"ALIENS is back! And this time.... IT'S FOR TEAL!"

@kubrickenigma7977

2 ай бұрын

[soft clap]

@johnmellor932

2 ай бұрын

Quality.😂

@nx1379

2 ай бұрын

UHD quality zing😂

@SquidkidMega

2 ай бұрын

Grain over man….grain over

@kubrickenigma7977

2 ай бұрын

@@SquidkidMega [louder clap]

The irony is they remove the grain just to eventually add the grain. The Alien 4K visually surpasses this in every way.

I'll stick with my 2010 blu ray or quadrilogy DVD

I have the quadrilogy and anthology boxsets, but I don't think I'll make the jump to 4K releases anytime soon.

Its a real shame Cameron dropped the ball hard when it came to giving Aliens a proper 4K transfer. Instead of doing an actual restoration of an actual film print, he instead upscaled the old Blu Ray master, DNR'd it and AI sharpened it to hell, slapped some weak HDR on it and called it a day. If Alien can get a proper remaster, its no excuse for Aliens to not recieve the same treatment.

@Kacpa2

2 ай бұрын

Yeah its beyond lazy. Its almost bordering on stupid treatment of OG Star Wars films.

@johnmellor932

2 ай бұрын

To be honest as a film maker, if I had to keep revisiting a film I made 40 years ago I'd be sick to death of it by now too. Aliens had it's run and he probably just wants to move on, same with the Abyss. Aliens is known to be Cameron's least favourite film technically , he hated the film stock or something and how it printed.

@realshompa

2 ай бұрын

Let's hope for a private scan of a negative like the Star Wars 4K77.

@gasti_musri

2 ай бұрын

Aliens blu ray> 4k aliens

@revolverswitch

2 ай бұрын

he just hates film prints with a burning passion for some reason.

I was fortunate to see it on 70MM on my 21st birthday back in 2019, I can definitely say the 4K version does not look like it’s theatrical counterpart.

@jonfreeman9682

2 ай бұрын

I saw the original in cinema back in the 80s when everything was shot on film and it was great. Some of these high res versions lose that celluloid feel of film even though they are shot on film.

@ericstaples7220

2 ай бұрын

That's because they denoised it with A.I. It at the very least has more detail than the old bluray that has film grain. So that is good.

@citizen3000

2 ай бұрын

@@ericstaples7220 the previous one with film grain is better

@EP3mentalist

2 ай бұрын

​@@ericstaples7220I got the Blu-ray set a couple of years ago, I thought the picture on Aliens was really good

@CianODonnell

2 ай бұрын

Me too in IFI theatre in Dublin years back with an introduction by Michael Biehn

Thank you for clarifying the reduced detail on the faces. Many blu-ray reviewers on KZread seem to dodge this issue or outright deny it when you tell them. I felt they're all paid by Disney to give a glowing review.

@ApolloT-vp5dn

2 ай бұрын

Reduced? The detail is significantly improved on the 4K

@personatodo

2 ай бұрын

@@ApolloT-vp5dn yes there are artificially enhanced details but some of the faces in the medium shots is softer than the original blu-ray. This video has already proven that. Don't deny it.

@ApolloT-vp5dn

2 ай бұрын

@@personatodo This video didn't prove anything. There's just as many videos showing the detail to be enhanced. Having watched the Aliens 4K disc this week, it looks fantastic and it's the best the film has ever looked.

@ZZ21zx

2 ай бұрын

@@personatodonot all improvement is artificial. The blu-ray version by itself downscaled the scan, and a lot of details were missing in blu-ray.

@personatodo

2 ай бұрын

@@ZZ21zx In the case of Aliens it is. The use the A.I upscale technology by Peter Jackson's team and it resulted in soft faces in some shots and in the worst case like True Lies the depth of field gone haywire because it can't determine between motion blurring and out of focus background and characters. The only movie that works well is actually The Abyss which is the best of the 3 transfers. You want real filmic quality and detail on the blacks, look no further than the first Alien in 4K. I watched it recently in the cinema and it's gorgeous, retaining the filmic quality and super fine grain.

