty Coat Junction” she appears with her combine and coach, which MDC Round House used as inspiration for series of 34’ “Overton” coaches. The locomotive (the 4-6-0) actually originally was owned by the ATSF, but had, I believe, binding issues on their rails. I couldn’t see, but if your locomotive has flanges on all axles, this could be causing the binding. If the two center axles had blind ( no flanges) this would reduce the binding. Real railroads did this for the same reason. I still love the old Tyco steam, wish they were still on the market. The actual D&RG locomotive was originally a class 60 consolation then reclassified as a C-16. This is a narrow gauge locomotive, not standard gauge. The “ bumblebee” paint scheme, featured here, was only used in the movie “Rio Grande” (This was a Hollywoodised version of the Royal Gorge War) on several locomotives, the only one to retain the colors was locomotive 278. It is still nice to see these old Tyco locomotives on the rails, it does a heart good, even though they aren’t exactly “ prototype”. If it weren’t for “modeler’s’ license” this hobby could be very boring. Keep up the good work.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Wow John! You have a lot of good information there.The 4th axle under the cab had blind wheels on it. Yup good ol #3. The locomotive movie star. Thanks for your support of my channel :-)

@johnbeck3270

Жыл бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains I looked at some photos of the 4-8-0 after receiving your reply, I don’t understand why Tyco put the blind drivers the last axil. If they would have put these at the no.3 position and put blind drivers on no.2, like the Round House “ Old Timer” consolidation, I think this would relieve the binding. I think your only choice, now, is to turn down the flanges on the wheels. If you could find an another blind axil, rep lace the flanged wheels with the blind ones. NWSL produced a quartering device that would help with the reassembly. The present arrangement will definitely bind on the tight curves Tharp we customarily use.

I like old trains and cars❤

@classicmodeltrains

8 ай бұрын

Me too!!

I do like the challenge of restoring old units, but a new one, that is special every time. Nice work on that steam loco.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks!

I am an old train "dc" kind of guy in fact I have several varney diecast locomotives. Once again I also want to say I enjoy your channel.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I have an old Varney F-3 A & B. both powered. going to be coming up in a future video.

Old trains take you back to your youth and you don't have to blow tons of money to have fun! Nice layout and locomotive 🚂

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree! Thanks

Love the video. Thanks. I like the old engines. I love to get an old engine that isn't running and fix it up. Then if it's possible I will rewire it to dcc. I get a certain satisfaction from taking a locomotive from old and broken to running well and as a dcc locomotive.

@classicmodeltrains

Ай бұрын

I like the way you think!

Cool Run♐👍

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks O gauge!

old trains have more character I really enjoy the when you work on old non runners and fix them to run

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

I agree on the old ones. It rewarding to bring history back to life.

I love old trains, grew up with Varney, Tyco Mantua and blue box Athearn. I pick up what others call junk and repair them to full service. Love your vids, very well done. I am working on repairs on 2 Tyco F7s. Love it.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your nice words on my Vids!! I like fixing up the "junk" also. But in my eye's..... there TREASURES. Remindes me of the "good 'Ol days". :-)

I like em all. That new/old model looks great on your display rack. I'm glad you freed it from it's nonsensical plastic prison. I hate the unopened box rules. I look forward to the next one, is that a big boy? Cool 😎

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mr. B! Yup its a Big Boy waiting it turn to get into the "shop". Thanks once again for your kind words :-)

I love the old trains as well. I’m new to whole model trains. I built a small train table for my boys for last Christmas.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Very cool! Thanks for commenting :-)

Ah....Somehow missed the last wheel being flange-less. The motor layout being angled vs horizontal is the main difference. The armature and brush assembly are virtually identical plus it's only using a worm on one end. Either way, when tuned up and if you swap the magnet for a neodymium they are very good pullers (not great crawlers). Crude but fun! Great channel!

