TRUE LIES - 4K UHD BLU-RAY Review
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my thoughts on the new 4K remaster of True Lies.
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To this day the bridge explosion scene is some of the best miniature work ever done
@robvegas9354
3 ай бұрын
100% agree.
@slate49
3 ай бұрын
It’s real! The bridge was blown but after a new highway way built. It was big news back in the day. I’m sure you can find a newscast on it somewhere on KZread.
@BubblegumCrash332
3 ай бұрын
@@slate49 the bridge is real but the explosion and truck flying in the air are miniatures
I saw "True Lies" in theaters when it first came out. A couple of months later, I was able to watch it in 70mm. That's when I was going, "Oh, there's the stunt double! That's Arnold! Now, it's the stunt double again!"
@StultifiedGraphics
3 ай бұрын
Watched it again yesterday, and agree with you, Really noticed it this watch hadn't seen it in maybe 10 years. Also watched the terminator movies again too, Cameron makes some awesome movies, but realising in these movies even T2 stunt doubles were way to obvious.
@The_Big_Blue_Bug_of_Justice
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, there’s some genuinely shoddy wig work for the stunt guy in this (I think it’s Peter Kent again). The snow stunts at the beginning look particularly obvious. Along with most of the fights on the island towards the end.
I’d rather have the grain than the DNR.
@Blink_____
3 ай бұрын
Entire generations have already been raised on DNR, unfortunately. Studios are gonna keep doing this crap.
Cameron’s technical revisionism is the opposite of film preservation. As a movie enthusiast and collector I think it's simply unacceptable. Good review, thanks.
5:07 Wow, I can’t believe they didn’t digitally composite Arnold’s face on the stunt double like they did with Terminator 2.
@schwartzy65
3 ай бұрын
Before it was hidden in the shadow and since the stuntdoubles (peter kent) face is similar and the hair it looked great... Now its overy lit :/
@Rschr101
3 ай бұрын
It's noticeable on vhs too
@austinwillcut4919
3 ай бұрын
That's just something you have to deal with when you watch old movies.
The worst part of the AI upscaling is when it re-draws facial details like pupils, pores and wrinkles. It's very unsettling to watch
"This is not blowing my skirt up gentlemen."
@SleepExports
3 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised no one is asking for deleted scenes. One of the few movies without them, and one of the few movies it would be most interesting to see.
Thanks Arnold’s stunt double for giving us that sick horseback chase scene
Very well said Oliver. This release did not need AI.
I did my own upscale of my blu-ray and I enjoy it way more than this official 4K release.
Jamie Lee Curtis in 4K😍...... yes please.
@leewright1
3 ай бұрын
Tia Carrera and Jamie Lee bitch fight 👍😉
@halomultiplayermoments3651
3 ай бұрын
Ohhhh yes 🤌👌👈
Just wanted to say I'm grateful for your reviews, and agree that the AI smoothing looks bad. What a shame.
True lies on the laser disk had one of the first Dolby digital soundtracks
@dvdmike007
3 ай бұрын
Yep not long after the first, Clear and present danger
@neiltaylor6645
3 ай бұрын
@@dvdmike007 known as AC3 then
@Channel-io1di
Ай бұрын
I just watched it on Amazon prime and the whole time I was thinking how incredible it sounded. Massive deep bass, clear dialogue, crisp.
Now you gotta make a review of Aliens on 4K… …please.
Seeing Arnold’s stunt double was the very first thing I noticed, and how frequent it was (like you said). As much as I still love the film, seeing his stunt double so much was way more distracting than the transfer (which I don’t love but don’t mind)
@rockyl9120
3 ай бұрын
Agree it was very distracting. It was like Harry Tasker in the movie has someone do the hard work for him as he is too pampered, then he pops up at the end saying job done guys!
James Cameron's films are on an express Ai elevator to hell, going down...
James was like "Only I can fuck up my film's tramfers."
Btw, the Jet Scene at the end of the film is mostly a mockup (when it's not the actual jet), with some cgi compositing. I'm pretty sure it was featured on Movie Magic, which was an HBO show that ran in the early-90's. I think they're even here on KZread. Edit: Movie Magic was on the Discovery Channel. Look up: "Movie Magic - True Lies - Motion Control Technology"
I had no idea 9/11 robbed us of a True Lies sequel. That honestly sucks.