Just a shame this is what we gotten. 4K releases should be really better made in the end. Shame. Really sad to hear Oliver so negative about it. I had the same feelings with it. This is also the reason why I hardly upgrade from Bluray to 4K Bluray.

@Oneaphelion

2 ай бұрын

Anthology bud, best its gonna get.

@jonfreeman9682

2 ай бұрын

That's cause the original never had that resolution so it uses digital enhancements but it loses that celluloid feel. But the picture looks pretty good but maybe we remember it nostalgically?

@Slashingthrough

2 ай бұрын

@@jonfreeman9682 You do know that full 35mm frame would have 5400 x 3600 pixels, right?

@bonjovi7399

2 ай бұрын

@@Slashingthrough People think "analogue old analogue bad" for some reason

Thank you for the review. Whilst I understand James Cameron wanting to tinker with his films, I do think that a lot of the time, directors, editors, colour editors, do get caught up in the hype of a product, and think they have to turn up everything to eleven. We see this so often with films, particularly with HDR, with films like 2001: A Space Odyssey, and Akira just over doing everything. I work as a photographer and one of the biggest things I have learnt over 20+ years, is that you don't have to use every tool you have, particularly in post processing. This is one of the hardest lessons to learn as you always want to show how good you are, but often it backfires.

@jonfreeman9682

2 ай бұрын

George Lucas did the same thing. He went back and improved a few things as digital technology weren't available at the time and some fans didn't like it but it's an improvement but feels off for fans who remember the original. Directors who are passionate about their projects is what makes it so great so it's understandable they want to go back use modern tech to spice up their classics. IMO the first 3 aliens are masterpiece in space horror and the little enhancements are just nice touches to what is already brilliant works of art.

@bonjovi7399

2 ай бұрын

@@jonfreeman9682 THX 1138 improvements are pretty good becasue they blend in more. Apart from the shot of a CGI animal that appears midway through the film. Same with Empire Strikes back. Little touches to expand sets. It's when they start to add things that just don't fit like plastic looking CGI aliens

@THEremiXFACTOR

2 ай бұрын

I think also they're desperate to pander to younger modern audiences, by making it look like it was shot digitally last week. They needlessly seem to want to update the film so it fits in with new releases.

Glad you covered the previous releases in such technical detail and relieved to see a more sceptical response to this one. Compare a CU of Jonesy from the BluRay with the same shot in the 4k. So much detail in his fur that was baked into the grain on the 35mm print has been zapped. Using AI upscaling literally means the PC is making guess work of details. Not my cup of tea.

@ailigimmo9668

2 ай бұрын

Glad You included A3 as well....perfect trilogy in my opinion :)

Damnit James, everything doesn't have to be teal.

@Nicholas_Chen_

2 ай бұрын

He can’t help it it’s a habit by now.

@ghostviggen

2 ай бұрын

Abyss was very teal on film.

Decided to stay with the Blu-ray on this one…too bad.

Omg, i just watched your True Lies vid and asked for a comparison/buying guide, and that's exactly what this is! Thank you! Super helpful

I fully agree! I would have been very happy with an actual restauration of the original negative, with image problems and all. Is the original image soft and grainy? Great, I'll take it! I want to have the experience of somebody in the cinema in 1986 just with the advantage of modern digital distribution so I can see all details of the master and stay at home. That's 4K for me.

Very good review reflecting my thoughts almost completely. 👍If we had a choice between Cameron's new preferred version and a version that's true to the original I wouldn't complain but this is (technical) revisionism - the opposite of film preservation.

Wow, thanks Oliver for your 4K review. I'm sticking with my blu ray version. You just saved me some money!!!

@ApolloT-vp5dn

2 ай бұрын

He's wrong though

BR of aliens still looks great in my opinion so i will hold on to it

I wish they'd take all the noise reduction money and put it into punching up the dropship crash rear projection scene. It's so effective, just a little contrast change on the background would make it blend in so much better.