@classicmodeltrains

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Jesse :-)

I find the spring belt drives in late ‘40s Varneys really charming for some reason. The remarkably diesel-like sound aside I admire the commitment to make absolutely everything out of metal - even the belt.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Ive only seen pictures of them Ol' Girls. Cant wait to get my hands on one. :-)

I enjoy the fun of bring old trains as close to new standards as I can. I'd be willing to bet every large layout roster has plenty of blue box/tyco/ bachmann toy sets in as filler. Look around for a 24v can motor for the old girl, the torque will override any binding and give ya a nice low speed to boot.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Patrick. Sounds like we both like working on the old stuff! I agree, everybody's layout has a few budget jobs hiding out. I think if this loco got some hours on it, it would probably loosen up a bit. I honestly never had my Hands on a new tyco. :-)

Another comment, I was curious, so I went “parts shopping” and came up with a couple of options for the drivers on eBay 1) there was an 0-8-0 frame that had the center drivers were blind. 2) there was also a 4-8-0 frame with all the drivers, # 4 axil is blind. I hope this will help with the binding and get your “ Mastodon” back on the rails with no binding. FYI the locomotive did exist, it was built by the Central Pacific.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing some researching for me. My new layout has larger radius' so I think the binding issue is gone :-)

My thoughts Ron I Love them All One Way Or Another.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds great :-)

Absolutely love your channel. I am both an old train and new train and everything train guy. Keep it rolling 👌🏻

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Another great tune up! I always find your content interesting..something I probably wouldn't dare, or have the patience to do. Great video Ron!👍👍💪

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Beautiful locomotive you got there Ron. I'm jealous. I appreciate you opening it and running it for us. keep up the good work! -Stan

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Stan :-)

That it that is a super find Ron yes and it is getting harder to find somebody that wants to talk old trains or old cars you're absolutely right I feel the DCCC has taken a lot of fun out of this Hobby

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Wayne, Thanks for your Nice words. I guess we will have to build a community of old train lovers and start our own conversations :-)

Embrace your haters! Most mouth pieces haven’t done crap! Great channel, great videos! Now I want that locomotive!

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Rick :-)

Lol I’m pretty sure that that train is very happy now. Being trapped in a box for 45 years waiting to be opened and run must’ve been really hard 😢

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Some of the collectors were a bit disappointed but there made to run! :-)

The work on an old Tyco/Mantua has really payed off. The improvements were great! I really liked the echo on the whistle, sounds like an old steamer running through the late night. Thanks for the story.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind words John. I put a lot of echo on the whistle to get it sounding like its in a canyon. :-)

I love it all. my favorite ara steam locomotives. So most preferred is old but some of the newer steamers are great too. love to get something old and get it running. Your how to videos are very informative and good for that. thank you for sharing.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for you kind words James! :-)

My newest locomotive Atherns from the 80"s , you got me going on the Mantua line I had some now a lot more

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

I love the older stuff myself, as I am a builder. Kits are almost non-existent in a modern hobby shop. I particularly enjoy the diecast kits from Tyco/Mantua and MDC/Roundhouse. But I do have to disagree with you on opening that sealed box. That's quite a rare find. The correct way to do it is to keep one sealed and then buy a second one to rebuild and run :) I also collect postwar Lionel so I have a soft spot for originality.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

I like the die cast stuff also. A few people have mentioned I should have bought another one to play with. I though this one was damaged inside the box. I was told from the seller it had been dropped. After opening it, I could find no flaws. If I though it was cherry cherry, I would have left in the box. Oh well..... Maybe next time :-)

Another great video! Personally, I’m more of a IHC, Riverossi, and PFM guy. I Model Great Northern and none of the modern retailers do Prototypical steam, closest one was a BLI model that I can’t afford.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind words. I've never heard of PFM, also I don't have enough $$ for BLI either, maybe someday :-)

Hell Yeah Old Trains for me!

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

Heck yah Buddy It's what we grew up with Yes I've got some "Newer" ut love my old Brass those Varney's are HEAVY. An the could pull think about upgrading F7 AB well see Great Content my friend!

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Hello Bernard, Thanks for commenting. I would love to see some old brass. Maybe one day I will have a few.

