A great video to say the least, however I feel some extra notes are warranted. There was a car the Santa Fe painted up into their Blue Goose livery, that being their only Pendulum car, which has similar tilting train tech to that of an Amtrak Talgo trainset. Another thing is the "Chief" and "Super Chief" passenger trains were actually two different trains that the Santa Fe ran. And one last thing is that the model is somewhat inaccurate, due to being based on the NYC Dreyfuss Hudson, leading to things like the coal tender on an oil burning engine. All said and done though, this was a splendid video and really good for some of us who may look into getting one at some point.

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

I think during my research that 2 cars were painted to match but it was a hit and miss. could not get more than one story on it so I didnt pursue it. I did reference that the chief and super chief were two different names of specific trains. Perhaps I did not do a very good job. I did wonder why I read they were oil burners and this tender was a coal hauler. Your information is good to me. The Goose had a bulge on the fireman side of the front of the boiler to accommodate the raising of the smoke stack. I did read about that. I enjoy others passing along there information, thank you for taking the time to type it out :-)

This is a nice look at the red box series. As far as the Santa Fe Super Chief, Amtrak took over on May 1, 1971, but I think the train was combined with the El Capitan around 1968. During this time, I'm not sure if the Santa Fe held on to the Super Chief name for the combined trains, but they were particular about Amtrak using the name and how the train operated. Amtrak decided to rename the train to the Southwest Chief to get away from the Santa Fe influence in order to operate the train in Amtrak's standards.

@casstelles

11 ай бұрын

Here's the Wiki article to better understand the whole name change. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Chief

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

I read Amtrak licensed the name "super chief" for awhile. Then Santa Fe pulled the license because Amtrak was in poor state of disrepair. Once Amtrak cleaned up their image and equipment the license was re-instated.

For the last 30 years, I've wanted one of these, but just not in "my" budget. Cool video.

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

30 years? I'm surprised you have not found one that fits your budget yet. The way you get around supporting this hobby :-)

Ron, I watch your videos not only to see what's up in train country but to hear a bit of humor.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much :-)

Hi Ron! Very nice video my Friend! In Spanish you pronounce “La Hunta”, H as in hotel; means “The Junction” in Shakesperian😊… The motor is a nice 180. Your Little Beauty is a really nice locomotive: my compliments!

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Greetings Regis my Friend!! I used the google speech to help me out with the pronunciation and by the time I shot that scene I forgot. Makes since "the Junction". Yes this is one of the nicest I have, and it does life as a box queen. Probably be up on the next auctions I have.

I particularly enjoyed this video because I have almost the same locomotive but in the NYC Streamlined Dreyfus version. The chassis looks just like yours, motor and all. I know it looks simple inside, and as long as everything works, it is simple. But if you ever have to dig deep, OMG! I still don't know what happened to mine before I got it. It ran well at first, then would fail to stay engaged in gear. I tore it apart - completely apart - more than 10 years ago. Every few years I pull it out, fight with it for a while and put it back for another few years. After many failures, I finally decided that I can not repair the original motor/gear mechanism, so I am down to 2 choices: replace the entire chassis with one I got on ebay and repaint the drivers and cylinders OR pull off one of the drivers on the original chassis and install an NWSL drive that I I also have. The tender on mine is cemented in place with pillars that go from frame to the top inside of the tender body. I was afraid it would break if I tried too hard to separate the parts. I am envious of yours that comes apart with just a screw. The instructions in mine are dated 1995; I guess they smartened up about the tender over the next 3 years. A few months ago, I learned that Rivarossi had a lot of problems with that locomotive; I think one was motors burning out. Hornby bought out Rivarossi and doesn't even stock replacement parts. BTW there is an idler gear between the worm and the drive gear. Just more adventures in model railroading!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear yours is giving you troubles. Sounds like you have many options to get it back on the road. I would try the NWSL route. Perhaps better engineered than the original? Yeah I noticed the stacked brass gears during the tear down. I neglected to mention it clearly. Thanks for the great information :-)

Super. My railroad has seven different coupler conversion cars, which cover for the nine different types of couplers in use, and I bet the Maerklin Relex or the Mantua loop cars would couple right to that locomotive. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Hello Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. Didnt even think there were 7 different styles of couplers out there. Thanks for the cool information.

