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Learning the names of skateboard tricks can be hard. Sometimes, even the pros get it wrong, as I show in the video. So today I answer some questions about how to name various skateboard tricks, like stuff with extra flips, and the dreaded body varial (AKA "sex change").
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  • @IronMan_thno
    @IronMan_thno5 жыл бұрын

    Skateboarding is way too confusing now, so I just like to see good lines and most times don't know what IM seeing haha.

  • @IronMan_thno

    @IronMan_thno

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Cyge240sx hahaha 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @derekperc
    @derekperc6 жыл бұрын

    Your logic for fakie slides is solid but it's just not what people say. As soon as you rotate 90 degrees (sliding instead of grinding) no fakie naming protocol is used and you go with the direction of the slide. When the you turn 90 backside the trick is usually called ‘half cab _____slide’ so that explains why the slide direction is used. You could say there's really no such thing as a 'fakie backside tailslide', only a 'fakie ollie (or frontside halfcab) to backside tailslide'. May not seem logical to everyone but that’s the tradition. I've been skating since before THPS and I always thought of 'body varial' and 'sex change' as being interchangeable terms.

  • @GunPoor
    @GunPoor6 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't find anything about Sex Changes that's old? The scene in Animal Chin (1987) at Chris Borst's ramp where the two kids are talking: Kid 1: "Tony was doing Jolly Mambas, Sex Change Varials, Kickflip ollies..." Kid 2: "Noooo... You're messed up!"

  • @ADownerKitty
    @ADownerKitty6 жыл бұрын

    the S in FS and BS stands for side not slide it should be as simple as that. what is confusing about this?

  • @Kevin-yx8lm

    @Kevin-yx8lm

    4 жыл бұрын

    that is literally common skater sense

  • @johnp8587
    @johnp85874 жыл бұрын

    I've seen people renaming tricks since the early 90's. 180 kickflip changed to varial. A real varial flip is almost never talked about. Varial used to be called a varial flip on vert and a hand flip if done on street. Etc.

  • @ufotofu9
    @ufotofu96 жыл бұрын

    Your explanation of Fakie is a great idea. Clears up a lot of confusion. As for Fakie Lips, I agree and have saying this forever!

  • @CarlStacey
    @CarlStacey6 жыл бұрын

    super happy every time i see a new vid!

  • @ununseptium7961
    @ununseptium79616 жыл бұрын

    Timing is everything. I binge watched Trickipedia today to read the naming wars in the comment section.

  • @robleymcdonnell
    @robleymcdonnell6 жыл бұрын

    I'll die with my honor calling those fakie back tails and back lips.

  • @HuxPlays
    @HuxPlays5 жыл бұрын

    That was a fakie to bs tail. If it was on vert it would be a fakie 270 bs tail I think the rules you gave work for grinds like the 5-0 or crooked. But not with slides. When sliding I think your body position determines the trick and not your setup into it. That is why you could do a 270, 360, 540 etc into a backside tail. It's always a back tail no matter what you did before. Where the grinds like 5-0 matter the orientation of approach. That's why it's not a fakie into switch nosegrind

  • @FrazierJustin
    @FrazierJustin6 жыл бұрын

    8:05 , yep, grew up with twister/twisted flips as the name for that too. You can do them with a pressure flip instead of a varial flip and call it a twister/twister pressure flip.

  • @emanueleferrigno6315
    @emanueleferrigno63156 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always...very informative. **By the way...what issue # is that Amazing Spider-Man hanging on your wall?

  • @aaroncohen7920
    @aaroncohen79206 жыл бұрын

    Also definitely a fakie back lip also

  • @DLo-dl3ne
    @DLo-dl3ne6 жыл бұрын

    Back in the 80s we called sex changes ... sex changes the board would do a complete vertical flip in- between the legs . Very hard to do since the board would do a flip, very hard to keep the board vertical so a little pressure helped.

  • @coggearalex
    @coggearalex3 жыл бұрын

    These videos are so interesting!

  • @themagicbarrio
    @themagicbarrio6 жыл бұрын

    I first heard of the sex change in Search for Animal Chin. I don’t think there was an example, but it was definitely mentioned at least once.

  • @jvgcgjkckhckchckckhhc
    @jvgcgjkckhckchckckhhc6 жыл бұрын

    omg i live in a country town in aus and i always thought that one kid who called heelflip sex changes discoflips was full of it lol

  • @Okshake
    @Okshake6 жыл бұрын

    What about a regular boardslide where your back is facing the object I see people calling them frontside boardslides? How does that make sense? Is it because they're facing the front?? And what about nollies? I always get so confused with those different variations.

