This is so damn good!

@angelvalerio9746

8 ай бұрын

He approves !!!

@Mattzoni

8 ай бұрын

yeah ! same quality as kings and generals ! i pray to god (figuratively) he deep dives on cosmere after :D also like your channel, hope you get a great setup in the new place !

@eugeneflores6153

8 ай бұрын

Of course it's damn good, it's Robert Jordan's work he is good with his lore, what would you expect Terry Goodkind or Uta Briesewitz work's?

The Trolloc Wars are definitely one of my favorite pieces of lore from the series, I wish we learned even more about them in the books.

This is better than the Amazon wheel of time series! please continue the amazing lore!

@julianlora_

8 ай бұрын

The Amazon series should be considered as a mirror of the wheel.

@alaska4939

2 ай бұрын

@@julianlora_the show should be considered a dumpster fire and be canceled.

It's a bout time the wheel of time series got the love it deserved

So freaking good. Robert Jordan built such an amazing world with awesome history.

Looking forward to the video about Arthur Hawkwing

Top-notch animation! 😁 Especially the military movements! (big surprise /s) Lots of stuff in this video I didn't know (I haven't read the whole Companion). Some thoughts: 1:50 and 18:21 'Aiel' is both single and plural and a loan word from the Old Tongue. 'Aiels' is not a word. 2:10 That no one was able to unite humanity in this time frame does not mean no one wanted to. 2:40 Not a correction, but an elaboration: note that the term 'ajah' dates from the Age of Legends and IIRC the concept of Ajahs as they exist in the Third Age predates the White Tower - both the organization and the physical structure. A correction, not elaboration: Ajahs do not have different tasks, but different focuses. Blues will track down channeling men even though the Reds primarily do so. Greys will Heal despite that being a Yellow focus, etc. 'Task' implies a duty imposed on them from above, but I don't think there's any evidence of that. They're more the pursuit of the shared interests of the Ajah members (which over time gives rise to Ajah rules and traditions, etc.). 4:40 Worth mentioning that another key characteristic of some early Second Age construction is the use of the Power in the construction process (e.g. the White Tower itself). 9:20 Referring to Shadowspawn armies as "force/army/etc of Blight" is unconventional if not incorrect. You could say "army of *the* Blight", but "army of the Shadow" would be more typical. 12:10 Is "left" on the map North? If not, then the geography is off. 14:12 I may be wrong, but I always understood the Shadowspawn army to have crossed the Tarendrelle under fire. That is, it was a contested crossing mid-battle, not a crossing elsewhere that later led to engagement near the bridge remains. 16:44 "A Shai'tan" makes no sense. Shai'tan is the name of the Dark One, not a category of creature or a particular role or something like that. 18:06 (captions) 'Myrddraal' has two Ds and two As, not two Rs. This one can and imho should be fixed. Tai'shar Wizards and Warriors!

@methany8788

8 ай бұрын

Speaking of Tarendrelle, that translates to Waters of the Mountainhome (edit: oops, I messed up here as well. I was thinking "Manetherendrelle"), and is, as pointed out here, the name of the river. If I'm not hallucinating, the capital was simply called Manetheren. There are also some things where I'm not entirely sure if it's fact or just conjecture. The scene where the cavalry is being passed forward is a memory of Mat's, but are we sure that it was, in fact, that final stand? Or is it just a guess that it also happened there? Regardless, I'm also really enjoying this series.

@andrew.m.f

8 ай бұрын

@@methany8788 Yes, the capital is Manetheren. Timestamp for what you're referring to re: Manetheren/Tarendrelle? Yeah, I'm not sure about the cavalry movement.

@methany8788

8 ай бұрын

@@andrew.m.f at 15:14 they refer to the capital as Manetherendrelle rather than just Manetheren. Not a big deal, obviously. Edit: Whoops, I just re-read my earlier comment. No wonder you were confused. I even repeated "Tarendrelle" and still didn't catch it. My bad. That didn't exactly make it better ;)

@andrew.m.f

8 ай бұрын

​@@methany8788Cool; thanks.

@mordyth

8 ай бұрын

Tai'shar

I cant wait to watch the last Battle under MAT in this

@alaska4939

2 ай бұрын

They already ruined Mats character. I have no hope for the Wheel of Time show.

