Being a cisguy, videos like this are really helpful in helping me understand non-binary people.

@bornwithoutconsentobviously

7 жыл бұрын

bradleycoke15 it's nice to see understanding cis men. Because tbh. Other than elderly cis women I think thats the least understanding group in my country.

@paolaochoa1154

7 жыл бұрын

bradleycoke15 Can you tell me what does Cis means? They are some words that some people use and that I've seen here but I don't know the meanings, so I hope i'm not being disrespectful or anything

@bradleycoke15

7 жыл бұрын

Pao Ochoa Cis means you identify with the body you were born with. In my case, this means I was born male, and I identify as male.

@AnnaThatcher

7 жыл бұрын

bradleycoke15 it's what ur assigned not born

@bradleycoke15

7 жыл бұрын

Westley Morgan Thatcher Sorry, honest mistake.

Jake is probably the chilliest non-binary person I know

@Alex-px5bz

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr!!

@kainovember

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Kovu from the past

Pronouns can be difficult, but "never assuming" is good advice. I really hope I remember people's names! :) x

@birflurnstun1346

6 жыл бұрын

Gary C So does Jake use they instead of he? Just wondering because some non binary people use he or she

@sebastianredgwell9133

6 жыл бұрын

Mickey Rembiszewski Jake still uses he

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds it dangerously easy to misgender somebody... uhm, does it count as misgendering using they/them to refer to someone whose pronouns are he/him or she/her? If not that could be a surefire option when you're unsure about someone's gender :D ...maybe... Also what Alex said about society, that's so true, people tend to get 'transgender' and 'transvestite' mixed up a lot! Love you both

@potapobob3769

7 жыл бұрын

Dartnix They/them is neutral so I find myself using it all the time for people who's pronouns I don't know yet, without even doing it deliberately. I guess I just subconsciously don't want to assume gender/pronouns because I know how it feels when other people do (I'm nb).

@colorbandiits

7 жыл бұрын

Dartnix using they/them for some one who you know uses he or she pronouns would be misgendering. I personally try to use they/them until such time as I find out definitively what they prefer.

@finch9782

7 жыл бұрын

Dartnix yes you should use they/them if you don't know someone's pronouns but if you for sure know their pronouns then use them because they might feel uncomfortable with they/them. Idk

@LaxLune

7 жыл бұрын

Deliberately using they/them when you are aware that someone's pronouns are she/her or he/him or something else is misgendering but if you are not aware of pronouns it is probably safest to stick with they/them until you are aware of the correct pronouns.

@Dartnix

7 жыл бұрын

All right, that makes sense, thank you all.

You have such an understanding boyfriend. You are so lucky. I don't even have an understanding mother.

@thebiggerissue4453

7 жыл бұрын

Social Media Warrior same

@monsterfckr

7 жыл бұрын

Social Media Warrior How old are you?

@bornwithoutconsentobviously

7 жыл бұрын

Nathan Morou old enough to respect non binary people.

@monsterfckr

7 жыл бұрын

Social Media Warrior 12, got it

@bornwithoutconsentobviously

7 жыл бұрын

Nathan Morou at least I don't look like a 12 year old girl.

Hey Jake, I'm glad that you've found a label that fits you! I also really appreciate you talking about this subject. I'm a transguy but sometimes I have days of feeling less like a guy and more in the middle of the spectrum. I felt really bad about it until you started talking about relating to that. Ps. I think it's great that Alex is trying his best to learn about this more

I'm non binary trans masculine and for me the binary and non binary trans community in my life is very much part of the same community and are there for each other so its sucks that those people Alex was introduced to were so shitty..

@ethanfabulous6498

7 жыл бұрын

misamisa29 If you're trans masculine then you're not non binary..

@naomirmckay3368

7 жыл бұрын

Sausage Duncan I'm pretty sure that you aren't them so you really have no say in their identity. They are their own person, you oaf.

@misamisa29

7 жыл бұрын

@cosmos1044 ok, Im ignoring sausage's comments but i needed to say that isn't true, trans just means you dont identify with the gender you were assigned at birth. It's an umbrella word that includes non binary people.

I honestly just try to use 'they/them' for almost everyone I don't know because it's the most neutral (and is used for ppl u don't know the gender of in the English grammar anyway) and it hasn't really pissed anyone off yet or made uncomfortable as far as I know. Or they just didn't tell me.

