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@emmettvictor

2 жыл бұрын

As someone with a neurodevelopment disability I want to offer up the term “non-disabled” in place of “able bodied”. My disability doesn’t really change the way my physical body moves/functions. I know every disabled person has their own preferences, but wanted to suggest you look into it 😊

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

@@emmettvictor always willing to learn, thank you, I really hope i didn't cause offense

@emmettvictor

2 жыл бұрын

@@BryonyClaire and I figured you would be! It’s not necessarily offensive, just sort of inaccurate? Or maybe not representative? People use “able bodied” all the time it’s just v strange when you’re someone they would view as “able bodied” while simultaneously being disabled

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

@@emmettvictor 100% get what you mean, it is exclusionary, and that's totally not what I want to do

@the.earthlyaquarius

Жыл бұрын

Love these vids but the white guilt is so so strong in you, it's actually cringey.

I love that the bar was set SO low for male hygiene, grooming and dress that we had to create an entirely new category and word for men that actually put some effort into it.

@ThisQuietStorm

Жыл бұрын

Yep! I was a tween at the time and I remember “only being into metro guys” for this reason

@kcar8974

10 ай бұрын

👏👏👏 fr 😂

@Chill-mm4pn

10 ай бұрын

That's so weird I didn't know that was a thing. Culturally you'd get relentlessly bullied as a black kid by other black kids if you didn't take care of your hygiene. Noone held back on telling a kid if he smelled. I thought everyone (who had access to personal items) practiced basic hygiene needs. I do remember the smelly guys whose presence was offensive.

@dustinsmith7259

3 ай бұрын

@@Chill-mm4pn you said it perfectly! I got labeled in college for being “metrosexual” but it’s like, culturally it really depends. In black culture, you get side eyed if you don’t take care of your appearance. So, the idea of “metrosexual” never made sense to me

I wonder how much sooner I would have realized and accepted that I'm a lesbian if the 2000s hadn't instilled so much internalized homophobia and lesbophobia in me

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Its honestly terrible to me how awful that decade was to anyone who wasn't a cishet able bodied white male. I'm really sorry it contributed to you struggling to come to terms with who you are

@Bruixadelacova

Жыл бұрын

I've felt the same! I had such miserable teen years, my internalized lesbophobia was huge and coming from a catholic family/school made it worse.

@RexytheRexy

7 ай бұрын

From one 2000s LGBTQIA kid to another, I'm so sorry you went through that (and I'm glad you've found and accepted your sexuality 💜). So much harm was caused, and it was so unnecessary. I kinda harbor a lifelong grudge against Katy Perry.

As a 28 year old trans woman, the internalised transphobia I picked up from the 2000s is one of the reasons I didn't acknowledge it for so long, like I was genuinely terrified of how people would treat me for years. Even later on in the mid to late 2010s when I started to look into it online the advice was basically move somewhere people don't know you and live in 'stealth' as if you'd always been a ciswoman.

The R slur and saying, "that's so gay," was incredibly common in my HS too. My friend's brother was gay and she would always get upset when we said it but we would all tell her it's "just a word." Ah :/ So cringe and awful to look back on. Thanks for this saga, I enjoyed it so much! Side note, I would totally watch a video of you breaking down all the gross things in Desperate Housewives, even just the first season.

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

I know, the amount that we felt totally fine literally bullying people to use offensive words is so toxic to look back on. I'm really glad you enjoyed this series 😊 Hahaha, I truly could!

Wow what a throwback! I remember watching Tosh.0 and thinking how cool edgy humor was, which snowballed into my nlog phase because I was a girl “who could take a joke”. I shudder at my past self, but I guess that means it’s personal growth. Great video, love the series!

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

I fully get what you mean, I look back on how I was and it's incredibly confronting, everything was for male approval from the humor to the way I looked. It really is personal growth and heck, its better to have realized and changed than to stay like that!

@annajoy3323

9 ай бұрын

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Growing up as an autistic kid in the 2000s was AWFUL. Every day I had to worry about who was going to point out how much of a freak I was. My peers were fond of using my inability to read social cues as a way to humiliate me. Teachers despised my stims and treated me like I was misbehaving. My parents pointed out every little autistic quirk that I had and chastised me when I didn't mask right. The media portrayed us autistic kids as helpless, tantrum-throwing toddlers, or like something to be laughed at and ridiculed. I was less than a human being to society, and it HURT. Now that I'm older and society is finally acknowledging ableism, it's a relief to be able to look back and realize that what I experienced was f*cked up and I didn't deserve that.

