TOYOTA 79 SERIES 8 SPEED AUTO CONVERSION!
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
Mailing List For Updates On The Conversion - bit.ly/3XfCfFI
Massive thanks to boys at www.youtube.com/@TJANDMAC/videos for helping us get this project rolling!
Any questions feel free to send an email to 8speed.au@gmail.com
#shedlife
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After owning a car with a 8hp70 nothing else has ever come close to being so good. I wouldn't pick a 6 speed 200 box for a conversion
To say I’m keen would be the biggest understatement of the year 😂 so excited!
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Man it’s gonna be epic over the manual. Can’t wait to see your thing do a transbrake launch and chirp all 4 tyres. Haha properly naughty times ahead!
@Buckna1
Жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who thinks 4x4 transbrake launch is a bad idea 😅 it's like you lot just wanna make more work for us!
@ricki11cook
Жыл бұрын
Good bye driveshafts & diffs… It was nice knowing you.
@Buckna1
Жыл бұрын
@@ricki11cook haha finally someone else seeing my side 🤣
The world needs more Brocks. Those are some awesome skills to have and not many people really have those skills. I do CAD for a living, deal with 3d scans often, ect. and its hard to find really good people.
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! He’s a special man!
@Buckna1
Жыл бұрын
Love Brock more than anyone but trust me, one is enough 😅
@bradchenoweth7584
Жыл бұрын
@@Buckna1 lol What do you mean one is enough. Imagine if you had 3. Theres no telling what mad science they could cook up. 🤣
@fatsolutions
Жыл бұрын
100%
Already started my 8HP-1FZ-FTE 105 series cruiser conversion 👌 can’t wait
@Buckna1
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah brother 💪 holla at me if you run into any issues. Or even if you don't. Keen to hear!
@Boosted86
Жыл бұрын
@@Buckna1 let me know when theyve got the transfer case adaptor done as that will save me some time !
@The1stBoxGamer
Жыл бұрын
also keen to see how this goes because i will be swapping out my a442f for an hp70, currently pushed on the backburner till after maintenance and haltech ecu install, have got the box just need to figure out what to order from turbo lamik
Sounds awesome, looking forward to see this up and running and final price tag for a full install
That's a nice challenge, guys! Good luck! Have a loving Christmas all of you. Regards Nico.
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! You too!
Merry Christmas lad.. it's been a hard year but you've come out on top.. looking forward to 2023.. take care. 😆👍
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Josh. Crazy year for sure. Cheers to you for hanging around through it all.
That WILL be awesome! When you get it sorted - there will be a few Nissan Patrol owners wanting to swap out the 5 -speed too!
I don’t think you guys will struggle to sell these once they gain some traction as an alternative and on paper better conversion to the 200 series box. I started looking into doing this myself on my own 79 series after i came across this channel a while ago, keen to see how it holds up!
Love to see how this conversion would go in my 2013 76Sr WGN which has been set up as a go-anywhere tourer/ potential hybrid camper tow vehicle. Think you guys will do very well with this option. I really enjoyed the content and information you provided. If you guys are seeking another test vehicle let me know would enjoy the opportunity to work with you guys to make something fantastic for the 70'Sr market. Well Done guys !
Definitely interested in putting one of these kits in my 2023 76 👌
It’s went from a dope cruiser to a prado, jkjk lovey work
Looks amazing we have a 79 this will go nuts if you get the prices correct. It looks awesome and Macca will put it to the test
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
This is what I was thinking would and should be the outcome from the projects. Being able to use it in multi models and makes. Awesome!
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
thanks man!
Would love to see 8HP behind 1HD-FTE. Love to see something that's not the A750F
@willmcc05
Жыл бұрын
Same looking at doing a auto conversion and if I can get this I'll wait
@TAI-lr5vr
Жыл бұрын
@@willmcc05 same man. Prices for A750F swaps are ridiculous now plus the overdrive issues. Would rather have this 8HP than deal with the A750F life
Nice horse head! Merry Christmas lads! Hope to see you’s all in the new year!
