I will always have a RMR on one of my pistols, mostly because I rounded out the screws and can't take it off now.

@fr8cture

Жыл бұрын

Good luck replacing that battery when it dies.

@zakadakka8928

Жыл бұрын

@@fr8cture But it will always be there.

@Lfm2113

Жыл бұрын

@@zakadakka8928 unlike my father 😔

@lordofentropy

Жыл бұрын

@@Lfm2113 I'm sure the closest store was out of milk and he had to go to another, he'll be back soon.

@Lfm2113

Жыл бұрын

@@lordofentropy 🥹🥹

The 4 year ruling comment got me. Unexpected humor is always appreciated. 😂

Appreciated as always. A lot of great information couched in sensible banter. Always a favorite. :)

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

Hey whats is that in the front protecting your RMR whats the name of that i need one !!!

Glad you mentioned having pistol optics on rifles. I got a Holosun 509t for my pistol and I quite disliked it for many of the reasons you described (except that it's closed emitter). However after taking it off my pistol and slapping it on my rifle, I love the thing. The consistant positioning of the face negates any difficulty acquiring the dot. And its truly life changing to have a 2-4oz optic+mount on top of your pencil barreled AR.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you all the way. And I don't really notice any sort of performance difference between the RMR and a more traditional rifle option, personally.

Have you considered ceramic coating for the lens to help with water

Think it's kinda like the ACOG of pistol dots - great if you have it, but there are much cheaper options available now that do the same job that are also often better in at least some aspect.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

I very much agree!

@stephen_crumley

Жыл бұрын

The Dual Illuminated RMR is literally the ACOG of pistol dots

@hjorturerlend

Жыл бұрын

@@stephen_crumley Very true, but I'm talking about the ACOG just not being $1.000+ better than the 5x Vortex or PA 3x Microprism.

@chltmdwp

11 ай бұрын

​@@hjorturerlendglass quality says otherwise

Basically answered my questions about the RMR as a soon-to-be pistol owner with a Holosun 507cx2-LMNOPQRXTUV. Great video as always Penguin Man!

The greatest GunTuber strikes again! When's the next podcast or livestream? I keep your older videos on repeat while I'm driving in the car

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, my friend! We've recorded a podcast, but it's crazy long and I haven't edited it yet.

Is it really worth DOUBLE the price than the Leupold Delta Point Pro? (Leupold gives discount to active military, LEO, etc)

So it’s a few years old? I guess it’s time to retire ALL Winchester and Marlin lever actions because they are getting dated too 🎂

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Throw em in the trash!

@williammocaby

Жыл бұрын

Wouldnt throw em away, would take them into conventional battle either

Is that optic guard/plate from radian?

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

It's a CHPWS, I think.

Switch to a Holosun EPS because of dust and shirt lint filling my optic and blocking the emmitter . Enclosed optics are the future and Trijicon refuses to catch up to everyone else making them

I think the RMR is a bit dated. I still went with it for my 45c though just because I've never been let down by the RMR in the past. So when I got my slide milled, the RMR fills that space. I've been eying the 507C-GR-X2 though. That green Vulcan reticle is nice, after I got to play around with one the other day. I do wish Trijicon updates the RMR. Side battery tray would be nice for starters. I personally don't mind open emitter though. This is for an concealed EDC after all and my 45c isn't much of a "compact" despite its name lol. I don't consider the RMR to be top dog anymore though. But it's still a tried & true option, if albeit a little long in hte tooth and over priced now given what the competition offers.

You know what I got that riton prd2 on my 17 and I actually like it better than my rmr. The site picture is much more clear 40k hours of battery life so far it's stood up to some punishment and harsh weather. I'm honestly thinking of switching out the rmr on my other pistol.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@magicd5780

Жыл бұрын

​@@thegunpenguin btw I didn't know you had the Beretta 1301 man that's one shotgun I'd love to have!

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

It's excellent!

I've just recently wasted money on another Holosun for the RMSc cut, only to turn around a month later and order a whole new slide and setup for an RMRcc. Maybe it's subconscious snobbery but I just don't feel like the Holosun pistol dots work well *for me*.

@spaceman063

19 күн бұрын

Perhaps it is just you!

@ericw8464

19 күн бұрын

​@spaceman063 take notice of the last 2 words in my response

1:21 in and I’m laughing my ass off !!!!

Lmbo this is informative and hilarious definitely subscribing

Is that Glock performance trigger

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

It is!

Your cat won't attack me, would it😢?

Yes but only because of its' open design. Close it up and it's back to being top tier. There's a few other things they could do but that's the main thing. It's like the Holosun 510 - great optic just needed to be closed up.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Definitely. In 2023, closed dots seem to be the future. And the glass certainly needs an upgrade. It's quite bad.

@XxxAtlantaxxX

Жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin the issue is price. Holosun 510 is great for quality, solar, green emitter and most importantly price. How much do we have to pay for better glass is the question.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

@@XxxAtlantaxxX Many of the cheaper competitors have superior glass. Yes, they're made overseas, but very little optics glass is produced domestically. Trijicon buys from a supplier like everyone else, and has a tendency to rest on their laurels. It doesn't mean that the RMR isn't excellent, but it could be better. From a business perspective, as well as it sells, I can't fault them for leaving it as it is, but I'd like to see some innovation.

