Hey there! While listening to your 'all videos' playlist, I was watching this one for like the 10th time, and just caught your comment 'remember what we used to call the diagonal cutters?". Wow that was funny. I sure do! A little story, the first dikes I ever got were little Weller-Xcelite for electronics in 1977 for six dollars. A friend said they were the best. Wow I thought, that was a rip off. But he was right. They still work today, and the spring still works. Can't say that about MANY others I got. Thanks for the funny!!

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for the super thanks!! Just sitting down to play catch up on all the comments. I wish I still had a quality tool from 1977. That must be a real good set of Dikes for sure!!

You're like a mad scientist trying to labor over something the rest of us would have given up on. Always a pleasure watching you work to save those special locomotives Ron.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thank you Norm :-)

I am so glad I'm not the only one that spent Super Bowl Sunday in the train room

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Yup! Theres a few who dont partake in that ritual :-)

ron its locos like this is the reason alot of people stayed away from ho trains

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

You make a good point Greg, but the gears were not cracked when new. It takes years for this to happen. and on the flip side, it's inexpensive sets like these that got many young kids into model trains :-)

The hardest part.do not lose the springs u won't find them!Great Vid Ron u are the man!!

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Christopher

@modelrailpreservation

5 ай бұрын

Do what I did. Grow a mountain man style beard (Few more years the way I've been going it will be more a Santa Claus beard!), keep a comb on your workbench. I lost count of how many tiny springs, motor brush springs, Kadee springs, and so on, I've had get caught in my beard.

I had so many of those go bad on me over the years, even after proper maintenance . I couldn't find the right gears to replace and got fed up. I ended up going to Northwest Shortline and re-powered them all with their Stanton self motorized trucks. They work great now, so no more problems.

@UrMomsChauffer

5 ай бұрын

Holy smokes!!! I just looked at their pricing. $100 for one powered truck?! $50 for unpowered?! At that point, why not just buy new models? Not a criticism, just a genuine question. I am in a similar boat and looking for options, but this seems pricey.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Oh WOW!! Didnt know NWSL had a replacement power truck. Gunna have to look into that, THANKS!!

@larrydee8859

4 ай бұрын

I've experienced a similar situation, converting about 16, Bachmann pancake motored 1990 trolleys, for use in other Subway cars.... It was a long hideous process, with many gears that were slipping on the axles. On top of that I needed to insulate the motors to use DCC Decoders.... Yes good news regarding other drive units.... Tenshendo makes similar, compact powered trucks, almost exactly like NWSL, but much much cheaper. You would need to order from them directly. When my pancake powered units, start to go south, I'll power them with these new Tenshendo units, that have a similar wheelbase size.

These are tough to repair…unless you have a video like this one to refer to! Thanks for selecting this motor overhaul! 🚂

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Glad to help

I love listening to you talk, the white classic drop mat makes it easier to see you operating on hard to work on models much better than a dark mat like I've seen

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thank you Cuda, A few Fellers mention my voice as pleasant. To me I sound like Gilbert Godfry back in the old days :-)

I took you a year to produce, and me two days to watch it in entirety. Excellent fix!

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks John

Great video Ron. Mara Corday. 1957 movie the black scorpion

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Nice job Norman! 2nd Feller to guess her correctly

@normancoreyBuildingTrains

5 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains I watch old movies love the black and whites

The best thing these pancake systems are good for is kit-bashing two of them together to make one all-wheel pickup lighted dummy. Works in DC and DCC, and as a bonus, I sometimes have used them as converters with a horn-hook coupler on one side and a knuckle couple on the other side. (edited to include that it's a "lighted" dummy)

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Yup!

