Being a tomboy is way different than gender Identity

@etcchappy1221

4 жыл бұрын

Girl thank you being a tomboy does not mean “ omg maybe I should’ve been a boy” no ok it just means you like things boys like

@abigml

3 жыл бұрын

gullippa9 ah yes because i’m a tomboy that means that i’m a man

@aurorasiye6205

3 жыл бұрын

@@beee8720 I was a tomboy when I was a child. I hated skirts, never liked them. Felt itchy and unstylish on me. I wore shorts and long pants all the time, nothing pink. But I never wanted to be a boy. I just think boy clothing suits me better.

@gh0st469

3 жыл бұрын

facts

@squishypillow6673

3 жыл бұрын

Periodt

Parents of LGBT+ kids vs traditional parents

@jamesbarden4790

5 жыл бұрын

Caitlin B or supportive parents of trans kids vs unsupportive parents of trans kids (or lgbt kids in general)

@sammieleestransky5017

5 жыл бұрын

I was just going to write this...geesh. Lol

@0ut.the.0x

5 жыл бұрын

Or Supportive Parents vs Traditional Parents, cause traditional parents may have lgbt kids

@rachelsmet2532

5 жыл бұрын

Yeeees

@tessaberner4757

5 жыл бұрын

Jesss!

Nailed it. Men being predators is the common thread on the bathroom debate

I love these!! But I wish youtube didn't require so much self-censoring because I would've liked to see them get a little deeper. You could tell they were ready to as well.

@saszablaze1

Ай бұрын

what do you mean self censoring? who self censored?

Doesn’t it frustrate you when you can’t interfeen into a conversation

@kobejordan8165

4 жыл бұрын

Ana Escobar so fuckin much

@karenruiz1799

4 жыл бұрын

Literally!!!! when homegirl was associating gender with DNA and chromosomes and being either “male or a woman” I just…. sigh.

@goodwilliam7

4 жыл бұрын

Intervene* not being an asshole just making sure its there because that sounds like something I would type.

@Smyle001

4 жыл бұрын

@@karenruiz1799 she was right tho

@karenruiz1799

4 жыл бұрын

@@Smyle001 nah.

the worst thing is listening to a conversation you cannot talk in..

@nia3555

3 жыл бұрын

Right

@sour.icecream2230

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr 😞

@gee1271

3 жыл бұрын

Omg this! Like i would love to work on set, the amount of soundbytes i would give..unprofessional 😂

@daisymayxoxo

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@psketch

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha true!

If I say "I am a trans tomboy" (Which is true), the entire argument falls apart. Gender does not equal gender expression.

@whoknowsatthispoint7508

Жыл бұрын

Im a trans boy, but I like wearing dresses sometimes. What now??

@Highwizardd

Жыл бұрын

gender is only sex stereotypes that u internalized.

@anakinskywalker1886

Жыл бұрын

Gender identity is a 2000's thing, it was never a thing in the past

@Toastroony

Жыл бұрын

That’s confusing like you identify as female but ur a tomboy

@anakinskywalker1886

Жыл бұрын

@@piggybank2906 Well yes it existed, but it was never any where NEAR as big a thing as it is today, which is why I lose faith in this generation that we have normalised it.

Men are men, women are women.

@ArgonmentYT

10 ай бұрын

I don’t think anyone disagrees with that lol

@nataliekhanyola5669

10 ай бұрын

trans men are men and trans women are women!

@mackenziet550

9 ай бұрын

(not really though) @@nataliekhanyola5669

@eeng17

9 ай бұрын

​@@mackenziet550yes really though

@Snookyboo

9 ай бұрын

​@@eeng17so what is a woman than? Like one that actually has a V that's capable of pushing out a child

If there was at least one straight man , this would be entirely different

@noahd.4551

4 жыл бұрын

Salim Sadoune I cant tell if your trying to say straight men are more transphobic or something or if your comment is accidentally sarcastic.

@m_winewood

4 жыл бұрын

@@noahd.4551 I think its that a guy would ask the uncomfortable questions we came here for. And not "transphobic" just less likely to accept the messy stuff without sufficient explanation.

@FR-eu3ch

4 жыл бұрын

@i wonder if you're reading this I'm sorry that that's your experience, I've actually found men to often be a lot more open-minded and kind than how you're describing them to be.

@hoodievids9791

4 жыл бұрын

There is a different because strait and “traditional”

@thegumonsomeshoe

4 жыл бұрын

straight, heterosexual, that's different from being"traditional" or "cis"...

By the way. If y’all didn’t know, transgender is not a 3rd gender

@thecabinetman9025

4 жыл бұрын

PERIODT👏👏👏👏👏

@bellarodriguez3601

4 жыл бұрын

Tessa Comfort I never said I disagreed with any of that so why r u going at me, I was making it clear because ppl in the comments were saying there’s only 2 genders and trans isn’t real

@parisgharbi1903

4 жыл бұрын

@@bellarodriguez3601 tessa wasn't going at u, Tessa was replying to someone who commented under ur comment so thats why it seems Tessa is replying to u

@darianbazelais9634

4 жыл бұрын

There’s only 2 genders trans is just hopping from one to another

@gageshort9801

4 жыл бұрын

Excuse me I am heavily offended and you have offended my fellow tower brothers (Yes we identify as towers)

love how supportive people were to all the perspectives and views shared : )

It’s wild seeing people get guilted/peer pressured into stepping forward when you can tell they didn’t initially intend to.

@sierramist446

22 күн бұрын

It might be better if they had to make the decision anonymously and then they just showed up with the others to discuss

omg the trans woman looked so sad when they said she was a 100% male :(

@gumi_days4384

3 жыл бұрын

yeah but at the same time... is it really a healthy and stable way to live than having your entire sense of self depending on thoughts and words of others...? One's existence should not dependent on how other perceive them. Although i can understand it hurts for her, but i think it gives rise to an important and interesting subject in the transgender community.

@sircabooci4506

3 жыл бұрын

@A M. i can't like this more because the like button does not allow me

@bigc198387

3 жыл бұрын

He

@daria8950

3 жыл бұрын

@A M. Absolutely agree with everything you said!!!