Oh boi!!!! Already lookin better than the amazon series!!! Can't wait for the next one... :) Awesome production as always!

I love that you're doing this, and the Kings & Generals narration style is great here as well. One point of feedback: I have the utmost respect for Devin, who is doing an excellent job as always, but give the man some help! He can't be expected to read the entire series, but help him get the feel across with some information! Minor accuracies (like misnaming Manetheren's capital) or guesswork don't matter that much, but giving Devin some pointers is easy and a vast improvement. Things like saying "THE One Power" instead of "One Power", or pronouncing the word Aiel correctly would be a simple and effective upgrade to your series. Wheel of Time is notoriously difficult with pronunciation, but some names are widely accepted, and you guys have at least one person who has read the series and can help with the general lingo. As for the rest, if you don't have time to go through the script with Devin (fair enough), there are pronunciation guides. Even if they get things wrong as well, at least give it a shot and add the respective entries to important names in the script. Despite the rant, I love that you guys are doing this. See you in the next one ;)

@benpage5088

8 ай бұрын

Jesus what a pedantic fanbase this book has

@methany8788

8 ай бұрын

@benpage5088 indeed, it's terrible to suggest an easily implemented quality improvement. Fortunately, that is exclusively a fanbase thing here. If the Romans were always called "Romaines" in the K&G videos, nobody would care.

@geoffdewitt6845

8 ай бұрын

​@@benpage5088We REALLY love this series. It's the One Piece of epic fantasy.

@torinbrown8196

8 ай бұрын

​@@benpage5088Speaking of pedantic.😮😂😂😂

@georgeeast5502

8 ай бұрын

@@benpage5088 Says the guy with an anime pfp

Dreadlords couldn't channel true power. That was honor reserved for the very top level chosen. Even the 13 couldn't always use it, if the dark one didn't feel them worthy at the time

Great episode! I'm looking forward to Hawkwing, the consolidations, and the succeeding war of the hundred years. 😄

@torinbrown8196

8 ай бұрын

THAT's a no-shitter, eh?!!!🎉🎉🎉

Imagine hating so much the Evil, at the point of creating more Evil... This is Shadar Logoth.

@rainmaker9300

8 ай бұрын

Well to be fair the asshole who corrupted Aridhol was working for another evil being unrelated to Shai'tan.

@andrew.m.f

8 ай бұрын

@@rainmaker9300 ? I'm not sure Mordeth was anything more than a normal human to begin with. Or are you saying Mordeth served some other entity?

@rainmaker9300

8 ай бұрын

@@andrew.m.f It's mentioned in the books that the evil covering Shadar Logoth was similar to the dark one, but also a separate entity. It's why Padan Fain, after coming into contact with it can kill myrdraals and whatnot. Consider it two differnt extra-dimensional evils, if you will. Shai'tan is one, the one in Shadar Logoth is another one.

@andrew.m.f

8 ай бұрын

@@rainmaker9300 That occurs during/after the corruption of Aridhol. Mashadar didn't exist and imho Mordeth was a mundane human prior to Aridhol's corruption. So I don't think it's accurate to say that the person who corrupted Aridhol was working for some other entity.

@rainmaker9300

8 ай бұрын

@@andrew.m.f Could be. I just remember an "extra dimensional" entity being suggested to have something to do with Shadar Logoth. And well...if something causes trouble for the Dark One, it's not exactly a small player. Perhaps Mordeth was corrupted by this other dark entity, or he was the cause of it.

Thanks for this! I love the Wheel of Time.

I would love to see you guys cover the Chronicles of Amber, by Roger Zelazny.

I can't begin to express how many times better this is than that Amazon bullcrap.

Wizards and warriors ❤️🔥. Love and appreciate your hard work to make these videos. We always know it takes a lot of time and hard work to make these videos. Love and appreciation from Sri Lanka 🇱🇰🤝🇺🇸

I love seeing the Wheel of Time books getting more attention!

This should be a good series.

more WOT please! I'm hoping that horrid amazon show may bring people to want to learn about these great books :). My favorite fantasy series in this lifetime.