A very concise and well said review. I'll stick by what I said about the Blu-Ray release over this 4K Hybrid version. True Lies had issues from the past, but I was less than impressed by the overall look of the film. Aliens has been revised to such an extent with the application of new A.I. tools that you can't ignore the elephant in the room. Unfortunately many people are ignorant and prefer riding the wave that this upscaled 4K Hybrid is an improvement when Aliens certainly isn't an improvement. This is a regression backward with film restoration. Hollywood is pushing hard with this technology, and Cameron plays along to promote this abhorrent technology. Now the flood gates will be opening to past films having the same techniques applied. Shocking! But don't tell that to the dumb asses who buy into this.

Great to see that you and I agree about how Aliens looking rough and ready. Its supposed to grainy.

Also - wow - in those completely untouched clips the purple lighting looks amazing! And James Cameron *doesn’t* want that look??

@AleksandarBloom

2 ай бұрын

Purple looks abysmal. It looks like a tv movie.

@STTPMASFTNE

2 ай бұрын

I agree. The original 35mm print looks fantastic in terms of color. Love the purples and dark blues. No idea how Cameron thinks teal looks better than that.

@jackmalloy2869

2 ай бұрын

The purple-blue colours from 35mm looks amazing💙💜 8:51

Were you aware that you have released this on Alien day lv426! 26th April, bravo 👏

@dnasty312

2 ай бұрын

My best friend and I are going to _Alien_ tonight!

@markevayne

2 ай бұрын

Have a wonderful time, jealous 😅​@@dnasty312

@Right_Said_Brett

2 ай бұрын

That would be 264 in the UK.

Really clear and concise presentation, I've subscribed! Watched Aliens in 35mm cinema print which was nostalgic and amazing, I don't see anything beating that experience. In terms of a home entertainment version, I only have the DVD from the Quadrilogy, so I'll defo be upgrading to the 4K regardless of any bad opinions or reviews. Thanks for the heads up.

Love your channel. And your content. This is the greatest film of all time.

@ifnotyouthenwho

2 ай бұрын

I watched it in two vhs sittings when I was 13/14. I couldn't watch passed the arrival at Harley's... It absolutely ruined my sleep for weeks.

@idiot_city5244

2 ай бұрын

Doesn't even come close to the original haha, get real

@jakebiomask

2 ай бұрын

Bollocks ​@@idiot_city5244

@jonfreeman9682

2 ай бұрын

Totally agree. IMO the first 3 aliens are masterpiece including David Fincher epic conclusion that deserve more love.

Very happy with this purchase. I felt like this was the best of the 4K release from Cameron.

@wdunn06

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r

2 ай бұрын

Its the "best" until you start looking on closer inspection. Once you start noticing the problems its hard to say you paid your money's worth with this transfer.

@ApolloT-vp5dn

2 ай бұрын

​@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9rWhy do I need a closer inspection? You're over analysing

@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r

2 ай бұрын

@@ApolloT-vp5dn Because if you look closer you'll notice the bad noise reduction and waxy faces. Not worth the 55 dollars bud

@ApolloT-vp5dn

2 ай бұрын

@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r None of which is evident whatsoever. You're talking nonsense.

Thank you for your honest, as always, review. I did buy True Lies on 4K and had a laugh of some of waxiness. Owning Aliens on Blu-Ray I think I'll stick with it.

Wow, I'd love to see how it was originally presented. Hopefully one day when they have exhausted making films looking pristine they should release the original raw releases.

Always appreciate your thoughts on films.

I've just bought the 4K Blu-ray as I'm a huge fan of the movie and definitely love my physical media. It still looks good to me in 4K and I really appreciate the way you have compared the different versions of the movie in your review.

such a classic - looking forward to revisiting this on 4K

Disney should recall the 4K-UHD, Blu-ray releases of both, “Aliens” and “True Lies,” so they could fix their original, film quality with grainy, HDR.

@LukeLovesRose

2 ай бұрын

Another reviewer says that the movie has grain. It's just super fine

@catfishhornet

2 ай бұрын

They are not recalling sh*t because it's a subjective transfer, not a technical error. You might dislike it, some people love it. Disney just can't cater to everybody. The only person they can cater to is James Cameron...obviously, this is how he wants his film to be seen, and fans and reviewers that hate the transfer will just continue crying forever since this is the last physical release we will see of this movie.