@jsuisunarc-en-ciel3119

3 жыл бұрын

@@gumi_days4384 Yes, I often say the trans community has a recipe for low self worth on their hands because they seek the validation of others which is something in life we should never do. Self love teaches you to seek validation from within. But trans people live for “you are so valid 🥰” comments, and constant affirmation through other means. It’s a very unstable situation when your whole identity relies on the validation you receive from the general public. I don’t mean this in a hateful way, it’s just something I’ve noticed.

Why only women representing "traditional"

@xnet_cascade6257

4 жыл бұрын

Leo Phillips cuz when a guy does it he’s labeled as sexist

@marylawrence2218

4 жыл бұрын

@@xnet_cascade6257 Nah the women are sexist too

@eldangster1616

4 жыл бұрын

FORREST GUMP she called men predators. I’ve never met one predator guy in my life and I’m a guy and I’m not a predator! WTF Logic

@marylawrence2218

4 жыл бұрын

@@eldangster1616 lmao you've never met some predatory men in your life and your guy? Shocking lol Also Logic is knowing anecdotes aren't evidence also, she didn't say that men were predators. She said that the fear that people are expressing is that men are predators

@marylawrence2218

4 жыл бұрын

@FORREST GUMP Pst they are. Reducing women and men to reproductive function is gross.

That’s how I feel as a dude. I actually love wearing feminine clothes like skirts and cute underwear and doing makeup and hair. But I know I’m a dude, I have a strong and passionate personality, love to take charge, be physically active and I’m still sexually attracted to women and have absolutely no desire to be in a woman’s bathroom. Unfortunately for me though, femboys are much more taboo than tomboys and there’s almost no way I can embrace these interests without being labeled trans or gay. People seem to think the two are inseparable but they’re really not. Gender norms and standards are really the problem.

@kinggkongg9694

2 жыл бұрын

Genders not a social norm

@sakshinaresh8114

2 жыл бұрын

@@kinggkongg9694 gender is a social construct. You are confusing gender with sex. Sex is biological.

@kinggkongg9694

2 жыл бұрын

@@sakshinaresh8114 No it’s not Your confusing fantasy land with reality. You can’t change your gender anymore than you can change your age

@sophiejones304

Жыл бұрын

You are just being you. In my opinion we are all in spectrum; even we are physically male or female, we all possess in a degree qualities, personalities and characteristics of both genders. I am a female, but growing up i was a tomboy, now that I am older I realized that I have a lot of male characters like being firm, frank, independent, practical and passionate. Physically I am naturally muscular, even though I exercise very little. I could have been confused, but I know I am a girl and only been attracted to men

@itlaire6873

Жыл бұрын

Stop that and go to the gym mf

I don’t care how the adult feels in this, the bathroom situation. The childs feelings and safety comes first

@GrahamChapman

Жыл бұрын

The children's feelings on the matter will range from neutral to positive if they are raised in a safe environment to feel comfortable with having other people around in public bathrooms, and their safety is not compromised by trans people being allowed into the bathrooms that conform to their gender identity: Trans people being banned from bathrooms has never prevented men from either raping women or sexually assaulting children.

@zachman5150

Жыл бұрын

@@GrahamChapman Kick Rocks Groomer. Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not

Playin it reeeal safe with no straight guys...

@B4d4pp13

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree with you anymore

@Mark-sn6kh

4 жыл бұрын

@taЊa N. That how you feel about something doesnt matter because science. Facts over feelings. Until I see "attack helicopter" as a gender anyway.

@ggoddf5889

4 жыл бұрын

@taЊa N. he means that there are no straight males in the conversation. Therefore there is no balance to thoss arguments

@ggoddf5889

4 жыл бұрын

@Big Hero B we mean biological males

@emilioa008

4 жыл бұрын

true dude like wtf bring some guys on

I get really pissed off when they change from their original seats.

@patrochilles6275

4 жыл бұрын

Or when they sit together rather than on their respective side

@averybrooks8537

4 жыл бұрын

Thank god someone said it.

@rohan34

4 жыл бұрын

But that's the beauty.. they get mixed up by the end... Signifies them opening up

@badbunnysnovia9176

4 жыл бұрын

Hello Fellow Refugees it still don’t feel right

@0s0young75

4 жыл бұрын

Facts 💯

I really enjoyed this, such a respectful conversation.

Such a respectful conversation. Even though some of the terms weren't quite accurate, still it was nice to see people on opposite sides still agreeing on most things.

@lopey5035

Жыл бұрын

Sorry people can't keep up with the nonsense you people make up every single day

@designner5151

Жыл бұрын

Accurate according to who exactly?

@jude1028

8 ай бұрын

U dropped this 🧠

@KookoCraft

5 ай бұрын

Goon

People often confuse genders with personalities.

@kambur1737

3 жыл бұрын

Could you please explain me the difference?

@homoerectus1119

3 жыл бұрын

Your personality is how you act and how you feel about different things or actions. Your gender is associated with reproduction. There are four genders. The two main genders (male and female) are normal. But there can be a mutation that can give you both male and female parts, or no male or female parts at all. No offence to anybody but “genders” like trans, fluid, gay and spirited are not real genders and are associated with how you feel about yourself and other people.

@sgs6991

3 жыл бұрын

Gay is not a gender. It's an orientation. Gay man identify as man but they are attracted to men. But I can agree gender it's not an entire personality on its own, because you're way more than your part of the spectrum or your expression... Just like, (maybe a bad example) if you're vegan that's ok, that's part of who you are/want to be, but being the "stereotypical vegan" all the time is not your whole personality, you're a unique human being not only based on one characteristic. Edit: grammar mistakes

@casseya9452

3 жыл бұрын

you’re confusing gender and sex

@guillemvidal1958

3 жыл бұрын

exaactly because we all know gender is umm what you sortaa... you know feel somehow, that's right.

