Two notes to make for this video: 1. Whilst I recorded in 60fps, the frame rate was not as stable as I would have hoped, so the frame rate is more accurately described as 40-60fps. 2. I followed the manual to try and understand the signalling, but the manual wasn't overly clear. If I made any mistakes with how I responded to the signals, please feel free to let me know here!

@inactive4375

5 жыл бұрын

Hi PTGrail, that challenge you mentioned in your video of the class 395 I decided to try the 24 videos in 24 days challenge. Great video mate, I knew you'd make a video on the LIRR.

@DukeDudeston

5 жыл бұрын

Sign of quality DLC if things arent clear, especially in a simulator where you'd expect it to be more in depth.

@joetab9265

5 жыл бұрын

There are actually supposed to be speed signs in the game as well as whistle boards. I was disappointed when I saw that the only speed sign was at Nostrand Avenue station. Another thing: the horn. On the LIRR, you do not have to sound the horn approaching, passing, or leaving a station unless there is a level crossing before or near it. The general American grade crossing rule is to sound the horn in two long blasts, then one sharp blast, and finally a long blast while the cab itself crosses the level crossing. You should always strive to do this, including at places where the crossings are not that many yards apart. Otherwise, great video! I'm so glad my favorite train YTer did a vid on the Long Island Railroad (I'm from Long Island)

@PTGRail

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info, Joe. I was wondering why I never seem to see speed signs in routes around New York. It seems that DTG has miss them out then ? I can’t help but wonder why! I didn’t realise that the usual horn rules apply on this route, with the exception of not needing to sound the horn approaching or departing a station. Again, there’s no whistle boards which I presume are there in real life? This lack of signs really does make things quite challenging for me. Glad you enjoyed the video! And thanks for the favourite KZreadr comment, I’m flattered!

@joetab9265

5 жыл бұрын

No problem! Glad to help! :) Can you also do a video on Hicksville to NYP or vice versa, whenever you have the chance? Have a great day/night!

few notes. 1) No bell on any EMU trains on the LIRR 2)You cannot increase speed with the ADU speed limit because 1) the ADU does not always reflect track speed and 2) You must wait for the tail end of the train to clear previous lower speed limit. When you left Hempstead, as soon as you saw the ADU upgrade to "60" your rear end was still inside of the "15" mph speed limit. 3) In the Northeast USA any speed signs are unreliable. Engineers must know the route like the back of their hand, and on the LIRR prior to becoming certified you must draw every branch on paper with signal locations, station, switches, and speed limits. 4) As a general rule of thumb-you can hit full length station platforms comfortably at 45mph and still make a station stop, and half size platforms at 35mph.

@Disnydude1

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Tanisha. Do you work the LIRR? Conductor, Motorperson? (Can't say motorman anymore. Right?) Queens IS STILL my home in my heart and soul. LawnGisland ALWAYS!!!!!!!

@lordhumor6541

4 жыл бұрын

This was amazing & informative, thank you

Also, Hillside is actually the employee-only station that is used for Hillside Facility Maintenance Complex, which is that big building you saw to your left. Select trains stop there, but only for employees to alight and board.

@matthewkessler2366

5 жыл бұрын

Generally, Hempstead and Ronkonkoma Branch trains stop @ HMF

Operating rules differ drastically from many railroads around the USA. Though the LIRR and MNRR are ran both by the MTA, there rule book is really different. An example is when entering a station on MNRR like the New Haven line, they sound the horn before each station. The LIRR does not do this. Both railroads do not require a double horn blast or even a single horn blast when departing stations. Except at Jamaica(LIRR) just to alert an employee walking on the tracks in that area. Bells are a weird issue with American Electric Multiple Units, just remember that if it has one then use it. LIRR has speed boards for every speed change on there territory. This excludes tracks west of Woodside since that is Amtrak territory. This is also said for horn/whistle boards before each Grade crossing. LIRR has no quiet zones, and horns must be blown 24/7 for each Grade crossing. It's the usual FRA 14L, Long Long Short Long sequence. When leaving and entering the tunnels into Manhattan, the same should be done. Another thing, Hillside is not shown because it's for employees from the adjacent central maintenance facility. One unify thing is that American signals might look different, but they all represent speed. Each signal aspect has a name and speed rule to go with it. I am in the interview process with the LIRR for the Locomotive Engineer position, so this flashcard study list signals only for the LIRR - quizlet.com/79398679/lirr-signals-flash-cards/. Anyway, I really enjoy your videos and I learned alot about Bristish Rail from your videos and that German signaling guide was a blessing. Thanks.