@cky2k827

10 ай бұрын

Wow. Reading this just broke my heart. My son is 16 and Autistic. I could never treat him this way and it disgusts me that a lot of your mis treatment came from adults. He goes to a school for Autistic children with teachers who are wonderful. I am sorry you had to grow up like that and hope you are doing well and know it was them and not you.

My favorite thing to come from the 2000s is soft pop/singer-songwriter music. It brings me so much nostalgia and comfort.

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

yes! There was so much good music from that time, Vanessa Carlton's albums (yes, I bought her other work too, not just for A thousand Miles) really embodies this to me

@amethystdream8251

Жыл бұрын

That what was I was mostly engaging with at the time. Everything else I felt I had to keep up with or be exposed to just to be around people lol

@twiggledowntown3564

Ай бұрын

Michelle Branch, Delta Goodrem, Vanessa Carlton, Lucie Silvas, and etc.

In Greece, i kid you not, we had a teenage drama show that was one of the most popular shows in my teen years in the 2000s. The plot was a female student falling in love with her male teacher. That was it. Basically after years and years of them hiding their "relationship" they ended up marrying each other and lived happily ever after. It feels so gross to me how we were all fangirling over the 40 year old teacher.

u mentioned that your platform is "actually quite small" and I looked and was shocked at the subscriber number. i've been watching you for a while now and just always assumed you had in the ballpark of 500k subs. your content's great and I feel like you'll be there in no time.

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support!

@sacrilegioussasquatch

Жыл бұрын

WAIT WHAT SHE DESERVES LIKE 50 TIMES THIS

Wow... That was a rough ride. The edgy humour was rampant at that time and we now have the pandemic of "cringe complitation" videos that mostly make fun of bigger people and queer teenagers. Part of me sees the the understanding has grown and we are mire eager to point out shitty behaviour, part of me realizes that there is still a lot to be desired. Amazing job at the 3 part series. The amount of work you have put into this is unbelieveble. Great indie rock bands discovered with my friends through myspace, Destiny's Child, new countries entering EU: that's the stuff I loved about 2000. Take your break and charge batteries. Amazing job once again!

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely recommend watching something light hearted after this! Thanks, I'm so glad this series was appreciated 😊 I have a lot of issues with people not only doing those cringe compilation videos but also "commentary" ones which as you rightly say, target fat or marginalized people or teenagers. Whilst we've come a way in some respects, I still think if Rebecca Black came out with Friday today, she'd be roasted to hell for it in the same way, even though we've retrospectively recognized that was the bullying of a child, I still think it would happen

There has been so many things you have brought up from this decade thats just made me go "eeek, yep, that horridness is spot on", but also "yay, i survived through that". I happily think back to sleepovers i had during this time before technology was constantly in our pockets. I still have the handwritten notes from highschool we would sneak and throw to each other.

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing beats those little secret handwritten notes that were not so subtly thrown between desks, eh?

@meghansullivan6812

2 жыл бұрын

Yessss my best friend and i would write notes to each other in middle school :’))) in sure they are around at my parents’ house somewhere! We had slide phones at the time but we had to put em in a phone box at the beginning of the day and i honestly think we schools should still be doing that!!

Oooof, I remember being forced to watch those horrible parody movies in my friend group, that mostly made me feel uncomfortable and were desperately unfunny. Damn, people really hated on Britney and Paris! What an awesome series and I feel like everyone who grew up in this era needs to watch this! As for fave 2000s thing.. I did love the movie V for Vendetta. And a huge nostalgia for indie rock like Death Cab for Cutie, Arcade Fire, Sufjan Stevens, The Shins, etc :)

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

They really weren't funny at all, eh? It was really cool to hate on things others enjoyed, makes zero sense. And yes, people really destroyed Britney and Paris, I'd add Lindsay and Jessica Simpson to that list too, actually so many other women, Whitney Houston in particular. I haven't seen V for Vendetta in years! I'll have to check it out again, great band choices too

I got engaged in the late 2000's... my spouse is definitely my favorite thing from that time period. 😄 This was a great series! Thank you for all your hard work.

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

I think you won the decade there! Thank you, so glad you enjoyed it 😊

@juneshay608

2 жыл бұрын

Awwww that’s really sweet. Congrats on the happy marriage. I hope you both are doing great. 💛

Watching this series has been eye-opening because I was a child of the 2000s, but I was also a weird kid who didn't really engage with pop culture beyond the Disney Channel. Only now do I have a better understanding of why the kids I went to school with behaved in certain ways. For instance, even though I'm straight, I was still made the butt of terrible gay jokes by the other boys because I wasn't like them. As I watch clip after clip in which gayness or any other "unmanly" quality is reduced to a hack joke, I'm thinking "Oh, NOW I get it."

