Do you notice, there’s no anticipating exactly what Trigger’s going to say. He was a unique character played to perfection.

@waltmcv

Жыл бұрын

thats the best description of trigger i have ever heard, and perfectly true

@magnificentmuttley2084

Жыл бұрын

Well said, Sam. Spot on analysis of the fantastic character that was Trigger - played brilliantly by Roger Lloyd Pack, sorely missed.

"Alright, Dave?" 😂 heard it millions of times, never gers old.

@adambrickley1119

3 жыл бұрын

Named him Rodney....after Dave🙂

@jamesbentall3984

3 жыл бұрын

There's only one trig

@martinsmith1538

3 жыл бұрын

Too right

@jacob4690

3 жыл бұрын

“To Cassandra and Dave”

@scabthecat

3 жыл бұрын

Fawlty Towers was perfect. Only Fools and Horses made me laugh out loud. Both told characters, not jokes. That's the blueprint.

How the guy playing Trigger manages to deliver his lines with such a deadpan expression is amazing.

@louisah1968

4 жыл бұрын

Roger Lloyd Pack was a fantastic actor, i agree.

@jaggass

4 жыл бұрын

@@louisah1968 Alot of the cast of OFAH said that Roger Lloyd Pack never laughed when doing takes.

@louisah1968

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaggass yes i remember hearing that as well, on a behind the scenes of OFAH ☺️

@bobthebuilder6553

4 жыл бұрын

Apparently nobody on set ever saw him laugh. Love a man like that, just cracking people up with no hint of self satisfaction.

@marygreenway7116

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Trigger was Brilliant , who stole the show , R.I.P Roger Lloyd Pack we'll never see anyone like you again That scene was class.

@ronf1352

4 жыл бұрын

Every episode was a gem.😁

@taefravis

4 жыл бұрын

@@avairybird Because he sadly died a few years ago.

@ManinderSIngh-zi9vc

4 жыл бұрын

@@avairybird are you joking lol? He's a famous actor. It was probably on the news/ he heard it from someone

@elsielord3609

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Borland 8

@poolio_69

4 жыл бұрын

May he rest in peace too...a true gent off the screen too, I had the pleasure to meet him once, he owned a citroen and brought it into where i worked for a service. A lovely man. And a brilliant actor.

Trigger = one of the funniest characters to ever grace the small screen

@dawnfinch8232

5 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha yes

@noelquigley8033

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@Loosehead

4 жыл бұрын

Trigger and Niles Crane, the two funniest characters ever.

@victorvasquez2533

4 жыл бұрын

Trigger IS the funniest

@firstlast3507

4 жыл бұрын

Rest in peace

" 20 years, it's a long time Dave." - " Yeah, it's two decades." "I wouldn't go that far."

@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261

3 жыл бұрын

Are you from Montenegro by any chance?

Nicholas Lyndhurst “People like David (Jason) and myself still have that element of ourselves when we play the characters. When Roger (Lloyd-Pack) became Trigger, you never saw him as anything but Trigger. He was 100% the character”. RLP was such a talented (classical) actor. RIP.

@l1277

Жыл бұрын

I grew up watching OFAH and Vicar of Dibley. Watching him as Trigger, there was no Owen, and vice versa. It's amazing.

Triggers timing was always spot on, I doubt any other actor could match him for the moment he said his lines.

@davidfarmer2049

4 жыл бұрын

yes timiing is all he had it

@derekmcgregor7459

4 жыл бұрын

He's not underrated at all. people know how good the man was.

@nicholasthorn1539

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidfarmer2049 Why ask...?? (remembering Fatal Extraction). Yes his timing was brilliant

@Milamberinx

3 жыл бұрын

@twattybolox he couldn't have had his own series, he needs characters around him who represent the audience. Rodney was the character who represented the audience for most of Only Fools and Horses, but when it came to Trigger everyone did.

@alkaholic4848

3 жыл бұрын

The toast to cassandra and rodney is the one that always springs to my mind

Del - You said it was open 24/7 Trigger - Yeah but not at night... Up there with one of the best lines in the whole series. Timed to perfection 👌🏼

@AlphaJuliett

Жыл бұрын

That and "They're naming him Rodney after Dave"

@annettefowler4704

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@annettefowler4704

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for these videos. 😂

Trigger's logic at its finest in this scene.