@CentralJerseyRailfan

5 жыл бұрын

Etho Smith Same thing with NJT when departing a station. I noticed many passenger trains don’t do 2 short horn blasts before leaving. Regarding bells on EMUs, it’s baffling why the EMUs in the Northeast lack them but the ones in Denver and Chicago do.

@PTGRail

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the info, Etho. That’s very helpful to know! :)

@cryptokilla8620

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Etho Smith , I’m studying my signals and definitions right now for my exam in May :) Any tips or recommendations? :) -Steven Trejo

@Railrat420

5 жыл бұрын

CryptoKilla study all day everyday. Don’t stop studying. It’s easy once you get them down.

@matthewkessler2366

5 жыл бұрын

The signals will be easy once you get them down and then begin the definitions.

Thank you dude. I was stuck in one area for hours and this video helped me a lot. I will make sure to share this video. Thanks a lot

Nice work Pete you drove it like a pro

You pass through my town at 18:00! Never thought I'd see it in a video game.

@mikemathis4591

4 жыл бұрын

Er, sorry, I mean simulation

Very informative and useful video, thank you very much for the help!

They should add the announcements for the LIRR in TSW!!

@damianc.0.681

3 жыл бұрын

For every route it would be amazing

@gabrielcolon8900

3 жыл бұрын

yes

21:45 - Hillside isn't actually for passengers lol. It's an employee only stop, which serves that maintenance facility you passed.

@TheMetroologist

5 жыл бұрын

@@GodAtum That's a completely different thing. The name Hillside was borrowed from that station for the facility.

@ssbohio

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMetroologist The maintenance facility: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillside_Facility?wprov=sfla1

How do you know the different speeds to run the lines?

Nice video! Hillside Station is located adjacent to a maintenance facility where the LIRR maintains their electric fleet. The station is only used by LIRR Employees. This is why you won’t find it on any maps

P.S, for your Amtrak video. Amtrak "NEC" trains only sound there horn when entering a station with bell use. When departing a station they activate the bell until the locomotive has cleared the platform. The long long short long horn sequence is also done for both sets of tunnels entering and leaving Manhattan. And just dim headlights for approaching trains to not blind them. Good luck. A cool fact is that the conductor radios the engineer when to depart by saying this, ex "Conductor of Amtrak 185 to the Head of 185, Highball New York Penn". The Engineer replies after looking at the current cab signal aspect, ex " Amtrak 185 has clear indication highball New York Penn".

I grew up in the area of the HOLLIS station of the LIRR. You can't find the HILLSIDE station stop, because it is for employees only. As you pass Hollis, that complex on the left is the LIRR Maintenance shops, and there for the Hillside station for employees. Also to note. Your on the wrong side of the 4 track main line. The line to the left and the one that your on are EAST BOND off peak, the two lines on the right are WEST BOND off peak. During morning Rush you would be on the correct line. 3 tracks West bound morning rush hour. And 3 tracks East bound evening rush hour. One other note. As you depart Bellerose station, the crossovers are to move west bound traffic to the two right hand track and also merging of the other main branch that you see on your right side before you enter Bellerose station. That is a major junction. And as you approach Hollis station on your left there is a dwarf home signal that protects the Hollis Leed track to the Maintenance shops from the main line. Thank you for the video. This was a first ever of my home railroad area in a simulator. very well done. Thank You Gregory

2002/2004? They look like they’ve been released yesterday!

On normal TS I find driving the New York-New Haven route REALLY frustrating, those signalling systems are really intrusive.

Why are there two different types of tones on the ATC ?

Can we get a part 2 from Atlantic Terminal to Hicksville?

what is that warning you keep on getting where the red bar lights up on the speedometer screen

complimenti per il video

i wish we had theatre route indicators here in america

Great video, Peter! But one thing: how did you manage to record that high speed train fly-pass clip? As the camera move within TSW is very hard to move faster than the train itself.