@danielkrasman5423

5 ай бұрын

I wired two FP40s together back to back to make them 4 wheel pick-up too. Still works after 5 years😀

I have a Bachmann GP40, same motor, same cracked gears. Was wondering about how to go about fixing it. You gave me a couple ideas. Thanks so much… Good show by the way…

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Glad I could help

Greetings Ron. I really hate these pancake engines. For the most part, I change all mechanics or convert to dummy locos. Another great video. Congratulations.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks

Hey there, thanks for another great video. I’m glad I’m not the only one to shelf a project for a year or two.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Silver T. Yup....I got tired of looking at it and apparently loosing parts for it :-)

Thank you for sharing.👍

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Great video and insight as always. I’ve learned a lot from watching your videos over the last few months. I only got back into the hobby in November. Thanks for sharing your ingenuity.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thank you David. Glad to see you back in the hobby

Thanks for all your great work, working with these Bachmann pancake Motor units! One year ago, I unpacked 16, 1990s era trolleys, with pancake motors. This with the idea of powering, my 50 year old subway cars Through the long hideous, miserable process, with slipping gears, and then trying to convert them to DCC by insulating the metal motor housings. I re powered about 12 subway cars. Leaving a few Bachmann spare pancake motors. New good news though... Tenshendo makes powered trucks of various sizes, very similar to NWSL, but much cheaper. I'll be using, and modifying them, to replace the pancake drives. Thanks again for your excellent video!

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Wow Larry! Sounds like you know how to do some cool fabrication there :-)

@larrydee8859

3 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains Yeah Ron; I did not know what I was getting into originally, with these pancake motors. It took several months of concentration, to both convert, and get up and running decently, on DCC. Repairing many slipping gears, and insulating the motor, in the process. As always; Great videos Ron!

Another very informative vlog Ron, you are a great resource for the hobby, always interesting and fun, you always make my day, and Im sure many others feel the same. A very nice man in a very nice hobby! Thanks as always, regards, Joe

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much Joe for that nice compliment!

Great video Ron. I like how you thought about the next guy (glue). Thank You

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Hi Ron. Thanks for the info. I have a few of these to work on, now I know what to look for. Good video, working on an Army set today, wish me luck...lol. Cheers

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Good luck on your army set!!

Rock Island did field some U33Bs in their "Bankruptcy Blue" livery. They had the AAR pattern trucks rather than the bloomberg style on the Bachmann models. "Bankruptcy Blue" is my third favorite railway livery, right behind BC Rail's Two-tone green and Great Northern's "Big Sky Blue" livery.

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

This blue reminds me of the powder blue tuxedos from the 70's

Your 40 years to late for me. I gave up on Bachmann along time ago. However, I'm glad to see you making an effort to fix thes beast. The best to you. BarstowRick Out.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Rick!

The first HO train set that I got when I was 7 years old came with a Bachman F7 with the pancake motor. I usually dislike Bachmann pancake motors, and usually convert engines that are equipped with them into static scenery items or dummy units, but by some stroke of luck, that engine ran smoothly for my entire childhood, and I believe the chassis and motor are still in my parts bin, with the motor still functional.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Nice to hear you had a good one that didnt let you down :-)

Thank you Ron for another excellent video on repair and maintenance of model trains. I avoid the pancake drive types when possible yet some have found their way into the collection over the years. I intend to reference your video as my guide for disassembly and repair of those that have the tell tale click. Your channel is a inspiration for those who would otherwise shun the train set type locomotives. There is hope that even they can be brought back to mainline service. .....and yes, I spent my Sunday Night lubing Roco or Athearn mechanisms and running double headers on the 4x8 in the basement. Please keep on making these videos. Best wishes, George

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks George. I'm finding out a lot of us were in the train room on Sunday :-)

I have a Life-Like and a Bachmann pancake motor. Great video, now I can fix them up.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Right on

Cool repair! I’m not sure when it happened. But I heard Bachmann and lifelike came out of the same factory in China. That might explain why the motors look so similar. I unfortunately watched the FB game. Cause there wasn’t a new model train repair video for Sunday.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I think I heard that as well but you know how rumors are.

Another great rebuild. Those pancake motors are a pain in the ***. Almost every one that I have owned ends up burning up the armature. Good to see you getting these running again.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks John 👍

I have 3 bachmann Shays and all now have split gears. I have two f units that I made into twin power truck locomotives. Those still have good gears.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

a 50/50 mix of good and bad.