@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r

2 ай бұрын

@@catfishhornetI mean is it wrong that we have criticisms about the look? This is Aliens after all

@BornslippyZ

2 ай бұрын

Disney is in the middle of transferring the disc duties to Sony. Which imo is a good thing.

@realshompa

2 ай бұрын

just wait for the 8K transfers.....

Gawd I hate when they change the tint colours, this happened with Batman and Terminator, I'm like I might as well put my VHS on at this point, just keep it pure to how it was, funny I'd rather watch the laser disc version you showed, over the 4k version, you're spot on about the faces, meh I have the quad blu rays thats good enough for me.

How are you showing the 35mm print scan? Where is that from and how does one watch it like that?

As an audio and movie enthusiast, I was really wondering about this release. As I found the 30th Anniversary edition was a great transfer. Great review, well done.

I want to get the new 4K upgrade, but should I also get the old 2010 bluray? I wonder how the 2K bluray that comes with the new release compares to the old.

You perfectly highlight my annoyance with all these 4k re-releases and that's the outcome of making it all look digital. To me that just makes it look like CGI. The shot of the lander flying over the colony looked terrible. Its just too clean.

@jamiejoe4802

2 ай бұрын

The best 4k remasters are Robocop (it still has film grain and looks phenominal) The Running man (has film grain yet it looks like it was shot yesterday, the deep reds give off an A24 vibe and adds a new layer to the atmosphere) Dawn of Justice

I can imagine there might be more physical releases in the future. They’ll probably be one Alien 4K box set collection & maybe one more in 4K on a physical format the size of a GameCube disc before that dystopian all digital future where we own nothing and we have to like it that way and bow down to our megacorporate overlords!🤣

I have the dvd, blu ray and the 4k of Aliens, i think the normal blu ray has the best look overall and sounds better then the atmos track on the 4k disk. I like also the 4k version its a clean sharp picture, but i think it could be done better with more effort. Maybe the grainy look of the blu ray with 4000 nits hdr is the best version of all, if that exist.

Happy Alien Day! Love the review. Thanks!

Watched it in the cinema in '86. I recently got the cinematic release dvd. Still chuffed. Great review.

@jonfreeman9682

2 ай бұрын

Same. To me it's the greatest space sci-fi horror of all time even to this day. I was amazed when I saw it back then in cinema and still now there's nothing that comes close. IMO the first 3 aliens are masterpiece of cinema including David Fincher epic conclusion which deserves more love.

I always thought Aliens was a really dirty transfer (where Alien felt cleaner) Not sure if it was just my VHS. Anything updated 2010 onwards is welcomed

04:09 Thanks for posting images from the 35mm film print. The color saturation is stronger on film in my opinion.

This is like a DFIC review in 10 minutes 😂. I am super curious about the 4.1 and 2.0 audio mixes. Do we know if those are included with the 1080p presentation in the new set? Is the 1080p the new or previous transfer.

It’s really cool and the only time I’ve seen a comparison to the original 35mm! I really like when movies are restored to what they looked like in original 35mm, but completely changing the look does bother me… instead of restoration, it’s changing how the film looks.

I actually liked the 4K release overall. Yes, there were a few scenes that had noticeably waxy faces. But there were more scenes where the textures were much more defined. My only real gripe with the transfer is the brightness level. It's frustrating because I think the Blu-Ray was too dark and muddy. But now it is on the other end of the spectrum. That said, I think I like this version the best. There simply is no perfect version. The most accurate was probably the DVD, but then you are limited to DVD resolution and DVD sound.

This must be some sinister conspiracy, because nothing explains why these people think worsening the picture is better. I can't think of any other reason and it makes me scared.

The Abyss seems like the best transfer outta the three new 4K releases :-)

I'm still on the fence,, some of the images of the 4K do look atrocious but I suppose the only way I can really judge it is if I experience it myself. I will wait for a price drop. Thank you for your honesty.

@ApolloT-vp5dn

2 ай бұрын

Looks great in motion to me. How often do you watch a movie in still images?