@ICU1337

8 ай бұрын

1. While season 1 wasnt in any "spectacular" it certainly wasnt _horrid._ 2. Season 2 is absolutely amazing.

@aidan1R

8 ай бұрын

​@@ICU1337yes consooom product. Good bot.

@carlsmith4568

6 ай бұрын

good to hear, I'm almost done with book one so I have a long ways to go before I start watching, but I'm glad iti's getting betterl. @@ICU1337

These video's have been more intertaning. Then the show of Amazon, four episodes in, and not really has happened. Great Video.

Amazon: the lore was optional

@cjclark1208

8 ай бұрын

The ball busting was in fact, not.

@TheVakama112

8 ай бұрын

They’ve honestly not done too bad of a job so far imo. Very subtle with much of it but not ignoring it either.

@collinpearce1771

8 ай бұрын

They have not, all they kept was the names. The stories have nothing to do with one another, they took a monomyth about a man dragging the world to its reckoning and defaced it to a riverdale soap opera with some high fantasy elements.

@jimbob8543

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheVakama112yes they have, the changes that have been made are not to help book to t.v adaptation but to insert there own messaging and identity politics, its a disgrace but not surprising

@Skullnaught

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheVakama112The possibility of Nynaeve and Egwyan being the Dragon is a stupid change and breaks the lore

This was awesome! I read the books years ago, as they were originally published. Must confess that much of the world's ancient history went beyond me. This video, and the last one, really open Jordan's world in a new way. I am enthused to read them again. Thank you!

This is, in my opinion, one of the greatest stories ever told by humankind. Seriously top ten alongside such works as Tolkien's Legenedarium, A Journey to the West, Illiad and Odyssey. Shakespeare wishes he was Robert Jordan. Sanderson's Cosmere, especially the Stormlight Archive, is reaching the same heights but I won't fully judge it until it is over.

Fascinating stuff! I've never read the book but have been watching the show on Amazon so this is pretty interesting.

So Ishmael spent 40 years to undo 1000 years of human progress. Well played Forsaken One, well played👏🏽👏🏽And that was just _the one_ General...

@widdershins5383

8 ай бұрын

There’s a reason they went from what would be considered a futuristic society back to sword wielding rock throwers lol

oh my god you are doing wheel of time :D

Excellent video as always. This channel is so great

Fascinating time in the history of the world of the Wheel of Time. It's a shame we didn't get more of it in the books, but understandable

I really like this channel.

I have been asking for this since the first vid on this channel. Tyvm

The best video I have watched so far covering the wheel of time 🥺✊

Really enjoying this series. Thanks

Love this! Well done

Whens the next installment of the Alternate History Series coming out?

Great job guys

Thank you for your first Age and this video

Epic video, thank you 👍🙂!!!

Love the WOT history vids… I’ve been a book fan for years! Keep up the good content sir. You scratch my itch better than the show lol

Please do a Henry V survives series after you're done with the mongol one

@haldemarest

8 ай бұрын

Its going to be set in the ancient world so no chance.

Delaying aid to the most powerful of the 10 kingdoms out of jealousy is utterly shameful. Bit it does show some people, even powerful people, can make terrible decisions. (This was brilliant lore building on my opinion)

Thanks!

The maps are so cool!

I'd say phrasing it "channeling one power" is a bit wrong, it'd be "channeling THE one power". also Aiel is pronounced Eye-eel not Eye-el.

Great video . I believe in the books it’s referred to as “THE One Power” not just “One Power”

mountains of doom gee how creative

@geoffdewitt6845

8 ай бұрын

Lol it's actually spelled "Dhoom," and it's objectively funny.

First off Aiel is pronounced eye-eel, not isle, also their not nomads, they have settled towns called holds

Would be awesome if you could do a history of the “Forgotten Realms” ! Elminster saga or R.A Salvador’s “ Drizzt Do urden “

Love this

Yes finally!

Hmm that map looks pretty familiar I wonder if Robert Jordan had any particular inspirations

@geoffdewitt6845

8 ай бұрын

Are you referring to Lord of the Rings? 'Cuz Jordan enthusiastically loved Tolkien.

@HallyVee

8 ай бұрын

Not to mention the many similarities in the first book.