@Rschr101
3 ай бұрын
Not to mention the 3 thousand lives lost that day, subsequent invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq that went nowhere, and the Patriot Act. But yea, a True Lies sequel wouldve been great😂
@Channel-io1di
Ай бұрын
Don't forget the real tragedy, the final level in Spiderman 2 the video game was altered, and altered significantly!!1
Wow great vid thanks for the info you just reminded me why I subbed to you years back very to the point and informative while not being boring I fall into the group of being able to notice these things but I don't go crazy over it and although not the ideal version I think you still upsold it I will upgrade to this version as soon as I can afford it keep up the good work brother
"it looks like a movie shot on digital cameras" yet and that is what Cameron wants. He is a revisionist director.
@dnasty312
3 ай бұрын
Not like Georgie boy though
Yea I agree with the review, this and Aliens looked so weird in this new 4k transfer, I just can not justify the 24.99 price tag
Another 4K collection update in the near future? Love seeing your collection videos
Arnie as a actor is the finished article in this picture.
Enjoyed watching! For these home video release videos, any chance u could include a roundup on what u think is the best format of watching them? eg "2022 Fox Remaster" had no AI upscale/aggressive DNR
Thx. Subscribed. Films filmed on film should look like film. 4K video & audio shouldn't be compromised.
The new found 35mm scan of Terminator 2 is so fun to watch. I'd take that over the 4k releases anytime.
Back when a trip to the movies was usually a treat
@Rschr101
3 ай бұрын
Instead of a political statement about how evil straight white people are.
It's sad that Cameron only seems to care about Avatar sequels and re-releasing T2 for the hundredth time, but can't be bothered to give the rest of his body of work the respect and preservation they deserve.
@p331083
3 ай бұрын
Infuriating thing is the T2 4k release suffers from the exact same problem! And that was release a year or two ago now. You would think he would have learned his lesson, but nope DNR everything.
@d-d-i
3 ай бұрын
And he's also wasting his talent with Avatar movies, while he could do something different as well. Don't get me wrong, Avatar movies are good of course, but he could do so much more different stuff.
@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984
2 ай бұрын
@p331083 Just think what's to come. The ringing endorsement with these new 4K Hybrid versions of True Lies, Aliens, and The Abyss. Now Cameron will turn his attention to The Terminator and T2 with A.I. tools applied. The future looks bleak.
@Justdisco2
2 ай бұрын
Avatar made him his first Billion dollar movie after tax, Not including Titanic and way of the water sequel made another billion or so, so I think his works have been in the N zone since 1984, He’s the only director working now that a studio would easily give a billion dollars to make a film.
@FervAnimalLover
2 ай бұрын
He endorsed and supervised these transfers to 4k
Saw this film on its opening weekend at the Empire Leicester Square had to fill in a form how much we liked it or not
@OSW
2 ай бұрын
Ha! Noice. Do u remember what u wrote?
@neiltaylor6645
2 ай бұрын
@@OSW not really nearly 30 years ago 🙈
I hated when I started noticing the stuntmen😢
@LukeLovesRose
3 ай бұрын
Everyone knows they're stuntman. We just ignored it and avoided it
@bened22
3 ай бұрын
I hated it in Flashdance with the "stunt"dancers. Immersion ruined.
@LukeLovesRose
3 ай бұрын
@@bened22 You're being too sensitive. It's a movie. They have to do certain things. They've had to do those things since the beginning of arts and entertainment
@bened22
3 ай бұрын
@@LukeLovesRose Maybe you can sit besides me the next time I watch the 4K and whisper into my ear that I have to stop being sensitive. I mean isn't that what watching a movie is all about--being told by someone what you are supposed to feel? ^^ Look, I know why they had to do it and I still prefer the 4K over older formats. But it DID take me out of it, period.
@LukeLovesRose
3 ай бұрын
@@bened22 Do you understand what I said?
This is one of my fav Cameron flicks and it’s been forever since I’ve seen it! I think I’m still gonna pick it up
i would like to see the full screen version. if its like the T2 VHS release it utilizes the original negative to show more vertically and less horizontally. its basically a different version of the movie. this is not the first time Cameron has done this either. The sound effects for The Terminator on the DVD are redone. Especially the sound of the semi auto that the T-800 uses to kill the first Sarah Conner.