For the people saying can we stop just using labels, can you just be realistic? Thats not how people work. We as humans use language and labels help us be able to quickly generally understand what something is, etc. Lets stop pretending that we dont want to use labels because almost EVERY word is a label and it helps us and can sometimes hurt us. For the people who dont know what nonbinary is, its just not being strictly male OR female. It has nothing to do with just being feminine in your gender expression or the opposite. The clothes you wear isnt what makes a trans person trans, its simply how they SEE themselves.

@jakedax525

7 жыл бұрын

kuroichan101 THANK YOU

You're probably the most adorable couple on KZread tbh,I wish I were going to SITC but I'm going to Dorset instead. I hope you both have a lovely weekend!❤️

@Em-dh5mg

7 жыл бұрын

Devin Molko hah me too mate its cold here have fun

@elilouislarn923

7 жыл бұрын

Devin Molko omg I wanna go SITC too but I'm also going to Dorset

@charlie-jade3174

7 жыл бұрын

I LIVE IN DORSET

@none4530

7 жыл бұрын

Ikr! I just left England yesterday to fly home :(

@yikesspike

7 жыл бұрын

They live in Dorset 😂

Find someone who looks at you the way jake looks at alex

What really annoys me is that when you say you don't like someone than other think it is because them being lesbian/gay/bi etc... like it has nothing to do with that. But what i hate the most about being a Lesbian is now that pretty much every girl at my school hate on me because they are afraid i will make a move on them like no I only date nice people sorry.

@jaygay2678

6 жыл бұрын

cosmos1044 Lol, don't be so assuming and naive. Fear of losing a friendship will never make someone hate another person. Those hateful straight girls only see lesbians as predators, and that's fucked up. Don't defend them. Wake up.

@ashdacos-playa8707

6 жыл бұрын

I got called a pedo cause I'm in pe with my gf so when we get changed kids will drag us into the shower cubicles, let use both get changed (in different cubicles) and make sure everyone else is dressed then let us out... I'm used to it but it used to upset me alot

Just because someone doesn't understand something fully does not mean they can be offensive & rude about it. I don't understand all the labels and different identities but I respect that they are real and valid and so should everyone else. Also you both are cute af :3

I'm seeing a lot of comments saying they don't understand non-binary, it's complicated, it doesn't make sense, it's stupid, it's fake. That's a dangerous escalation of thought. There are so many things in this world that I do not understand for the life of me. But I don't immediately dismiss something as not real, purely because I don't understand. What I'm trying to say is, *you don't have to understand something to respect it.*

"People don't understand because they can't feel it" you perfectly explained it in that one sentence. It's so hard to explain to people who have literally no concept of how it feels to not relate to either gender (or wherever you fall on the spectrum). I just say fuck it. I'm nonbinary, I know how I feel and that's all that matters. Great video friends!

That was really good. That's so true about non-binary, intersex and bisexuality all being in that grey area between the 2 established binaries. They're all kind of a connected struggle to show society tht not everything is black and white. peace x

"Bisexuality is not real. Pick one side!" "Nonbinary is not real. Pick one side!" Oh my dear, this is a really good point! That you for your thoughts!

@deemah3602

5 жыл бұрын

Bisexuality is scientific proved. Nonbinary isn't.

@RaeDole

5 жыл бұрын

@@deemah3602 have you done any research? Many doctors have confirmed that it exists and thought history many cultures have recognized nonbinary genders.

@kittys.a.r6912

4 жыл бұрын

Kater Schnurz I’m both non-binary and bi

Ugh Jake you and Alex are such a cute couple

I love the candid-ness of this. Just having a casual conversation but also sharing personal experiences is so nice to see. Great video dudes 😊😊

I'm on the same boat as Alex with not always being sure how or if right place to ask on pronouns. I know it's better safe than sorry; I just don't like thinking that the aftermath might be them not feeling great that it wasn't seen as obvious for me, or they may even not be lgbtq+ friendly so I don't want to be there for that conversation. Though I will try Jake's method of waiting to hear what others call them and asking to clarify if okay, especially considering I just claimed full responsibility on being a douche for assuming and being wrong before.

@Albaquenocalba

7 жыл бұрын

rachtale it is also nice to say your name and your pronouns when you meet someone so they tell you their pronouns without feeling dysphoric from you asking :)

I love that Jake mentions feeling validated by Alex's actions. i feel like little actions often in the form of little gifts are such wonderful displays of support for trans nonbinary people. i know it meant so much to me when my mom came to me after I came out and gave me a pair of jeans from a male friend of hers.