  • @nobocks
    @nobocks6 жыл бұрын

    The most confusionnal thing is frontside and backside half cab :)

  • @mdfkrz79

    @mdfkrz79

    6 жыл бұрын

    Halfway through the rotation, is the front or back of your body facing forwards? that's basically it. Backside going forwards becomes frontside going fakie.

  • @flip_lange
    @flip_lange6 жыл бұрын

    Skateboarding nomenclature is rarely purely logical, whiich is way trick are called what skaters actually call them. Which is why, a fakie bs tail is a fakie bs tail and a fakie bs lip is a fakie bs lip, but a fakie sw fs willy is a fakie smith. I know how this can be confusing for people trying to learn the trick names, but it really isn't that bad, maybe only when you don't have friends who skate, or when you are completely isolated from what is going on in skateboarding...This is also why there is no such thing as a fs overcrook by the way ;)

  • @smittywerbenmanjensen1350

    @smittywerbenmanjensen1350

    5 жыл бұрын

    who cares, if you need to break out a fucking dictionary to explain a trick, chances are it was probably lame to begin with. just skate

  • @dillonwoodward9499
    @dillonwoodward94995 жыл бұрын

    I was hoping you would mention disco flips. That’s so funny. People now days do not know the facts. That’s some back in the day shit right there haha. I agree. A sex change is a kick flip body varial. Not just a body varial

  • @Okshake
    @Okshake6 жыл бұрын

    Yo man would you ever do skate video reviews? Like modern ones and classic? Maybe skits in the Girl videos or Artsy stuff in the Stereo vids? Or individual skaters parts? and music choice or idk.. Thanks!

  • @privateuser7
    @privateuser75 жыл бұрын

    The first trick is just a simple body varial? Unless I'm missing something

  • @smittywerbenmanjensen1350

    @smittywerbenmanjensen1350

    5 жыл бұрын

    it's a sex change

  • @chfour83

    @chfour83

    5 жыл бұрын

    Both are right 🤙🤙

  • @skjachin
    @skjachin5 жыл бұрын

    I think I understand the confusioning going on with fs/bs. Fs/bs is determined by which way your body turns not whether the ledge/rail is in front or behind you. It doesn't matter if your fakie, nollie, etc. Both tricks in the beginning the skaters are turning toward their blindside. That's why they say backside.

  • @tynanbarnes6506

    @tynanbarnes6506

    2 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to grinds it matters which way you are approaching the ledge/rail. If its in front of you its fs if its behind you is bs. Doesn’t matter which way you spin. Unless you are spinning more than 180. If you spin 180 or more then it switches because your orientation changed before you entered the grind

  • @havenmohi2039
    @havenmohi20393 жыл бұрын

    Kickflip would be called the witch flip in the old century lol

  • @edensfolly8955
    @edensfolly8955 Жыл бұрын

    My favourite 'body varial' I used to love doing was 360 flip sex change (I'd call it) I loved doing them fakie too, both I would body turn frontside to go blind to the board, with our rotations scissoring out then meeting again in one line and it always looked and felt awesome to do ^_^

  • @eternity9099
    @eternity90996 жыл бұрын

    The sex change was a freestyle trick back in the day, where the board went between you legs. (Hence the danger of a sex change) Somehow people started calling a shove body varial, kickflip body varial or a stance change during a 50-50 sex change as well. Who knows how these things happen.

  • @elpadrino1128
    @elpadrino11286 жыл бұрын

    4:43 but that is a nollie fs 360 shove it late flip isn´t it? that always kinda confused me, when people do shove its the old school way by putting pressure on their front foot to make the board spin easier, does that count as nollie? with gazelles as well you use your front foot to lift the tail a little, you use your 2 feet but you are basically in nollie stance

  • @TheJenslenaerts
    @TheJenslenaerts5 жыл бұрын

    i'm living in belgium and we used to say 'disco flip' to a 360-flip fs body varial.

