Momo: everyone was surprised to see me Jeongyeon: because you lost too much weight? 😀 Momo: no, because I was dying 😶

@Soufriere84

2 жыл бұрын

Momo has been very open about what they put her through (and what she put herself through). Luckily for everyone, Momo got herself under control before she developed a permanent eating disorder or, worse, became a statistic. These young ladies did not lead charmed lives, _especially_ as trainees.

@ELmayberry

2 жыл бұрын

@@Soufriere84 true🤧

@aidanpia5458

2 жыл бұрын

@@Soufriere84 she put all the weight she lost back on in a week, luckily the members haven't had to do anything like that since. Hell they even eat expensive meat almost daily 😂

@anyjules

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidanpia5458 yea but think about the current trainees... they most likely still go through these things

@beahappybubble

2 жыл бұрын

I remember once Momo told Tzuyu to get the haircut Tzuyu wanted because she did that too and the agency didn't like it but it was her life, she would do whatever she wanted to. Momo's personality is quite clear and sharp. Very much respect for this aspect of hers.

Every single time I hear Momo's "ice cube" story I feel guilty for enjoying content that's only possible through shit like this. I really hope that one day the k-pop industry will be forced to reconsider these ridiculous body standards.

@Catras_unfairly_gorgeous_smirk

2 жыл бұрын

It's not bad to enjoy stuff like this. It's only bad if you enjoy it while choosing to be ignorant and idle towards its darker side. We use and enjoy a whole lot of stuff that's "wrong" in a way. Meat, cars, electricity etc. We're not wrong for liking these things. We only make ourselves part of the problem if we accept everything the way it is without actively helping it improve if improvement is necessary. Enjoy Kpop as much as you want. But if you hear stories about idols suffering etc., don't sit on your hands with your head turned away. Be part of the ever growing crowd that pushes for an overhaul. That's how all change always starts: with people getting louder until they can no longer be ignored.

@JisooTurtleRabbitt

2 жыл бұрын

I know, how do they expect them to have the energy to train hard everyday for 10+ hours on crumbs

@Banana_milk497

2 жыл бұрын

@@JisooTurtleRabbitt yes

@yesiexist7113

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but the end was really relieving

@noparkingnomercy3248

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the trauma the agency caused these young girls as they grew up must have been awful.

Dubu is so honest about it saying she doesn't want to remember those days, we can only imagine the struggles they had to be where they are rn. It must be hard for them to answer fan questions about their trainee days.

i actually relate to sana strategy a lot. especially when learning english or chinese. when my tutor start her godzilla mode i just put an innocent face and start "eh?" "sorry?" and eventually she will help XD

@sita487

2 жыл бұрын

ur English is more than great

@asxtro7145

2 жыл бұрын

Learning English??! You sound fluent!

@zakhariarova4790

2 жыл бұрын

@@sita487 thanks but that's because my tutor really put a lot of effort 👍

@zakhariarova4790

2 жыл бұрын

@@asxtro7145 thanks so much bro

5:25 this is my first time seeing Momo tell her story to her group mates. Honestly, I find their reactions more disturbing than the story itself. It’s scary to see dangerous dieting or eating disorders being normalized. I’m not mad at them, but I do pray for them. They’re working in a system that they have no control over. Also knowing that Mina and Jeongyeon would take time off for mental health reasons make this clip age even worse.

@carly6037

2 жыл бұрын

Same, when I first saw momo's story and the reaction of the others, as if it's something admirable and amazing I was like "tf is wrong with them!?" how can anyone be laughing and praising this shit?

@boink352

2 жыл бұрын

at the same time, the company was enforcing the diet, and since the members are part of the company, what can they say? they’d probably get in trouble if they reacted negatively- it is disturbing tho that diets like that are glorified

@beahappybubble

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it was because the girls went through the same shit.

@n.6353

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t see how their reactions were bad? They seem shocked

@STLUCIANIDOL91

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.6353 jihyo said she thought Momo was amazing, and Jeongyeon said that Momo had a strong will. Yes, they were shocked, but it seemed like they were impressed more than appalled.

That's why when asked if they can go back to the past and undergo the trainings again, most of them said no and they would also prohibit their future children go to these trainings. That's how traumatic it was.