"I didn't want to be gay about it" dead

Ive certainly had issues with some trans people in the past having that " chip on your shoulder " mentality and as Alex said it does is have to do with society, it's just so tiring to me as too why people within our own community can't be supportive of others... maybe cause I'm nearly 20 now I'm sick of all the drama and just wanna be left alone to be queer in peace. (Also off topic I'm so proud of you both after watching your channels for years and I can certainly see your both happier and more comfortable and i hope I can reach that level of comfortableness )

"fart on the binary"- Jake 2k17

Watching u always makes me feel better! My entire life I've begged to not be labeled yet society forces it. I'm a bit older so many terms used now weren't used years ago & I "picked" Bi & spent yrs being told 2 get off the fence. Finally comfortable in some areas of myself I say I'm just me & i fall in love with a person's inside not out. Call it Pan or Bi I don't care. I'm also with someone very much younger & totally new to this community. Kinda cute to watch him use an old phrase then say OMG I'm sorry. He could careless what "label" I'm called, he said i sat as a kid made a list of what i wanted in a girl & you've got all plus some. Who cares about society if we're happy and support each other that's what matters. Thank you both for being so open & helpful...I rarely feel alone or so abnormal I question why I'm on this planet.

My significant other's pronouns are confusing and I don't know how to refer to them so I just refer to them by their name because I'm too awkward to ask and they were born as a girl but I don't know whether they want she/her or they/them but whenever I ask they avoid the question and it really annoys me because i love them but whenever i refer to them with she/her pronouns they get angry and ask if I've just assumed their gender and they won't tell me their bloody pronouns and sometimes i want to throttle them.

@laynehowlett9869

7 жыл бұрын

I'd say just use they/them, given that they have an issue with she/her

@koalasaregreat4993

7 жыл бұрын

Layne Howlett they don't exactly have a problem with it but they just have days when they want she/her or they/them and it's confusing

@clearly_blurry3416

7 жыл бұрын

Nothing Special This seems to be that your s/o doesn't know their own pronouns. I think you just need to be patient, and they'll tell you when their ready.

@laynehowlett9869

7 жыл бұрын

oh i see, they/them is always a safe spot to me

@koalasaregreat4993

7 жыл бұрын

clearly_blurry thank you for this advice I appreciate it

Thanks for the video, it's amazing! I love both channels, you guys are amazing😊💛

am i the only one who thinks it's so cute that Alex is getting mad on Jake's behalf!?

BLACK AND WHITE but then THERES GREY!!!

In Finland we use one pronoun for all people, probably the only thing that is easy in our language 😂

@masens.9010

4 жыл бұрын

Nina that’s so cool! I had no idea

@ryandaddy1089

3 жыл бұрын

Same thing in korean

Really important video on explaining but also being real about the gender diverse community. The community can be loving and supportive, but also so bitter and petty about others identities. There's so much infighting that it's hard to present positive representation to wider communities

Thank you so much for making this video, all of these videos on gender and shiz are really helping me figure things out!! Y'all rock

A group chat i am in with my friends was called Fuck the Binary for a long time

So much love for u two! I don't have the ability to articulate my thoughts coherently but just rly want u to know how much I respect and appreciate everything u are/do. This is so validating and comforting 💖💖💖💖

yessss omg when jake talked about how the stereotype of nb people being whiney came about that made so much sense we all need to talk about that

Jake, I hope I understand better because of the work you and Alex have done in helping educate me and hopefully others about these issues. You are looking good and pardon me if I use your post to say Alex looks fuckin fabulous.

I HAVE TO MEET YOU GUYS SOMEDAY! I have a feeling our personalities would get along quite well with being direct and sarcastic. :) I love the energy between you in discussing this. Much love to you both! And honestly this helps. I'm going through my own mental discoveries and have been for a while. Jake you are a bad ass.