  • @gorillabraudcast474
    @gorillabraudcast4745 жыл бұрын

    Willy Santos did a tip on fakie back tailslide back in the day. And he called it just that

  • @kspcrawf2091
    @kspcrawf2091 Жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure BB is doing it back side, also if he ollied onto it from that direction it would still be back side. If he did it from the other side fakie it or forward it would be a front side. His back is facing the direction he is sliding there for it's back side. It's confusing though like if you do a front side flip it's front side but if you do it nollie or fakie it becomes a back side flip because you are moving in the opposite direction there for your the directional side becomes opposite.. well that's how I see it.

  • @gonzo13ist
    @gonzo13ist6 жыл бұрын

    There are so many board sizes these days. How does one pick the right length, width, wheelbase? Help

  • @ciosproductions1919
    @ciosproductions19196 жыл бұрын

    The tony hawk games used to be the ultimate trickbible for us :D. There should be a website, that lists and explains all tricks. That should take a whille :D

  • @dthmtlsk8r
    @dthmtlsk8r6 жыл бұрын

    In the 80s growing up in phx,Az a sex change was just jumping to switch stance without the kick flip.

  • @Mateo-et3wl
    @Mateo-et3wl5 жыл бұрын

    When i started skating (1990) a sex change was a shove it with a body varial in the opposite direction

  • @kspcrawf2091
    @kspcrawf2091 Жыл бұрын

    Also if you want to get really technical the fakie front/back lipslide is actually a "fakie back side boards slide" I say this because when you pop a nollie onto a regular front side board slide they call it a "nollie front side lip slide" or rad would call it a "nollie back side lip slide" Once again it's not about what direction you roll up it's about what direction your body is sliding .. Slides are always back side going backwards on the slide and front side going forwards on the slide. It's different to to when you rotate your body or board that becomes technical again depending on if your rolling backwards or forwards .. So if you think about it you can't do a backwards back side nose slide because your all ready travelling backwards so if your sliding backwards back side your going forward there for front side

  • @pcguy1736
    @pcguy17366 жыл бұрын

    Sex change is in refrence to you changing your stance mid trick. Example: You start Goofy but land regular; and vice versa. Stance change/sex change. Adding the term Body varial to a trick is basic terminology for all alternative sports, so it's easier to communicate, in the basic trick name structure sense, people automatically understand. Consider sex change as slang, and body varial as proper terminology.

  • @millabyter4986
    @millabyter49866 жыл бұрын

    My guy, rad rat. You got a question ask rad rat! Immma start doing disco flips now

  • @BrokenKingpin
    @BrokenKingpin6 жыл бұрын

    I think trick names also have to do with location. Growing up (in my 30's now) anything with a body varial was referred to as a sex-change in my group of friends. I suspect this was also influenced by Tony Hawk; we probably just assumed anything was a sex-change, not just the kickflip variant. I would imagine a lot of trick names could vary depending on where you were located, especially with the internet not being as much of a thing back then. I find it a bit irritating when people get pissy about trick names like this though. Most people know what you are talking about, so who cares? The only time I correct people on this crap is when people mess up fs vs bs for fakie/nollie tricks (the rules are weird, but still well defined).

  • @kspcrawf2091

    @kspcrawf2091

    Жыл бұрын

    SFX change, stance foot cross change or nicknamed sex change

  • @speedhead
    @speedhead6 жыл бұрын

    if you want to see why its called a fakie BS tail, go and do a regular BS tail, then roll at it fakie with the object in front of you, enter the fakie bs tail and you will find out it FEELS exactly like a bs tail when entered, that is part of the reason why it is called this and fakie slides (not grinds) are reversed for bs/fs.

  • @chrisvaldez8708
    @chrisvaldez87086 жыл бұрын

    Do a video on plasma spins /hawkins twist, named after josh hawkins. Jonny ginger does a pretty good breakdown of the trick.

  • @f602r5
    @f602r56 жыл бұрын

    great video 🙌👊

  • @ImARagingAlcoholic
    @ImARagingAlcoholic4 жыл бұрын

    Does this apply to Nollie as well? Because when I used to Fakie 5-0, it felt like a backwards 5-0... But the same this Nollie feels like a Nollie to Nosegrind. Also is there a difference in FS & BS Reverts and Rewinds?

  • @fernandoreyes680

    @fernandoreyes680

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nollie nosegrind is exactly what you are thinking of. You pop a nollie and land on a regular nosegrind.

  • @Thurston86
    @Thurston866 жыл бұрын

    We always use the long form for trick names just so everyone clearly understands whats going on. For Biebels trick we would say Fakie Ollie Switch Frontside Noseslide Varial Flip To Regular. I know its long but it works especially for simple minded folk. Hehehe

  • @tyler1234321
    @tyler12343215 жыл бұрын

    To me a sex change is whenever you spin opposite the board direction like varial for example. other wise for just a kickflip or heelflip or whatever it doesn't matter what way you spin.