@user-le4sm4wd1e

2 ай бұрын

@@ApolloT-vp5dn A fair point but any waxyness of skin and mainly the general lightning of the film image puts me off. I will purchase it at some point and hope that my fears are put to rest. 👊

That new box art is awful. What an eyesore.

@Oneaphelion

2 ай бұрын

not even hot garbage, its just trash

I saw lots of people having the movie on streaming services complain about wax faces and smudges while the DVD 4k has still that super nice grainy effect. The only complaint i have is the BASS its like stripped almost i had to increase the bASS level of my subwoofer to the max ! BUt the audio is SUPERB !

Great Review!

How long before we get AI-generated reviews of AI-generated movies?

@nathanworthington4451

2 ай бұрын

Said Disney

@alienboy1322

2 ай бұрын

Oh god, I hope that never happens.

@pineapplesand556ers

2 ай бұрын

And being watched by AI.

@markusvesa2763

2 ай бұрын

Never, i hope.

@alienboy1322

2 ай бұрын

@@markusvesa2763 Here here.

Amazing review, thank you.

I just got the 4K it looks amazing , I was running it on a ps5 , the only thing I will dig it for is when the rear projection shot are used in the movie

If it isn't broke, don't fix it

The sad thing for us who use digital stores. The 2K version has been "upgraded" to the 4K version.

Hey, how did you get Abyss, you're not to supposed to have that in England?

I was just just watching your Alien Resurrection review and noticed this on my recommended page. Funny coincidence.

Alien 1979 in cinema this weekend. Oh yeah!

Game over man. Game over!

I m still happy with my Definitive Edition on DVD.

Idk, looked amazing to me tbh...

@ApolloT-vp5dn

2 ай бұрын

​@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r Step outside your echo chamber

@ApolloT-vp5dn

2 ай бұрын

Yup... the film looked fantastic in 4K

@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r

2 ай бұрын

Its a waxy and oversharpened mess of a transfer. Not worth the price at all

@ApolloT-vp5dn

2 ай бұрын

@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r Only if you haven't watched it. Which you clearly didn't.

#SupportPhysicalMedia

Never get enough of this one 😂❤👽🥶

What kills me is that the colony in 'Aliens: Dark Descent' also went for teal, too! 😂

The AC-3 disc is the best looking by miles, mind you seeing the 70mm print it looked nothing like the 4k or BD

I’ve seen Aliens many times. VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray and Streaming. Honestly, though, I thought the 4K disc was pretty good and my new favorite transfer. The details and sharpness in certain scenes are unmatched. Is it as good as Alien on 4K? No, but then again, that transfer is a work of art and one of the best restorations ever made. Still, I think most people will be happy with Aliens on 4K.👍🏻

0:55 "Aliens was a big hit back in *1996* " Wait you meant to say, 1986 right?

just got notice your aliens is here to pick up weekend saved^^

Which is the one that is on Max (HBO Max) now????

3 GODDAM CLASSICS !! FINALLY ! Althoug I totally agree that Abyss is the holy grail here !

I love the OCP opening

I’ve bought Aliens more times than I can count. Glad I can pass on this one 😆 thanks for the review

I recently re-watched my Blu Ray copy of Aliens just a few months ago and remember thinking to myself “wow, this looks really good!” It’s so strange to think even in the commentary track Cameron made (in 2003?) he comments on how heavy the grain was, while I think in the Blu Ray the grain looks perfect. So I guess James Cameron has always hated film grain and will stop at nothing to remove it all. Which is a shame, because a clean digital image just feels to sterile and soulless to me. Also I have to wonder if all this “AI” talk is just buzz words? How are these AI tools any different to sharpening and noise/grain reduction techniques in the past?

All of James Cameron films look great in 4K..!!! He did an excellent job!

gotta get this!

I really like the 4k, but, as soon as there is the slower/less action shots of faces, you do see the "Fine line wrinkles are there.....gone again, oh and back again" I think the perfect release would be the 4k, but just ease off 30/40% on the DNR.

I might be in the minority, but I much prefer the theatrical cut of Aliens. Seeing the colony before the Marines arrived just ruins the atmosphere of the film.