How do you get the LIRR?

I wanna see the Great Eastern Mainline on Train Simulator but like the full line and other lines that go from London Liverpool Street to Norwich, Colchester Town to Clacton and all the other coastal towns like that

Nice

Hi ptgrail I'm new to your channel I have an ex box one how do u unlock this route or do I have to buy it

@112Haribo

5 жыл бұрын

yes you have to buy it to be able to use it.

The run starts at 7:30 after the cab set-up 😁

Great video, thx. I assume that this route is one of the busiest route, so where other trains are? Unfortunately the new Dovetail world is very empty :-(

@PeterTOrganist

5 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree, there is no atmosphere. They create lovely routes and stock but then the rest of it doesn't live up to it. Service mode is poor apart from GWE and as you say no atmosphere. Take the WSR, in real life it is a hive of activity with enthusiasts, families on a day out, photographers, volunteers, in the TSW version you get the same few figures as the other routes. The beaches are empty, the roads are empty, a shame really.

@Beastlysimmer_uk

5 жыл бұрын

It’s because of the console capabilities so they feel as though we having the same experience as pc, I believe.

@sparrow-hawk2706

5 жыл бұрын

@@Beastlysimmer_uk But this movie has been taken based on the PC version of game. Console - light traffic, PC - heavy traffic, is It big deal for DTG to do it? Many games runs on consoles and PC's and they don't limit the PC version. Not only on this route the new DTG world is empty. I passed four scenarios on the Leipzig route last week. In the every scenario there were only two other trains, the wave of green lights, and no dynamic events.

@Beastlysimmer_uk

5 жыл бұрын

Sparrow - hawk yeah I do t really know, I was just guessing but your right

in real life the speed limit signs on the lirr have black numerals on a yellow diamond background. there are also 'w' posts for grade crossings. in the US the horn is to be sounded as --.-

Very difficult without any speed signs! What's your pc specs it looks great?

@PTGRail

5 жыл бұрын

I'm running with an Intel Core i7 4790k processor, 16gb DDR3 1833 RAM, and an Nvidia GTX 980 graphics card. :)

Three mistakes I noticed. One, Nassau is pronounced Nass-saw. Secondly, Bellerose is pronounced Bell-rose. Finally, Hillside is an employee-only station. That's why it's not on the official LIRR map. Greetings from Long Island

Great video, just pointing out Nassau Boulevard was pronounced HALF correct, you got the NAS pert right, but the SAU is supposed to sound like SAW, NAS-SAW

@kinkisharyocoasters

Ай бұрын

just like in the bahamas

4:08 i noticed you said their was no bell it’s because it’s and electric train normally desiel trains have the bells on the LIRR the DM30AC has a bell

Hey , you can drive an Amtrak metroliner cab car from Sunnyside yard to Newark airport

Which graphic card do u use??

How do I turn on the light in the cabin?

@fredo2x625

3 жыл бұрын

And off on the whole train with the passenger?

hill side station is the main station for employees ONLY of the LIRR, its there main repair hub of there trains.

Should show the results screen at the end as I have no idea how punctual or how well you stayed in the speed limits.

Why when I charge brakes it doesn’t work

I try and charge the breaks and it’s not working

Did you really take off with all the doors open?

Something I noticed was the train didn't have any tail lights

Interesting, informative video as usual. The route and train look very good, however this is the first TSW route I haven't purchased (yet) as I had read that service mode was very sparse traffic wise (this affected the RT and NEC routes), this video appears to confirm that and also apparently doesn't cover all the branch lines. I have pre-ordered the new Trans-Pennine route which I am looking forward to.

@MisterTnT2

5 жыл бұрын

No pre order!

@PeterTOrganist

5 жыл бұрын

@@MisterTnT2 What do you mean, no pre-order?

@MisterTnT2

5 жыл бұрын

@@PeterTOrganist Don't you know the meme that you should not pre order and I think you shoudn't because you dont know what you will get when buying it

@PeterTOrganist

5 жыл бұрын

@@MisterTnT2 Well thanks for your concern but I am old enough to make my own decisions about how I spend my own money! I have seen enough of the new route to know I will enjoy it, I don't appreciate being ordered about and don't really care what you think quite frankly!