@amurizon

2 жыл бұрын

I can understand that they would be hesitant to let their future children become trainees, but in the end, a person ought to be able to pursue their dreams. If such a child wants to, his/her parents could warn them, but they shouldn't force them not to do something (unless it's immoral or illegal).

@HeavenlyLove47

2 жыл бұрын

@@amurizon i mean if we’re being honest, most kpop training system are immoral and some of them are illegal (think SA, debt, etc) i agree parents should support their kids dream, but it’s very understandable the ones who discourage it.

Stoopid JYPE for putting Momo through that experience. She really is the best girl. She deserves the world.

That story of Mina just came from a drama. Do I have to do this till I die? Do I have to lose everything for doing what I want? I don't know but that's a climax in my book.

@LeeCupcake676

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah a rich daughter fighting with her parents lol 😂✨✨

@ELmayberry

2 жыл бұрын

@@LeeCupcake676 true😂

@LeeCupcake676

2 жыл бұрын

@@ELmayberry yep 😂😂. It's like a scene from a kdrama 😂😂

I remember reading years ago that JYP spent a bunch of money on a cafeteria that would have healthy tasty food for people at the company and he said his artist’s health was the number one priority. It’s interesting to see the girls talking about being banned from even going to the cafeteria if they were put on a super strict diet. And Momo being told to lose that much weight in a week is CRAZY! She almost killed herself, she said she was afraid of not waking up when she went to sleep, that is so sad. I hope they’re all happier and healthier now.

@aidanpia5458

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah JYP himself cares alot for the idols, he shows it all the time. It's the company as a whole that did the whole Momo weight thing. While JYP doesn't haven't control over twice, he's still an important mentor to them.

@user-oi9ej8bk4v

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidanpia5458 uh i'm sure JYP himself has enough power to change these types of things if he wanted to.

@idavoutila1808

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-oi9ej8bk4v he used to have more power but these days he's more like a producer and face of the company. The investors hold the power and the higher staff. He is definitely not excused though.

@jumpinjupman

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-oi9ej8bk4v they have hundreds of trainees, and you can't just change the standard in korea. the kpop industry is dog eat dog so there's nothing he can even do lol.

@user-oi9ej8bk4v

2 жыл бұрын

@@jumpinjupman and it's that kind of thinking that allows people to literally suffer. believe it or not, there ARE idols out there who don't live miserable lives bc their policies don't conform to the big 3 standards. but yeah, continue to excuse them & let people be mentally and physically destroyed. weirdo

They really have been through so much, but managed to make it to where they are today. They definitely deserve all their success.

Bro Momo's story is craaaazy. Why do companies do that :(((

The way Chaeyoung says Sally HITS DIFFERENT!!

I was becoming emotional after listening momo and that suddenly at 7:56 I laughed so hard

I hope the excesively strict diet policy changes

I love God Jihyo and Jeongyeon's friendship. They are so cute together. Welcome back Jeongyeon! Us Once missed you so much. We will always support and love you. Stay healthy and safe. OT9 stay safe and healthy always.

@treskantos1074

2 жыл бұрын

i thought shes most close to Nayeon since Sixteen .. or i only get it wrong ?

Momos story always breaks💔 my heart 🥺

Hearing Momo’s story was really heartbreaking. I hope they change this policy permanently. All these trainees and future Idols have been working their butts off and dedicated their lives into Debuting but there has to be a line. I know, it’s an industry standard but it shouldn’t be. To think they were practically Kids or Teenagers. If they needed to hit a certain standard, the company should help them not leave them to their own devices. I’m just super glad Momo is well but that was really tough to know she went through all that.

@xtiantube

2 жыл бұрын

It broke my heart too :( momo was so young at the time and even though she’s able to talk about it casually and almost jokingly, when you develop eating habits like that, they stay in the back of your head forever. She looks so healthy these days and I know that she’s taking care of herself, which makes me happy. But how could anyone every look at momo and tell her that she needs to lose 7kg? And not feel like a terrible person?? That’s insane.

omg the fact that they introduced a "card system" to monitor trainees' food intake should be criminal. such a high end company but they can't even hire proper dietitians and trainers to help the girls get fit

When Jeongyeon said "that's too much" and "ask them to try on their own" I was like, RIGHT?!?!?! 😂 That's just awful for Momo tho. Glad she's doing okay now that they're successful.

i've always heard stories about jihyo's dieting days but never momo's.... (both are equally sad) it's crazy how casually she can retell the story about how she almost died with a smile on her face. believe it or not, but these girls are most definitely traumatized and are hopefully seeking help

Once Momo retires, I won't be even the slightest bit of mad if she ate a "ton" of jokbal, she deserves it.