@XxxAtlantaxxX

Жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin Holosun made me ditch the American Made only mindset. I'm not spending more money if I don't have to. American companies need to be more competitive and maybe I'll be go USA all day. But that's another video for you to make.. 👍

@weezem

5 ай бұрын

​@@XxxAtlantaxxXholosun rubbed me the wrong way with their terrible warranty. You definitely get what you pay for. I'll stick with trijicon, eotech and aimpoint.

I stick with Eotech and Trijicon because they work and are American made. I absolutely refuse to spend my cash with a company that's based in a country that would happily watch America burn. It's been my experience also that Trijicons are also near bullet proof.

@chltmdwp

Жыл бұрын

Eotech is definitely not all US made unlike Trijicon

@spaceman063

19 күн бұрын

Then give up your other stuff such as tik tok, apple phones, components that go into damn near everything you own lol!

I still haven’t shot a handgun with a slide mounted dot. I feel like a cave man.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

I've personally found dots to be very useful, but perhaps not the earth-shattering game changer folks claim them to be. But you may have a different experience! All that to say, don't feel too left out.

I think I’m gonna transition to carrying a revolver

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Can't go wrong there! I'm a fan myself.

Blue tint is to enhance battery life.

Mabey. Yet that dog still hunts.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

I agree! It's dated, but still the one I feel most comfortable with, by far.

@lasombra120680

Жыл бұрын

@thegunpenguin ngl... have one on my FNX45. I had to do the Sage Dynamics trick and smash it on some reloads lol that alone, worth it.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Nice! I've enjoyed the FNX45 every time I've gotten to shoot one. I wish my 509 was as nice.

@lasombra120680

Жыл бұрын

@thegunpenguin I enjoy my 509T, going to Apex the trigger though to see what's up. Mine has been gritty even at 1.5k ish rounds. My only real gripe.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they never seem to smooth out! It's strange.

Get a Holosun 508 or 509. Same footprint, more features, less money.

If your not on a budget. Trijicon stands alone.

@spaceman063

19 күн бұрын

Whether you are on a budget or not should never dictate your reasons for picking one or the other!

Reliability is the principal reason I plan to stick with the RMR until its competitors can meet the same performance standards.

@jg-ub4ek

Жыл бұрын

They have though? Check out the sage dynamics white paper on red dots. Rmrs fail just as much as the current holosuns

@jg-ub4ek

Жыл бұрын

There's other reasons i can understand going with the RMR, but reliability certainly isn't one of them. Not sure if i just have bad luck but I've had 3 separate units fail. Trijicon has fantastic warranty service but after the 3rd I just gave up on it.

@XxxAtlantaxxX

Жыл бұрын

My RMR seems to be solid. I don't go out torture testing but I think they're pretty solid if installed properly and no ridiculous BS is going on.

@jg-ub4ek

Жыл бұрын

@@XxxAtlantaxxX Oh I don't think that it's a shitty unreliable optic, I just think people (like almost anything in the gun community) have this absolute rabid, unreasonable emotional connection with gear choices. It makes sense cause this is a pretty expensive hobby and we're putting a lot of faith in these working to potentially save our lives. All I'm saying is that people choosing the RMR over a holosun, Aimpoint, SRO or any other decent quality red dot purely for reliability sake is absolute nonsense and there's plenty of data to back that up at this point. Until trijicon decides to actually start innovating, I can't think of any rational reason why anyone would sit down today and order a brand new RMR over pretty much any other red dot. Although I don't think any of the new dots coming out justify getting rid it if you already have one on your ccw gun or if you get an awesome deal on a used one.

@jacobpetersen5662

Жыл бұрын

@@jg-ub4ek Not they don't fail as much... that's hearsay.

Durability is never dated. Sage Dynamics dropped his RMR 40 times from shoulder height onto concrete. The RMR never failed. Name another red dot that can withstand that abuse.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, but the RMR is no longer the only durable option on the market.

@chrisg5322

Жыл бұрын

Look at his mrds white paper. Plenty of rmr’s prematurely failed.

@spaceman063

19 күн бұрын

I believe that sane did the same test on holosun and came back with. the same results, which is a good thing however unless you have spaghetti weak limbs or just stupid clumsy then I don't believe that dropping your gun that many times in a day is reality!

Holosun has surpassed the RMR in durability and features at this point. The 508T ,509T and EPS are just better optics . Side loading battery, titanium housing on the Ts, enclosed emmitter , 3 reticle options and around $150-200 cheaper. Never had a Holosun fail either

@jacobpetersen5662

Жыл бұрын

"Holosun has surpassed the RMR in durability" No it has not.

@fireemblemistrash75

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobpetersen5662 yes it has lol

@spaceman063

19 күн бұрын

And they are battle tested too no!

In 2023 the RMR is a dated design. It’s relied on durability as its calling card. Now that’s others are cheaper and have a better feature set, it’s difficult to recommend.

@thegunpenguin

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's still my favorite, but the gap is closing.

@jacobpetersen5662

Жыл бұрын

What features do you need? I just need a dot and reliability.

@mikeheadless

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobpetersen5662 Better features such as solar backup, side battery tray, and reticle option are solid quality of life improvements.

@chltmdwp

Жыл бұрын

​@@mikeheadless side battery is the only feature that I agree with you. Other features seem gimmicky that I don't need.

@zack9912000

7 ай бұрын

I am selling my HS507C to buy a Trijicon RMR. Quality is all over the map for holosuns