Brilliant analysis mate.... Subbed. 😊
According to the people who worked on this remaster, they only had a badly kept negative to work with. They had to choose whether to upscale an old transfer, which would've kept the saturation and other flaws of the old transfer or clean up the film they had as authentic as possible. They chose the lesser of two evils. I do wish more studios would remaster their footage in the way the Peeping Tom 4K was given. They had to find more than one copy of the original negative to help clean it up naturally and used no AI. I'm guessing with True Lies they couldn't find more than one copy or it wasn't in the budget to do so. I still like the transfer, I do have a double feature DVD with Mr and Mrs Smith & True Lies and may get the Spanish Blu-ray just for the special feature on it to have the choices but at the moment I'm satisfied
Great video, Thank you 🎉 ..rarely mentioned UK Original VHS is CUT 😮 similarly DVD was CUT in selected releases..!??
Props to Arnold for bringing out an entertaining performance when James Cameron was ruthlessly making him hold in his piss just to complete a shot for this movie.
Favorite movie in terms of lighting, although in many scenes due to update the 90's orange look very colour corrected like Dominic Senar well done, a great video definitely will purchase this.
I hate that Cameron has dedicated the rest of his life to pumping out forgettable Avatar sequels when he could be making movies like True Lies.
@Hulksterx
3 ай бұрын
Agreed, nobody will remember Avatar in the coming decades for ANYTHING other than "ooo looks pretty" "B-b-but it makes a Biwwion dowwars" Yeah, so does Fake dogshit.
@user-ky3kj7pw4d
3 ай бұрын
James Cameron doesn’t owe you anything. He can dedicate his life to whatever he wants.. Also “pumping out” is a hysterical word to use when it took almost 15 years to release ONE film.
@gamestation2690
3 ай бұрын
@@HulksterxWhy do you think they did make so much so much money?
@-Perene
3 ай бұрын
@@gamestation2690 Because people are dumb and consume any BS. JC is an idiot for other reason: ruining transfers of his best movies. T2, True Lies, The Abyss, and Aliens. All awful on their respective home-video releases. Grain removal, AI processing, teal, green filters...
@thefanwithoutaface8105
3 ай бұрын
@@user-ky3kj7pw4d Actually yes he does owe us. We consumers buy tickets to his movies, buy the DVDs and blu ray, the merch, everything. If it weren't for us, he'd still be living out of his car surviving on Macdonald's coupons.
Saw it in the cinema, it was great fun!
I have the Spanish blu-ray
I've tested AI tools for many years and I can honestly say, that their main issue is the fact that they remove any grain from the picture, making things have this wax-like quality. Or then they try to add some details to some stuff where it shouldn't be, like, adding grainy vegetation texture to smoother kind of plants. Some AI tools have options to add some artificial grain back, but it's not the same, since it has already altered the image too much. And editors don't know how to use them well so far, it can be used to enhance bad focus and stuff like that, but it requires very specific workflow, sort of multi-layered process. Generally though, I always think that with old 35/70mm movies, they need native 4K scan, scratches/dirt removed and HDR10 applied to make the colours and blacks look spectacular, that's all they really need. Let's hope that these Cameron's movies will someday be published as that as well by some 3rd party movie label.
I remember in it's theatrical run the indoor scenes had a misty look to them. Movies like The Last Boy Scout and Point Break had that same look. I'm thinking in a hand full of scenes the mist was digitally removed.
Bought it. Enjoyed it.
6:34 “She even took the ice cube trays out of the freezer! What kind of a sick bitch takes the ice cube trays out of the freezer?!” I’ll agree to it being funny and I loved it since I was six years old Oliver so this film along with a lot of others are the reason I love movies so much.
the DVD was also non anamorphic means it would look awful on a 16x9 TV
@suttercane6
3 ай бұрын
My German DVD is anamorphic and uncut.
@ThisIsTheRoad
3 ай бұрын
German Special Edition still looks pretty great, I'll stick with it over this crap. Even has bonus material.
@JB0071051982
3 ай бұрын
@@ThisIsTheRoad Just picked the German DVD pressing myself. Looking forward to viewing all of the bonus features, especially the deleted scenes.
I own the 4K disc and didn't notice any of these issues, but I'd only seen the movie once before on standard definition NTSC broadcast TV decades ago, probably panned-and-scanned. I didn't notice that stunt man, either, but now that you've pointed it out I'll probably never not notice that.
At last, since 2017, I've wanted this movie to come to Blu-Ray, waiting for James Cameron to give them the Greenlight to release it!!! Funny enough, Brian Johnson had demanded that True Lies be released on Blu-Ray.