  • @leokerz
    @leokerz6 жыл бұрын

    I have a question about tweaked 5-0's and are they called crooked grinds or is there a special name?

  • @derekperc

    @derekperc

    6 жыл бұрын

    tweaked toward a bluntslide is a salad grind. a backside 5-0/tailslide hybrid is a suski grind. frontside 5-0/tailslide hybrid doesn't have a name because it's just an easy way to grind and it's pretty much how you grind to set up for a 180 out.

  • @LutherMasonVitaminL
    @LutherMasonVitaminL6 жыл бұрын

    Its called an Ollie trend. Which is the best name in the world.

  • @johneapleseed6876
    @johneapleseed68766 жыл бұрын

    hay rad rat. i know that you said that you don't usually read these or its easier to hit you up via other media but i figured id weigh in. i learned kickflips my 4th year skating in like 1988 kinda. because i had never seen one i set up toes pointed at the nose popped rocket and kicked straight down shoulders open this forced me to sex change. all the kids cheered but the older skater who was watching said that's a kickflip sex change. Jake Phelps went to Marblehead high school like 10yrs before me so my small town had a huge amount of skate punks to get knowledge from. keep making videos your channel is very good.

  • @alejandroraines4700
    @alejandroraines47006 жыл бұрын

    What I deduce from this is that sometimes these things are arbitrary. It's not black and white and there is no official rulebook, also names are constantly changing. Skating is ever-changing and ever-evolving. You could argue that a kickflip should be called a magic flip but is that true? Who decides what is true? Another example, in Brazil they call a tre flip a kickflip and a kickflip a "flip". To our standards that is wrong, but because in Brazil it is the normative thinking, it is not wrong. The collective decides what is wrong and right

  • @Emvy11
    @Emvy116 жыл бұрын

    how do i get into The Skateboard Association?

  • @mattzetts8777
    @mattzetts87776 жыл бұрын

    Powerful Brad Cromer thumbnail

  • @GetWetDiving
    @GetWetDiving6 жыл бұрын

    Do a video on notable skaters who are no longer with us. Sean Miller (FDR vert ramp), Keenan Milton, Pepe Martinez, Harold Hunter...Not necessarily Pros but notable skaters.

  • @urameshi473
    @urameshi4736 жыл бұрын

    I recall the pop shove it body varial being called a sexy spin

  • @travisguide4516
    @travisguide45166 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff rad rat always a fan i kinda take the berrics on fakie backside lipslide here is why i see it like that. If you want to do a boardslide from fakie it is almost too easy. to do a fakie boardslide its a half cab to boardslide. A fakie frontside boardslide is a backside half cab to boardslide. Neither of those are lipslides because they are just boardslides in fakie position. When you ollie over a rail then start sliding its a lipslide. fakie backside lipslide is called that because the only other thing is fakie lipslide.

  • @ekm0228
    @ekm02285 жыл бұрын

    i though a sex change was when you try to do a kickflip body varial but you fail at flicking the board and you impale the nose of the board on your nads.

  • @nycjade
    @nycjade6 жыл бұрын

    You're in the wrong on the first example and Beibel had it right. The rule of thumb for frontside and backside that you invented at the beginning of the video (ie, same going up and down a rail) only works for grinds, not nose, tail, or rail slides. Whether or not the slide is backside or frontside depends on your body's ultimate position while in the slide. It doesn't matter what part of your body faces the curb as you approach. To illustrate: you are rolling fakie facing the curb, you do a cab to tailslide or lipslide. Only a fool would call that a cab to frontside tailside. Likewise, if you nose slide up a rail and then back down again, you did a backside noseslide up and a frontside noseslide down (or vice versa). It's determined body position relative to the vector of the slide.

  • @clever-username

    @clever-username

    5 жыл бұрын

    🙌

  • @stephanbroyles1127

    @stephanbroyles1127

    5 жыл бұрын

    What about frontside boardslide?