Awesome work as usual! I still have yet to find myself one of those 4-8-0s, they aren’t super common here in the eastern side of the US.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello again Dirty! Thanks for the nice words. I wish you good luck on your search for a 12 wheeler :-)

You’re a lucky man to have found that 12-wheeler new in the box. I’d have taken it out of the box even if the box was pristine. Collecting models without ever removing them from packaging just doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve vacillated about buying a Tyco 12-wheeler for some time now, but seeing your video today made up my mind- I’m looking for a 12-wheeler starting tomorrow! Now, the question about age of models. I like models made in the period 70’s thru 80’s. I prefer strictly dc because I have only a small space for my layout and don’t have any use for noisy dcc sound systems. I like quiet! The majority of my equipment is Athearn and Mantua, with scattering of the other manufacturers. My models represent from Promitory Point to about 1965. This gives me a nice assortment of steam and diesels without having the monster steamers and diesels that won’t or can’t run on a smaller layout. I thank you for asking and thank you for you videos as I am learning more about servicing my Tyco locos and returning them to service.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

13th, Thanks for you nice words and comments on the video! Good luck on your search for a nice 12 wheeler. We think the same on preferences of loco's. I'm modeling 1963 and back. :-)

Congratulations Ron: another job well done!

@regisbraga3833

2 жыл бұрын

The performance of this little 4-8-0 is quite impressive: a “new” old open frame motor drawing 0,2A at 5V is not so frequent. How about her pulling force at your 2% ramp?

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mister Regis!! :-)

@regisbraga3833

2 жыл бұрын

Good evening sir!

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

@@regisbraga3833 I had a very small load of cars on the loco. The drivers have 2 wheels that have traction tires on them, and they are surprisingly in great shape. I attempted to film a wheel slip as I usually do and I could not get the loco to slip. I'm assuming that it could pull a fair number of cars around. I keep forgetting to give these old girls a real workout. 😕

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

I should have used the word Señor 🙂

Im a old train guy Blue box Athern and Mantua GP 20 love that locomotive

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello William, Thanks for commenting. I like the older stuff too!! :-)

I like both old and new. Old trains are special though.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Old trains bring back rememberrys :-)

Very nice Ray Bobel sent me, liked and subbed.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

What a nice loco!! Had the 4-6-0 versions in my youth. Would love to get one of these 4-8-0s. Very cool! Green with envy now :). I’m old train guy! Easier on pocket book for my stripping and repainting. The motor restoration is a bonus for me as I did not think it would be so much fun just cleaning and getting old locos to run again. Take and all the best!

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

EC Idaho, Thanks for the kind words. :-)

@STho205

Жыл бұрын

It runs better as a 10 wheeler. It is the same model but with an extra driver axle. It was intended to replicate Sierra #3 Rogers 1890s which is the famous TV locomotive The Cannonball. 8 drivers tend to bind as all have flanges. The 4-6-0 arrangement just looks like a missing axle in the same frame. Great model along with the Tyco shorty combine coach to model Hooterville or Hill Valley 1885.

I love the old stuff.. especially the steam locos... hence why that is what I am collecting... A lot of the people on the local FB model train groups here in Melbourne Australia seem to only be interested in the new expensive stuff.. so im happy to keep the cheap old stuff for myself... lol.. I now buy second hand non working locos to do exactly like you do, refurbish and run the fun trains.. they can keep their sound DCC crap.. lol.... I am happy with my DC no sound fun. and for every one of their locos i can have 3 or so for me.. hahahaha.. well thats my way of thinking and it seems that way when I buy stuff on ebay or gumtree here in Australia... Keep up with the great videos.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I like the way you think Tim!!

Yo some of your comments are funny as all hell. Thanks for the video and a few laughs

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

I also like the old ones from the 60's and 70's. Besides, I really can't afford to convert to DCC. I would barely have any equipment at all if I did.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Hello Robert, I like the way you think!! :-)

I like old trains

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Me too!

i like the older stuff too personally. i got my first set when i was 3 and it was a life like royal castle 4-6-0 set and i love it still have it today among many others but i would say the newest engine i own is a proto 2000 gp 9 and the oldest i have is a tenshodo brass gp7 i like the features of dcc but i will most likely never swap over to it.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

First set at 3? pretty lucky youngster you were ;-) I have yet to acquire any brass. My oldest is a 1938 Gilbert HO Hudson. My newest is a Walthers Mainline GP9 DC only of course!!