@iusedtobecrazy1790

4 жыл бұрын

He is our version of "Čombe" xD

@nizviz

4 жыл бұрын

On par with his medal award for his conscientious brush maintenance; amongst many more.

@robyoung9642

4 жыл бұрын

Trigger Absolute LEGEND

@Tillyard86

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah because if Del said he’d give him a lift, where he lives in relation to the pub isn’t important, and to him the fact Rod- err...Dave doesn’t understand that makes him the stupid one.

@irenegriffiths242

3 жыл бұрын

Loved mr Roger Pact Lloyd in vicar of dibley also, rip you lovely man

If comedy writers can achieve even 10% of the genius of John Sullivan they would be incredibly successful today.

@gezbo66

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. His contribution to comedy in fact to the upliftment of the country was enormous. He died and hardly anything was mentioned about this well, real genius of comedy.. Bless him. Without him there would be less laughs.

@PedPaul

4 жыл бұрын

@@gezbo66 Too true. Literally 99% of the Fools episodes were classics too....

@dogepin1640

4 жыл бұрын

I just think people have moved on, it's all just nostalgia

@BlatentlyFakeName

4 жыл бұрын

BBC cant write comedy anymore. In fact they dont seem to write very well at all anymore. So many shows ruined in recent years.

@johnwilkinson3597

4 жыл бұрын

@@BlatentlyFakeName no but they are incredibly good at hiding peados though 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Ha ha ha ha! Just as you’re thinking “he sounds impressively knowledgable for once” he says “it’s the karaoke version”. Priceless!

"Alright Dave" never gets any less funny even after 40 years

It's the karaoke Version 🤣😭😭😭🤣🤣😂🤣😂 THeres nobody like Trigger!! My favourite character!!

@bal0076

4 жыл бұрын

🤣😄🤣😄

@berbasilk5906

3 жыл бұрын

ur hot dm me thx

@kabes9288

3 жыл бұрын

Was literally just gunna write this 🤣

"and if it's a boy they're gonna name it Rodney... after Dave"

@supersport755

2 жыл бұрын

Trigger’s best line.!!!!

@holeymoley9635

2 жыл бұрын

Ended my days with that one xxxxx

The one advantage of being older, is simply that, you got to watch this and black adder. Exalted times, as they were.

Yes, Trigger is brilliant, but so is Rodney. It’s the silent pauses, the facial expressions and enunciation of words, such as ‘yes’ that get me every time. Not just in this scene, but throughout. OFAH is just an absolute classic comedy.

Trigger is probably one of the most underrated characters in British comedy ever

@shyjames83

4 жыл бұрын

Sure...if underrated is being one of the most quotable and beloved characters in British comedy history

@MarkFrancis-xt7ni

4 жыл бұрын

Hello Dave, the circus is in town... Your ring? P1

@markrich7171

4 жыл бұрын

Roger Lloyd Pack. Absolute genius

@frankspencer6935

4 жыл бұрын

The timing of this was impeccable, second only to....................................................................................... WHY ASK???

@johnlannikk2701

4 жыл бұрын

The underrated comment is fast becoming the most overrated

Just goes to show that British comedy from the 60's through to the 90's was by far the best in the world.

@gmc4342

4 жыл бұрын

Frazer Spence Okay if you are a Nazi racist.

@gmc4342

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Seymour There are more important issues to deal with,like stopping this ghastly brex-shit, and ridding the world of fascist right wing scum. People who watch this low i.q. nonsense.

@gmc4342

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Seymour I hate you

@frazerspence4331

4 жыл бұрын

@@gmc4342 piss off and get a life you sad pathetic loser.

@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED

4 жыл бұрын

So true!

Rodneys face every time Trigger calls him Dave. Lol

@animaltvi9515

4 жыл бұрын

So. What's dave then. Some sort of nickname ?