  • @gunpla_sk8
    @gunpla_sk86 жыл бұрын

    Double hard flip is called the grape flip I think Donovan strain made a butteryass Mondays about it

  • @6.thedollar415

    @6.thedollar415

    4 жыл бұрын

    I heard a grape flip is a hardflip frontside 360 body varial

  • @zook420000
    @zook4200005 жыл бұрын

    frontside and backside spins and frontside and backside slides an how they're opposite like u spin backside (90 degrees only) to get into front side except tail slide , it can get weird quick. edit: lipslides an blunts are the same as tailslides too i guess. so maybe most dont follow my weird rule actualy. huh. u just gotta know, ya know

  • @justnoah6151
    @justnoah61516 жыл бұрын

    Bomb spiderman book in the background.

  • @austing10
    @austing106 жыл бұрын

    I heard that a a pop shuv it body varial is Rodeo ?

  • @df3kt
    @df3kt6 жыл бұрын

    The 1st time I saw it called a sex change was in thrasher back in like 1997 or so. There was a place in it for 10 weird trick names. They also called a fakie big spin a "my dick".

  • @user-og6ol2im7v
    @user-og6ol2im7v6 жыл бұрын

    Another debate: pop shuvit fs boardslide or bigspin fs boardslide?

  • @speedhead

    @speedhead

    6 жыл бұрын

    this is no debate, a shuv in is a 90 degree shuv, and your body rotates the opposite direction 90 degrees before entering the boardslide. a bigspin in, the board rotates 270. your body 90 in the same direction(very much mimicing bigspin), and you enter the boardslide. they are 2 different tricks, not the same name for one trick. Same train of thought for bigspins or shuvs out, if you call a bigspin out a shuv out, than what is the actual shuv out LOL i never get why this is so confusing for ppl, pretty simple actually. cheers

  • @dadaluma13

    @dadaluma13

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pig_Trough wouldn't what you described as a pop shuvit boardslide technically be a pop shuvit lipslide then?

  • @fmpentertainmentmedley3338
    @fmpentertainmentmedley33383 жыл бұрын

    Ollie body varial is accurate but sex change could be considered "skate slang" lol

  • @matrixarsmusicworkshop561
    @matrixarsmusicworkshop5616 жыл бұрын

    Now it makes more sense

  • @dvs2751
    @dvs27516 жыл бұрын

    Ask every old vert skater, Mark Gonzales, every SOTY, hesh dogs to tech wizards. Every pro knows you're wrong. what happened to you in highschool?

  • @cyclopsentertainment517

    @cyclopsentertainment517

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's only wrong about the fakie lipslide. The front trucks would have to come over the rail/ledge first for it to me a board slide. It's obvious that the back trucks go over the rail first so it's a lipslide

  • @MukesBoy
    @MukesBoy5 жыл бұрын

    I have an actual question about a trick I was know for: a fakie kickflip varial. Basically, I skate Goofy, I'm riding fakie (kick foot is in front) I kickflip riding fakie,but my board also spins 180. What really is it in today's terms

  • @tynanbarnes6506

    @tynanbarnes6506

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is a fakie varial flip or a fakie shuvit flip because technically varials are a vert trick where you use your hand to do a shuvit

  • @MukesBoy

    @MukesBoy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tynanbarnes6506 you're right about the varial origins. I had just forgot. Didn't caballero create that one? I remember the cabalarial. My favorite trick since I learned it at 15 is the half cab heel. I miss skating man

  • @dadaluma13
    @dadaluma136 жыл бұрын

    How about a Fakie crooked grind? A fakie 5-0 is done on the tail and a fakie nosegrind is obviously on the nose, but a fakie crook is for some reason on the tail? should it not be a fakie suski grind or something?

  • @sandersijssens4175

    @sandersijssens4175

    6 жыл бұрын

    dadaluma13 but crooks and "suski" are not on the same truck position

  • @deberleoffice

    @deberleoffice

    6 жыл бұрын

    This has always kind of bugged me, but crook is just different. There's really no way to reverse it so it is what it is.

  • @MilkSteak23
    @MilkSteak236 жыл бұрын

    One that doesn't totally make sense is fakie crook. You have a fakie 5-0 and a fakie nosegrind, but the fakie crook is on the same truck as the 5-0 not the fakie nosegrind. I guess fakie ollie to switch crook would be accurate but kind of a long name.

  • @sandersijssens4175

    @sandersijssens4175

    6 жыл бұрын

    MilkSteak23 I was thinking about fakie crooks as wel, it is a grind that can be done in reverse, I like the fakie to "trick" solution like fliptricks and then you shorten it like the flip tricks, causing confusion with backside frontside but everybody will know what you are doing.