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You too! Drive safe over Xmas 🎄
@ScubaSteveArkinstall
Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks! I’ll try! You too!
Very interesting in this kit
If you can keep it to 20k I reckon you will sell a bucket load of them. I'd be keen for one once you get it all worked out. Subscribed 👍👌
I’d Love this conversion boys!
My 76 can’t wait for final product ❤
Awesome project. Dead keen to see a retail version and love the stick shift controls. Ive got a 2022 79 with a few mods and the lack of an auto is its biggest fail
I've got a 98 Nissan Patrol y61 with a OM606 which I am going to put a 8hp70 on in the near future. Just waiting for some parts and I'm ready to go! Going to be a blast. :)
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Very cool!
Keen to see costings - well done guys
Good bless you man
Following, want to see the outcome and possibly fit to my Pre-DPF 79
I would love this kit in my 76
Amazing to see this going into a 4wd, im doing a 8 speed swap into a 105 series landcruiser to swap out the a442f and this will help greatly in what im going to be expecting!
@noclafdrof
Жыл бұрын
Will you be doing it as a kit? Would love to change the A442f in my hdj100
@The1stBoxGamer
Жыл бұрын
@@noclafdrof I cant afford to reproduce it as a kit cos i can barely afford tp do it for my car but once i do it i might post the parts needed online in some forums so people can do it themselves
@nickperusic8802
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see your progress too. Do you have a build that ur sharing anywhere
Very impressive !
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
Been looking at 200 swap for my 79 single cab, but this looks way better
Looking forward to the end product testing..
the information on prise wise is good.
Would love this in my 76
I’d definitely be keen for my 2016 79series dual cab
@jaybel83
Жыл бұрын
How did you guys go with this conversion I’m keen to know
Can’t wait
Damn you beat me to it. I’ve had a Zf8hp70 in my shed for over a year to go behind my FTE
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Have you gotten as far as getting adapter plates made up yet?
@imwalking1690
Жыл бұрын
I’ve started with a wooden jig and the ruler/verniers method. Same deal as you I’m trying to keep the transfer in the factory location in my 105. I’d be keen to buy a transfer case adapter as they are the same pattern as the 79. I got my gearbox from a 2014 Jeep grand Cherokee
@imwalking1690
Жыл бұрын
What torque converter are you planning to use.
@imwalking1690
Жыл бұрын
Billet machining looks cool but I’d make a few for R&D. Then send one set to the foundry and get cast one’s made in bulk. How much are you selling the standalone gearbox ecu for.
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
@@imwalking1690 unfortunately our transfer case adapter wont work with the Jeep boxes. We are using the BMW boxes. Mainly due to supply, but also due to them being in the M50d x5 which with a sligh tune pretty much walk away from most things on the road. Being made for such a powerful OEM diesel application seemed a no brainer. However on the same note with this controller the converter is less cruicial. Main reason people play with conveters and this controller is for transbrake launches, when people are trying to launch above 4000rpm. But we can actually start from a standstill with the converter locked. And even on a gentle start, where you want to slip the converter we lock it up pretty quickly.
Will definitely be popular
I’d be so keen 🤙
I’ve a 2017 79 series dual cab n I’m watching with great interest. I’ve looked Wholesale Automatics conversion, but haven’t m not prepared to pay their ransom. Thx
Would be keen as for this box in the 79.
This contains all the answers to all of my questions, and the answer is YES!
Idk why the whole time I was thinking you where talking about a Celica with an 8hp but your version of it, and it was a truck lol
Cool conversion, but look into heavy duty lockup on the torque converter for towing and engine braking
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
They lock up nearly instantly. In fact this controller hardly uses the converter.
Me and my VDJ would love to have this box. Solves so many issues. Add an incentive for early comers......to take it to the head of the priority list....please
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
We are sticking the original plan and pricing targets. It’s had so much more interest than we anticipated.
Everyone with a 70 series would love this , it just comes down to money. Me personally I can’t justify that , as much as it would be worth it ill just keep chugging through the 5 speed box 😢.