When viewing this 4k version it seemed to me that the picture was oversharpened and upscaled from 1080p. But the movie is so fantastic that it is easy to just enjoy it and be thoroughly entertained.
Great review, well spoken. It's sad the word of mouth was mixed on this from the get-go.
Great review! It's really sad that if Cameron really was so involved with this remaster end then this ends up being the result. Anyway, will there be a review for the 4K-version of 'Aliens'? :)
The UK DVD in 2003 had some cuts for violence so the USA version was my preferred edition back then. It did get out uncut in 2008 though. Same thing happened with Eraser, the BBFC were pathetic back then.
If you know where to look theres a 1080p 35mm scan around 20gb
It is a fantastic entertaining movie. Was amazing on the big screen. Me and my friends at school went to see Speed and we talked about that for ages and agreed nothing is going to top that. Then True Lies dropped it we went to see it about 5 times.
For its 30th anniversary should release it in theaters too.
5:07!! What!!! Arnold couldn't just run and reload in that shot!?!?
Having owned a copies of the Blu-Ray release from Spain and the old DVD, this 4K beats them both. I realize some people have issues, but it looks amazing to me.
Great review. Glad to hear the truth being spoken about this disc. This format is only being bought by enthusiasts so it’s annoying it’s been ruined this way. The Spanish Bluray is a pressed disc it’s not a BD-R so I’d recommend it. There is some kind of loophole law in Spain apparently that allows it to be released on the likes of Amazon. It’s got some interesting extras on it as well from the premiere. James Cameron is asked what his next film is and he says “Spiderman”. I’m gonna stick to that and the laserdisc.
I was just watching this over the weekend and laughed at how obvious the stunt double is during the snow chase now in 4k. 😂 Such a good film though. This was the first Arnold movie I saw in the theater, as a kid.
I watched it last night and Jamie Lee Curtis’ face ages from 11 to 35. It’s an odd one and I totally agree it looks like a digitally shot movie with very, very little film grain. Didn’t spoil our enjoyment and the Atmos soundtrack is very immersive.
What I find ironic is that Cameron made the Terminator films which show the dangers of what AI can do. He’s even claimed in recent years, “oh, I tried warning you guys back in the 80s and 90s!” And yet, here he is taking away the potential greatness of the look of these movies on 4K by being a hypocrite. It’s just so odd to me. Do I hate the way they look? No. Could it have been a lot better? Most definitely.
Amazing movie and a masterpiece by James Cameron love it 4K
I think I'll stick to my VHS on my crt.
I'm assuming this release has the violence that was edited out of the DVD (in UK at least)? It was noticeably different to the VHS.
@byronlaw6491
3 ай бұрын
The U.K. DVD accidentally got released uncut. If you get hold of a copy with the old school BBFC 15 logo on the disc it’s the uncut one. This 4K has nothing missing also.
Own the DVD and just purchased through ITunes at a great price
This film is a certified classic, one of the best action films of the 90s. Arnold at his best!
Like watching cartoon characters w reality background/scene 😂😂😂
I feel like there's that weird blue-ish filter from all the recent Cameron remasters. I'm not a fan...
I was looking forward to getting this one but as soon as I heard the first bad review of the picture quality, I held off on preordering until further reviews. Once the further reviews confirmed my reservations, I was quite disappointed to hear this but also relieved that I did not purchase the disc. Maybe Cameron will fix the blemishes that everyone is complaining about or maybe he won’t. Until then, I’m hanging onto my old special edition DVD.
I watched the regular BD from this set (a friend sold it to me because all he wanted was the 4KBD). It doesn't look horrible. But it's definitely fallen victim to excessive DNR and the characteristic cyan bias of James Cameron films is there. Really many of these films like Terminator, Terminator 2, The Abyss, Aliens, True Lies... These should have been done by boutique labels without Cameron's messing with them so that they stayed true to the original. Then you can include all the extras, the original audios and whatnot. One of the biggest issues I have with Terminator on Blu-ray is that it doesn't include the original mono audio track. Like how hard would that have been to include? You don't even have to make it a lossless track, just put a lossy Dolby Digital track on there it barely takes up any disc space. Even a lossless DTS-HD MA mono track would probably take up barely any space.
Idk I got used to the old look, and it really set the nostalgia just like how I remember
Still haven’t seen anything like this in The States.
What about the quality of the blu ray that comes with it?