I really wish we had some form of like... hand signal to ask what someone's pronouns are. And then a few different hand signals that represent the different pronouns. Like, you lock eyes with someone, and make a small descreet signal, and if they know what you're doing, they can signal back and BOOM no awkward conversation, you can do it in a group, in a crowd, whatever. And if the other person didn't know the signals, it would be discreet enough they wouldn't notice. Idk

i've been gender fluid for years now, and only recently has the whole "special snowflake" thing gotten exponentially worse. i had a sarahah and a this crush (which are both anonymous message-leaving type of dealies) and i made them bc my cis friends were all doing it, but mine was filled with comments like "transtrender" and super invalidating shit. it's caused me to show that part of myself to a select few people, and hide it from the rest. congrats on being and staying so open jake. lots of love 💖

I love seeing you two in vids again. I also love seeing the love you have for one another! PDA reminds me of your early vids, that I loved!

So far, this is the most positive nb comments I've seen on a video, so thank you from half on/out nb pal on heartening me so much and putting faith back in humans. X Thank you internet pals for being so mature and I respect your respect. xxx

True story from a cis person: I tried explaining to my boyfriend about assuming people's gender identity and he just did not get it. Then one day we met a person who presented extremely masculine but turned out she was a she (oops). He came to me later and said "Ok, I'll try to use 'they' if I don't know someone's pronouns." As a trans ally that made me so happy 😁

I don't understand why people don't respect non binary spectrum. It's okay not to understand it, because we live in a binary society and if you aren't non binary, it's really difficult to know and understand what a non binary person feels. I don't understand it neither, but I respect it. If someone wants to have they as prounoun, who gives a shit? Call them they or shut up.

Jake Edwards, you are my transition goals.

I'm afraid of coming out as ftm nonbinary because here in Finland, you HAVE to be transgender to get treatment like hormones and surgeries so if I come out as nonbinary I won't get any treatment and I really do need hormones and other treatments.

@DefaltTzimisce

7 жыл бұрын

Spookytomas don't tell that u are non-binary . Keep it for yourself you don't need a coming out for wear makeup , dear~

@jakedax525

7 жыл бұрын

You don't have to come out as non binary to your doctors or whatever, but rather can come out to your friends. Do what you need to get what you need

@ronnieventura1226

7 жыл бұрын

You could lie....?

@jackhart3645

7 жыл бұрын

Spookytomas can I just ask why you need hormones and such if you are nonbinary? I mean, a transgender person will go from mtf or ftm, the hormones and surgeries make that transition from one gender to the opposite one. So, what are you trying to become, I suppose I'm asking. I'm very curious as to what nonbinary people want to make their physical appearances go to, as to remain in that "neutral" state. I understand the whole personal comfort stuff, but if you're going to change your physical body vs just changing you style, how does that help? Will you not be perceived as a either a man or woman again after all of it? I've tried to ask a lot of nb people and I always get negative reactions, hopefully you could help clear up how hormones and such would help, if you're trying to stay in the "neutral" state, rather than that of man or woman? Thanks ahead of time if you reply

@jakedax525

7 жыл бұрын

Jack Hart if they're non binary that doesn't mean they don't have dysphoria or needs which can only be provided by hormones and surgeries. Jake is non binary and he is on T, he wants top surgery. If you're trans mtf or ftm you don't HAVE to get certain surgeries and procedures, if you're non binary you don't either, it's about making someone comfortable in their own body.

one of the best videos I've watched in a while, thanks! *big hug* :)

I'm glad you shared this vid with us, Jake!! It's really good and it helped me understand everything in a btter way

I live for how everyone helps everyone out within these comments! whether that's decoding the video, helping them with finding who they are or even same tips. The video was amazing and made me think so much about what I say and who I am. I'm Non-binary and my friend group is known for being the LGBT group (most of us are in the community and we talk about and try to normalise is at our school) and watching this video has really helped try to not just put everyone into 'They/Them' categories on first meeting, thinking it will help and to actually ask. You guys have helped me so much it's unbelievable!! I meet you guys at sitc this weekend and never to go say it but thank you

This was really interesting, thank-you. Also you're both looking so gorgeous!

I'm a non-binary, biologically female, 13 year old from the UK and I go to an all girls school. Watching both of your channels has helped me to feel more comfortable in I'm own skin, I still deal with dysphoria, anxiety and depression but it is a lot better thank to you both. THANK YOU 😊❤️

Regardless of your identity - you are both adorable and you love each other. I like the whole "no labels" thing. Be who you are! You all are pioneers coming out as yourselves. And you also both have great communication and you understand each other. I think it's great!

You have earned my respect both of you. I was worried about watching this as I know a few trans people are against NB people. So thank you so much

"We're not like 'it's okay' like I fucking know" Me

I love how much I can learn from a youtube video, thank you two !