Yep interested as I have been looking at the Wholesale product. Holding off atm now, closer to 20k if proven, makes it very attractive. Andrew.
For 20k I would be in, my manual and clutch is cooked. Get it done boys and I’ll be in touch.
There's a market to sell just the transfer adaptor also, M57+6hp into Landcruisers is gaining some interest
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
That is true! I guess after being blessed with the 8hp we don’t really see the 6hp as a wise move. But you are right there are people doing those conversions still.
40 people and more will need it.
I’m very keen
👍👍 👍👍. Good job...
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
Gold mine!
I’d be keen for an 8 speed auto in my 2015 76 series! It’s a tuned tow rig with more power on the way. This would be awesome!
I've got pre dpf 79 but I'd be keen
Interested in a 76 series as well
“8speeding” the world! Lol
I would be very keen to get this kit, when I buy my dream 79
If it’s closer to the 20 k mark I’d say yes! If your looking for a trail bunny for the 3rd box reach out, I have a new dual cab that’s on the opposite end to Macs (stock on 33’s)
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully if the demand is there and we can out source certain parts to be made in higher quantites it should be possible to get there pricewise. Know we can sell 100 kits and manufacturering those quantities, would make a big difference to the cost.
The process of getting the data for the cad models is fantastic. Brock do you have a channel on KZread?
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
He doesnt, but mainly only due to lack of time to film and edit. I want to try and feature his work more and more on here.
thats absolutely awesome, i've been looking for a 8hp transfer case adapter for a future project :)
The ultimate 79 series conversion would be to put it's non-pickup body on it ;)
Maybe try Matilda Foundry to cast the adaptors once you have the design refined.
You just expanded your market x100. I better make sure I order my gearbox before the price explodes.🤫
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think these boxes are about to become rare really quickly.
Yes yea yea yes yes yes yes 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Hi Guys, Awesome work 👍keep it up for sure..ti think the market is definitly there for it! I have been toying with the idea of doing an auto conversion, either a ZF6 out of a falcon or one of these ZF8s into my 4.8 GU patrol. Would be much better than the re5 that is currently in it. Would this be something you guys would be interested in looking into? Making adapter plates (gearbox to engine and transfer to gearbox) and looms ect with the TurboLamik. Cheers Adrian
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
With the 8 speed absolutely. While the zf6 is pretty good compared to a lot of the other autos, it still lacks a lot compared to a zf8. Once we have the VDJ stuff all finalised we will be working on them for other platforms. Are you local by any chance?
@wildxh90
Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah awesome that is really good to hear 👍 yeah was only thinking of the ZF6 as an option because they are readily available compared to the ZF8 and id imagine probably a little on the cheaper side too. No unfortunatly im down in sunny Victoria haha.
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Hey man, sorry your comment went to spam on youtube for some reason. The 6hp28 are a fairly strong box. Its just lack of performance on them compared to the zf8, that sort of writes them off. This Lamik controller initially supported 6hp, however about 5 years ago they decided to stop supporting them. Reason being its madness to use a 6hp in a swap when the 8hp exists. The difference in price bewteen the two is quite insignificant.
@wildxh90
Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube thats ok man no stress at all 🤘 yeah thats fair enough..I definitly have heard good things about the zf8 👌 yeah right...wonder what the difference would be in price between a conversion with the zf6 compared to zf8? Obviously would have to include a transfer adapter ect. I would be keen on doing some testing if you guys decide to go ahead with a conversion kit for the 4.8 GU patrol 🤘 P.S happy new years mate 👌
Have you thought of water jet cutting the bulk of the material away from those adapters? might be able to use the dump from the big adapter for the smaller adapter or at very least speed up machine time a lot… Anyway I’m keen to do this swap on my cruiser if Toyota ever delivers it.
This would make me buy one just to put this automatic in it!
Great content✌️, however the filming made me feel like i was drunk 😂
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Sorry about that, was the first vid with a new camera.... some changes needed to be made.
Hopefully it'll hold the power... id love to put one in mine... problem is, the 79 is so basic, so ur already spending 25k at least on the car b4 u even get to the engine
Great work, but that camera work was bloody painful.