@jeffebdy

4 жыл бұрын

@@animaltvi9515 sigh... nostalgia

@irenegriffiths242

3 жыл бұрын

Remember when Rodney asked Trigger why do you keep calling me Dave? My name is Rodney, Trigger,,,,,why do they call you that Dave,😂😂

@martinmay8919

3 жыл бұрын

@@irenegriffiths242 Someone mistakenly called me Dave, his nickname at work is now Trigger!

How can anyone be so funny and deadpan about it ?! RIP, Trigger

@sh0352

4 жыл бұрын

Uyi Osa so true

The character of Trigger was a masterpiece of invention and portrayal. In the Classic scene where Del falls through the open bar hatch David Jason gets all the plaudits but Trigger’s reaction is equally brilliant. His puzzled look as he spins round looking for Del is just like the moment after the gable end of the house falls on Buster Keaton in ‘Steamboat Bill Jnr.‘

@ArtyEffem

4 жыл бұрын

If you want to watch an earlier incarnation of Lloyd-Pack's Trigger character, watch Private Shulz. In fact watch it anyway.

His timing was so good in every thing he did.

How they kept straight faces during scripts is beyond me!! Lol.

@grahamd5418

4 жыл бұрын

They did.After pissing themselves during the previous twenty takes lol!

@geoffpoole483

4 жыл бұрын

If you watch the first scene in the pub in "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" Uncle Albert says something and Rodney obviously loses it.

@michaelasquith

3 жыл бұрын

Do you remember, when the Trotters were in a Manor House, and Grandad Trotter unscrewed the wrong chandelier ?. If they were caught laughing, they would have been sacked.

@wendyburgess5805

3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant series, all sadly missed. Good to laugh.. and good to laugh at ourselves. Thank you all, an yes how did you keep straight face, I can't, double up inside.

@thesadnesswilllastforever

3 жыл бұрын

@@geoffpoole483 That's one hell of a parting you got there 🤣🤣🤣

It’s the Karaoke version. This is absolutely Brilliant!!!

John Sullivan was an absolute master at his craft!!!!!!

The writing and performances from all the cast makes this show a masterpiece

There will never be a comedy show better than this. Such a great script.

Trigger was the funniest character in the show. I was privileged to meet him then later his wife and daughter Emily who were as lovely. Such a shame he died.

@peteiswriteingnow

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree they were all brilliant. but with trigger you just knew he would come out with a gem nearly every line. Roger was also really good in the vicar of Dibley, sadly missed

@geoffpoole483

4 жыл бұрын

Trigger wasn't the most complex character in the show but he had some wonderful lines and Roger Lloyd Pack's timing was excellent.

I have been living in France for over 10 years now and whenever I meet a new English acquaintance for the second time, I always say "Alright Dave". To date nobody has got the joke, ... SHAME ON THEM ALL!! Anyway, I don't care, I only do it for my amusement anyway. 😂

@DavidL1986

3 жыл бұрын

Well with me it wouldn't work anyway 😂

@nigelcarren

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidL1986 Alright Rodney! 🤔😂🇬🇧

@psionicinversion

3 жыл бұрын

@@nigelcarren Gary!!!!

@robbrown7592

3 жыл бұрын

That's brilliant, is it alright if I plagiarise your plagiarisation and use it myself?

@nigelcarren

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbrown7592 No Dave... I don't have a problem with that... Let me know if you need a hand putting it in the back of the van! Merry Christmas to you 🎄👍🇬🇧

It's Mozart's Symphony No 38 in D Major...the karaoke version!

Genius writing,genius acting. OFAH is the very best sitcom of all time for a reason. Magnificent,a one-off in an era of outstanding British comedy.

I miss Trigg🙁 and his Broom of 20 years 😂

@guitarHero1885

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@Martyn1999

4 жыл бұрын

this comment is underrated. brilliant mate 🤣

@matte4562

4 жыл бұрын

Look after your broom....

@pdfbrander

4 жыл бұрын

@@robertjohn6104 "I have this broom for 20 years. It's has 17 new heads and 14 new handles in that time. "

@charlc5592

4 жыл бұрын

Robert John no Dave it’s just... look after your broom

I love Fools and Horses and this scene, and simple Trigger but he was clever enough to remember Mozart's symphony number 38 in D Major after being told just once.!!