I love this so much. Thanks for discussing these issues

I love this video because I’m very much like jake in the sense that I’m a non binary person that wants to transition into a more masculine body and this makes me feel so much better knowing that I’m not the only person like this. Thank you for being you honestly.

i had an experience with a doctor where I had to come out to her and I said I was nonbinary and she said "that's okay, just let me know when you pick a side"

@naomirmckay3368

7 жыл бұрын

Ace Sz that sounds absolutely horrible. That's no different then asking a mixed-race person or a hearing-impaired person to "pick a side". Like, you can't help it!

@tam9639

7 жыл бұрын

+cosmos1044 are you going through the comment section trying to put everyone down? Half the rude comments I see are from you... Gender =/= sex and doctors really shouldn't be concerned with your gender identity unless you are seeing them for issues regarding gender identity. She had no reason to say what she did, and clearly has not received adequate training on dealing with gender identity.

@sayitshay

7 жыл бұрын

Lovelii oh shuuuuuutttt uuuuuppppp

@immortalvelociraptor7810

6 жыл бұрын

Ace Sz and that's when you leave the doctors office and find a new one. The the fucking rudest shit I've ever heard. What the actual fuck.

@mikelmontoya2965

6 жыл бұрын

cosmos1044 there isn't anything biological about gender, so what you said doesn't make any logic

look at you guys. how far you've come. pride is not the word I'm looking for. also alex's beard is a wonderful treasure.

Ya know even if its almost 4 am and i have some quality shit to do tomorrow who needs sleep whenever jake posts

Wow, did you need to wrap up this video quickly at the end there or what? :P Really great, informative video, though. It's so lovely to see Alex still being supportive and wanting to get to know more and understand Jake. Makes me (a non-binary person myself) pretty happy. (:

i love u both sm and im so happy you both feel comfortable with yourselves and each other ♡

i never thought about how being bisexual is similar to being non binary in how ppl end up telling you to pick a side...thanks for such an informative video!

It's nice hearing other people out there who feel the same as I do !

I still love you guys! this helped.. thank you

2:55 "I didn't wanna be gay about it" haha I died 😂

i'm a trans guy and even though i know a decent amount about nonbinary identity, this was still a brilliant video!!! really interesting discussion from both of you, thanks so much

I think a big issue people can have with it is that it kinda reinforces gender stereotypes, even though that is the opposite of what nb people stand for (i presume). I mean.. it's basically saying you can't completely be a man because you like wearing dresses or completely be a woman because you don't like being super feminine. And that's a mindset people have been fighting for soo long

This is nice to see. I identify as nonbinary as well and have had similar experiences when I went to school in New York. It shed a bad light on it as well, even though I knew i identified as it. It was rather militant and I just didn't vibe with them and didn't want to be associated with them. Of course they all had reasons to be but it's hard for allies who come to support to try to learn in that environment. It's hard for nonbinary people to even be around that environment as well so I can't imagine how it feels for cisgender people.

"Fart on your binary", Jake Edwards 2017

With my sexuality and stuff I have is so badly I’m pansexual, non-binary, and demisexual. So I’m constantly getting people saying that it’s not really and that I’m just trying to get attention.

For fuck sake. Look at me grinning at these two like the soft piece o'shit i am. We love you guys.

I have work in the morning, but I got this notification so screw sleep got to watch this amazing cinnamon bun 💜💜💜💜

'*kiss* 'Yay gay' My heart

they're so cute, i love the two of them... moreover, the videos are always like helpful to me

I've literally watched this video like 3 times because it's really helpful

I LOVE THIS THANK YOU

People have told me that being bi isn't real, and that i would "pick a side"

@Mrbloblobob

7 жыл бұрын

fangirl crazy Honestly, being bi is so valid. l.g.B.t. You're in the four letter acronym, I'm a P for pansexual so. You're valid. Don't listen to the people who tell you to pick a side. You are allowed to like anyone you want.

I love just watching you two and letting my mind go back and forth seeing masc. and fem and ending up liking you two for both. I end up just liking you for who you are. Wish more people could watch you.

this was a good discussion. thanks for uploading

People should just stop labelling people. Everyone is an individual. Jake is just Jake, Alex is just Alex. I am just Jen...why must we stick labels on people.

