it never fails to break me hearing idols’ dietary stories, especially when they had to do it at an age where eating is crucial for great growth. i’m glad the girls eat really well now

@Banana_milk497

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@AltCTRLF8

2 жыл бұрын

this is why i like watching videos of them eating, especially Momo after i heard about the ice cube thing.

It seems Mina is good at everything. She had the shortest training period, doesn't make mistakes in choreography often, can lose and maintain weight easily, loved by her members and adored by staff. She's amazing really.

@light5978

2 жыл бұрын

They once said that mina joined the company prepared. She already good at lot of things. Thats why she train in the shortest time

@BambiLena666

2 жыл бұрын

When they said she does it cause she has strong will, I remembered I still havent met a ballerina with will power/procrastination problems. Idk what they do to them, but I noticed girls that trained ballet through out their childhood are like that, and I think Mina was in ballet for like 11 years. ballerinas just get things done.

@yehokhanan4035

2 жыл бұрын

And that caused her big anxiety

@viola1130

2 жыл бұрын

Losing weight is not something that "she's good at" people have different body types and metabolisms that's all some people just aren't the skinny body type

@BambiLena666

2 жыл бұрын

@@viola1130 If that was true she wouldve been skinny to begin with and wouldnt have been told by the company to lose weight and go on a diet. They said she has strong will power and handled sticking to her diet best out of all of them. tho being a ballerina she was used to having her weight monitored and diets at that point.

We tend to forget how cruel and toxic the industry is itself. To learn how our favourite idols went through hell and back just breaks my heart. Love you Twice!!

@soupistasty5

Жыл бұрын

So, so true. In fact, the whole Kpop industry needs to change. Instead of making 'idols', the emphasis should be moved towards producing artists. Cause artists are just talented, trained people. Idols are objects, and you don't have to think about the feelings of an object. The Tiffany Young interview on the Zach Sang show talks all about this... it's really interesting on this topic of changes that need to happen to Kpop.

I've seen somewhere that they don't even know their weight nowadays because they don't weigh themselves a lot. I hope TWICE good health and happiness!

@Banana_milk497

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 😔

@mousemanm2631

2 жыл бұрын

When they mention the ban, do they mean they couldn't get food? Or I understood that wrong?

@ed3245

2 жыл бұрын

@@mousemanm2631 i think they were ban from entering the company

@cyrielle_

2 жыл бұрын

@@ed3245 I believe they're banned from taking the dance/vocal... lessons. Even Min from Miss A who was sent by JYP to the US to train there talked about being weight every week and being banned from classes when she gained weight, and even got send back to Korea 3 times for being "overweight" (by the company standard). She said it was to the point where she would exercice like crazy, go to the sauna, not drink or eat anything the morning before getting on the scale, even throwing up at some point.... The body standards are just crazy...

@ed3245

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyrielle_ from what I know, jyp has said that being a bit overweight means you're not fit to dance and the body feels and look heavy when doing dance, their standard is kinda athlete standard. Not sure about the vocal lessons tho

I think they were traumatized by the diet restrictions. At least Dahyun... its good they talk about it now and most of them can laugh about it but to starve someone and deny them food is literally a method of torture. Also I feel like saying "but now they are so successful" gives an excuse for these methods. They are successful despite going through that, not because of it.

@SalamanderMagic

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Even if being slim is a standard for idols, they shouldn’t have to torture themselves for it. I wish companies would at least just give them healthier diet and exercise plans so they could lose weight slowly over time, in a more natural way for their bodies.. if sounds like these poor girls were starving themselves to reach goals

@katiapereira882

2 жыл бұрын

They quite literally were Momo was told to loose 15 pounds in a week so she didn't eat anything at all and forced herself to spit. Sana as a trainee fainted in a bath house. Perhaps the saddest thing of all is they were always at healthy weights rather Kpop demands and expects unrealistic body expectations. Momo didn't need to loose 15 pounds etc. When you say traumatic I don't think enough people realize that, not only with their trainee period but filming Sixteen. You can tell in the air they don't like to talk about it all these years later, Nayeon herself said she did not like talking about it. That after each shoot they would go outside to walk and cry. To me what really cemented how bad the experience was for them was when they described how they felt the moment it was announced they had won. They said they didn't feel excitement and immense happiness nor disappointment, they said they felt numb and if anything and overwhelming feeling of relief that the torment was over, only later on did they start feeling excited to debut. You can tell if you watch how some of them are just reaction less.