@josephinebennington7247

3 жыл бұрын

He was even better at remembering the script. Honestleeeeee…. He’s not a real person, he’s a fictional character. You knew that? Ok, you didn’t, forgiven.

@gorse9030

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephinebennington7247 The naivete and outlandish comments from contributors on KZread constantly amazes me. The character is supposed to be simple but I would challenge many of my contemporaries to remember that Mozart mouthful on one hearing, and they are far from stupid. He was out of character in this scene. No I don't take it seriously and in fact have not seen a fictional film for over 20 years as I find them pointless and too long.

@josephinebennington7247

3 жыл бұрын

@@gorse9030 OK Mr Prickly…Gorse. Good name. Trigger wasn’t clever, whether in or out of character The actor who played him and is required to remember scripts in order to get paid was clever. Any there, there far to many class-war inconsistencies in that series.

@marymarysmarket3508

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephinebennington7247 oh brother. Get over yourself

Watched this scene a million times, still cracks me up every time

Timeless comedy that never gets old. Still laugh your head off even after all these years. Pure genius writing

The look on Del's face when Trigger replies with "It's Mozart's symphony no.38 in D Major" 😂😂😂

Remember when you hit your head on the mind your head sign at school trigger? Did you not see the sign? Yes I did… but I couldn’t read 😂😂 classic

There's always that bit of tension or suspense waiting for Trigger to make his next comment. Brilliant stuff.

"In fact You have to walk past the pub to get here" "YEAH BUT DELL SAID HE'D GIVE ME A LIFT"

What a great country we are to have humour like this.

His timing was impeccable. A superb and underrated actor.

Haven’t laughed so hard in ages 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The finishing line was too funny I’m in tears of laughter 😂😂😂😂😂😂

you put a bit of music on Dave?

@Joshua-ce6wz

4 жыл бұрын

Adam Aston literally read this as soon as Trig said it made it even funnier 🤣

@uniquerebeljaney3639

4 жыл бұрын

"Ain't there no words to this Dave?"

I've played this over and over and it's still funny every time.

I bet there is nobody on this world who got bored after watching it 100000000000000 times. Few years ago when I went to Amsterdam for the first time in my life, I screamed to some dutch people "Ajax"! I tried to explain to some people the joke but they never watched tv show.

@Gareth-mv7iy

4 жыл бұрын

Which way to Holland?

Alright dave ?? , never gets old haha

@michaelasquith

4 жыл бұрын

My name is not Dave, my name is Rodney, and people call me Rodney is, because Rodney is my NAME.

@CB-xr1eg

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelasquith You sure? Yea I checked my birth certificate, passport and everything.

@mrmactknife

3 жыл бұрын

"If it's a girl, they're gunna name her Sigourney, after an actress. And, if it's a boy they're gunna call him Rodney,.....after Dave!"

trigger stole the show many times rip

Everyone wants a friend like trigger ❤

IMO Trigger was the funniest character. Considering he started out with just a small part, it is commendable how Roger Lloyd Pack moulded Trigger into a major character. Very talented.😆

@XRioteerXBoyX

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, this show would not have been complete without him.

My favourite character in the show.

0:03 I love Rodney’s bewildered expression. Nicholas Lyndhurst is underrated!

I miss the 90s. The world was a better place.

In America, the model for comedy writing was to have a team writing the script for a comedy, whereas the UK used to be one man/ woman. This is why the consistency is so high on Fools and Horses as it has John Sullivans footprint on it all the way through. Sadly the UK has now began to follow the US model( with a notable few exceptions).

@neilcole9698

4 жыл бұрын

Not quite true about the UK having one person write the show. Most of the greatest or most popular sitcoms ever - Fawlty Towers, Dad's Army, Porridge, Steptoe and Son, The Likely Lads, Father Ted, 'Allo 'Allo, It Ain't Half Hot Mum and plenty more right through to Peep Show - were actually written by two-people teams. Granted, not the US large-team model, but solo writers like John Sullivan were even scarcer than people realise.

@zafmal2935

4 жыл бұрын

@@neilcole9698 Fair enough Neil. I didn't realise that. I would still like to think that it was a fairly small group sitting in a broom cupboard somewhere at the back of Broadcasting House in White City, as opposed to to dozens of people round a large table in a wood panelled executive boardroom.