@petrichorbreeze

5 жыл бұрын

I would advise to hold off on this route until editor is released. That way you have realistic traffic on the LIRR courtesy of content creators. The mainline from Penn - Jamaica is one of the busiest corridor of North American rail operations and the fact that it looks like a ghost-town here is a massive wasted opportunity.

Best to play at x2 too many low speed restrictions

Great job. Please make more USA TSW routes.

@Disnydude1

5 жыл бұрын

I too say GREAT JOB. Enjoyed the whole run.

Hillside facility isn't on the map as it's only for employees. Same with Boland's Landing between Jamaica and East New York

7:35 How about doors ?

Hillside is the LIRR's Hillside Maintenance Facility. Its not actually a station stop.

The M7 EMU is actually the only train in the long island railroad DLC

Can you do a route learning on the new route Lyon-Marseille?

@joshyfowler1997

5 жыл бұрын

He is going to, don't worry

@PTGRail

5 жыл бұрын

Already planned! :)

@joetab9265

5 жыл бұрын

Ooh, can't wait!

@TrainzEchelleN

5 жыл бұрын

PTGRail thank you very much

Also your marker lights were of at the rear of the train

@mersedesbenz100

5 жыл бұрын

This is actually a DTG problem where they didn't script for the marker lights to come on for the rear cab when you turn on your headlights.

Great! Do you plan to cover Atlantic Terminal to Hicksville in another video?

@huncho1057

5 жыл бұрын

CentralJerseyRailfan unfortunately, there isn’t any services from Atlantic to Hicksville because the services don’t run like that in real life.

@CentralJerseyRailfan

5 жыл бұрын

Huncho alright thanks

@PrimaryConsult

5 жыл бұрын

@@huncho1057 Ronkonkoma line 2096 in the PM peak, and 2019 and 2031 in the AM peak do run between Atlantic and Hicksville.

@huncho1057

5 жыл бұрын

PrimaryConsult I’m on console, and I don’t see those services

@PrimaryConsult

5 жыл бұрын

@@huncho1057 Sorry, I was only addressing the portion of your statement that they do not run the service IRL. I would have been pleasantly surprised if they actually included one of those odd runs as an option (truthfully I was surprised at the Hempstead - NYP run from this video, that's fairly uncommon as well).

Hillside station is an employee only station that's why it's not shown on the map

Great Video As Always, Thinking Of Getting This In The Steam Sale Bit Disappointing There Is Not More AI Trains As This Is One Of The Busiest Routs In North America But It Looked Very Baron Instead.

When the cab signal indicator upgrades to a higher speed (i.e. from 15MPH to 70MPH), you have to let the train run its length before increasing speed. You immediately applied full throttle once getting that 70MPH code. Big no-no.

@PTGRail

5 жыл бұрын

Why? I totally understand it with line speed, but not signal speed. I don’t know of any other signal system that would require that, and as that information wasn’t supplied with this route nor reflected on the HUD, I drove the train in what appears to be the most logical manner. With the signal speed changing when not even at a signal, it’s difficult to even know when the full length of the train has passed this invisible point. The more I learn about different US railroad rules, the more confusing it becomes!

@6aNapoleon

4 жыл бұрын

I am a former LIRR Locomotive Engineer. This is how you determine when you have run your length:. It takes 9 seconds for one pair of cars to pass a fixed point at 15PH. AT 30 MPH, it takes 4.5 seconds. At 60 MPH, 2.25 sec., and so on. Since LIRR MU trains always operate in a set number of pairs, you simply multiply the single-pair speed by the number of PAIRS in the consist to derive the elapsed time before you can increase your speed. For example, at15PH, it takes 36 seconds for an 8-car train to run its length (i.e., 9 sec. x4 PAIRS). AT 30 MPH, it takes 18 sec., and so on. Once you become familiar with the route and the normal upcodes, you will be able to pick a point along the right-of-way that corresponds with the required time to run your length. It helps if you create a table with the calculations and put it on an index card.

Who calls the LIRR a Subway?

What a complex routine. I hope American drivers are well paid.