Wow. Thanks for this video. What I've always wondered is what happened to the other continents? The books are supposedly placed on our Earth. Well, we have 7 continents. During the breaking, lands rose and fell. Are we to assume the 6 other continents fell and no longer exist?

@KnittyElf

7 ай бұрын

The Seanchan come from the west, so there are definitely other continents. If I remember correctly, there’s also a southern continent that has a lot of male channelers. People are warned not to even sail close to it.

Can you do a lore on all of the Amarlyn seats and their greatest feats?

Hi! Just wanted to let you know that Mabriam was never the Amyrlin Seat, she was the Queen of Aramaelle. Aside from that, great video!

Pls continue Mongol Timeline

Should have put this video out before Amazon made their show. Maybe they’d understand the importance of respecting the lore

love it

drop the next Gondolin video.

When is the next alternative history video coming out?

0:56 there’s something oddly familiar about this map

You have t o do the Malazan Empire, that one has battles aplenty

what is the origin of Machin Shin?

So, basically, humans won this war by pure luck, and in spite of themselves. Right?

@timidalchemist8475

8 ай бұрын

Which is a theme of the series. A lot of the characters specifically those chosen are bound by the wheel itself to stop the dark one/darkfriends.

@iitim2152

8 ай бұрын

It's hinted in the books that Ishameal true plan wasn't the war it was a distraction so he could sow the seeds of the black Ajah, and establish cells of dark friends. Critically he destroyed nations intentionally that has Aies sedia on the throne. All the battles of men and monsters are only subtext... To win the Dark One has to corrupt the Dragon. That is the only way he can truly possess the world.

@aze94

8 ай бұрын

More like humanity outlasted their enemy; the enemy had 40 years to win against the Westlands before their general had to return to his prison and they failed.

@TheRezro

8 ай бұрын

@@aze94 What is interesting is that they actually did have horrible strategy. At any time they could be cut off and surrounded. But cowardly and petty leaders refuse to cooperate.

@aze94

8 ай бұрын

@@TheRezro If you mean the trollocs then I would argue that the strategy improved slightly when Ishamael was leading them as he actually concentrated his forces, but the tactics did not as he was completely indifferent to losses on his side.

Tbh I prefer is y'all did hour full lores like previous middle earth ones

👍👍

Can you guys do some Dungeons and Dragons Lore and also some Warhammer 40k Lore.

@geoffdewitt6845

8 ай бұрын

Which D&D setting are you interested in?

@Revanchist

8 ай бұрын

​@@geoffdewitt6845 The Planescape setting would be really cool.

@dkt2365

8 ай бұрын

​@@geoffdewitt6845Dank Sun

@geoffdewitt6845

8 ай бұрын

@@dkt2365 Hmm...that's a tricky one. Lots of folks love the setting, but not a lot of lore videos out there. I'd check out Alphastream (Teos Abadia) or Jorphdan.

Wheels of time could be a good Total War game if they have a decent unit roster :P sort of like Warhammer

"...to channel One Power..."? Clearly, no one at Wizards and Warriors have read a single Wheel of Time book.

Mabriam en Shereed was not the Amyrlin Seat but Queen of Aramaelle, as well as being an Aes Sedai and ta'veren. She used diplomacy and negotiations to forge the Compact of the Ten Nations and is regarded as the paragon of the Grey Ajah, the Ajah devoted to diplomacy, negotiation and law. No doubt she had the support of the White Tower in her efforts, but she there is no indication that she did so because she 'could not conquer all of the 10 nations.'

Hopefully we can get a video on Artur Hawkings exploits. Edit: Five minutes later I see the next video is about Hawking.haha

When the "side of light" starts getting comfortable in its place as an objective good, they become scarier than any demon king because they have the possibility to know better.

Poor Aemon, he did so amazing! Condamning a whole population cuz of jealousy, omfg!!!

Weep for Manetheran

Really weird how names and places are pronounced here. Also, the voice sounds quite robotic. AI?

Having no choice, she resorted to democracy. Omg! That is so terrible!

The map kinda looks like North Africa

Eldrene couldve destroyed all of the shadowspawn army if she just ran in to the front lines

@hehe-mq2bk

7 ай бұрын

for real

Holy shit

Aiel - Eye-eel

HODL!!!