@stelrex7293

2 жыл бұрын

Why does Momo have to wait until she retires? She is probably eating it even now. Momo does not hold back when it's food. 😅

@villoab

2 жыл бұрын

She said in one of their latest reaction videos that it's no longer her favorite. She likes yam more now. She said she is a yam fairy now.

@stelrex7293

2 жыл бұрын

@@villoab She dumped Jokbal quite a long time ago. Before this she was also fond of Avocado 🥑

@sita487

2 жыл бұрын

she should eat however much she likes and not wait for retirement

@skzanarchist

2 жыл бұрын

She shouldn't wait for retirement to eat a ton of food. She could do that now if she pleases

In any other environment, this would be considered child abuse. But because they signed contracts and are 'working toward greatness' and prevailed to obtain a happy ending, it's laughed off and considered simply part of the process. What these girls, and the industry as a whole, refuse to talk about are the countless young girls who don't succeed and instead suffer from the consequences of such a rigorous and harmful procedure across years of their life. Those same girls who become part of terrible statistics after being literally trained to dislike the way their body naturally looks. People involved are too comfortable in their success, and some of the fans/audience are too forgiving of abuse's continuation. Putting yourself on the brink of death, or in any extremely unhealthy state, is not worth any fame that might be attributed to it - certainly not for children/teenagers. Believing otherwise feels more like brainwashing or willful ignorance than honest discourse.

Bang Chan with an honorable mention lmao

Heart wrenching Momo story aside, Tzuyu and Chaeyoung's conversation was cute. Those two now are close, but it's amazing that even while filming Sixteen they didn't really talk much. Still, they probably where just two trainees out of many back then, so there was no telling who you'd end up being paired with (if you'd even be paired up with anyone.)

@kitoera

2 жыл бұрын

What i loved about Tzuyu and Chaeyoung's convo is when Tzuyu explained how hard Dayhun was trying to communicate with her in Chinese. I always commend a person for trying to reach out in another persons language as it can feel uncomfortable and weird if you're not fluent in it. She still tried regardless of if she might sound weird. That's so unbelievably precious to me 🥲

Being twice is not easy , those scary and painful trainy days stories prove that. They deserve every bit of success they have achieved till now .

Don't forget to Stream Scientist MV everyone, let's give them more win

@reikoarisugawa6653

2 жыл бұрын

And don't forget to vote Twice on MAMA

@chaosbringer9007

2 жыл бұрын

Why is PedoBear your dp tho

The fact JYPE promotes themselves as the company that treats their idols fairly... Banning girls from eating at the cafeteria? Making girls lose 7kg in one week? Did they know this would lead to them being afraid they wouldn't wake up in the morning? Did they know it would almost kill these girls?? It sickens me they went through all this just to entertain people. It's even worse that I keep eating up this content that thrives off of terrible mental health. I really hope one day these companies will come to their senses and start letting idols eat. Or take breaks. Or even have time for mental health:(

Not bang chan getting blamed for eating all the samgyeopsal 😭 then again he smuggled the cafeteria coupons for twice

now, momo can eat whatever she wants. it's sad they have to go through that.

my respect for these girls just get bigger everytime i learn more about them. the personal growth it took for them to do all those hard and extreme diets and be able to talk about it to fans. sp for Momo who shared about her ice cube diet and laugh about it after. its a sensitive topic after all. and i love how Dahyun just honeslty said it was just so stressful for her so she avoids the topic. bc it probably really was.

Cool how Straykds BangChan snuck the twice members' food when they didn't have the cafeteria coupons.