Now I can dig into my 4 Bachmann F7/F9 that don't run, and get my 2 that barely run, to run better! I do have ONE that actually works great! I also have an F40PH (I think!) Bachmann Amtrak that runs but needs new traction bands. Yup, even my good working F9 will only pull 6 or so cars, without doing burnouts lol

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

New traction tires can be found on the eBay

Great video Mr . Ron . I have an old Life-Like 4-6 2 steamer that still runs great . But i'm not doing to good at guessing the classic models : ( I had guessed Groucho Marx dang it !

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks. The steamers have lots better drive gears in them.

@roccodirico9737

5 ай бұрын

I guessed Gummo Marx. I was WAY OFF.

Excellent repair video, Ron! I think EVERY HO gauge hobbyist owns at least one Tyco Loco requiring a complete teardown as described in this video! Please keep up the fine work! 🚂

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Joseph

Great job and awesome information about how similar both manufacturers really are and I also have lots of the Bachman locos with those annoying tics it’s such a shame they made them so inferior like that.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks. Yes it is too bad Bachmann gears are so brittle.

Great vid right to the end.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Patrick

I like the Athearn blue box engines. They are easier to work on and more durable. They don't need any sound decoder either as their gears make more than enough noise on their own. Interesting repair.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Yes the BB are a lot nicer product for sure

I’ve been collecting both Bachmann and Life-Like pancake motors for a while. I’ve resurrected a few Bachmanns by manually boring the Life-Like gears out. Still working on a better way to do it. For my next project, I’m going to Frankenstein two motors on one chassis!

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Very cool!

Good episode Ron🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲🙋

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thank you

Thank you for sharing your techniques! I shared with the Nscale Highrail group that focuses on getting older nscale to run, many have pancake motors in them! Smaller of course but hoping the principles are the same.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

N scale high rail? whats that? the old stuff with the large wheel flanges?

Very good job on fixing that loco! I have the same loco but the shell on it is not in the best condition an the gears on it looked pretty good and thats cool that you put a life like motor into the bachmann one.

@christopherdelgaudio9484

5 ай бұрын

The motors are basically the same matt.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks

@MattKonsol

5 ай бұрын

@@christopherdelgaudio9484 yeah I know and @classicmodeltrains anytime!

Another great video Ron! I have avoided HO Bachmann locomotives and only have two I think one Prairie steam loco and an old metal frame F Unit. I do have a number of Bachmann N scale F units and they suffer from broken gearing. Bachmann USA sucks will not by anymore. British Bachmann seems to have avoided the gear issues.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Yup! Dang them Bachmann executives from the 80's

Great video as usual, always learning new stuff! Btw, when are you doing a video review of your shelves? They look great and I’m sure I could learn something before trying to mount some myself!

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Thank you and I have a video on how to make them shelves. Heres the link. kzread.info/dash/bejne/anp6pNhxl6rbh5c.html

Holy crap!!! Who knew??? Great video and happy birthday a year ago, at some point😂 Hey, I dated Mara Corday at a USO thingy years ago, NOT 😂 You real are great, gotta love this stuff. Thanks, Ron

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thank you Ron!

Hi Ron, great video. If you have one good idler gear you can just leave the other one out but make sure you put two wheels with traction tires on the axel side with the good one. It pulls great and sounds great. Don’t lose that good idler gear because they are rare as hen’s teeth.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks. Im gunna guard that good idler real good. Maybe some day I will find another one :-)

We have the same motors in our Palitoy/Mainline diesels. Cracked gears-a-go-go! The Amazon have packets of random, plastic gears, cheap, for modelling. Two packs got me enough to fix a "Warship" class 42. So far, no issues. Classic vid Ron! Keep 'em comin'.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@smithge4uk

4 ай бұрын

They were all made by Kader in Hong Kong with appropriate branding, hence the mechanical identical-ness. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kader_Group

The guy in Canada who bought your Rock Island caboose might be the same guy who bought my Rock Island gondola and crane & tender. He's somewhere in Ontario. He's deep into Rock Island rolling stock.

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

His name is Stu.

Hello Ron I hope the stuff I sent you made it in one peace and I hope you can enjoy it you make great videos and I try to watch them all thanks 👍

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Hello Charlie, Yes it did. You did not leave me a return address or a way to get ahold of you. I'm glad you reached out here. Remember you can go into the description of all my video's and find all my contact information. That brass Tenshodo was quite the surprise!!