@mikeytrains1

4 жыл бұрын

Triplex 29 They really are! On the LIRR an engineer can make between $60,000 and $90,000 a year, as well as have their own insurance, pension, and even benefits. Despite how hard a job it is, it really is worth it!

Anyone know the release date of the transpennine dlc for this game?

@joelangley7974

5 жыл бұрын

Railway Rambler 13th December I think the sale is on until so I'm guessing it will be released around then

@PeterTOrganist

5 жыл бұрын

@@joelangley7974 I think they have confirmed it to be the 13th

@joelangley7974

5 жыл бұрын

Peter Thomson I thought it might have been, cheers 👍

Dovetail should include M1s and M3s in the LIRR scheme.

@AustinFVIXV

5 жыл бұрын

GettingToImmortal i live sandwiched between the ronkonkoma and montauk branches, man would i love to see NYAR and older M1 and M3s aswel as the DE and DM units

I’m holding the charge breaks but the psi isn’t going up

@johnpro2847

4 жыл бұрын

try adjusting the view with the mouse wheel .. Had same issue until i found this adjustment of viewpoint worked.Also Make sure reverser in forward and brakes on full ..not emergency.

You know it’s okay to go 15 mph on switches right. I personally would have gone 20mph because it’s less sharp than other signal switches

ptg rail how come you didn't stop

@PTGRail

5 жыл бұрын

I stopped at all scheduled stops.

Hillside is an MTA facility. Its only meant for employees.

I can't get my train to move!! How in the hell do I get the train to MOVE?!!

Great video there Pete, I can't seem to put my finger on it, but find TWS just don't have that pull as did TS when I first saw it. Really seems too regimented for a game, the person playing doesn't have to do much other than follow what is on the HUD for the most part and even in game it tells them where to stop. I mean in TS you have to try at least remember how to set up a train, this is more point and I will show your next move. TSW seems to be all lights and no depth. But as always with you show off something to the fullest. Thank you once again.

@NextSound170

5 жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree, driving in TS you know a little about train driving

@DukeDudeston

5 жыл бұрын

This 100% TSW is a great game, I want to be clear I am not bashing it at all. However compared to its older brother it is lacking a lot. TS is great for the customisation, it has tools built in so you can make/edit routes, make your own scenarios, even add new assets (either paid or free) coupled with the fact you can pretty much drive how you like. Javelin on the Brighton line... why? Coz I can! HST to Portsmouth... again coz I can! 442 on the Isle of Wight... all together.. coz I can! Its that freedom we love, not even mentioning the years and years worth of extra DLC expanding on the game, workshop content that merges / extends lines. Once you have all that at your disposal, "High res ultra realistic" graphics just isnt enough. TSW take a GWR HST from Paddington to Reading. TS take a GWR HST from Paddington to Plymouth (Penzance once JT finish the add on) Yeah TS wont look as pretty, but damn it be fun doing the whole journey. (Assuming game doesnt crash)

@NextSound170

5 жыл бұрын

@@DukeDudeston with 64bit and devs who test scenarios properly its amazing. That freedom was there from the beginning, TSW and Unreal Engine has taken it to a place we as gamers have never had. Lack of freedom. TSW is a nice photo but gets old the next day

Not a big fan of TSW, just so limited on what you can do, by watching this video will save me quite a few quid.

Its not on the map because that station is for lirr employees only

4th ;)

The route just feels too empty, it is supposed to be a very busy route no? glad I did not pre order like I was gonna, this just seems depressing

@Alrx7_

5 жыл бұрын

VelociforceGaming It’s not supposed to be a busy route.

@seiner0ne

5 жыл бұрын

@@Alrx7_ what do you mean its not supposed to be a busy route?

I live in queens NYC and I take the LIRR to my sex friends apartment 2 blocks from penn station

i cant charge my brakes, im holding it but nothing happens

@lordhumor6541

4 жыл бұрын

Royale dejdmlvr Took me trial & error to figure it out: Put your reverser forward , then the brake @ Max Break then charge your breaks.

@srennicolaisen1068

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordhumor6541 Thanks for that info. Spent 30 min on that..

First I guess?

I’m holding the break charge and it’s not doing shit

Second!

Signal speed vs line speed is extremely confusing and I don’t know how they expect anyone to know what speed they should be going .... the game is very poorly done in this respect.