People are actually mixing up having a masculine/feminine sense of style and gender-

@BrawlGenius

3 жыл бұрын

ikr

@persona7506

3 жыл бұрын

There is no masculine or feminine sense of style

@ella673

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@christopherreichle6670

3 жыл бұрын

@@persona7506 yes there is. Masculine people dress practical, feminine people dress flamboyantly/impractically

@lian7092

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherreichle6670 no , i disagree , even feminine people dess practicall , you can be feminie in anything if you know how or are feminine enough

I absolutely loved this debate the best one so far

I'm going to LA for college this year and I would love to work at Jubilee or be a part of this in SOME way because I know for a fact this is where I'm meant to be.

They should’ve included men on the traditional side, missing the male perspective on this leaves this unbalanced for me.

@kristoffersparegodt420

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@coreyrush8894

4 жыл бұрын

Tori Collins yes because honesty men will speak their mind more

@emekaamerican863

4 жыл бұрын

Tori Collins thanks for telling me, now I'm definitely not going to watch

@Re-io3wy

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreyrush8894 and we are not?

@coreyrush8894

4 жыл бұрын

Reham _ I’m assuming that we means women?

this is unbalanced, a straight male was needed in this discussion

@elodi131

4 жыл бұрын

cis* sexual orientation didn't matter in this discussion

@crackbl0om244

4 жыл бұрын

ELODI kinda did they probably would have had better discussions then this

@Jaylio

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly I think the a male view would be more straightforward compared to the female one

@nha8909

4 жыл бұрын

@Seth Belfort same but we need both sides to be able to better the world

@valtemirov4584

4 жыл бұрын

@Seth Belfort big sad for me

This was surprisingly respectful and at the end of the day shows both sides are more similar than we think and it's mostly only misinformation about the other side's desires that drives us back

Thank you so much my beautiful friends , I am learning that we are not truly who we are because of the instilling of judgment within us since we were very small children and what is happening is that there is an image we hold of ourself as accepted by others so that we are not judged by them and so we have been playing that part of see how perfect I am so that you don’t judge me as something else that I’m not being , and it has caused us to be in judgement of the self non stop always judging every choice we make every thing we do or eat or act on or feel like we are in criticism of ourself so when we fearlessly step out into the world as who we are Inside and let go of the judging and lovingly accept our own self for who we are and how we wanna express ourself in our world then that is so beautiful and adds to the awakening of consciousness within mankind , and truly there is only concern and debate or argument when there is fear and all of the hypothetical situations are always coming from fear and they are not real unless we give the fear the power

Kinda sad that we only see "traditional" women perspectives. Men wouldve been interesting as well.

@pandalover660

5 жыл бұрын

Anie To I think they get volunteers

@getoffmygrass4857

5 жыл бұрын

They dont want our opinions trust me that's what these freaks call manplaining.

@yeah6281

5 жыл бұрын

I agreed

@rinad5915

5 жыл бұрын

@@getoffmygrass4857 mansplaining*

@remrushan

5 жыл бұрын

King Jinzo freaks? i think you’re the freak. also, do you live in 1925 by chance?

When the trans-woman said “I didn’t start transitioning until I was 32”, I got extremely confused bc I thought she was like 25😂

@yorrieminks4635

4 жыл бұрын

Same she looks so young

4 жыл бұрын

Yorrie Minks he*

@yorrieminks4635

4 жыл бұрын

Thanos forgot about s there bud. It’s she

@maxkemsley6931

4 жыл бұрын

@ Intentionally deriding someone is a pretty shitty thing to do and I think you ought to reconsider how much calling someone 'he' really means to you before making snide remarks next time. It's not your life, don't live it for them, bud.

@petersoncarvalho5817

4 жыл бұрын

Yay my wig went AWAY!

I’d like to put something to say that as a trans person myself I kind of agree with both sides, I can see where it’s hard to get past or not think about how there are only two biological choices I love and respect these people for sharing their beliefs in a kind and respectful way, I feel that I’m blessed to be in a community of Christians like this even though I myself am not Christian, when it comes to gender I think that we can use biological gender like bookends, as long as your talking about gender and gender identity’s you can only go from one side to the other and the inbetween I think it was makes the spectrum, I think our minds are powerful and beautiful and that if there is a creator it would make more sense for there to be bookends instead of every book being represented, a way of looking at it would be there are so many types of genders and people it’s easier to comprehend when you take the farthest on the left and the farthest on the right and put them next to eachother so you see that everything that could be between these exists

Girl no, I am pretty tomboy and feel no pressure at all to transition FTM lol

@dondog3123

Жыл бұрын

Same, im a very girly femboy, and it doesnt pressure me into transition MTF, i dont want to change a single bit about my body, i just have interests that are rather typically feminine and crossdressing. I know my gender from my pants 💀💀

there's a difference between being tolerated and accepted.

@whitneygaston9377

5 жыл бұрын

Joyce Cruz Exactly! 👏🏾

@awkwardanya3135

5 жыл бұрын

Or being accepted or being embraced.....

@Billy-gr1rx

5 жыл бұрын

it is not obligatory to accept, toleration is though.

@awkwardanya3135

5 жыл бұрын

@@Billy-gr1rx That's what I was saying.

@awkwardanya3135

5 жыл бұрын

@Jamal BBCLife What I mean.

The fact that nobody brought up how sex and gender is different confused me

@fluttershysdragrace

3 жыл бұрын

ikr like the fact that they couldn’t distinguish that difference essentially invalidates the majority of their opinions.

@a_lil_bit_shady

3 жыл бұрын

Even the trans people didn't bring it up, like wut?

@x4kua

3 жыл бұрын

literally and the difference between clothing preference

@pao8801

3 жыл бұрын

IKR

@0Takethoserisks0

3 жыл бұрын

Bc they aren’t

I love how mature this conversation was.

Transgender vs Transracial now that's a topic I'd love to see

@zachman5150

Жыл бұрын

Transformers v transgenders would be fun too

@sbm9190

Жыл бұрын

@@zachman5150 haha

Upset they didn’t talk about gender dysphoria

@MysteriousBeingOfLight

4 жыл бұрын

yeah but thats a tuff one lmao

@guynotincognito6918

4 жыл бұрын

And also no one cares

@sarmaangel

4 жыл бұрын

@@guynotincognito6918 um, I'm sorry, what??????