It'd be good if you noted what type of screen you watched this on. I loved watching this on my 4K Oled, especially the optical effects that look so much better on the 4K. They always pulled me out on the bluray. I still own the Bluray but I'm going with JC on this one. Appreciate the review though.

This whole tampering with the color started with the Wachowski brothers and making The Matrix look green like parts two and three instead of the original blue

It's extra crisp and high resolution. Enjoy it for the detail. I will still keep my bluray copy

I am mainly commenting because I constantly love it when you slip in a personal opinion or annoyed sound in your reviews; specifically your groan during your updated Dune (1984) review when you mentioned the year the film takes place, and in this video, when you at first say that we should respect Cameron's decisions on his modifications of his films, and then adding how annoying it is. I love it! As to the film itself, I hate it. However, I love James Horner's music, especially when he gives it a Penderecki sound when they are searching for survivors. Brilliant soundtrack, and often more interesting than Goldsmith's music for the first film.

Great review, and what a shame. Have you reviewed the LotR UHD editions? There are scenes in the UHD that have dramatically less detail than the Blu-rays, even to the point of erasing a distant Legolas from a shot.

The 35mm color and contrast looks better than anything on these digital formats. The bluray is really nice thou...just wish it could be adjusted a bit towards the 35mm look..

Was looking forward to this release but it sounds like the first release to T2 on 4K, hopefully they remedy it on a subsequent release, didn't like the waxy look on the 1st gen T2 4K transfer.

I bought the Quadrilogy book and I’m glad

I got the special edition of aliens on dvd that came out in 2004

Even to this day I still own the Alien Quadrillogy box set. I honestly prefer it over any 4K

@tomole79

2 ай бұрын

Same. As far as the documentaries like Superior Firepower go I prefer the Quadrilogy DVDs to the Bluray transfer. They were resized from the 4:3 DVD aspect ratio to 16:9 which makes some of the shots look like zoomed in

@oranmccann2476

2 ай бұрын

@tomole79 While I admit Blu-Ray does have its benefits, I always prefer DVDs because of the authentic quality. I also liked that on the DVD, the documentary is split up into individual chapters, so it is easier to watch

@edbaiza7757

2 ай бұрын

Amen Oran!!!!!!!!!

@oranmccann2476

2 ай бұрын

@@edbaiza7757 Thanks

Laser disc, lol. But I agree with you 4K version looks too clean. I have seen Alien in 35mm a few times at the New Beverly Cinema.

Love this...

After watching 35mm scans of Aliens, I can say that no release manage to recreate the theatrical look of Aliens. It’s just to bright.

Err...got the 2010 version quad but also the Fox 6 film Blu-ray with covenant and prometheus dated 2017...?

The transfer looks mega wank mate. I don't care what Cameron wants it to look like, this is a level of tinkering too far.

Yes it looks different, but I still thought it looked really good. The new 30 minute interview was great, it reminds you just how multi-talented Cameron is and I wish he didn’t dedicate so many years just to Avatar.

Happy 4/26!

I kinda agree with you, but imo, on my setup, this was a leap. Especially in sound! Parts of Aliens I agree with faces having a sheen. But the HDR and contrast between light and dark scenes win me over. I do like the Blu-ray, and I agree with the grain presence but the contrast imo don’t look as good. And cool you actually answer why I like the 4K, the OG 35mm film JC used wasn’t good, he admitted that. And I saw in 35mm in 1986! JC isn’t doing the Lucus Redux on Starwars, so to me the did right on this disc and I am happy! Happy Alien day folks!

Blu-ray Quadrilogy FTW!

I like film grain 🤷‍♂️

Keeping my DVDs based on this

I think that ever since JC started with Avatar, he lost a bit of traditional cinematic feel of 35mm film. Looking at some of the examples from the UHD BluRay as well as knowing the DVD and BluRay, the treatment Aliens got now, is a bit too much. Like you said, it looks as if it was shot with a digital cinema camera, but lost some of its charme and organic quality. I am not against a better color grading for remasters, but noise reduction etc. is too much for my taste