@stefannico

2 жыл бұрын

@@katiapereira882 yeah, I've recently watched sixteen and Momo had a sixpack by then already, even before they debuted. So why would she have to lose weight, especially since she is the performer and dancer of a whole generation. She has to be physically fit, not starved. Also when they were announced the winners, it looked like Jeongyeons mental health problems started right there. She had that "thousand mile stare" into nothing. Maybe because she was overwhelmed by happiness but I think there might have been negative emotions too. I guess we won't find out until they disband and maybe disclose some of that stuff in later years. But then again, thats what non disclosure agreements are for. I just wish them health and happiness.

@apples8872

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefannico the girls have openly stated they would never want to go through sixteen ever again. It’s obvious it was a very hard time for them. I believe some of the girls dealt with eating disorders and could possibly still deal with them. Momo has even said she works reallly hard to eat good food. Meaning she busts her ass to burn off what she eats.

So that’s where the story of Chan helping out the girls came from🤯

Through all of the sad talk of their trainee days, the part where they said that other trainees would sneak them food & 1 took the heat (Chan) for eating all of the Samgeopsal gave me The Feels. 🥺

@ChRisu_Ojisan

2 жыл бұрын

who is chan ? bang chan? or someone else?

@uriel393

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChRisu_Ojisan @4:28 or so. I’m not sure, but now I wanna know! 😽

@ChRisu_Ojisan

2 жыл бұрын

@@uriel393 probably bang chan

@uriel393

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChRisu_Ojisan bang Chan would totally sneak the other trainees food.😆

@ChRisu_Ojisan

2 жыл бұрын

@@uriel393 lol

If JYP is considered an agency that is kind to their trainees, the other companies must be absolute hell.

@apples8872

2 жыл бұрын

The bigger the industry gets the more scrutiny they will receive which can lead to positive changes in the K-pop world. The more we voice our dislike for how these young girls and boys are treated then they will have no choice but to change

I used to be insecure about my weight back then cause ppl always tell me I was chubby that I forced myself to eat 1 meal a day and drink a pill for weight loss...then I ended up in the hospital. And I'm already an adult when this happened. I can't imagine them being around 13-17 years old and doing strict diet. Companies should not normalise these kind of stuff. They were just kids.

@BambiLena666

2 жыл бұрын

Culture normalizes all kinds of ugly stuff when it comes to womens and girls bodies. I remember watching sixteen and Jihyos mom saying something like "oh she used to be so pretty but now she gained weight", Jihyo was completely healthy and normal weight in sixteen. Companies lean into the culture. Im hoping the stronger western influence lately starts somewhat of a change, instead of just making idols lie. On a more personal note, i remember about 20 years ago, we were about 12, when our PE teacher (an older woman) gave "tips" on how to lose 5kg in a week. It included eating nothing but clear soup for 4 days. I thought she was stupid back then, but it didnt really hit me how harmful her "advice" was until much later.

The way that managers and companies treat their trainees and artists when it comes to diet is obscene... They have control of course, but not a "are you eating well? " control. No, losing weight is all it matters. No concern whatsoever of if they're severely damaging the health of their trainees... And then we have stuff like Momo's infamous one-ice-cube-per-day diet. Are you kidding me? Assume responsibility for your actions and start treating the artists well... No food coupons if you're on a diet? The stuff out beloved artists have to go through.... 😞

@nathanp2007

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention being stressed makes losing weight very difficult. So instead of taking a mentally and physically healthy approach in which the trainees feel safe, unjudged and unpunished they could be supported and encouraged and that lead to better results.

@Bugias

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanp2007 yeah but that would mean effort on their part so no, weight & punish is all the trainees get 😒

@helloforsake8620

2 жыл бұрын

Correct me if i’m wrong but i’m pretty sure momo only ate 1 ice cube the entire week

@helloeverybody8204

2 жыл бұрын

@@helloforsake8620 no your right she did eat Ice cubes for the entire week. I think that was her meal ice cubes ,frozen water for a week.