I have a red box Challenger by Rivarossi that I bought new, and absolutely love! Thanks for the service tips on this one!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting David :-)

Hi old timer! Been a while since I browsed your channel. I hope you remember me. I just got out of Basic Combat Training and just got my phone privileges back. Nice to be able to watch your videos once again! 😌

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Hello Slinger!! Congrats on completing Basic training. I did my time back in the early 90's. Ft. Leonard Wood. Thanks for coming back to the channel!!

My favorite rebuilds are when you do the Rivarossis..👍👍 nice job..I'm voting for one of the Rivarossi articulates with the flywheel motor at some point to go threw... Not incredibly difficult, just a bit more gearing here and there..

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

I like the Riv's a lot also. I don't think I have one new enough to have a flywheel in it yet.

You gave me the courage to open my NYC 2328 up. It was converted to DCC with a QSI decoder. It is frustrating though. It stops and starts. Clearly not getting consistent juice. I ordered one of those fiberglass pens and I am going to go through all the pickups and wheels and everything to try to get this going. I can flip it over and connect the track wires to the pickup wire and it runs fine so I know the intermittency is being caused by the pickups. Probably could use a better keep alive too. See how it goes and report back to the Station Master! Thanks for a great video and great humor.

@classicmodeltrains

23 күн бұрын

Glad to help you out Paul

Very cool little engine . Thanks for the great videos , I learn something new from every one I watch .

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Magnificent video and well presented as always. You continue to shine. Thank you for everything you do Ron. Have a wonderful day!!!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thank you Donald for your kind words!!

Beautiful locomotive, always loved the blue Goose

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Thanks. They sure do look dirty in real life.

Fantastic looking locomotive. Thanks for sharing.

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching John!!

Thank You 😊 Ron!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

You are an incredible restorer

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much :-)

Great video Ron!! Take care!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thank you Erick!! Same to you Sir :-)

That's one beautiful loco the Santa Fe 4-6-4 'Blue Goose' You've done a great job 👍

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

Great video.

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks

Thank you for sharing.👍

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thank you too for your support :-)

Another great video Ron. I have thought about buying one of those engines but I never pulled the trigger. Maybe one day? I think they are really good looking.

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Dennis. A lot of people enjoy it's lines.

That is one really nice looking locomotive Ron!

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Thank you Mark!

Only Rivarossi items I have are 4 coaches with the Southern Crescent livery. They are not illuminated but that will change very soon. I have my ESU current collectors, part #50707, now and I'm ready to do it. I've already changed out the talgo trucks to body mounted Kaydee couplers with metal wheel sets. I'll be using LED strips with a full wave bridge rectifier with a 3300uF capacitor. I sometimes am hesitant about weathering a brand new locomotive, but it HAS to be done. Cheers from eastern TN

@classicmodeltrains

7 ай бұрын

Hope you have very large radius curves for them body mount couplers.

She sure is purty! Nice score!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Jason :-)

I have the same train in my collection I also have the Lehigh valley but the blue goose is one of my favorite awesome video!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

Keep up the great work

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Thanks - Ron. I have the Rivarossi "John Wilkes" (LVRR) set, probably same engine - same era 1998ish. She could use some Super Lube, and a drinky drink of oil. Just got all my synthetic grease and oil from Amazon ... I am ready to rock. Thanks for all your shared knowledge. I watched all your videos, now get back to work !! BTW - enjoyed them all !

@classicmodeltrains

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like your all set up for some loco rehab!!

Great video! Thanks! I´ve one of these runners but with the old motor (in the cab) as same as my Espee Cab Forward. I´ve digitalized my CF and it runs ok!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching :-)

👍 great video, thank you

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Jack

Another great tutorial Ron. Just fixed up a Rivarossi french pacific that i picked up super cheap because of a quartering issue. Ran like a bag of spanners, but now runs like a sewing machine.... that needs an overhaul!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

I love the broken and cheap ones!!

She's a beauty!