@Robins_tea

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I really wish they would've done that

@mellowmorningsasmr3770

4 жыл бұрын

mercc they didn’t specifically talk about it But being trans is gender dysphoria and they had 2 trans ppl there

they should get trans people vs detransitioners

@thewholegalaxy3628

4 жыл бұрын

Orca id love to see how that goes

@m.e4752

4 жыл бұрын

Yes yes yes!!!

@kalystahenderson6736

4 жыл бұрын

Oooo good one!!!

@totallynotarussianspy5336

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like they’d have the exact ssme feelings

@princessashes8070

4 жыл бұрын

YES

Loved. This one. Thanks Jubilee ❤

before this video they should’ve went over the difference between gender expression, biological sex, and clothing preference :/

@beatrizpolak925

3 жыл бұрын

and that was the comment that i was looking for. thank u! after this video it just popped in my head who sexual education is so important! I learned those concepts in school!!

@liesl1918

3 жыл бұрын

jayysus fr

@endcities

3 жыл бұрын

is your profile picture george with no brim i- this makes your comment even better

@jayysus2726

3 жыл бұрын

@@endcities yesss george with no brim B)

@stratojagster7472

3 жыл бұрын

gender is the same as sex but now when you get into gender/sex roles those can be switched around and changed because those were set up by society but biology wasn't

"I didn't start transitioning until I was 32." Girl, you have a youthful glow I didn't think you were over 25

@Akira-rm8gc

3 жыл бұрын

@@sushmoyislam2858 no*

@amirimaxwell4814

3 жыл бұрын

honestly thought she was in her REALLY early 20's

@davidcamcho8335

3 жыл бұрын

Sushmoy Islam it’s a girl

@ringthebell5221

3 жыл бұрын

Ahhaahahahahahahajajahajaajjaajajahajajajahahajajahahahahahahahaha😂😂😂😂

@alecowo785

3 жыл бұрын

@@ringthebell5221 ??

Who cares if you’re scared of being judged. Everyone in life is judged. It’s part of growing up! Get over it!

@gsas3012

Жыл бұрын

True

loved this conversation. in most of the others there are people who talk over others and scream and just desagree . this one s different

This video got messed up because no one actually made the distinction between sex and gender.

@alejandravictoriacoda122

4 жыл бұрын

that's what i was gonna say. the cis were definitely talking about sex while gender in a whole different world. you can definitely be born a female, embrace it but still act androginous.

@mariaeduardaantoninodantas3485

4 жыл бұрын

YES!

@ObsidianAngiris

4 жыл бұрын

Jurnee Jurn it's the same thing, like man and male

@makuletreg15

4 жыл бұрын

Lol. Same thing

@VileCarnival

4 жыл бұрын

Mason Officially gender and sex are actually not the same thing. if they were, transgender people wouldn’t exist, yknow?

the trans woman really looks like a supermodel.

@tobygoertz1376

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@angelinascott5984

3 жыл бұрын

Literally her cheekbones need to be strutting down a runway ....

@rubymichelle7213

3 жыл бұрын

righttttt. i was so shocked when she said she came out at 33. i thought she was like 25 or something and she was beauu

@rubymichelle7213

3 жыл бұрын

beautiful *

@levi6782

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr like she’s so pretty

It's so hard, cuz the most of cis people can't even imagine what trans people are going through...

@zachman5150

Жыл бұрын

There's no need to imagine what others are going through. The objective reality is that they are not that which they claim to be, and still-- they insist that we perceive them as they perceive themselves, and deny objective reality.

happy= joyful calm= serenity Back in my day How you dress wasn’t your gender identity

I hate it when people say unscientific things by starting with "scientifically"

@doodlenerd4403

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY IT PISSES ME OFF SO BAD LIKE I JUST WANNA 🤜👩‍💼

@jae3004

3 жыл бұрын

meanwhile biologist, people who actually study chromosomes, psychologist, sociologist, and anthropologist are sitting there like: who's gonna tell them sex is a spectrum and gender literally depends on the society. we just happen to live in one that primarily relies on two binary genders. 😬 like a lot of this stuff isn't set in stone so its weird that she tries to be scientific then proceeds to spew something that scientist would disagree with.

@fahrenheit2101

3 жыл бұрын

@@jae3004 Sex is not a spectrum. Gender is. And NO, the words are not interchangeable.

@jae3004

3 жыл бұрын

@@fahrenheit2101 I mean you can disagree, but it's a fact. Look it up. If sex wasn't a spectrum we would only have XX and XY and people would always have the secondary sex characteristics of those chromosome patterns. A simple google search and a look though a scientific/academic database will show you.

@fahrenheit2101

3 жыл бұрын

@@jae3004 I did look it up. The sex spectrum is not so much a spectrum and completely unrelated. I even acknowledged the minority that do have gene disorders. This is entirely unrelated to the topic of the video and is not a spectrum in the same way, more like a set of categories. And 99% of people fall into 2: XX and XY. Edit: Nevermind I acknowledged that in a separate comment.

You can see the pain in her eyes when that cis girl said “I think you are 100% male” 😞

@dyingrat2439

3 жыл бұрын

ami it’s a trans girl not a boy actually, so u didn’t know but now you do

@victoriawhite4512

3 жыл бұрын

@Ashton A her sex is male but her gender is female. sex and gender are two different things and people confuse them a lot. there are 2 sexes but more than 2 genders. sex just means how you were born biologically which is what I think you were trying to say.

@zombk.

3 жыл бұрын

She’s biologically male. People, you can’t choose your gender. You’re born with it. Sooner you realize that, the sooner you’ll actually get to enjoy life normally.

@dyingrat2439

3 жыл бұрын

ZK Zainvu_HH and also, gender is not biological. Your sex is biological, not gender. Sex is what you have in your pants and your chromosomes (sometimes chromosomes) gender is pronouns, identity, personality, and being

@zombk.