@cbdobbo236
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I got an instant headache watching this. He needs a gimbal
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Sorry lads. First video with a new camera, which was supposed to be an upgrade. Typically hasnt gone that way.
Jeep gearbox for the win
These will move no worries. If you need a 76 for Beta testing hmu.
Would the torque converter be able to be fully locked? What trans cooler setup are you going to be running?
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we lock the converters very quickly. In fact if you start in first gear, the converter is locked from the get go and we use the clutches to get the vehicle moving. The converter is used for second gear starts (which is most of the time), coming to a stop and transbrake launches. As the converter very rarely slips the majority of heat is radiating from the motor. Not the box itself. In the drift car when we use this with a clutch pedal and continally slip the clutches in the transmission for clutch kits (the worst thing you can do to the box) we rarely see temps of 80deg. We will use a front mounted cooler on mac's car. Howeever we may also look at other typs of coolers down the track. Some 79 series applications, will have issues where they can't get the box hot enough. Which i know sounds insance when you come from the Toyota automatic world which is the opposite.
If I own a 79 I’d be interested
There are some vids of the beast in action on zone off-road South Africa 79 auto, where can I pre order 😊
@Buckna1
Жыл бұрын
Jump on the mailing list brother 💪 we'll get a kit to you as soon as we know its mac proof 😅
You DO know theres a HUGE market for this in Asia and japan???? Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year Guys!!!!!
Ask Brock if fabbing those plates is easier or harder than fixing a broken heart.😊 damn how much is that 65 kilo block of billet aluminum???
@TheMultiDouche
Жыл бұрын
Best part of 1000 aud for 6061
@TheMultiDouche
Жыл бұрын
Best part of 1000 aud for 6061
Is 8 speeds the sweet spot? Ive never tried it. Having lower tatios might save owners diff ratio conversions for big tyres
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
The 8 speeds definitely help keep a motor in it’s efficiency range. With the BMWs a 8 speed car feels faster than a 7 speed dct with the same power. However are the new 10 speeds better again v?
Is the 8hp95 any different in terms of how it bolts up or controlling it with that ecu package? Have done multiple 1000hp dead hooks on 305 MTs in Trackhawk without much dramas would suit the bigger power 79s better maybe?
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
So different in how it bolts up and to my understanding different clutch packs. The 90/95s are great, but rare and quite exxy. We are working on making the 70/75 handle the same power as the 90/95 but hopefully for about half the price.
@bentles
Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube sounds good look forward to following this project may have some potential customers who might be interested for their 79s too
You can put it in my 4.2 if you like it would be pretty awesome in my s4 Patrol
Im definitely interested. I have 2021 troopy with a tune
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
No worries, we’ll if you would like to be on the mailing list for updates the link is in the description.
Looks good, very interested in this when available as a kit. Keep updating on the progress please
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
Can it be programmed to lock out first gear unless manually selected? ie, only need first gear for off-road, not for street. In low-range 4x4 need to be able to select any gear, ie, if want to start in low-range 5th for example? What shifter has to be used? I understand shifting is fully electronic, including Park pawl.
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
This controller has 8 different program modes to control start gear. Shifts points. Converter behaviour etc. it’s very customisable in the back end. But our intention is to have them leave with modes to suit their intended application. It currently works with a basic switch style shifter, or BMW canbus shifter if you want an oem style shifter. We are looking in to adding different shifters. Everyone likes their own touch, so we want more options.
Wow, this is something I thought of many years ago after having a company car with this gearbox then stepping into a 200 series with its 6sp. I asked around a few places to see if it could be done and no one interested - mainly due to the size difference but also the electronics behind it. Best of luck, I'll be following closely.
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah its not something you can do easily thats for sure. We are lucky with our experience and relationship with turbolamik.