@charliestrainset-wx6zz

5 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains sorry about that next time I'll remember to do that. Glad you can enjoy them 👍

This is just fantastic and so useful Ron. It is a shame the pancake motor was so poorly presented to North American modellers as when done correctly they can achieve an amazing performance. Fleischmann's one was the best HO drive worldwide for decades until Kato motors came along.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I would love to run into a Fleischmann's or Kato power truck. I bet they are real nice.

@ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains

5 ай бұрын

The Fleischmann one even had an automatic oiling feature built into it. @@classicmodeltrains

@sort187

5 ай бұрын

Years back I called and complained (when you could still do that) to someone at Bachmann about those pancake motors being junk... the lady I talked to sounded kind of mad and said "Well, if properly maintained, they should work just fiine!" Oh, really?😂😂😂

This reminds me of watch repair..lol..but still very informative!…enjoyed watching as always

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Thomas

What Id love to see, and if youve got a hankering for it, would be rebuilding the pancake motor/drive in a an old Bachmann 4-8-4 steam locomotive. I have a couple of the J-Class Norfolk and Western streamline 4-8-4s (both numbered 611) that are almost hopelessly gacked. I know they have the geared split axles (which are broken) and I'm pretty sure two of the motors were smoked like cheap cigars.... now, I can find 3D printed gears and axle centers, but the motors are mounted in such a way that Im afraid I'd break the housing trying to get them out of the frame., If I could watch someone that knew what they were doing take a crack at it, I might be inspired to give it a whirl myself!

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Oddly I have one of those on it’s way to me for repairs and a video production. 3 weeks to a month there should be a video out on it.

@sort187

5 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains can't wait!

I got me a fiberglass pencil, some Superlube and conducting grease...I'm all ready to repair engines!

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Right on :-)

Congratulations my friend for your skills and unlimited patience! How do you ruin a beautiful locomotive? Put a Chinese pancake motor on her!

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Thank you my friend :-)

You really worked hard to get that locomotive to run. I would have enjoyed it, if it weren't for foul language! lol. It was another fine video. Thanks Ron.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks

Good one Ron…I’m actually familiar with the pancake motors from working on the Aurora slot cars. Looks like the same setup.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thank you and yeah there very similar for sure.

These old Bachmann, TYCO, and Life Like style engines make great yard switchers for the modern era, because that's what most railroads use these older locos for now, and they don't need to pull a lot to do that.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Sounds like a good idea to me :-)

Tinkering with these junk piles can be fun I suppose but you can’t make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. Nice video enjoyed it thanks !

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Ive been hearing that phrase quite a bit on this video :-)

Great job on that fix. I thought maybe you would have changed out the cracked gears with some kinda 3D printed ones. Cheers from eastern TN

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks. I dont trust 3D printed gears

Hi Ron the British rail class 42 warship diesel and the class 45 diesel from mainline have the same motor and there is a seller on eBay that makes 3D printed replacement gear's for these motors and Peter's spares in the UK makes replacement motor brushes for these as well, and a good video Ron

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the good info Kevin!

Comment time: Good to see you could remove the cover from the bottom of the trucks. Don't know how many of those I've broken. The broken gear is a Curse from the Train Gods, Just found one on an axel/gear. When I removed the wheel and axel assembly, gear came out in two pieces. Was thinking during your video (yes, I think sometimes) You should have a fair supply of parts. It is interesting how so many trains and parts are similar, but different. Could be attributed to better engineering or Patents. F unites, so many and have you ever noticed. If there is a sign directing you to a Train Station, they use a silhouette of the front of a F unite. Thanks for the Video, you made my day. (I skipped the Super Bowl too)

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Hello Lynn, Ive never noticed signs pointing to a train station. Probably because we dont have one here anymore but I will keep my eye out for them now. Parts are fun. Only down side about having them is if they are not properly stored and marked it becomes very hard to put them back to work.