  • @tdogyew7767
    @tdogyew77676 жыл бұрын

    Hey rad rat can you do a 360 underflip tutorial

  • @MukesBoy
    @MukesBoy5 жыл бұрын

    Dude I've enjoyed many of your.videos,but I'm.going to say that when I was 15 doing that trick in 90-91 a fakie backside lip is exactly what that was. For us, front side is any 180 with the front of your body rotating and backside when it's your back and ass rotating the opposite way. I don't know when the idea changed, but I struggled with that when I came back to it in 01. Same thing with varials and pop shuv its. BtW, I skate Goofy.

  • @clitatits6653
    @clitatits66536 жыл бұрын

    I always thought that sex change was when you changed your stance mid air after you already caught the trick. And that a body varial was when you changed stance while the trick was still happening. But hey, I can admit I was wrong.

  • @dvs2751
    @dvs27516 жыл бұрын

    See if you can find a fakie bs tailslide and it be called something else. I guarantee it would take a long time finding one. If you do find that trick named something else let me know in this thread, and i'll watch it. Type in fakie bs tailslide and see what you get.

  • @pre-packaged_9692
    @pre-packaged_96925 жыл бұрын

    I came up skating around 2010 and I remember using sex change with my friends for any body varial. We knew it was wrong but used it anyway because it sounded cool. I don't think we knew what an actual sex change was, just that it was different than a body varial

  • @doktor_faust
    @doktor_faust6 жыл бұрын

    So do i get it right now? Body Varial = Sex Change = a body rotation ignoring the board under you So if you combine one of the two terms above with a trick, they are basically the same: Kickflip Body Varial = Kickflip Sex Change? So "Body Varial" and "Sex Change" are just synonyms?

  • @ununseptium7961
    @ununseptium79614 жыл бұрын

    I watched a video the other day that irked me. They said the skater did a 180 bs nose grind, which is doesn't work. I am leaving out whether the 180 was front or back side. I am not perfect, but I expect people to put a little effort into thinking about the trick name when they post it online.

  • @asabass2274
    @asabass22744 жыл бұрын

    Can you please explain to these kids that a hospital flip is inverted and an anti-flip is to the side like a pop shuv-it? Just like how a casper flip is inverted and an anti-casper is to the side like a pop shuv-it.

  • @ivanfreitasvideos
    @ivanfreitasvideos6 жыл бұрын

    trick names is a confusing subject. I usually have the berrics as my "offical place to research" trick names. When I see someone calling a trick in the wrong way, if We start to discuss about that name, I say "go to the berrics website and search for it". Here in Brazil we have a lot of tricks been called wrong. A simple kickflip is called "flip". wich is fine because it's just a shorter name for it. but 360 flips are called "kickflips" here, and I have no idea why. And Lipslides, people call it "boardslides". boardslides, they call it "rockslides". theese are just some exemples, we have more. that actually bothers me, because I call all the tricks by the original names. but i'm just realizing that maybe we have no control about it. people are going to call it wrong. Maybe there is nothing we can do about it, I don't know.

  • @Zenguitarring
    @Zenguitarring6 жыл бұрын

    I am a ‘pre-Tony hawk’ skater and can attest you had it right the 1st time- a sex change refers to a frontside body varial. Atleast in 96-97’ that’s what it was. Who really knows the ultimate truth..because what were they referred to before the guy who first decided to call them sex changes? Perhaps frontside body varial? When does 1 take precedence over the other? Fuck.

  • @ccollins125
    @ccollins1256 жыл бұрын

    Think about it like this... He is doing a fakie ollie into a bs tailslide. a fakie 5-0, nosegrind etc is different because those don't look the same as they do regular. Your logic makes sense, but thats just it... not all skate tricks are named with logic. you shouldn't try to undo years of what skaters agreed on because you think it doesn't make sense. You better read every skate mag caption and speak to a skate from every era of every region if you want to truly claim to be an authority.

  • @HyenaFox
    @HyenaFox6 жыл бұрын

    I always thought body varial and sex change were the exact same thing (the body rotating independently of the board, so an Ollie body varial would be an Ollie but your body doing a 180). I thought it was just interchangeable, with sex change being the less politically corect, which is why it hadn't been used. I was also under the impression that 360 shove body varial is a big spin, 540 shove body varial is gazelle spin. (Also, varial is the general term for spin, eg varial flips, so that is how I thought those connected.)