Would you mind doing an indepth explanation of your contraption as a separate video, even going so far to show how you made it and a practical example of using it? Thanks
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
It'll all be in the marketing guys
I wonder if it's possible to also have a H pattern shifter but have it select the gears in the 8HP? Then you could actually drive it like a manual
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
A zeroto60 g member is working on that. With the intention of emulation Koenigseggs latest creation. Will require some custom coding on the lamiks side and a controller for the shifter. However its possible.
Most people that own 79s are mortgaged to the eye balls and only a few will actually be able to afford it I’d reckon
yeah, pretty much a trackhawk landcruiser lol. say less, say less lol i want one of those hole plotter setups. thats brilliant. i have a lot of OLD race car parts i could reverse engineer. i know fusion 360 very very well. i have a bmw m13 f1 cylinder head i have been dying to reverse engineer to produce for the m10 blocks. that thing would be great for plotting the cam gears etc. will he build one to sell? ask brock lol
Nice work mate will this kit be available as a diy kit
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely.
Nice now what about the rest of us that have 1HZ's and 1HD-FTE's?
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Do you think there is a market there too?
@phalanx3803
Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube certainty there are a few that do it for 1HD-FTE's with the 200 cruiser 6 speed but they refuse to sell it as a kit gotta be done in there work shop and most of them are up in Queensland. personally i would drop the money to do both my 1HZ land cruisers if yous made a kit when i have the money gotta up grade to parabolic springs first my 75 is rough as hell.
@noclafdrof
Жыл бұрын
I’d be very interested for my Hdj100 also
most of your more customers are in Western Australia BIG WA.
Will this fit a BARRA?
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
With a hammer, hell yes it will
I'll take 3
God dang it lol I put up a post around two years ago on a Facebook group alluding to everyone how good these 8hp are and why haven’t we not seen any conversions in the Diesel performance scenes and everyone laughed at me on the group they said they would rather a TH 4 speed 😂
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Itakes a while to come around.
@mitchellpaterson7062
Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube I just say there’s a South African company that have done it they have a video on KZread
I'll have one for my 80series with the 1hdft thanks
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
I have just added the 1hd to the mailing list options in the link in description, I will update everyone through the mailing list when 1hd conversion starts.
Will that box hold 1000nm of torque constant for a few minutes?
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
So it’s the gear changes that cause clutch slip. In fact it’s trying to upshift while pushing all the power through the box for a flat shift that can lead to slip. (Oem applications do not flat shift, but we like to) Once you are in gear and everything rotating it doesn’t stress it. So 1000nm in gear like on the beach or something, for 10mins it won’t even get hot. But if you change gear every 2-3 seconds it will. The 8hp is a brilliant piece of engineering.
I’ve got a VDJ78R putting out 200kW and 750NM at the wheels, my transmission also has a damaged 5th gear so was looking to do an auto conversion. I’d be interested in being a beta tester if you are still looking, I have my own hoist and am experienced undertaking engine swaps and modifications. Let me know if I can help cheers
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the offer. The 3rd kit is spoken for currently. But if things change I will reply again.
I'd patent the adapter plates parts and onsell to other shops. South African company doing ZF8 conversions to 70 series is a bit ahead of you
Apparently ZF have plans to develop one that can handle 1000 newton meters
@ZeroTo60Tube
Жыл бұрын
They did that back in 2011 😜, well for diesels anyway. These boxes are business.
Would this box and auto setup be able to handle low range 4x4 and more difficult offroading?
@ericjohnson6802
Жыл бұрын
LRovers have them eg my 250kw Discovery which is great offroad plus the box will lock up in all gears. Hopefully the conversion will too. Only issue with the box is a leak affecting @ 250 000 boxes with porous castings between webbings. Love my 8 speed.
@Buckna1
Жыл бұрын
Hey mate! Good question and my belief is that it'll be perfect. Better than manual by far. But again once we sort mac's car out he will be able to put it through paces many of us will never have to go through. We are hoping we build a mac proof conversion so that way the rest of us will have trouble free 8 speed motoring! 😅
@RexOffroad
Жыл бұрын
@@Buckna1 I'm keenly watching, my 76 should be arrive mid next year and its getting an auto box. I'd rather an 8 speed over the 6 speed option. Cheers!