4:23 what in the ai art

@johndoe6737

8 ай бұрын

Is it ai or just wonky

This was better than the show.

The thing that bugs me the most about the Wheel of Time lore is the geography/geo-politics. 10 kingdoms turning into 25 entirely new kingdoms is strange to me.

@brattpack

2 ай бұрын

We've seen similar happen in our world after certain key events. Colonialization is one. The 2 european wars for another. The US could easily have been split in 2 after the american war.

@jivkoyanchev1998

2 ай бұрын

@@brattpack Its not the same. During colonization another culture was replaced with a different one through conquest and slavery, while in the Westlands kingdoms pop up and disappear seemingly at random. One day there are 15 and the next there are like 25. There are no large scale migrations or conquests by outside forces we are told about. And what the fuck do you mean by the "2 european wars"?

It's mind boggling that a KZread channel can be more accurate to the story and more entertaining than a billion dollar corporation spending 10 million dollars an episode!!! Amazon you played yourself.

You should listen to the audiobook to learn how to say the names. It's kinda weird hearing them pronounced funny. Kinda ruins the video for people who have listened to how Michael Kramer and Kate Reading say them. It's Aye-eel and Moun-etheren.

This is riveting stuff, I'm discovering this IP and i can't it's so good and yet the show based upon this work is so boring.

@torinbrown8196

8 ай бұрын

Then read the whole series. It's riveting at times!

Bruh

204

The treachery of women is never to be under estimated. 😈

Man good content but holy shit with those pronunciations

Like to lore. HATE the map. No logical or Rational thought went into making them mountains.

It just seems miserable. Like no matter how many times Humanity over comes something, they still slide more and more into decay. Which is ridiculous considering the level off technological innovation they had in the First Age. No matter how big a collapse may have been, when you have endless lightbulbs and instant teleportation and magic it should be a matter of decades before everything is fixed back to where it was.

@andrew.m.f

8 ай бұрын

Some of those things probably rely upon the 'standing weaves', which were destroyed in the Breaking and may require men to re-establish.

@MDP1702

8 ай бұрын

A breaking of the world as it is portrayed really messes things up hugely. It lasted generations on a worldwide scale from what I understood, with most artefacts, knowledge and established civilization lost. Most people with the higher knowledge/abilities sacrificed themselves to save as many others/what was left as possible, likely giving up their own lives in the process. And also don't underestimate what a devastating generations long war can do too.

@adamnesico

8 ай бұрын

A massive drop of population causes a massive drop of knowledge and infraestructure.

@MDP1702

8 ай бұрын

I also would like to add that yes, there was a large population drop, however due to the constantly changing circumstances in landscape etc, resources like fresh water and reliable food supplies were difficult to find for a long time, so there was also fighting for those and that mindset would likely have remained engrained for quite some time, even fighting over such resources after it wasn't necessary anymore.

Enjoyed the books. Not so much the show.

regular reminder that the Red Ajah is garbage

Just never mention the (abomination of a) show and I'll live every one of these videos, the show better be showing a different universe that's not the main universe from the books.... still a bad show but might redeem it some...

Northern westlands should be arid surrounded by mountains and Sharaa should be greener due to the winds patterns. Most humankind has died, theres plenty of free space>Servants of the powerful wizards goes to hellish dessert for no reason. You face an army of minotaurs with no bows. You usually combat them though guerrilla tactics. How do u face them. Horse archers, who are fast and away from their melee weapons? Nah, better spearmen that they can smash easily. The motto that nothing joins more than a common enemy strangely doesnt applies in Aridhol. You face an army who menaces to wipe the continent. Nah, better enable the best army opposing them to die because you envy their queen. Yes, we can deduce how things went in Aiel wastes, trollocs died of thirst. The lore of this franchise is so nonsensical. A critic say this series proof that bad fantasy sells well as long as u plagiarise Tolkien.