  • @JDfromtheIE
    @JDfromtheIE6 жыл бұрын

    One thing I don't understand is why varialflips are ignored when done into a slide i.e. Bigspin Flip to BS Tail Slide. It looks to me like a varialflip bs tailslide you just have to catch and turn an extra 90 degrees. It seems to me that when naming tricks, the flip trick should complete its entire motion before the slide or grind to count. This example comes from a Trickapedia as well. Sewa Kroetkov did the trick kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2p3x6Wbm62Ym9Y.html What's your thought on this?

  • @speedhead

    @speedhead

    6 жыл бұрын

    into grinds/slides, they still call em bigspins as the motion is much more like the bigspin (or bigflip) than a standard shuv in or v flip in.

  • @JDfromtheIE

    @JDfromtheIE

    6 жыл бұрын

    By that logic, every BS Tailslide should be a BS 180 to BS Tailslide. It just doesn't make sense to me. So a Varial Flip BS Tailslide is impossible to do?

  • @adrianbelgar3754
    @adrianbelgar37546 жыл бұрын

    What Spider-Man comic is that on your wall?

  • @tthheekk
    @tthheekk6 жыл бұрын

    Fakie does not define the entire trick. Fakie defines the position in the lead up to the trick. This is how it should be, and mostly is. There are always exceptions though. Like fakie 5-0. It should be called fakie to switch nosegrind. There should be no such thing as a fakie 5-0. But there is. Rad Rat you are taking this fakie 5-0 mentality to all fakie tricks and it just does not fly. Btw love the vids, I'm not a hater and a bit of debate is a good thing!

  • @Ratt611
    @Ratt6116 жыл бұрын

    FIrst trick was a sex change, cmon dude these better get harder! XD

  • @klasaaaa
    @klasaaaa6 жыл бұрын

    varial heel or heelflip shove it?? Rodney invented this trick and even now he always say " heelflip shove it. What you think?

  • @theknightwhosmokedthelaugh7156
    @theknightwhosmokedthelaugh71566 жыл бұрын

    that whole fakie grind thing is way wrong, your telling me if I do a faike Ollie switch fs 5-0 it's a nose grind? the only exception I can think of is 180 reverse nose grind which is a 180 switch 5-0 hence the phrase reverse

  • @SquirrelASMR
    @SquirrelASMR6 жыл бұрын

    Crooked/overcrook grind names make sense... but salad doesn't make seeeenswee These random names like smith feeble willy have no meaning. Same wi5tv laser flip etc. I like the over terminology in grinds a lot though.

  • @AidenCral
    @AidenCral6 жыл бұрын

    Isn't the trick you did at 4:15 video called a kiwi flip?

  • @jonasmichaelis8811

    @jonasmichaelis8811

    6 жыл бұрын

    klaus walter Kiwi Flips are fs shuvit underflips.

  • @Rutabagas

    @Rutabagas

    6 жыл бұрын

    klaus walter i think that’s for lazers? Idk I don’t remember

  • @chadragan8871
    @chadragan88716 жыл бұрын

    In November of last year Tony hawk had a public announcement on the berrics about Varials only being a grab so I think that might still apply to body Variel so it's probably sex change. What do you think please watch the video and let us know.

  • @Kaoskadosk
    @Kaoskadosk6 жыл бұрын

    Just call fakie switch nollie instead and there won't be any confusion. Logic > convention.

  • @eternity9099

    @eternity9099

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kaoskadosk Or call Nollie switch Fakie...

  • @twistedneedles4326

    @twistedneedles4326

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or just call rolling backwards fakie

  • @6.thedollar415

    @6.thedollar415

    4 жыл бұрын

    rodney mullen actually does that lol

  • @dvs2751
    @dvs27516 жыл бұрын

    Had the first trick been nollie.... it would be frontside. Being that it's fakie...... it's backside. . Can't believe he went and made a video titled this. WOW! He spoke in full confidence with cringe worthy sarcasm too.

  • @coburgerj1993
    @coburgerj19935 жыл бұрын

    Is it fakie big spin or half cab 360 shuv?