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

I'm really sorry that you went though that, it's so bizarre to me how perception of someone's sexuality was the "height of insults" back then (sadly still rings true in some circles today, too)

Love the montages! I have so much nostalgia for the movies and music of this decade, but looking back, so much of the content was mean-spirited. Like you said, it was “cool to be cruel.” I’ve enjoyed this series so much and will be rewatching it!

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Yeah I totally get what you mean, I like lots of things from then too but, wow, the issues though!

I’m only at the beginning of the vid but damn the Elvis thing - in the 70s there was this French singer who was open about getting with teenagers, and at some point he was in a relationship with a 13 yo child who got pregnant. Like, how did people let that happen… And the fact that he’s still celebrated and people gloss over that is…. interesting 🥴

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

It's so gross right! I have a whole video i want to make unpacking groupies and the music scene back then, I have a lot to say (but I'll probs only be able to get to it in April at this rate)

@keeva2176

2 жыл бұрын

@@BryonyClaire oh thats a good idea! take your time, i know your videos take a lot of research to do ☺

I used to be friends with a "retired", grown-up emo guy. At parties and events, he would don the eyeliner, paint his nails, and dress in all black as his costume. I think it was his way of reminiscing to his high school years. It was heartwarming to see everyone cheer him on and tell him he looked cool. He would smile and kinda "aw shucks" in response. Back in the day, he probably got teased for the makeup and nail polish.

Respect to the person who made that video to leave Britney alone. They were right and now Britney can finally enjoy her freedom and try and heal herself. She's lost so much though, it's just heartbreaking.

Excellent 3-part series. Thank you for the nostalgia hits! And stark reminders of how much we have to release from having lived through this era. I was a teen during this era, too, and that stuff sank in deep. Change is gradual, we have to be patient. We’ve made progress since then but yeah, still a lot to do. And we’re getting worse at being able to have a conversation because of things like our reliance on social media. 😑 where black & white thinking still reigns.

Thank you so much for this series. It gave me such a new perspective of the inner workings of my mind and why the deprogramming is so deep to work through for me to this day. Some of the best content on KZread I've seen recently.

One thing I did like about that time (late 90s and the 2000s really) was that there were a lot of underground cultures that you could escape to if you didn't feel like you fit in. I don't know if that's a trend in other countries too, or if it's just Norway, but at least here now there is a lot less diversity than 20 years ago. There's a big difference just in Germany, where we see a lot more different people. I'm not talking race or religion here, that way we're absolutely diverse, but that the need to do and think and like and dress just like everyone else seems to have become stronger. I don't quite know what to make of it, but one such underground community was what helped me survive those years. It also gave me a safe base, so to say, from which to critique things like the misogyny and slutshaming of the time, because I wasn't scared of being different or disliked. It seems to me that it was easier to be like 'f you, I don't care what you think I should be like" back then. But it might just be that I've got older, who knows, haha. But I have a teenager and a tween now, so I do think I notice some things. I'd like to hear what others think though!

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

I can only really speak to here in Aotearoa, but there are lots of little communities you can be a part of, and multiple ones at the same time. BUT, I also don't really go out much (obviously, if I'm not working at my full time job I'm doing this) but my friends belong to lots of unique groupings and because I'm part of the slow fashion crowd, I see people doing and looking however they want. However in the office, I do stick out quite a bit, so I guess its a mixed bag. I guess back then, the groupings were a lot more rigid, you were a goth, or an emo, or a prep etc whereas its more fluid today

Homophobia was rampant in the 2000's. It was a scary time to be even perceived as being gay, as a man in terms of a real threat of violence, and delegitimised for women, but "cool" to be fetishised. Mainstream rap music and hip hop was also very big at the time and very homophobic. I think that gatekeeping and keeping in lanes was the thing at the time, so that's why there was little diversity in emo because it was seen as quote "gay" to talk about feelings for a man. Not to say there weren't exceptions, but certainly not mainstream ones. Also I remember there was a certain disdain for rap not really being music from the more white guitar band side of things. Very sad and divisive times looking back in hindsight. Good analysis.