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

Great video Ron! Very nice looking steamer. I lost it when you said "that's a real pisser". LOL

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Stan! Guess I missed that in editing :-/

@VintageRoadRail

10 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains Glad you did, that was gold. Lol

I learned something new!

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Me Too!! every time I make a video :-)

I think it would be cool if 3463 got restored to operational condition and if it got the blue goose style streamlining.

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

That would be a great sight :-)

@RocketStephen618

10 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains Fun fact, the center driver set on 3463 is from 3460!

I have that loco and the matching coaches, bought the last new one my local hobby store had about 10 years ago

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

right on!!

Het there Ron. Yea, you did get to figure out those blessed sprung contacts, that contact the driver backs. Rivarossi used that system on a lot of their steamers. Would have been a pretty good system, if only the springs insde those contacts, didnt break.I dont think those contacts are very DCC friendly, as the higher voltage of DCC, tends to melt the aprings, inside those contacts. Leaving you "up the creak", trying to get the loco to pickup current.If only one could get spare parts.....oh well.. Lovn the maintenance videos, Ron. Cheers Michael NZ

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Hello Michael, Bummer to hear them pickups loose their spring tension. kinda takes the loco off line real fast

Ok... a guy has seen a few more videos than a few.. i had to do it.. yup i subscribed! I have to be part of the fun. 😊

@classicmodeltrains

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for jumping in all the way AKRR!! I'm quite happy I earned your Sub Sir!!

Just pulled mine out and it has a round sagami can motor and flywheel in the back of the motor and it was made in 1994 they must have changed them in later production

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

gotcha. Better made back in the day?

Thanks for the video< I have one myself

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@billfusionenterprise

10 ай бұрын

velcome@@classicmodeltrains

It has a sagami can motor and flywheel drive i have the nyc hudson like that it runs great

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

This does not have a flywheel in it. I'm pretty impressed with the efficiency of that can motor for sure.

I’m from Kansas so I can go see the last Santa Fe Hudson in existence.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Right on!!

Fun fact: Volvo was founded by SKF. Volvo is Latin for “I roll.”

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

I did not know that. Thanks for the fun fact!!

@gkjsooley

10 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome. Love your videos.

Now you have another rivarossi besides the Era I Italian Passenger train

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Yup. I Think I have only 4 Rivarossi loco's counting this one.

I got the same one it came in the blue box never touched until I took it out to see if it was going to run

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Wonder if the Blue Box has the old style motor with the brush holders sticking out of the back of the cab?

Great video! Ron I am going to be in Bozeman in a few days, are there any hobby stores you would recommend?

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Hello Gary, I do not believe Bozeman has any Hobby shops. I could be wrong but I never hear about it if it does. Guy's from the Livingston club (25 miles east of Bozeman) come to Billings to shop.

Now, nobody wants to go to Chicago.

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

I LOL when I read this. sad that your statement is true.

@markwilliams2620

11 ай бұрын

Um, only if you get your information from Fox "News". Otherwise, its fine. Museums are still great. Taste of Chicago is a blast. Staying a few nights downtown, taking the METRA to Antioch and an Uber to the Illinois Railway Museum. Then again, I'm from Detroit so I know a thing about ill informed people talking smack about a city.

@craigleemehan

10 ай бұрын

​@markwilliams2620 Um, it depends on what part. Around the miracle mile, great. I was there on some business, not the nice part. Traffic horrible, parking horrible, streets and sidewalks, horrible. Of course, homeless everywhere.

yeah, you just had to take it apart . turn'n & twist'n at night think'n about it. break'n out in a cold sweat, eyes wide open, shallow breathing and clinched fists.

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

It's like were brothers. I had to know what makes it tick :-)

Hey Ron, you forgot about this weeks classic model!!

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Oops, Sorry..... Sometimes I think the video is a bit talky, so some things I will cut out. I'm my own worst critic.

La-HUN-ta or La-HOON-ta, Colorado. County seat of Otero County in SE Colorado. A stop on the old ATSF Chiefs and crew change point on today's Amtrak Southwest Chief. Lots of train watching. BNSF Powder River coal trains go through many tims a day.