  • @_mazarico_

    @_mazarico_

    5 жыл бұрын

    It’s Fakie Bigspin. Half-Cabs and Full-Cabs/Caballerials are Fakie spinning ollies. The board rotates the same amount of degrees as your body in the same direction and you don’t grab the board. This is why a “fakie backside flip” is called a Half-Cab Flip but a Fakie 180 No-Comply, Fakie 360 Indy Grab, or a Fakie 180 Boneless aren’t given the “cab” name. If the board spins 360 and you spin 180 both backside while going fakie, its a Fakie Bigspin because your board and body are rotating independently of each other despite going in the same direction. As far as the Berrics getting trick names wrong, I remember watching a BATB game where someone did a Fakie Gazelle Flip (360 body spin, 540 board spin, both backside, with a kickflip thrown in) and the video labeled it a “Caballerial Bigspin Flip.” Another time, they labeled a Straight Pressure Flip a “pressure kickflip (even though the board was flipping like a heelflip)

  • @musicfromfriends
    @musicfromfriends5 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't it just called body turn instead of body varial?

  • @fernandoreyes680
    @fernandoreyes6806 жыл бұрын

    What about tricks like kickflip cancel? You know, like a half kickflip late half heelflip? I'm not 100% sure if kickflip cancel is accurate.

  • @Bladmapples
    @Bladmapples6 жыл бұрын

    The naming system of skate tricks is so broken its usually unbelievably tedious trying to describe fakie tricks when spins are involved, even amongst friends . Funny thing is, there is an incredibly simple solution: Fakie no longer means 'backwards', it means 'popped from the nose while going switch stance'. Easy. Biebel's trick would be a fakie fs noseslide. Done. The only slightly confusing part is the flip out, since it does a full kickflip, but half a shuv, and half a body varial. Since he is coming out the opposite direction he entered (He entered regular and landed goofy), I'd call it a kickflip body varial, but thats kinda irrelevant. The whole 'fs/bs changes in fakie' needs to die.

  • @wanton_chips3638
    @wanton_chips36383 жыл бұрын

    Why wouldn’t the body varial - varial flip not be called a twisted sex change?

  • @aaroncohen7920
    @aaroncohen79206 жыл бұрын

    The first trick is a fakie back tail dummy

  • @ksdzvx3163
    @ksdzvx31636 жыл бұрын

    What about grinds and slides that are made on the further side of the ledge? Like this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lJx7rdqAk8_cgag.html I'd say it's a front tail (ledge is in front of you and you're rotating 90 degrees frontside, not backside like in fs blunt), but many people calls it blunt slide just because the wheels are sliding.

  • @GallowglassBLADE
    @GallowglassBLADE6 жыл бұрын

    To be honest sex change was a stupid name I’m glad they call it body varials now

  • @centralalley
    @centralalley6 жыл бұрын

    It 100% most definitely is a fakie back tail, and a fakie back lip. Fakie does mean backward, but you only got halfway there with the analysis. The rule is, the fakie approach is always backward, but once in position on the ledge or rail for a slide or grind, the position you are in defines the name. Hence, why a fakie nosegrind is not a fakie 5-0 and vice versa. He's in a back lip motion and position--his back truck crossed the rail and he's sliding backside regardless of whether he entered the trick going backward or forward. There are still a couple of exceptions though--namely the fakie smith and fakie crooks, for different reasons. If you want to cross-reference this, check almost any magazine description of these tricks since the mid-90s. Magazines, especially Transworld and Thrasher, are pretty meticulous and consistent with naming tricks.

  • @Rutabagas

    @Rutabagas

    6 жыл бұрын

    Scott Ahler imagine having a really small nose, like a cruiser or something older, and your rolling up fakie. You land on your nose, so you call in a fakie nosegrind. It’s clear when you think about it like this that you’re not doing a 5-0, you’re landing on the nose of the board. You’re not switching stance at any point. Rad rat also has a video about why people get confused about this, if you want to argue more I would suggest heading to that video

  • @centralalley

    @centralalley

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think you're supporting what I said. That's the reason it's a fakie nosegrind even though it's also essentially what could be called a "fakie ollie to switch 5-0". Sorry, but RadRat is wrong in the case of the fakie back tail and fakie back lip. That's what they're commonly called, and I illustrated why. A quick google search will back me up. Check out these links from reputable sources; they are correct. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iK1nyaeHZa_KlNo.html theberrics.com/trickipedia-fakie-backside-tailslide/ You may disagree about what to call these tricks--it's just semantics after all--but it's more difficult to deny that this is what is commonly agreed upon.

  • @stephanbroyles1127

    @stephanbroyles1127

    5 жыл бұрын

    Can you explain why you slide backwards when doing a front board?

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