@Bugias

2 жыл бұрын

@@helloeverybody8204 one per day or one per week? I thought it was one per day... Either way, it's absolutely insane 😩

That's one of the reason why I'm feeling bad watching kpop. Because the industry is horrible in those aspects How can they enjoy and get better if their first priority is to be skinny and if their schedule make them tired all the time. I'm really amazed that Twice keep their energy and positiveness even after their hardships, well all kpop groups in general. I just feel like me watching is just encouraging these treatments. But stopping kpop is leaving this colourful and super funny world. I just think kpop can still be a happy place without those radical treatments. I mean not eating at all ?? Wth?? They are smiling and all because it's difficult to bring the mood down, especially when it's Twice, but I'm really disgusted by that

I know this is common in idol culture but this made me tear up. They work so hard and go through so much stress to maintain an image someone else sets on them, and some don’t even make it. They’ve worked so hard and deserve everything they have. I can’t even imagine their trauma from their trainee days. I hope they are able to heal from what they’ve been through together.

This is the bad thing about this industry, literally forcing Idols to go on a diet to an extreme point. I know TWICE doesn’t worry about weight that much rn, and I’m glad that they are happy and they eat whatever they want. Its just sad that they had to go through that rough part, especially Momo, when she literally ate ice and still thought she’ll gain weight from it and not to mention her thinking if she will still wake up the next day is so heartbreaking.

@kardelen369

2 жыл бұрын

yess you are so right i don't think an artist should think of these things because they want to produce music and perform but industry also want them to be skinny this also affects young fans too because they'll think they are gonna be only acceptable if only they are skinny

This was actually so sad to watch you can see how they still have a hard when they remember what they had to go thru

Dont make kids diet regularly unless theyre overweight / obese / unhealthy. You could affect their growth and create unhealthy views on nutrition, like here, where the girls think theyre beautiful because they dieted. Just eat good and balanced food and exercise regularly. Dieting before a performance is okay if it isnt too much weight. 10 lbs isnt that hard to lose in a week as it is mostly water and replacing regular food with low density low calorie food.

@yeti1835

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but 10 lbs is a lot to lose if you're already low weight

@antondelacruz9362

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeti1835 correct. It is easy only when done by people who arent already constantly dieting. Hard to tell with twice as some members weights fluctuate during busy periods.

I noticed that they compliment the victim by saying that they have strong will and bravery, etc. But never scold the system for the abuse they caused. Maybe because they're basically trapped under contract. Overall, its sad.

@Html5969

Жыл бұрын

Maybe that’s how the Industry works in general and they don’t blame the company

my poor babies...that is surely a sad memory but im glad they can eat all and whatever they want now!

At 0:56 when momo was trying to comfort dahyun saying she was also banned a lot…🥺

The effort they made is admirable and thanks to that they are one of the best K-Pop groups. ✨✨

omg this is so sad . ive been diet + workout for 2 weeks only and im already tired and suffering a lot 😭 feel bad for them especially momo ㅠㅠ its not easy to diet tho . and for those with eating disorders ..i mean , myself :(

the Glory comes before suffering . now Twice are the most successful and highest level kpop girl group❗💥👍

@sydresurreccion5652

2 жыл бұрын

after suffering*

the poor members 😢

Wow this is actually incredibly sad.

Makes me sad that our Twice girls suffered from the dieting system that the industry impose on them. But they grew stronger bonds as a true family. They are all sisters that love. protect, and support each other . I love you Twice ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

They suffer that time but now they're living their lost teenage years damn

From predebut photos none of the girls looked chubby tho, what kind of weight did the trainees had to maintain 🤯🤯

@madymontgomery7489

2 жыл бұрын

I think Jeongyeon has mentioned being requested to be 45kg and 44kg, 99.2 lbs and 97 lbs.

It’s not easy to succeed🥺 twice so amazing 💪🏻💪🏻❤️❤️

I feel like many truths will come out as my favorite group wraps up. I love each and every one so dearly

This is so heartbreaking. Being on a diet so young especially while training as hard as they did and then getting banned if you don’t make weight? I’m sure they don’t have access to nutritionists to keep them healthy while they do this. They seem to laugh about it now but they look traumatized by it all.

@letsgetit7566

2 жыл бұрын

Yea like how can they not afford proper nutritionists...never understood

I’m glad they can laugh about these experiences, because it seems genuinely traumatic to me. I can’t imagine having to go through the extreme dieting they had. It must have been really hard...

Quiet inspiring to share their stress stories. I guess the world best does endure the world's greatest pain.

The fact that they make them diet when they are such young kids, is crazy to the point if torture. Like Momo only eating ice cubes to lose weight. Most would lose any chubbyness in their late teens anyways, from just growing.