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the pronunciation help :-)

Fun video Ron! Love that loco, after a good break in it will quiet down a lot. Have you tried HL #657 grease ? Works like nothing else! Stash, lol😂

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Rick. Never tried #567. I have a lot of super lube to go thru first. I suppose some run in time will quiet the gears up a bit....Yup!!

This could be a later Rivarossi model judging by the can motor

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Yup. I agree

I like the Rivs of this era, but the Milwaukee Road F6 I see goes for $500. YOWSA! Ican get brass for near the same price. Hope you gotta deal. I did pick up a MILW Bicentennial SD40-2 from your former hobby employer a month back. Small world.

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

This is my first Red Box Riv. So far I cant complain about them.

You're right. Riverrossi doesn't want one to disassemble their locomotives. Leave it to the Italians to manufacture a "bowl of spaghetti " with wheels.🧐😀🤔

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

:-)

@regisbraga3833

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Ron, I believe you've got too many locomotives in stock. I have storage space here for that Rivarossi😋

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Will you keep it in a climate controlled, minimal humidity, dust free environment Doug? Cause that would be 10 times better than being here :-)

@4everdc302

11 ай бұрын

Lol. No worries. It's in a good place😊

Nice nice baby

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Norman!

Hey Ron, do you repair Bachmann on30 porter??

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

I have never came across any on30 stuff yet.

What a great detailed video, loved to see you give new life to this locomotive. Keep up the good work! 👏

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

Yours is a little different then mine wow

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Ahh, So I'm guessing yours has a flywheel? Dang it!! Now I want a flywheel version!!

That rivarossi is basically the same as the older one bit has newer motor and different tranny

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Yup. A little less power hungry :-)

similar to the Queen of steam 611

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Never heard of that. Will have to look it up :-)

Actually 2 santa fe Huston 3450 is the rail giants mesuem and 3463 is at a park

@classicmodeltrains

12 күн бұрын

Thanks for the information!

@440camelback6

5 күн бұрын

Np ​@@classicmodeltrains

also you think this can be dcc'd?

@classicmodeltrains

8 ай бұрын

I am planning on DCC w/ sound upgrade soon. video to follow :-)

I have this engine. It has started acting up so maybe this will tell me why

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

Hopefully this video can help

I am getting one what do I need to buy to drive it

@classicmodeltrains

8 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what you are asking. do you mean make it run on the track? This one is DC so any DC H.O. transformer will work.

how much room for weight do you think is in there?

@classicmodeltrains

8 ай бұрын

I think it has sufficient weight. cant really remember if there's room for more

@TheStarforce2

8 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains i have 2% and it struggles a but on its 8 car consist but just gently resting a finger on it makes it go so i am think 2-3 oz tungsten will do it. Maybe, when you dcc, you can revisit the weight issue, even if you dont want to install any yourself.

Ron the pronunciation of the word la-junta you're not only supposed to pronounce the replace “J” with an “H” sound, but stretch out the U sound as well into more of an “Oo” sound. see (yes ) i live in Colorado . and I'm from Ceavland Oh names like john is pronounce as wohn hear!

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

I practiced trying to say that. I chocked under the pressure :-)

@mattomon1045

11 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains I have been in colorado ,for 50 years . and i still have trubble saying some words!

ron try it out first buddy you might be suprised

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

This was tried out at the hobby shop when I bought it. It needed a few pushes to get it to run down the track. Probably would have came around alright but I wanted to see what's inside :-)

@Gregtrainmaster

10 ай бұрын

sorry should have thought of that all shops have a test track hadnt had coffe yet@@classicmodeltrains

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

@@Gregtrainmaster I'm no good until my 4th cup myself 😀

I’m surprised that locomotive is as simple as it is. Not much different than a Tyco.

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

Thats kinda what I was thinking.

Never been " run". FWIW Cool find. 👍

@classicmodeltrains

11 ай бұрын

I got poor grades back in English class ;-D

12:36 Did you notice the zip-lock bag, right under your nose!? ⁉

@FourDollaRacing

11 ай бұрын

20:47 apparently, so.... 🤷‍♂

@classicmodeltrains

10 ай бұрын

I looked right past it many times.