@neilinely

4 жыл бұрын

Zaf Mal I quite agree. Hopefully that’s how all those partnerships did do it!

@farhatqureshi8562

4 жыл бұрын

@SEAN INGRAM Yes panel shows and cookery programmes. How many do we need ?

@geoffpoole483

4 жыл бұрын

@Zaf Mal Most of the successful British situation comedies were written by duos. On radio Spike Milligan wrote most of the Goon Show episodes on his own. Roy Clarke wrote Last of the Summer Wine and Open All Hours on his own, and Carla Lane wrote solo. Writing partnerships in comedy are probably more successful because comedy is so subjective. Totally agree with you about the American approach.

john Sullivan r.i.p , you will never, never be beaten for comedy, thank you.

He is so missed, God rest his soul !!!! 😪😪😪

When I first saw it at university I thought OF&H was a bit naff.... but looking back ... I was a bit ignorant and thought I knew it all... however, my life has been greatly enriched by this brilliant comedy ... a piece a loveable London with some lovable characters... makes you glad to be alive..🙂

'Yeah, but Del said he'd give me a lift' Can't argue with that 😂

I've always wanted to have someone like Trigger as friend. Mostly because all my friends told me that they have someone like Trigger as friend but i never met him

@MrDkgio

2 жыл бұрын

👍😂

@Laffy-ix5xy

2 жыл бұрын

Good one 😄

A LEGEND IN HIS OWN RIGHT!!!!!! LOVE THIS SERIES!!! THOSE WERE THE DAYS!!!!!

Timeless comedy, Roger Lloyd Pack played Trigger to perfection. Trigger really lived because Roger gave him life and made it look natural. Pure gold.

This scene is a masterclass of comedy timing.

@eddieingalls534

2 жыл бұрын

It is. Sullivan (the writer) does have good scripts but they can be a bit easy to read - only a supremely skilled comedic actor can wait that millisecond more, feint the glance, the look - and then deliver the line to absolute perfection. Lloyd Pack could. The US has Michael J Fox with this ability too.

Trigger was the best the writing was was superb remember the broomstick sketch pure genius

I will never forget these people, they are the best!

Favourite trigger moment, hence my favourite OFAH's moment 😆

But you live closer to the pub than us.....i know......in fact you have to walk past the pub to get to this flat....Yeah. ..but del said he'd give me a lift 😂😂😂

@johnkennethwiseman682

4 жыл бұрын

Class

@ronf1352

4 жыл бұрын

True Brit humour😂

@Ardass486

4 жыл бұрын

Uh

@scotty87able

3 жыл бұрын

Right

@CB-xr1eg

3 жыл бұрын

But why did Del offer to give him a lift if he knew Trigger lived closer to the pub than he did?

I met Trigger, such a lovely man x RIP

Unexpected last line! Nearly choked on my tea 😅😅😅😅😅

@jonnyjoanknecht5164

4 жыл бұрын

Mint

@fabianmckenna8197

4 жыл бұрын

No, Darjeeling actually. 😅

@farhatqureshi8562

4 жыл бұрын

@@fabianmckenna8197 brilliant

@lindashelley3635

3 жыл бұрын

ROBBIE BUNGE Don’t you agree that they are often the funniest lines in any comedy, the ones that come totally out of left field and catch you by surprise?😆

@wendyburgess5805

3 жыл бұрын

Always felt comment from Trigger..., Rodney appears to regarded him stupid, and not worth spending time with, he just comes out with this hilarious, sarcastic? answer...was brilliant.

Karaoke version - when it takes a second to get it and 😂😂😂😂 - awesome!

Perfectly written. Perfectly delivered.

" Are there no words to this then Dave" ? You just loved Trigger !

There will never be comedy writing like this to ever grace our screens again

One of triggers finest moments, walking past the pub to get to Del's and listening to the karaoke version

Trigger had some of the best lines on a comedy in all of history. "It's a karaoke version" 😂🤣😂😂😂🤣. Rolled about laughing at that line and had forgotten this scene! RIP Roger.