3 жыл бұрын

@@dyingrat2439 gender isnt personality. You're either a male and a female. Others have the right to call you by your sex, not by what you identify as.

the hug at the end made me cry so much

The first question is literally the only question that matters. What happened to this world? The 3 ppl who didn't sit down for the first question need help. THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS

there’s a difference between being cisgender and being transphobic (edit: many people are taking this as me defending the cis people; i’m not, i’m saying the title is misleading since all the cis people in the video were transphobic, when in reality a large amount of cis people are trans allies)

@morganb9386

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@alyiahshirley9421

3 жыл бұрын

This needs more likes

@syprineotieno1443

3 жыл бұрын

💅💅💅♥️

@girlontheedge2636

3 жыл бұрын

yes the cis people were just ignorant

@angrycactus158

3 жыл бұрын

Also there a different between educated and trump supporters. (By trump supporters I mean people who do not care about being educated, having a conversation, anything they think they are right and that’s what it will be forever)

"there are only two genders" cis girls: *sit down* rory: baby i'm not even here

@Eeveeplayscookierun

3 жыл бұрын

IM A HALLUCINATION

@fawnxx.9231

3 жыл бұрын

they’re non binary tho? it’s not a gender...

@Eeveeplayscookierun

3 жыл бұрын

@@fawnxx.9231 It is a gender tho

@fawnxx.9231

3 жыл бұрын

@@Eeveeplayscookierun no.. the entire point of being non binary is not falling into gender roles/rules or perception. it’s literally just not identifying with anything which doesn’t make it a gender.

@kelychatz9485

3 жыл бұрын

@@fawnxx.9231 the whole point is that gender is a spectrum. if you don't see non binary as a gender then male and female aren't genders either. if you see non binary as a gender then there are multiple genders. non binary is not a BINARY gender and it most certainly IS NOT the third gender, as many people call it, but if you tell an enby what their gender is, they won't tell you "i don't have one" they'll tell you '"i am nonbinary"

I was a little scared when I started watching this video, but this was actually one of the more respectful debates I've seen, which was great to see.

To anyone this going though some sort of struggle, know that we always end up okay 🤎

Man these topics are really risky and every time I click to watch a video I get really scared.

@ozzyb6595

5 жыл бұрын

Jess Legati I've been waiting to see someone swing.

@abyxis

5 жыл бұрын

Oswaldo Bejarano I’m surprised nobody has

@connoranderson3380

5 жыл бұрын

My heartbeat died

@seanlynch2579

5 жыл бұрын

Jess Legati that’s because you’re weak and pathetic

@Shaolin-Jesus

5 жыл бұрын

that's exactly why they should be had so we can realize that it's possible to have these conversationss without being hateful or unsympathetic to one another.

do they not know the difference between biological sex, gender expression, and clothing preference?

@kgabomolele3346

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the words gender and sex have been used over the years synonymously so there isn't really a vast difference between the two because they are very interrelated, you can't have one without the other, so gender expression roots from sex anatomy that's why it's hard to seperate the two.

@Ariyferrari

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like they need to bring back the gender-bread man it’s an easy way to break it down for the ppl who don’t understand

@synnearonsen9963

3 жыл бұрын

@@kgabomolele3346 that’s not true, gender is a made up social construct which sits in once brain and identity. Sex is biological and determines certain things as medical care.

@kgabomolele3346

3 жыл бұрын

@@synnearonsen9963 everything single thing is a social construct, my point is that gender expression roots from sex, its what has inspired many societies worldwide to normalize certain gender roles for example toddler girls do less dangerous activities then toddler boys it's a fact you can do an experiment with nursery school babies and analyze their behavior, there is a nature (sex) that inspires gender expression that's why the two cannot be separated. So I'm not sure what you're confused about, there are two sexes only and this can be objectivsly verifiable

@kgabomolele3346

3 жыл бұрын

@roxie thank you

I was a tomboy in my younger ages but as I’ve gotten older I realise how lovely it is to wear nice things I wasn’t transgender

@zachman5150

Жыл бұрын

They conflate gender with personality

@donxx1206

10 ай бұрын

@@zachman5150 your conflateing gender and sex

I would love to see a bi sexual vs pan sexual discussion and seeing where people see the difference and the similarities people see in there sister sexualities

@sanidhay4841

2 жыл бұрын

There's not any discussion to do tho. Its very clear that Bi and Pan people validate each other's labels

@catisreckless4647

2 жыл бұрын

One is real, one is made up idiocy. Discussion over.

@DarkAngel2512

2 жыл бұрын

@@catisreckless4647 pan means you would fancy male, female or trans.

@catisreckless4647

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkAngel2512 Pan means you desperately seek attention and feel the need to "stand out". Nothing more.

@sanidhay4841

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkAngel2512 Bi means that as well, there is no difference except the words

I feel like the traditional side held back a bit and was worried about being pc.

@kujikawathemeekmage3640

4 жыл бұрын

Aiesha Mumford - because they weren’t educated on the situation at all

@kujikawathemeekmage3640

4 жыл бұрын

pAtRiCk StAr - I can tell by your comment you don’t know much about it either

@themarkyboi3185

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh At least they weren't males or else I would sexist

@AnkBert

4 жыл бұрын

@pAtRiCk StAr Let me just ask you, how can you be so sure of something that you can't relate to, or have researched? I'm non-binary myself and while I might not know the specific science (even though I could easily turn to a psychiatrist or a study to know more) I know that I'm non-binary because I'm not a guy, and I'm not a girl. I get euphoria when someone calls me they and I get anxiety when someone misgenders me a lot. I can understand how you think since people have for ages thought that your biological sex in every case is connected to the gender in your brain but gender dysphoria is real. It's a diagnosis and the only thing that can relieve the symptoms is to transition. You see being transgender isn't just about "today I feel like a girl" or "Today I feel like a boy" because to be transgender and not just someone who likes to dress as the opposite sex, you have to experience gender dysphoria.

@ylil-uz9le

4 жыл бұрын

@@kujikawathemeekmage3640 I can tell that because you didn't answer patrick star with any evidence that you CLEARLY aren't educated on the subject what so ever, your just as clueless as any trans person.

My brain hurts from binging on middle ground episodes

@imer5689

5 жыл бұрын

Alexis P. i feel u

@leys9290

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@shafarahmanifaza

5 жыл бұрын

Me too!!