Thank you so much Jake I really loved this video, it really broadened my understanding of non-binary people and the community ❤

this makes a lot of sense considering how Jake's gender expression has changed since I started watching. also, they really are more chill, for real.

They're so perfect, I started watching a couple years ago and they've grown so much and I can't!

PREAAAAACHHH. This video was amazing

I'm a trangender -gay- guy and still I wear makeup from time to time, and skirts, or crop tops. I think everyone can be whatever the hell they want as long as they are happy.♥

My babes

I haven't watched them in two years just cuz I've gotten into other channels and being busy and watching KZread less but I saw this and barely recognized them. They've grown up so much and look amazing!

I absolutely loved it when you @jake came out as non-binary! I always adored you and loved your confidence, but then finding that you are like me made me so happy inside!!!

Their voice really reminds me of Daniel Radcliffe's voice

@DefaltTzimisce

7 жыл бұрын

C McCloy i agree with u

@REALBeezle

6 жыл бұрын

C Spooky Alex's voice, or Jake's?

I completely agree. Pronoun questions do really upset me, even though I really appreciate people taking the time to ask me! I fee like I'm not passing enough and even though you don't HAVE to pass to be trans, I want to pass and I want to be seen as a cisgender male.

You two bring me so much joy.

I went to a gay picnic and as a lot of us hadn't met we did actually sit down and ask peoples names and pronouns because we didn't want to offend and most of them were gender fluid, a few like me weren't and some were trans so decided to say trans so he/him or they/them will work but I find it so hard to always use they and quite often he or she slips out and I always feel so fucking bad but the amazing thing is, is that they are really chill and don't mind so praise Jesus. So sitting in a circle is actually really useful in a huge group ya know?

I really need some advice so i guess I would say I'm confused about how I feel I don't really feel all that comfortable as a girl but I don't feel comfortable being changing to a different gender and I'm just confused and scared and I don't know I just don't know anyone who I can turn to

@GleekOff

7 жыл бұрын

It's not about changing your gender but about understand who you are and what words define you the best

@MERCHIODOS

7 жыл бұрын

All you need to know is what you feel comfortable in. For a long time I thought I wanted to be a woman, but after a few years I grew to like the body I'm in. So I came out as Genderqueer. Seeing what gender you are takes times. You don't want to rush into transitioning and then realised it was a mistake. It took me a long while to figure who I was, and it could be the same for you. Just remember what ever gender you become, you'll be happy

@naomirmckay3368

7 жыл бұрын

I would suggest ignoring labels for the time being. If you can, take a good friend or trusted family member and go shopping with them, even just to browse. Try on some clothes, different ones, ones you would never wear usually and see how you feel in them. (Try mixing and matching women's and men's.) If you can't do that them drag everything out of your closet, organise them from most masc to most femme, and do the same thing. Even if you don't have a sudden revelation about your gender, find what makes you most comfortable, and then you can wear that whenever you're feeling confused about your identity. It helps settle my mind. Hopefully it will yours too.

@austinlam8145

7 жыл бұрын

just do what makes you happy and what makes you comfortable. maybe you'll find that your trans or maybe you'll find out that you're not but it's just important that you do what makes you comfortable and don't dwell on it too much

@mbradlegavan1269

7 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I understand you so much! I was there too! Personally how I found out who I was was that I just ignored the labels and try to home in on what felt right and what felt wrong (by not means am I saying you should do this too, just a suggestion). Sometimes if you give yourself a label you could feel pressured to sign to the stereotypes - this might be because you've 'labeled' yourself too early - you can feel worser in the long run. But if you ever get asked 'what's your gender?' don't worry too much about it because as you grow you will change and like most of us, you just need time to put the language to how you feel.

Wow. It has been so long since I've watched either of you on your channels and I just have to say, you two look great.

love you both! Hi jake! 😄

As a gay women, I accept everyone, but I don't think we should ask people their pronouns, unless you know they identify as what they do. Like the couple that didn't want their baby gendered. That's a personal thing, and it irks me off so much. No one has the right to choose for you what you identify as; gay, les, bi, trans, non-bi, and so on. People just need to be open-minded that these things are newly introduced and it takes time to understand

I missed your faces together and thanks for doing that I feel like I again learned a lot from you two just talking

Great vid as always guys! :)

“Whispers from the internet” my favorite phrase

WOW, grown up video from two grown up (but still) QTs.