Do you guys know, a ONCE saw TWICE near jyp building, they were recording something. When she saw there again there was nothing and she suddenly felt a hand on her shoulder. It was Tzuyu's. And Tzuyu told her “Dear ONCEU! why are not streaming “SCIENTIST!!”. Stream “SCIENTIST” . My fellow ONCEs ✨😊

7:23 one of the reasons why I love Jeongyeon🤣🥰

I found it surprising to find that Mina failed the dance test. Momo has said more than once that Mina learns choreography super fast

@tommyo2450

2 жыл бұрын

Often they will "fail" someone just to get them to work harder and stay on their toes so to speak..They worry trainees will become complacent if they pass something Everytime..

@diegonw8555

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommyo2450 although I disagree with a lot of things about the industry, you have a good point. Especially if we remember that Mina was the one who had less time as a trainee.

@Soufriere84

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommyo2450 Reminds me of how Jihyo got bumped down to the "Minor" category on Sixteen despite being Jihyo. JYP had already known her for years and I think he held her to a higher standard because he KNEW her potential and didn't want her to get complacent again (I heard it happened before and was why she didn't debut earlier)

Sana is a smart actress and I love that 😂

I'm addicted to how Chaeyoung says "Sally" 😩👌

Momo’s story is so heartbreaking ): as chill as she makes it sound, she literally looked like she was dying and was afraid she would ))))))):

Damn. jyp (company) straight up abused momo. That story of fearing that she's not going to wake up is mental torture. What the fuck. Forcing her to lose so much weight in a week is just stupid. Willpower is great and all but the fuck was that for.

Bang Chan getting all the blame for the samyupsal 😂

@ELmayberry

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@skzanarchist

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

Chaeng's sassy way of saying 'Sally' HAHAHAHA

These training sessions do not even pass a children's rights test, they are literally torture, forcing a skinny girl to lose 7 kilos in a week or else she cannot realize her dream and suffer is sadism.

@Soufriere84

2 жыл бұрын

From what I've heard, some of the worst Pop agency practices have been legally banned in Japan, but not in Korea. As bad as JYPE has been, they don't hold a candle to SME's depravity -- _that_ company has a literal body count. Also, one hopes JYPE is moving in the right direction, as they allowed Twice to be open about Mina & Jeongyeon.

@seren512

Жыл бұрын

Yes and it’s especially concerning considering the fact that most trainees are minors so going on extreme diets where they starve themselves might stunt their growth😢 These are developing kids and teenagers ffs

I hate hearing about the struggles of their trainee days 😕 I just want to hold them and tell them they’re perfect the way they are and protect them at all costs 🥺💜

This video is basically 15 min of us feeling bad for them, poor girls, can’t believe they managed to get past that, I don’t wish that upon anybody.

Some of these stories are really sad. How many other girls went through this same level of stress and suffering and didn't get a big break?

I like how you synched their dance to cute music

Momo's story almost got me crying but then she did that - 7:53 😂 Love her best girl Momo

jfc chae with the long black hair is a masterpiece of baby beast energy

there stories make me so sad i cant

I think there was also some story of Chaeyoung and Somi eating noodles (?) in the toilet and talking about how pathetic they were when the door opened and some JYP staff asked what they were doing 😭

the part about her having to lose 7kg is so fucking sad :( these ppl/agencies don't care about one's safety at all

The training and dieting sound brutal, but I wonder if it's also a way for the company to see who among the trainees really wants to succeed the most, and who has the drive and ambition to keep going through the struggles, and who will drop out.

I really hope jype‘s stopped starving children.. what they went through is horrifying

Omg I really love this kind of videos, thank uuuu 💖

my day went even better because of your videos.

First clip got me rofl 🤣🤣🤣 sana, what do i do with you 🤣🤣🤣

The story of them trainee makes me cried lot(in my heart)😭😭😭😭😭😭😭how logic loss 7kg in a week???haiyaa 😤😤😤😤i will starve to death if i do that😭😭😭😭😭😭

2nd 🤭❤️ i was waiting for your video and now I get it thanks 😊

Thanks for this vod, I'm tired of seeing recycled videos with the same Twice clips. (It's my 1st time seeing a compiled video about their trainee days)

i feel so bad for momo. i’ll never let go of my bias. she deserves literally everything ❤️🥺

I know I've said it before but I REALLY LOVE YOUR INTRO 😍

@tommyo2450

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and I love the outro! But I've said that a million times.. lol . Don't change it!!!