@lifeoftalise4390

5 жыл бұрын

Alexis same

@aidiarivera

5 жыл бұрын

sameeeee

This went so smoothly!

The fact that biologically born men and women have now been labeled “cis” pisses me off. Drop the terms.

@sbm9190

Жыл бұрын

fr....im in a group of friends where their all lgbtq and one trans female to male and the trans always rips on me for being "cishet"...also he thinks you cant be racist to white people. ignorance infuriates me on both sides

"you're gonna be a boy or a girl" intersex people:👁👄👁

@wen7795

3 жыл бұрын

YES THEY'RE STILL VALID TOO!!

@astrvlis

3 жыл бұрын

SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT 👏👏

@thejellyfinn

3 жыл бұрын

Periodt.

@benedictdwyer2608

3 жыл бұрын

Nonbinanry people:👁👄👁

@happyskippers1470

3 жыл бұрын

@@presidentpoverty2640 intersex is biological, they are born that way

Where tf is that one guy from incel episode that would’ve made this episode crazy lmao

@ulledienulle8211

4 жыл бұрын

actually there aren't even 2 genders, since women are just the same as children - him propably

@kaylamedia6842

4 жыл бұрын

derrick

@dannysilva3210

4 жыл бұрын

@@ulledienulle8211 He did say that huh 😂. I forgot about that.

@raychulle

4 жыл бұрын

@@ulledienulle8211 omg i remember that AHAHA

@danasunbulli7436

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly why isn’t Derrick here

These traditional people should not be allowed to use their platforms.

Everything is easier than self acceptance.

when the trans female said “i didn’t start transitioning till i was 32” i was shook cuz she looks 25

@leahrosenberg8085

5 жыл бұрын

She must be a 🔥makeup artist

@mojohnson5134

5 жыл бұрын

N koyuncu stop it. It looks 45

@tuuku1706

5 жыл бұрын

pffftt, my ass he looked 25... i'd say like 40-42. He looks like a regular white mom that has an office job.

@meningenmedlivet711

5 жыл бұрын

@@tuuku1706 she*

@maestrokimpembe8979

5 жыл бұрын

Meningen med livet I think you mean HE*

When that lady said she perceived the other lady as 100% male my heart broke, I could almost feel her pain through the screen edit: guys I found the transphobes

@carrot6248

3 жыл бұрын

YES

@stydcgnvnhfmuj-9pufkhccfj990

3 жыл бұрын

MA HEART BROKE

@mk2escortvan

3 жыл бұрын

Biologically, she is 100% male. I think that's what she meant, though she should have clarified it, otherwise it's pretty mean.

@auxiz11

3 жыл бұрын

The question is simple and it can be prove by science. 100% accurate he is a male literally disect him get his DNA.. and he is a man.. It is based on fact not to offend..

@ohitsjulianbtdubz

3 жыл бұрын

They are both 100 percent human thats all that matters!

Men make babies, women have babies. It's really that simple.

@wobble4139

2 жыл бұрын

Not everyone wants to make and have babies

@dondraper3070

2 жыл бұрын

@@wobble4139 biologically these are the functions of male and female anatomy. Personal preference is one thing, arguing with science is another.....

@canelaramirez4041

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, simple. Cannot believe we are having debates about it every day 🤦🏽‍♀️

@dardick1213

2 жыл бұрын

@@dondraper3070 are sterile women not women?

@dondraper3070

2 жыл бұрын

@@dardick1213 of course they are...

I will never understand why people give a fuck about what someone else defines themselves by. Who honestly gives a fuck. You do you.

@jak_the_buddha

2 жыл бұрын

@Jaycee if you don't mind, can you give me an example of where it's "written into policy and law"? Furthermore, can you give me an example of a situation that would require said law to back someone and not the other in whatever situation you're describing?

I feel like both sides had kind of weak arguments and were afraid of being judged or shot down by the other. Like both sides just kind of went with what the other said

@pnut3844able

4 жыл бұрын

It's also bc Jubilee closely monitors what is said and tells them what they can't say and what ways they can't steer the convo.

@user-kc2xc8md1t

4 жыл бұрын

@marsjacobvolta mEn LOvE oBjEcTiVe TrUtH

@damianlord9340

4 жыл бұрын

@@pnut3844able how do you even know that?

@damianlord9340

4 жыл бұрын

Well duh. No one wants to be the person that everyone hates. In almost every video there are thousands of comments of people complaining about at least one person who has a different stance on something. These people know that this will go online and they censor their true thoughts because of it.

@MiguelGonzalez-du8de

4 жыл бұрын

@@damianlord9340 The thing is that most of these persons who have different stances, are usually on the "wrong" side of thinking that it's just not acceptable. Like in the Men's Rights video, most people were mad at the incel because his views were simply misogynistic, while in the feminist vs non-feminist, many people were complaining about the rad fem that said women are the only victims and men don't know what is to suffer

Your sex is your anatomy, your gender is who you really are, your personality is how you act, think about that

@tvds8350

3 жыл бұрын

Yep exactly

@Grey.01-

3 жыл бұрын

You said it perfectly sis 💅

@Clementine3107

3 жыл бұрын

Well what about sexuality , I confuse gender with sexuality .

@Clementine3107

3 жыл бұрын

I mean are transgender men lesbian and transgender women gay ? I do not mean to judge or offend anybody if I did I apologize just I m not educated on these stuff

@Grey.01-

3 жыл бұрын

@@Clementine3107 Lol no They do not consider themselves gay/lesbian. Or at least most of them dont.

The woman in the yellow was so compassionate! Made me tear up

I like how they all hug each other stop fighting but be happy loving and except each other then world can move on be happy place.

"I didn't transition until I was 32" YOU LOOK 28 WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT HOW OLD ARE YOU REALLY ???

@skylernissen8500

5 жыл бұрын

Omg i had the same thought

@skeletonman1126

5 жыл бұрын

Kougz it’s because trans women are flawless uwu

@deletedbecauseofhate-9971

5 жыл бұрын

She looks 67, I don’t understand why people are saying she looks like an unborn fetus.