I still crack up laughing when Trigger tells Del Boy it's the karaoke version. Priceless bit of humour!😊

Trigger was a legend 👍

Ain’t there no words to this Dave.....classic. Trigger was so funny. Trigger was a legend

“Alright, Dave.” Never fails to make me laugh. Just two simple words, yet Trigger makes them hilarious! RIP Roger Lloyd-Pack.

Classic brilliance all round to cheer up the lockdown blues

Quite possibly the best English TV show of all time.. Rodney's the best in it for me 🤣

@paulfrombrooklyn5409

4 жыл бұрын

It was voted by the British people to be the best British sitcom of all time!

@farhatqureshi8562

4 жыл бұрын

Rodney is the most amazing characterisation ever. Although all the rest were brilliant too

A great straight faced actor ...and present is many of the best sketches ....Del falling through the hatch in the pub for instance.

Del Boy: "What's this?" Trigger: "It's Mozart's Symphony No 38 in D major." (Del Boy looks absolutely stunned to hear this information from Trigger of all people!) Trigger: "It's the karaoke version." Rodney: "Right, that's it!" This kind of comedy genius NEVER gets old. Brilliant! RIP Roger Lloyd Pack. Thank you! 👍🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏

Loved trigger .classic 8th June 2019 still watching lol.

@heimdallwg2112

4 жыл бұрын

26th!

@paulfrombrooklyn5409

4 жыл бұрын

@@heimdallwg2112 You are an asshole Stop announcing what number comment you are!!!!!

Arguably the best program ever to air on TV anywhere!

"It helps me relax." Good luck with that with Trigger in the room.

One of funniest sketches I ever seen,cracks me up every time ,,,

I have seen this 1000 times, I know every single word... Still cracks me up...

Didn't see that one coming... Brilliant! As ever.

R.I.P trigger. Legendary!

😂😂😂😂Trigger will literally never get old! Still piss myself laughing like its the first time I've watched it

Dubrovnik. September 19th, 2010. My wife and I, Australians, were on holidays and about to go out for dinner when a thunderstorm broke out. With some time to kill, I flicked on the TV in our room to see if there was anything in English. After five or six disappointments the last channel showed a blond man with a cigarette and a bad haircut putting on a CD of classical music. We had no idea what it was, but within seconds the blond man spoke in English (hurrah!) and within five minutes these unknown characters had us in stiches. Imagine the luck of getting "in fact you have to go past the pub" and "it's the karaoke version" in the first two minutes. We stayed until the end to see what it was called, and learned that it was called Only Fools and Horses. When we got home and researched it we were delighted to find out it was a sitcom with multiple seasons. A few months of dedicated effort later, we had watched every episode. If it wasn't for that thunderstorm, we'd still be blissfully unaware off this show and would have missed some of the greatest sitcom characters ever. Thank you random chance!!

Roger Lloyd Pack thought he must have died and gone to heaven every time he was given one on John Sullivans scripts. He got the best punchlines and all the dialogue led up to them so well. Mind you I think that the producers must have realised what a gem they had in him as such a brilliant actor playing a part with perfect comic timing. As an ensemble they were unbeatable and deserve every plaudit they get. RIP John Sullivan and Roger Lloyd Pack

Perfect comedy timing every time he is on screen. Flawless.

No one will ever be able to make or remake these classic bits ever again .

Are there no words to this Dave? Lmfao

Beauty is how they manage trigg every-time and they know he will be upto something seriously silly .. classic acting

I remember a scene where trigger calls Rodney Dave, Rodney tells him it's Rodney not Dave, Trigger says to him "why do they call you Dave then?"🤣

@QrazedGaming

2 жыл бұрын

If i remember correctly its on the episode with triggers nan funeral , rodneys sitting in the church on a pew and trigger comes and sit next to him

@XRioteerXBoyX

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it was the episode where Rodney became chairman of the housing committee and then immediately had to call of the committee session with his promotion and the ex-chairman's resignation done and no one else there to participate. Lol

John Sullivan must have had some sense of humour to write this,classic.

One of the best PIP trigger you will never be forgotten in our house.

The little looks before he asks Rodney if he's put a bit of music on.. little touches that made Lloyd pack one of the best