Sana potter... Where have you gone? I miss you..😢

10:35 Dahyun the best❤

That's freaking cruel jyp You did wrong to our Momo before and now with our Ryujin 🥲

the momo story is just not okay, legit on the path to death

These weight-loss stories are so sad. I can’t believe a company is allowed to treat them this way. Doesn’t seem ethical.

Damn, I didn't know they go through shit like that. I feel sorry for them 😟 I wonder if they still have to do that kind of diet right now? I really hope they're not.

🤗Loveable times🥰

Diet doesn't work but cutting the sugar and carbohydrates (white rice) mainly surgery drink in daily meal will help reduce the fat in the body. Sugar from fruit are healthy and take longer to digest or burn off vs refined sugar are easy to digest and absorb straight to the blood stream given quick boost "sugar rush or high and crash after" if not burn off it will stored in the fat cells weight gain. So best is to eat fruits and not soda....

Beautiful !

Vote for Twice in MAMA. Your videos always great

Love to see Momo and Chaeyoung dancing . Mochae is real ❤️❤️❤️ Saranghaeyo Twice even though im a Merry .. Congrats in winning an award in AAA 2021 . i just feel sad that you dont attend . want to see you with Momoland again just like the old times ❤️❤️❤️

How tf can they laugh hearing momo’s story, tf is wrong with the people who forced her to do that, ice cubes? Those people are sick, and the members talking about that so casually is heartbreaking, I’m just glad they are healthier these days

Jeongyeon wit long hair rocksss!!

princess,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,miss you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Happy Together moment forever :-)

OMG SANA’S WAY OF GETTING OUT OF TROUBLE- 👀

always support my friends. God bless you.

was it JYPE that made them do those diets? surprised they are allowed to speak about it if so but its good that they do speak on it

Wow I love momo more then I like her she did all to be where she is now love and respect to these girls 🙏🙏

Dahyun is GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 cube of ice for a week............maybe that be a song for that, it almost became a RIP moment. Sooooo glad momo, so glad.

1st HAHAHA

great

trainer: . . . SANA

I was shock for how momo diet and the feeling that time, even a healthy people will scared if they suddenly get something wrong with their body, back them momo just a young teenager and not only hard in diet, she was scared about died or alive. in the situation without parents, maybe also didnt talk to close friend in the 7 days,.... I'm really happy that after the 10 days she is healthy now and doesnt have eating disorder. this stupid rule should ban. JYP is so lucky until now there was no any big news in trainee death, traines xxx, otherwise should this call killing? I also dont know.

Well no wonder JYP idols are so groovy which is great cuz that is really what is drilled to them. And the dances that are a thing in 20th century are still alive thanks to JYP and his love for Motown and Michael Jackson and more.

I need MOMO,s will

I'm impressed by this comment section. Wow👏

Sana Nani😂😂

2nd 😙😙

2nd sha sha sha

10:36 dahyun

We will never call Tzuyu "Sally" here in the US.😂

@Soufriere84

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think we'll ever call Mina "Sharon" either even though she _was_ born in Texas and it _was_ part of her name. BUT, if Tzuyu ever decides to change her stage name to "Sally Chou" for whatever reason, then I hope Once would respect her choice. Same with Mina. I doubt either would happen, but you never know.

@elezhahudson2977

2 жыл бұрын

@@Soufriere84 I would definitely respect it if it is their choice but i feel like "English" names take away their culture and I never understood it anyway.

❤️❤️

How does this banning system work? Cause they say they've got banned multiple times. How does one manage to be taken back?

ice cube? bro thats fvcked up 😢

They wouldn’t find it so funny if they knew the most likely reason for their short heights is the extreme diet imposed on them at an age when the body still growing and developing...

@Soufriere84

2 жыл бұрын

They are overall average height for East Asian girls. Some like Tzuyu are much taller than the average. Only Dahyun and Chaeyoung are below average, and not by much. Even those two would tower over a normal Korean woman in the North.

What’s the name of the show in the first video before the intro

hahahaha q buenas historias!!!

Does anyone have further context on what they mean by "banned"? 12:09