Although they were laughing and I was smiling as I watched but inside I was crying😔😞😭 And everybody saying they are not suffering now are you sure? Yes they are famous but I think they are still being overworked still suffering (not like before atleast)

Though they didn’t specify why Chan was banned I do like to think he helped them get food…sounds like something he’d do.

this is just sad):

This is so sad

Love twice 🍭❤️😊

Me causa tristeza escucharlas hablar tan casual sobre esto, sé que para los coreanos este tipo de dietas son muy comunes, sin embargo el llegar a extremos como no comer o comer realmente poco puede resultar muy dañino en el organismo, no tendrían por qué normalizarlo de esa manera, como si perder peso las hiciera más bonitas de lo que ya son cuando no funciona así. Ojalá las agencias no fueran tan crueles con los trainees 😞

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It's funny on the outside but actually it's very sad that they had to go through all that.

that was so harsh... eating food is a daily need, but that news about MOMO eating ice cubes. gosh, it would really affect your mental health, not only being moody but being malnourished at the same time. TWICE gave me life from their music, but all those hardships and culture they had so they can debut, was a game changer. whoever you are, dont eat like a kpop idol, ur health is the most important thing to make.

I like green 💚💚💚

It scared me when Jungyeon said Momo would cry at night because she was afraid that she wont wake up the next day. To think that they were so malnourished to that point is so sad and angers me that this world praises eating disorders

0:33.. i might’ve melted a little..

its depressing and i definitely do not laugh at this. i know they can laugh at it now but its definitely tramatic for them. the fact they were forced to diet especially at young ages. terrible. i like to think the practice doesn't still happen for trainees but i am sure it still does. glad they have been able to deal and move forward. you can clearly see that Dayhun just hates thinking about it.

What do they mean they were “banned” from the company? Like banned from the canteen?

it’s sad bc they weren’t dieting they were being starved 😕

Things may not be perfect but they have gotten better. Swan from Purple Kiss & Gahyeon from Dreamcatcher certainly were not thin or seemed to be forced to be thin at debut. And let's remember its the boys too - one person - can't remember his name - said basically ate only chicken.

Chan is a hero

kpop industry is so cruel also some toxic fans because your main reason to stan a group should be their music not the artist's appearance and i think this stupid thinking will end when agencies start to only care about the artist's music not their visual or etc. because let me tell you there is lots of groups with just visual and bad music they are literally promoting the idol not the song ????????? so stupid i love my girls

I gained 5 lbs this holiday season :-(

what does it mean if they get banned?

What is the ban they are talking about?

What did it mean when they were banned?

What do they mean when referring to banning idols

@a4tersetttt

2 жыл бұрын

the banned idols can't go to the company to practice for a certain amount of time

why did they ban them? What does it mean

What do they mean by ban ??

What do they mean by "banned"? What were they banned from, exactly? I'm so lost.

@lirios7858

2 жыл бұрын

i think what they mean is that they're banned from eating at the cafeteria

@n_1913

2 жыл бұрын

Since jy said she didn't see dahyun often I think she meant they were banned from coming to the company until they lost the weight .

This is so wrong on many levels. I seriously wonder why anyone would want to go through this crap to have the extremely low chance of becoming famous.

Lmao Chan got blamed😂😂

I don’t understand. What do they mean by “banned”????

@anne21bon

2 жыл бұрын

I think it meant not allowed to eat in cafeteria so they wouldn't see each other since they didn't practice together.

What do they mean by getting banned??

@lirios7858

2 жыл бұрын

i think what they mean is that they're banned from eating at the cafeteria

i'm glad they can be thicc now, i wonder why the company changed.

what does banning mean in this context?

@anne21bon

2 жыл бұрын

Eat in cafeteria I think?

who is Chan? is he in any idol group now?

@check1024

2 жыл бұрын

Most likely Bang Chan of Stray Kids.

what is getting banned? like they were grounded and couldnt do things?