I've consider using MEK solvent and a small clamp to close up the gear, but I haven't ever had the time to try it. The theory behind the MEK solvent would be to melt the gear back together due to the plastic composition. The gears are usually made of nylon or a slippery engineering plastic in which regular CA has a hard time binding to the plastic due to the smooth surface. This is the reason on trying a method of MEK solvent to melt the plastic back together. Also, if you ever tried to repair plastic handrails of certain manufactures, you may run into this problem of the plastic being a slippery engineering plastic which CA doesn't want to bind to. Hince the need to try a solvent type of glue over CA.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I have tried to CA some hand railings with no luck. yeah MEK sounds like a good thing to try. Seems like if it worked though we would all know about it by now. Just a thought.

@maltnz

5 ай бұрын

The problem with melting the gear is the pressure pushing the gear together for the repair can then distort the gear at the join or damage the teeth :-(

You could also use Penguin 3D Workshop's replacement gears (I used it on my ATSF U36B)

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Ive yet to see a 3D print gear work or last

I have a few of these Bachmanns, they work great except for the broken gears. I can’t believe no one manufactures replacements.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I hear ya Dan

I bought some reproduction 3d printed gears from eBay made of resin. You do need need to drill out the hole a little bit but other than that they work pretty well.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Cool, glad you found something that worked for you!

A feller on the KZreads mixed CA glue with dental acrylic to fix those gear cracks. Another drilled out the body to accept a CD/DVD motor to improve torque. Back when CD's were a thing.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Dental Acrylic? Wonder where you can get that from? I ve seen the CD motor in a tyco power torque truck video. That was pretty cool

@markwilliams2620

3 ай бұрын

​@@classicmodeltrains He was a retired dentist, so inside job. I looked it up. You have to buy a 5# bag $$$$$$. Or, be nice to your dentist.

Hey Ron, Another Super Video. Have you looked for possible new replacement brushes?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Jeff. No I have not needed any replacement brushes yet. Guess my parts loco stash has provided all I need so far

That for showing us how to get these backup and running. 33%

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Another fantastic video Ron! I was watching a few of your older videos and see you use the 1/4 ounce weights. I found mine at Harbor Freight but they are more rounded on the edges than yours. I like the look of yours better, where did you get them? Thanks Jeff.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I got them from the amazon. Bought a 10 lb little brick of them

@user-df6ld5rg3q

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

These “pancake” motors closely resemble the motor design that Aurora used in there 2nd generation “Model Motoring” slot cars. Now if that is the case, Auto World may have replacement brushes (and even the armature) for these motors. I wonder if the gears from those cars would work? Just a thought. Any way check them out. Fun video into the past, and a reminder why we got away from these “entry level” toy locomotives so darn quick.

@classicmodeltrains

2 ай бұрын

Many Fellers have mentioned the similarities with the slot car motors and these. Ive never seen a slot car bigger than the 1/87th scale ones

WOW - what an ordeal. Never say never.😁

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I took the long way around :-)

Boaters should remember red, right easily. What leaving port and you must use channel markers, red and green, it is commonly taught to remember placement as red, right, return. That means what it says for the return trip by using all words that begin with "R". On the gears, since you will be drilling through plastic, a pin vice may work instead of purchasing a small drill press. Holding the pin vise squarely and rotating with your fingers, the drill bits should cut easily. Just let the drill do the work with light pressure. Also, ever get a bag of drone gears to see if the sizes you need are in the bag? Seems the sizes are not listed and it is a shot in the dark.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Cool info.

Hello Sir, Just found your channel, have been watching a few of your videos. Enjoyed them all. I have been into HO slot car’s since I was 8 years old. 68 now. Have been watching a lot of videos on HO train’s. Would like to get started by getting some old locomotives to take apart and service them. Any advice on which loco’s are easier to work on for Newbie’s. Really enjoy the way you explain how to work on them . TYIA -JC

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words and support of my channel. All loco's are easy to work on. Find some inexpensive ones and dive in. Only way to learn is by doing. American Flyer S gauge is real easy to work on and run for ever.