First of all, thank you so much for the ableism words part. I am French and I didn't know that lame for example was bad. I thought it was an equivalent to "not cool". I am glad I stop using the R word (we have an equivalent in French... great) and now correct people when they use it. I love the "ignorant" alternative, it emphasizes the chosen behaviour and not the personality trait or disability. When you talked about some of those 2000's movies, I was like "so we didn't evolve a one bit on that...". French comedy LOVES to make fun of minorities especially BIPOC and LGBTQ+. It's written for old people and kids, and most of the time it sucks... But also, watching Paris getting bullied by that woman in front of so many people, I cannot imagine how she must have felt. It was enraging to see that. And the age gap part... It's still a thing today especially for young boys. I always ask myself if it's because they are men and people will always see them in control of the relationship not matter the context while also thinking that men are always consenting (I deeply hate this idea). When I watched your trilogy, I kind of understood why I used hate myself and why I still have EDs. But I am also so happy to see that many of us have grown from this era. I am proud to have gown up in that era and be the person that I am today. To have unlearned all that hatred... Finally, wow your makeup and your flowers. Such a good combo ! You're an artist. Sorry for the messy comment! Don't mind my English haha

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

For the longest time I had no idea lame was a bad word to use, too, it was so common! And you wouldn't think a Disney movie would use offensive words. Its so disappointing to hear about the French movies still targeting minorities like that too, I don't care if it's "boomer humor" or whatever they want to hide behind, they adapted to technology like their phones, they can adapt attitudes, too. Paris got soooo much hate, looking back through things it really was her, Britney, Lindsay and Jessica Simpson who were kind of like punching bags for people. Nobody felt bad laughing at them. I'm sorry you still struggle with an ED too, it's hard for those long ingrained thoughts to go, good on you for all the efforts you've made, it's really not easy at all especially when so much of the messaging remains the same So glad you enjoyed this series 😊

This is fantastic. Loved this whole series, and how informative and well-researched it is. Thanks for the reminder to keep a critical eye open; I remember all the clips so clearly and back then thought it felt weird but it was just the done thing. Also, the makeup and styling for each section is *chef's kiss*

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, yeah I think even if we felt strange about it, it was so "normalized" that we felt like the odd ones out. Like I really remember seeing Britney shaving her head, and I felt such a wave of sadness and hopelessness when I saw that at home, but everyone was making jokes about "leave Britney alone!" that I realized I must be in the minority, and for a very uncool kid in a new country, the safer bet was to not talk about it

I feel like I need to sanitise my eyes after watching all of the gross clips! *Scream* Thanks for making these videos, it definitely will help people to unlearn the toxic messaging we were totally brainwashed into believing. It also gives a lot of explanation as to why people still hold mentalities leftover from this era today. It's so good to have an awareness of this so we don't keep making the same mistakes!

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

I fully get what you mean! As soon as I finished this project I needed a palette cleanser of wholesome youtube creators. There was about 45 mins of extra clips I'd sourced that I couldn't include but gag-worthy is the best way to describe them 🤢

@isabellerickards5919

2 жыл бұрын

@@BryonyClaire Aww yes! I hope you were revived by wholesome content 💗

You put so much work into your videos! I appreciate all the hours you did behind the scenes!

This series has been amazing! Genuinely enjoyed it so much in spite of the deluge of toxicity and very questionable style choices *I'm looking at you, low rise jeans*. I'd absolutely be up for a video of your favourite 2000s things. I was born in 2001 so I didn't see them in that decade, but my favourite thing to come out of the 2000s (apart from myself) was definitely the Lord of the Rings movies! My sister handed me the box set when I was 10 and I've been completely enamoured with those films ever since.

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Low rise jeans are coming back in a trend to haunt us, I swear!

Bryony - this series has been your best work so far! I can only imagine how much time and energy went into creating it. I watched all three parts over the past couple of days and enjoyed every moment of it! Please keep up the good work. 😊

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah it kinda took over my life for a good 2 months, really glad you enjoyed the series :)

The 2000's were awful! Personally I had a lot of great things going in (got married, had my 2 kids), but overall they were a nightmare. Both of my kids are Autistic. We haven't watched Sia's movie, but we've seen clips of it. Yikes! I often think of the 2000's as the decade (plus) when Feminism disappeared. And all of the gay/transphobia was terrifying. 😞 Finally, can we talk about "Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World"? There's a lot to unpack there, but particularly the fact that Scott "defeats" Ramona's ex-boyfriends with violence, but "defeats" the ex-girlfriend by giving her an orgasm?!?!? (P.S, my friend was one if the bikini-clad women in "Rush Hour 2" and was absolutely humiliated.

@richardfloridaman

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I am gay and I had to dropout of high school in 2005 due to the abuse I endured from classmates and teachers... I ended up homeless. I met my biological father in 2007, wow that decade was a nightmare. The music was good but 2001-2010 was absolute H E L L.