I saw this video earlier today. Then went to a train shop that is a little far for me and found a used one with this same 4-8-0 wheel arrangement. I also have 4 of the original 4-6-0 versions. The prototype the the Sierra Railway number 3 (a 4-6-0 that is the most filmed in movies [High Noon, Unforgiven, and Back to the Future 3,...] and TV[Lone Ranger, Casey Jones, and Petticoat Junction...]). I believe This model is OO scale not HO. Since the motor used could not fit in a HO version. That is why it looks like a monster next to HO locomotives of the same era.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Happy Valley, Did you buy the one you found at the hobby shop? Ive had a few people tell me this loco is modeled after that 4-6-0 use in films and TV. pretty cool story :-)

@happyvalleyhobbies6070

2 жыл бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains Yes I did. Plus two 4-4-0s and three old time passenger cars (they came with the one 4-4-0 which sadly is missing the drive shaft.) I cleaned out his 19th century equipment. The locomotives that I am buying now is for mostly spare parts for the working fleet.

I love the old stuff too. Starting to collect Varney stuff. Selling off my Lionels except some of my older pieces to pay for vintage HO

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

C Campo Thanks for the info. I've got some varney that's coming up onto the repair block real soon. F-3 A and powered B unit. :-)

My Tyco 10 wheelers going around 18 radius curves also bound up and sometimes we would ride over the rail it's a very long wheelbase. I miss my old ho days. Back when you couldn't go wait to go to the Hobby Shop to get the new issue of Model Railroader or trains or railroad model Craftsman they were all great magazines. At 60 cents a piece I could get three of them for an hour's work now they're $8.99 so they're $27 for three of them. Sucks growing up what can I say.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Growing old aint what's its cracked up to be.

I understand about talking old trains at the hobby shop. When I was restoring a Tyco for my son I went in to find some replacement brushes and guy at the counter told me to pitch it and buy new. I don't go to that one anymore.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

A lot of closed minded people out there, quick with an insult on how others play with trains :-)

That is a great find! I get a great sense of satisfaction in getting an old Varney/Mantua/Tyco running again. The Mantua Shifter on my workbench right now still had the original paperwork in the box indicating that it was bought in kit form on March 22, 1960 when I was still in eighth grade. How neat is that?

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Hello J H Bruce, That's a great story with that shifter. I love when I get an auction box of stuff in and find old literature about the stuff in with the stuff. Knowing some back stories about the loco or car, make that piece much more meaningful to your collection. Thanks for commenting :-)

The BREAKHEART PASS music intensifies . . .

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Great reference there Bermuda! Thanks for commenting :-)

I'm oldschool. My dream layout is going to be based off the broadway limited and DC, atlas selectors and all.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Old School 4Eva!

I love it

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

:-)

Wow that is hilarious about the other guys not being able to relate on the old trains. I guess everybody has their own take on the hobby.

@classicmodeltrains

Жыл бұрын

Hello Rudy! Yup some people think if it's old it's no good. That's fine. Keeps used loco prices down :-)

One thing you can do to get it to perform better is to swap the magnet out for neodymium magnets from home depot. They greatly reduces amperage draw and increase torque substantially. I had to do it to my mom's ten wheeler just to make hers run again, the magnet was totally dead.

@classicmodeltrains

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good idea's Patrick :-)

@suppylarue220

2 жыл бұрын

the question is, how will you find one that fits? there are re magnetizers that take the whole original motor intact and make it like new.

@patrickwamsley3284

2 жыл бұрын

@@suppylarue220 The magnets I got are thin disk style. Standard tyco motors take four of them and Pittman DC71s take five. I've heard some say it's best to not have a gap and to make a shim for any gaps but I've had no difference between the performance with or without a shim.