@sethdeakin

Жыл бұрын

banned from the cafeteria that is why they don't see each other because they have different practice schedules and maybe the few times they can see each other is in the cafeteria

I am quite sure a spider is crawling on JY's hair at 0:18

And now look at Dahyun. ⏳⏳⏳⏳

why do they get banned

@multifandom6645

2 жыл бұрын

u should watch this video till the end

In high school I went from 138lbs to 115lbs in a month. It was stressful, practicing (wrestling) is super hard and I was literally starving. But I kept at it because being competitive in the correct weight class for my frame was what I wanted to do at the time. I thought it justified the pain. Nobody forced or gaslighted me into doing it. Dieting sucks but if you don't want to compete in a field of endeavor where weight is important, you don't have to. South Korea and the West have that going for them. What's the alternative? Body acceptance idols? +sized beauties who sing and dance? I don't know that I would be on U2B looking for that content. I mean, I get the whole body acceptance movement but it goes too far when I hear some argue how being fat is healthy. Beautiful? Maybe you can argue about that, eye of the beholder and all, but obesity is not healthy and kills more people than all other preventable causes of death. None of these girls are obese. Not now, not when they were trainees. But they're competing in a marketplace of aesthetics for monetary gain and personal satisfaction/achievement. JYP or any entertainment company can choose to work with people who fit their criteria. Self control and self maintenance are important criteria for these agencies. With so many wanting the fame and fortune and no shortage of super talented, beautiful aspirants, the agencies can afford to choose among the "best". Tiny differences can make or break your dreams. It is what it is.

@zara3960

2 жыл бұрын

This is such an ignorant, ugly comment. Body Mass Index, the thing that doctors use to categorized peoples health depending on their weight have been proven to be useless. I'm currently an underweight person, but if you look at my blood test my health its completely fine. It goes both ways. A persons health should be only a concern between them and their doctors and whoever else they want to share it with. You don't go out saying skinny people are unhealthy, then don't go away saying fat people are unhealthy. I know skinny people who are extremely sick and I know "obese" people who have perfect health. The girls are fine and you cannot know their health by just looking at them. How do you not know if someone could have anemia? or an autoinmmune disease? You don't know those things by just looking at them. Same goes with fat people. And beauty can also be a cultural construction, as I have seen, south koreans are very obssesed with weight and have a really high rate of eating disorders, to them, anyone above 50kg is fat. So yeah, that should change for them and for the rest of the world. And if u think fat people cannot be beautiful (because they're "ill") then let me tell you you are ableist and an ugly person on the inside. A link for u to read globalnews.ca/news/2523620/are-you-still-using-bmi-to-measure-your-health-dont-docs-say/#:~:text=U.S.%20doctors%20suggest%20BMI%20is,even%20though%20they%20aren't. but google its free.

@meerca67

Жыл бұрын

honestly fucked up how you end up supporting their abuse, ngl

@seren512

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you and all these comments talking about how JYP tortured these girls are frankly annoying. These girls weren’t forced to be trainees. They could quit any time they wanted to if they didn’t want to diet anymore. But they wanted to be a celebrity so they stuck it out and look where they are now. Also, comments talking about body positivity from a western perspective but keep in mind in order for a K-pop group to do well they need to succeed in their own country first and it’s just a hard fact that idols who don’t fit the Korean beauty standard will not gain popularity as much.

jyp overworks them he better let them eat whatever they want now

That shit should be illegal

Banned for doing what???😭😭😭

It's nice to see the trainees helping each other but this method of diet is just too much...

🌹👍🏍️💌👮👽🛸

I don’t get it, banned from what?

@sethdeakin

Жыл бұрын

banned from the cafeteria that is why they don't see each other because they have different practice schedules and maybe the few times they can see each other is in the cafeteria

What does getting banned even mean

@anne21bon

2 жыл бұрын

Not allowed into cafeteria I think

@letsgetit7566

2 жыл бұрын

@@anne21bon thank u

That's why the heads looks so big on Skinny body's on a lot of girls. Most girls look Just great before and now use paddings to give them some curves. But still think Twice looks better then most of them.

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Lesson: if you work hard today oneday you can talk about past very relaxly and with a laughing face

Um that's kinda fucked up.

0:56 momo for win

That’s actually very sad that Jihyo would get banned just because of weight

to all people saying idol's diet is strict n torture remember. they chose it. they know the consequences. they read it, think abt it clearly before sign the contract. that's adult life. you choose a job and deal with the risk. idols get a lot of money and fame but with a price to pay like their freedom and mental health just like other profession doctor n nurses are exhausted and prone to be infected by virus soldiers got high chance to die/crippled for life construction and factory workers, and a lot more

This is so sad

what does it mean if they get banned?