@jcsgaragejohnc.5027

5 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains TY

You Tuber elite 194 has a video on manufacturing your own Tyco\Life-Like gears from RC gears titled Fabricating gears for Bachmann and Life-Like model trains. You need a razor saw, a vice and he recommends a mini lathe (which is the show stopper for most of us) to drill the centre hole as hand drills can wander off centre.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Dang!I was all looking forward to seeing this until the word mini lathe. I do want one though. Just have to find a good American made one

@maltnz

5 ай бұрын

Just tried this with a hand drill - the 18 tooth gear works OK (bit of wiggle room) but the 8 tooth has to be perfect or it 1. wobbles and jams the wheel gear or 2. the drilled out centre (being thin) splits and you are back to square one. The saw used to cut the gears into slices needs to be sharp and have a fine blade. I have yet to get a fully working replacement gear :-(@@classicmodeltrains

Just found that the one Life-Like I have with blue gears has a cracked gear on the drive shaft. Took it apart this morning after running it yesterday. Was making that clicking noise. The grease was rather dried out.

@classicmodeltrains

2 ай бұрын

Hope you can get something to put it back to work :-)

@michaelfoster1453

2 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains I think I may have an idea. I bought Athearn HO 40' Wheel Axle part # ATHG19254 for another project. The diameter and gear teeth match. The shaft hole is smaller, but that's good. Get the right drill to open up the hole and press fit. I've been working on this.

Thanks. I just got rid of four of them cheaply because they didn't work correctly.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

:-)

I got a vintage bachmann F. unit in a lot And whoever owned it must have took very very good care of it Because the gears are not cracked and it still works like it was just released

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Right on!!

Order a bag of RC plastic gears, they come with multiple sizes included, many you'll never use but they have the idler gears and the ones you can press over the axle. I still have a pile of these old motors that run great but long ago the gears broke and disappeared. I did have some minor success with the crazy glue baking soda method and the cigarette ash with crazy glue method. Eventually those broke again, Bachman should be selling these old gear sets, the stupid board over there doesn't realize the millions they'd make lol.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Yes I wished somebody would make replacement Bachmann gears

Do you ever install dcc decoder in the old unit? Can you do a video on a install if you do.trying to learn how to do it. Love your videos .

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

I have a Tyco Pacific I did a video on installing DCC into it.

@thomasziklo9558

4 ай бұрын

@classicmodeltrains thanks found it . Your awesome.

Great videos! Is the classic model Mara Corday?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Nice job Randy!!

I have one of these, Bachmann F unit; cracked gear, maybe some other things wrong with it... maybe i'll send it to you

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I have a pile of broken Bachmann F units. the shipping would cost more than the loco is worth, but thanks for the offer :-)

It makes you wonder ? Who copied the IP or who improved the design. All the rage in late 70's & 80's. The pancake has been around for quite some time now. The die that produced them is still in HK somewhere. They could remould all this stuff. Even the gears .🐙

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I wonder who stole who's idea for sure.

Hi Ron, are those motor brushes easy to get more of? Maybe McMaster-Carr sells them?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I dont know if they are or not. I would assume its pretty tough to get new ones. I get my extra brushes from parts loco's

13:19 I hear the prototype blowing for a crossing!

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Yes, tracks just half mile away from me.

Could you do a vid on how you use your Ultrasonic cleaner for model trains?

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Well I have talked about it in a lot of my video's. I cant video while its running. The ultrasonic messes with the audio real bad.

@majortomtogc

4 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains You use degreaser in a ziplock , right?

I've heard of ringfield motors .

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I have not. What are they?

all those gears...what a mesh....wakka! wakka!

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Fozzy the bear just popped into my head :-)

They say most people's first Diesels were Bachmann's horrid ones like here. How cheap were these engines vs an Athearn Blue Box back in the 70s and 80s?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I hear BB loco's went for $25 I believe. The Bachmann starter sets these came in were $35 for the whole set. They would work just fine for a few years

@Steamerthesteamtrain

5 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains Dang I bought my F7 used back in 2010 for $20.