@skeletonman1126

5 жыл бұрын

Łunnelfa - Have you ever seen a 67 year old?? The hell are you on

@edenp2465

5 жыл бұрын

@@deletedbecauseofhate-9971 she looks 30

“There are only 2 genders” *3 people sit down The nonbinary person: 👁👄👁

@jogerow1037

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how they felt like they prolly felt a little bit bad

@leolion3323

3 жыл бұрын

I always knew I was a god/ghost or a piece of bread! It all makes sense now!

@deathtrooper2048

3 жыл бұрын

Nonbinary doesn't exist....

@arpitabrahmachari7649

3 жыл бұрын

@Ignatious it's called crying for attention

@noahtheboa7782

3 жыл бұрын

@@deathtrooper2048 it does-_-

I really still love this episode

That was great! Enjoyed watching this. Everyone was great…I especially enjoyed Kytia…I thought she was a class act!

Tell a lie if you want to anger a conservative Tell the truth if you want to anger a liberal

@GrahamChapman

Жыл бұрын

Every claim and accusation said by a conservative is a projection.

@GrahamChapman

Жыл бұрын

@@zachman5150 I can summarize your perspectives and arguments for you: You are opposed to human rights. That's all there is to it, really.

They should start doing this with blindfolds, so they don't feel wrong.

@jennosyde709

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree. I think it would show people's true colors a lot better.

@notokkyle

4 жыл бұрын

they should text that's when people got no filter

@jaeramazandu7179

3 жыл бұрын

Faxz

@bdhdbbddnxbxbx1122

3 жыл бұрын

Kyle the king S nah put em on a PS4 party chat

@whiffingcream7111

3 жыл бұрын

They may be blindfolded but they would still knew they were on camera. I don’t think it will changes,

Damn, I feel like gender and sex both needed to be defined here. Also the lack of a traditional male I think hurt the conversation.

@irrelevance3859

4 жыл бұрын

It's the same thing

@drewsaluk6860

4 жыл бұрын

There isn’t a difference

@Mark-sn6kh

4 жыл бұрын

Splitting the two is just creating some alternate reality. Someone could identify as the 9th planet, a green bean, or a horse by the rational of some of these people. It doesnt make it true regardless.

@drewsaluk6860

4 жыл бұрын

Reinier Roon Let me say in advance, facts don’t care about ur feelings. Now, if u r born with XY chromosomes u r a male. That’s the only way to say it; ur sex/gender is male if ur born with those chromosomes. Same concept if ur born female with XX chromosomes. Gender and sex have always been the same thing and they’ve been defined/ determined by which chromosomes u r born with

@blackcrow3718

4 жыл бұрын

@@drewsaluk6860 i swear when did we get this confused tho wtf forreal. This some joke?

one of my favorites of the channel

I love how they say that there are only 2 genders when their are multiple cultures that have more than 2 genders. Plus, there are intersex people that have the parts and hormones of both male and female sexes.

@zachman5150

11 ай бұрын

No, there are not. Quit conflating gender/sex with personality traits and temperament. They're not synonymous. Intersex is a genetic defect

@Capybarrrraaaa

10 ай бұрын

@@zachman5150 "defect" lmao. As if DNA is a living, thinking creature that made a mistake and couldn't correct it. You really need to grow up and stop seeing the world through cartoon characters.

@leunamreyo3663

10 ай бұрын

​@@Capybarrrraaaa are you seriously making an argument of "nature has no defects"? What are disabled people?

@Capybarrrraaaa

10 ай бұрын

@@leunamreyo3663 Nope.

@leunamreyo3663

10 ай бұрын

@@Capybarrrraaaa "What are disabled people?" "Nope" Seems you answered by question without trying to

Why aren’t there any traditional males.?

@skylightsblade9468

4 жыл бұрын

Cause that would be too much of a controversy here, it's likely they believe that traditionally straight males would be less open to true conversation.

@k.a.m_dh9959

4 жыл бұрын

They do, just a very confused male

@sereenkhan6531

4 жыл бұрын

Raven Baxter b

@rvb_reference

4 жыл бұрын

69, you're welcome

@joelcampos8795

4 жыл бұрын

Because this channel is biased. They probably think men would be too straight forward and hurt someone's feelings.

Being a tomboy and a trans male are two different experiences.

@xboxfullauto1000

5 жыл бұрын

Mercedes Broadway obviously lol

@DivineVibrations9

5 жыл бұрын

Who said it isn’t?

@charlottetheo7857

5 жыл бұрын

M B Also being a tomgirl and a trans female are two different things

@alisham6634

5 жыл бұрын

Sometimes it starts that way.

@williamhenning4320

5 жыл бұрын

How are they different?

10:53 my mom is on the sidelines screaming NOOOOO rn

I find this interesting. I'm a trans woman well on her way through transition but when we got to the DNA part that was so frustrating for me to watch. Because I've been Cetine and trying to defend my identity from nay sayers who all it comes down to is a total misunderstanding of WHY I'm a trans woman

The Christian woman who comforted the trans woman when speaking about her father made me smile. This is how it’s supposed to be and especially for Christians. Regardless of what you think of someone else’s life choices, you are still meant to give love.

@abbyrichardson3497

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@Krystieee

3 жыл бұрын

Most definitely as a Christian we suppose to do everything out of love just like Jesus did himself. Love the person not the sin, css we all sin and fall short of the glory of God we should not judge

@misharobinson1679

3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why Christians think that being trans is against the bible

@joea8850

3 жыл бұрын

@@misharobinson1679 in my christian belief God created us in the gender you were born with and full stop it's what it is. He still loves us and everyone but if you do want to be a christian the bible specifically says things that we were called to live and yeah. But maybe someone can share more scriptures if you'd like? For biblical reasons? 😊 but yeah in the end of the day we use the bible and try to be like jesus in our belief because he is the only way to heaven. 😊

@joea8850

3 жыл бұрын

@@misharobinson1679 but it is in the bible. 👍👍

girl i could not imagine how awful the woman felt when she got told she was "100% male" that would be so triggering for dysphoria edit: hey if yall come across peiple who are blatantly transphobic; saying stuff like hes a man jn regards to the trans woman, its better to just ignore it. if you're gonna debate do it with those who aren't bigots, its not worth it to interact. ive been doing lgbt discourse for three years, and its just my advice.