@user-fu1mx4hv6z
3 ай бұрын
The picture quality on the blu ray is better
That dance scene
Its ironic that Cameron seems to have embraced a Skynet attitude towards art, aesthetic and reality.
Damn Cameron wtfdidnt you use Tia Carrera as the wife and James Lee Curt as the succubus?!???! Otherwise not a bad flick .
I for one cannot wait to buy True Lies in 4K
What a shame. I have the Spanish bluray you mentioned briefly. Would you say I'm best just sticking with that? I'm not 4k ready anyway, so would only be getting tjis 4k for the 1080p disc that comes with it (and to future proof myself).
@Vintage9x
3 ай бұрын
I would say hold on to that until a superior re release of this movie ever happens. A scan of the 35mm of a theatrical print is also online too which is good.
How's the Jamie lee Curtis dance looking in 4k?
Ill just put my Mentiras Arriesgades Disc in... :)
03:53 God.. he looks like cg.
While watching the film, I had the impression that the actors had faces made of plasticine😢
The skin smoothing and Ai sharpness is horrible. Amazed you were able to sit through it
Man I loved this movie. Reminds me of all the times I went to the movies with my dad back in the 90's to see every action film that came out. He was divorced and didn't care about R rated flicks hah
I know word has been going around that they didn't go back to the camera negative for this release and instead used an unreleased older master but nothings confirmed! It's a shame this version has so many issues!
i had never seen the movie due to it not being on Bluray so i had no idea what the original creative intent and i really enjoyed the film but some of the face smoothing especially in the first half was just obnoxious. its a shame really because some sequences look absolutely brillant!
Having a 4k bump is a more enjoyable experience than noticing the grain is missing or skin too smooth. Having a keen eye for these things can be a detriment to only you, and watching this on a huge tele with the sound to 11 is fantastic experience
@halomultiplayermoments3651
3 ай бұрын
Exactly dude. Most reviewers are very negatively slanted rather than enjoying having a 4k release. Like people who pick plot holes in movies or complain things are not realistic in movies rather than just enjoying the movie 😂
@mickbanner
3 ай бұрын
I 100% get the criticism he's making. They should have tried to find a balance of grain and less AI... but there's still no way I'm choosing to watch a lazerdisk over this 4k bluray
@byronlaw6491
3 ай бұрын
For £25 tho it should be an accurate presentation of the original cinema showings. For people that enjoy this type of thing streaming is the option. It’s mean to be an enthusiasts format as we basically are more or less the only folk buying it. The public haven’t even heard of Bluray in most cases. Not being rude here by the way just annoying this release isn’t what it could have been for the money.
@mickbanner
3 ай бұрын
@@byronlaw6491 completely get your point. I'm happy there's a 4k version available to me despite its flaws. So reluctantly this would be the version I'd suggest someone who hasn't seen it. So I guess... the best version that exists. But yeah... they've maybe gone too far and it isn't technically the original version
I was really disappointed when I watched this in 4k but the last act looked better... then I realised that I forgot to change discs after finishing the extras lol. so hopefully when I watch the 4k disc it won't be as bad but somehow I think it will be.
Did Stargate ever get better after DVD?
Fort it looked fab. Better then 2001 dvd
The Spanish Blu-ray is actually fine. Snap one up while you can.
Its NOT a 4k scan at all, its the old scan upscaled, like you said its super 35 and that should never match and it does
Are you going to review the 4K-UHD, Blu-ray release of, “Aliens,” next?
"this movie is not that old" Oliver... this movie is 30 years old we are old now... :(
Damn, you can really see the AI filtering :( :( - it's not ready for feature film remastering yet
I'm guessing TrueL 4K is now Uncut in UK.?? ABYSS VHS and DVD always CUT in UK = No 4K UK release..!!? ..AFAIK
There is tons of these entertaining action movies with Stallone, Bruce Willis and Shwarzenegger, all top notch, but, without me being able to explain why, I think True Lies are above the rest, more filmatic qualities than others, perhaps except Conan and Die Hard
Cameron apparently hates film grain so no doubt he approved smoothing True Lies to within an inch of its life.
I've already got it but haven't watched it yet. I had heard about the AI upscaling done and only plan to watch the HD copy and not the UHD copy. If it's like Aliens, where it's the 4K version just downscaled to 1080p, I'll be disappointed.
I was annoyed they did'nt include the interviews shot for the aborted blu rays of True Lies and The Abyss in full on these new 4K's