Feed the algorithm comment👍

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for feeding the Monster :-)

The really weird thing is the cracked gears have been a thorn in the side of modelers all these years. Bachmann, Life-Like, Atlas and Athearns all have had issues with cracked gears no matter what kind of plastic used. I buy locos from the 80's and 90's (because that's what I can afford) and buy drive gears by the dozen to repair them. Do higher end locomotives have this issue? How about brass imports?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I wish I had higher end loco's to compare to. I wonder if storing them in a climate stable area prevents the cracking. Plastic and metal expand at different rates due to temperature. Ive visited with Fellers that say they have never encountered a cracked gar. I just received a brass import loco a few days ago. Old open frame motor. Will find out how good the gears are soon.

For gears maybe have new ones 3D printed. Otherwise Peters Spares in the UK maybe have them?

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

Ive done 2 video's on 3D printed gears. they are not the answer we hope they can be.

Is there a way to match up those old nylon gears and replace them with brass gears?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Very doubtful. If they were available it would be well known about.

Could you make one of these with two motors???and could you use a pen spring on the brushes in a pinch 😮

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

the chassis would have to be modified because the unpowered front truck goes in and mounts up differently. You would also have to find 2 power trucks that have electrical pickups on them already. Ball point pen spring would work if its outside diameter was the same and you cut it down quite a bit.

@jameskleman5298

4 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains i built a nice golden eagle with two power torque drives and I put the slottcar magnets in it ...added alittle weight ..it can pull 30 cars like a boss ...I was thinking about doing that to a silver streak ...but do it with two mu-2 motors

You mean those Bachmann Paincake motor.

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

He he :-)

I'll by a cheapy bachmann if it's only a couple of dollars. If it's no good, it becomes a dummy unit or track filler for siding.

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

I hear ya there. Always some sorta use for them.

I'll throw in a set of drills for anything all tiny

@classicmodeltrains

3 ай бұрын

:-)

Hey there Ron, here's a question for you: Do you prefer Labelle 107 or 108 for your repairs?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

I'm using the 108. Only reason is it's what the hobby store had when I needed some light synthetic oil. :-)

@mloik1

5 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains Thanks. I thought that was spelled "erl".

Time to go to a different engine transmission setup

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

I agree

That classy model is my wife, where did you get that picture from?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Hired Eddy Valient to get it for me ;-)

Creative repair! If the tooth count were the same couldn't you pull the blue trucks pin out of the frame and ca it, or just pop it into the original frame? either that or find a wire of the correct diameter and make the repair?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

The Bachmann idler axle friction fits into the truck body. The blue gear would have to be drilled out and friction fitted onto the original Bachmann idler shaft in order to work

@greg0063

5 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains I understand but can't you yank the axle from the blue gearset out of the housing and install it into the Backman? And just let it spin around it's original pin as designed? Or would it be too loose a fit?

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

@@greg0063 the blue gear axle would wobble around in the bachmann truck assembly. Could cause it to bind up and break something.

@greg0063

5 ай бұрын

@@classicmodeltrains wow that loose!, I see.

Where would we be without the starter sets of Mantua Tyco , Bachman and Life Like , lets not forget Marx . I would rather "Frankentrain" something together and get it running , even run h o slot cars than watch the super bowl as well .

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Yup, The cheap stuff got us into model railroading. 3rd Feller to mention NOT watching the FB game. I like the way you think :-)

I'm guessing she is Rhonda Fleming -- a gorgeous gal from long ago.

@classicmodeltrains

23 күн бұрын

Could be. I forget who Ive used after a few weeks ;-)

Anyone who says they guessed Mara Corday before the watching until the end is a big fibber... ...I had to look her up even after seeing her name, Fibbers! ......if it makes 'em ornery I'll 'em meet out back of the toolshed, "Go ahead, make my day" kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Nlp66PptK3hbQ.html p.s... ...she's the waitress in that clip ......quite a looker, aged well & still kickin' at 94 yrs

@classicmodeltrains

5 ай бұрын

Yes.....Soft on the eye's for sure.

Oopsy, stupid youtube went to the next video for some reason, and the thanks comment I left here is for the Lionel transformer video, not this one. Oh well, I never claimed to be a professional commenter.

@classicmodeltrains

4 ай бұрын

No worries. I always turn off autoplay on the Utube. Messes me up sometimes as well