@will-qb7zn

4 жыл бұрын

@Anastasia Popa oh yeah i completely agree, theres no way to change biology, but the woman couldve definitely worded it better. i was just trying to point out that its a rude thing to say

@-adela-6994

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, transgender people experience so much dysphoria every day and have to still live with the gender they were born with every time they use the toilet, visit the doctor etc. It’s so sad that even in public where there is no need to bring up biology, they have to be told that. I understand that the woman just expressed her opinion and didn’t want to be rude or offensive and I actually kinda agree with what she said there but it really must have hurt

@jeffreychou3918

4 жыл бұрын

Facts don't care about your feelings. If you are male but you don't want to be, the truth is that you are still male.

@potatoskins6001

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreychou3918 They're literally not affecting you at all. Just living their best life. Leave them alone

@isytha5324

4 жыл бұрын

@@potatoskins6001 How is making people call you whatever you want and say it is pronouns not affecting someone. Chances are he has or will come across someone who says they are "Transgender" and if he does not talk to them with their pronouns they will target him publicly and on the internet.

'there are not that many trans ppl in this world' girl what

So glad my parents let my sister be a tomboy instead of pushing this stuff on her

Being a "Tomboy" = Gender expression Being trans / cis = Gender IDENTITY

@welikelethabo

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@fahrenheit2101

3 жыл бұрын

Forgive me for being that guy, but what actually is the difference?

@welikelethabo

3 жыл бұрын

@@fahrenheit2101 Gender expression is separate and independent from gender identity. For an example, I am a cisgendered heterosexual woman but I prefer being a tomboy. Your gender expression doesn’t always reflect your gender identity (who you are internally). But if you want to it reflect your gender identity it can. A gender identity is a personal sense of who u are internally. By the way gender, sexuality, sex and gender identity are all completely different things

@welikelethabo

3 жыл бұрын

@@fahrenheit2101 hope what I said helps💕please feel free to do more research for yourself and btw there’s nothing wrong not knowing something we’re all learning

@nou6206

3 жыл бұрын

trans isn't a third gender though

another thing with gender-neutral bathrooms; society seems to always label the mother as the primary caregiver of the child and forget about the single parent fathers who have to take their little girl into the men's because they don't have a baby station as its apart of the woman's section. I remember this as a child as my parents were split and I spent half of the week with him. We don't live in the 50s! It's 2020. Not all men are the 'breadwinners' and not all women are housewives.

@natalier8403

3 жыл бұрын

I knoww I always think this, that's why they have restrooms now labelled as "family restrooms" for specific situations like these

@jadestone-production08

3 жыл бұрын

Natalie Rodriguez not every place has a family bathroom, I know personally my local mall doesn’t have one.

@natalier8403

3 жыл бұрын

@@jadestone-production08 yeah I wish family bathrooms were a more common thing. I know they don't have them in many places here too. Off the top of my head I can only name target.

@baileymoore7779

3 жыл бұрын

This was a problem I had with my daughter when she was young.

@ronan1686

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i agree, and when a man takes a little girl in the shop or holds her hand they automatically assume hes a pedo instead of assuming hes a dad

I think that this is the most heart warming, and non-toxic episode of Middle Ground I have ever seen- And I am all for it- Like- For once I was actually pretty happy with the side I don't really agree with.

@Ebie_

3 ай бұрын

...Okay...@@PwandaWanda

@PwandaWanda

3 ай бұрын

@@Ebie_ sorry lmao I was trying to see if my comment would send before because it didn’t let me comment on any video

i was SHOOK when cetine mentioned that she started transitioning at 32. i would’ve thought she was in her 20s😮

As a cis gender female, I don’t understand why people are so obsessed with other peoples genders/sexuality’s. Like, can you just let people live?

@lealacey2895

3 жыл бұрын

I do care when it's a man who enters the women's bathroom. And plus, I do have the right to tell people they are wrong.

@TheLawyeress

3 жыл бұрын

coco réglisse AHAHAHAHA what’re you gonna do? Peek under the stall to take a look at someone’s genitalia? Guaranteed you’ve been in a public bathroom with a trans person before and you didn’t know it.

@phoebeuunkefer4489

3 жыл бұрын

coco réglisse do you really think that a trans woman is just gonna peek on every girl and show everyone they she used to be a man. Trans women are just going to mind their business and get out of their as soon as possible because they don’t want people like you to judge her and tell her that she is still a man. Grow up

@Nathantodd2012

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think it is fair to women in sports to have to compete against people who have a biologically based unfair advantage.

@imawesomepersonDERP

3 жыл бұрын

Nathan Hunter there are quite a few articles you can read about that. Athletes who are trans have to go through rigorous testing due to this and even have less testosterone than biological women sometimes. Go research more

“But I didn’t wanna lose my dad” that’s so heartbreaking.

@youtubeaccount0x073

5 жыл бұрын

Shae Mango so he thinks losing his dad is painful... wait for the hereafter. If stays like this may god judge him and throw him in the hell fire. He is a transgressor.

@RexDolo

5 жыл бұрын

SNKRhead Games are you trolling ?

@youtubeaccount0x073

5 жыл бұрын

Chris Rudolph Jr trolling? You think it’s a lie? Read the Quran

@RexDolo

5 жыл бұрын

SNKRhead Games it doesn’t matter if it’s a lie , anything that spreads hate and needless conformity is a detriment to society

@adeleyefatokimi9226

5 жыл бұрын

@@youtubeaccount0x073 The quran? That was the best fictional story I've ever read.

I thought this was supposed to be a vs video. This looked like a bunch of "women" all agreeing on the same thing.

"Before I transitioned when I was still" Me: "Normal"!

@loturzelrestaurant

Жыл бұрын

Cool. So an 'unscietnfici and quite exlusionary Idea'.

@zachman5150

Жыл бұрын

@@loturzelrestaurant No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.