@MDP1702

8 ай бұрын

Northern westlands usually are portrayed as pretty desolate from what I remember. We never got much information about Sharaa. The Aiel were chased out of the westlands before they really became the strong force they are in the series, and stayed there due to tradition/'religion'. By the time aiel started to shape into what they were, the powerfull wizards were spread out or gone, focused on their own problems/people as a whole. Also those wizards too were seen in the 2nd age as serving everyone else. And thus so were their servants. Trollocks do use bows actually sometimes I think, but usually they use their shear mass more to pressure the opposition. They are also so strong that arrows aren't as effective, but they are used regardless. Also horse archers are useless if you need to maintain a line, can't give up ground and stop them. In the last battle these are actually used effectively during their constant retreat where they could give up ground. Spearman make perfect sense to battle an opponent like trolloks. Aridhol was being corrupted by someone else from the inside, a bit like Theodon in Lord of the Rings. That corruption entailed to not trust anyone else, they didn't even really trust eachother near the end in Aridhol. Ie. paranoia took grip of Aridhol. Human stupidity knows no bounds, as can envy. All your criticism or just stupid.

@adamnesico

8 ай бұрын

@@MDP1702 With desolate u must mean depopulated, maps always portray them as prairie. Another nonsense is that they are so depopulated. All maps portray Shara as mostly arid and desert. In fact is an abvious contraction of Sahara. Shouldnt be with its position. Then this video is misleading, it doesnt mention any conflict that expulses the aiel. Trollocs dont see stronger than elefants, arrows are effective against elefants. You dont need to hold a line with horse archers. Oh yes, beter enable the troloc to kill some men be4 dies instead of kill it from safe distance. A wizard made it? Fair I guess. Real life example of people making the same stupid thing? My criticism in geography and warfare is legitimate. Are u a talifan who acrtically accepts every nonsense as long as u like the story?

@iamfilam2513

8 ай бұрын

Way to demonstrate ignorance of the lore, human nature and history.

@adamnesico

8 ай бұрын

@@iamfilam2513 if im mistaken, proof it.

@iamfilam2513

8 ай бұрын

@@adamnesico Sure. In order: 1. Your assumptions about wind patterns are based on assumptions about things like: planets distance from the sun, its distance and lunar orbit, it’s rotational axis, etc. This is an anecdotal fallacy: you’re assuming that since it’s not the same as earth, it’s therefore incorrect. To say nothing of geographic anomalies created by madmen wielding powerful magic. 2. Aiel ancestors (Spoilers) were carrying weapons of mass destruction and were pacifists, they were not wizards.and were seeking isolation. They were being raided by looters and survivors, and so sought isolation. Again, ignorance to the lore. 3. Horse archers take time to train, and are expensive. If you need to field an army quickly, you’re bringing up levy spearmen, since spears are easy to use, cheap to manufacture and in large groups effective. Civilizations like the Mongols benefitted in that their culture generated excellent horsemen and archers naturally, but even they relied heavily on levies from subjugated populations. Again, you’re ignorant in history. 3. They literally became the evil they were fighting. It’s not about Aridhol turning on their allies so much as becoming so evil they killed themselves. Ignorance to the lore 4. Take a look at the majority of politicians today, or historical tyrants, who sacrifice the wellbeing of their people or nation for personal gain or personal vendetta. Plenty of people make bad decisions out of pettiness. Ignorance to history and human nature. 5. Again, the books confirm that the Trollocs are killed off by the Aiel as well as the harsh environment. This might be the only thing you said that was partially correct. Ignorance to the lore. 6. This is an opinion, which you are of course entitled to have. Just like my opinion that your opinion is a sad attempt at being contrarian to sound cool or smart, but ultimately looking ignorant and a killjoy 🤷‍♂️

Ai Sedai was so useless! Due to their stupidity and politicking

Hell yeah my favorite series

Man.....nice story but this dude was not imaginative in his naming conventions lol.

The 2nd season is even better than the 1st was

@jimbob8543

8 ай бұрын

Are you joking?

@artemo.shapovaloff5577

8 ай бұрын

@@jimbob8543 no

@jimbob8543

8 ай бұрын

@@artemo.shapovaloff5577 have you read the books buddy

@jimbob8543

8 ай бұрын

@@artemo.shapovaloff5577 even if you haven't its a bad show

@artemo.shapovaloff5577

8 ай бұрын

@@jimbob8543 haven't read yet, but got that in my close reading list. And yep, I like the show as a whole, except for some characters and obvious bugs of the script.