@alyzu4755

Жыл бұрын

@@richardfloridaman I'm so, so sorry! ❤️

Just a heads up to anyone who doesn't know, the word "Gyp$y" is a slur towards the Romani people. And while some Romani individuals may not mind the term, as a whole, from what I have heard from those in that community, it has hurt them and is harmful and should not be used. Please do not say it anymore. If you must address it, please try to say things like "The G-word", "The G slur" or "The Romani G slur" instead. If it is used to describe an item, please try to use other terms such as "Romani clothing" or "Nomadic wear" if it is less specific. (Terms like Bohemian and Boho have been used by companies that appropriate Romani fashion as well, btw.) I didn't learn the historical and harmful significance of the G word until semi-recently and I have erased it from my vocabulary usage, and I highly recommend doing the same. It's a small thing but it can be a good step forward in ending the oppression of the Romani people. Other ways of support are buying from Romani-owned fashion companies and listening to the community. Thank you for reading this.

@t0rakka

11 ай бұрын

This is so important, it always surprises me when leftists aren't aware of this

The teacher-student plots in shows noooo 😭. Makes me remember how Degrassi did that several times and it took them to the third or fourth time to show it as a creepy grooming thing (aka the correct portrayal). My internal headcanon for Paige is that the Matt relationship was maladaptively appealing to her due to her preexisting sexual trauma because god otherwise I love Paige. EDIT: Also hi lmao yes I’m watching my way through the channel. Oh also gaydar is kinda real but only gay/bi people have it (source: my lesbian self and myriad of gay/bi friends) It’s not perfect and mostly a cultural code thing.

it’s crazy how much work and thought you put into these videos!!! thank u for the content 😭

Another wonderful analysis of culture and formative years for so many. I would love to have a series like this but for every time. Starting in the 1900s to the 2000s and beyond

I just started watching your channel and I'm obsessed! I never leave youtube comments but you put so much effort into your content and it really shows! You're a star and I can't wait to keep watching and following your channel!

I was an emo kid with excellent gaydar… jokes on me because I’m actually just a lesbian with depression thanks to the climate I was raised in

Thank you for the series Bryony, this has been the best part of my birthday 🥳 🎉🎂. Please take your time in uploading videos don’t burn yourself out to please your subscribers.

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Happy birthday! Thanks so much for watching :)

IAnother really great video! I've been looking forward to getting round to watching it since it dropped and it's been worth the wait. I hope you had a lovely amerversary

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! thank you!

That is my fear with the 00s getting popular again. I remember all of this stuff as a teenager, and I hope my kids don’t pick up on the bad things we had to unlearn.

Omg I just remembered that I practiced getting out of cars without showing my undies in short dresses because of how prevalent those paparazzi sl*t shaming photos were and people at my school would watch and make fun of girls who didn't awkwardly plop out of the door without exposing themselves. Thankfully camera phones didn't really exist while I was at school...JUST squeaked through before they came out

This is single-handedly one of the best series I’ve ever watched in my life (and the only time I have ever left an actual comment on my 10+ years of watching KZread). Across KZread and beyond (mainstream media etc.) I really have rarely seen such emotive / analytical retrospective framing. I grew up in the 2000s in East Africa, and you can only how much more toxic our internalising of this content and material was. I’m now just realising why I’m working through such hard topics / mindset shifts and I’m like yeah… deffo a result of Y2K media. That said, I do miss how less digitally anxious we were back then. The pressure to constantly be available / reachable is such a thing now. Not just socially but professionally (emails, Slack etc.). Nah your channel, commentary and perspective is self-aware, well-researched, objective, but also insightful. Loooooooooovveee all your doing + keep it up. All the best 🌸

It means a great deal to see discussion of ableism. I'm both disabled by a physical condition and a mental illness, and have been impacted by ableism in my life to the point of hiding from the world. The way I was treated when I had a service dog was horrible, and impeded my ability to move through the world almost as much as my disability. I no longer need a service dog or a cane to walk, so I must have been "faking." "Not looking disabled" is considered a compliment. (if we're talking about ableist brutality in the early 2000s: the way addicts were torn apart and allegations of addiction were thrown at Britney to create total testimonial injustice. Nobody questioned Jamie Spears' competence as her conservator, despite him being an alcoholic, but look at the way she was treated for allegedly having the same condition) The worst one for me, however, is the misuse of the words "psycho" and "psychotic"; a serious, ongoing issue that genuinely harms people. I'm schizoaffective and currently experiencing a psychotic episode. People know virtually nothing about what psychosis actuallys look like, from the symptoms to the high level of variability from patient to patient. Far from the violent, screeching, aggressive stereotype, my behavior includes: sleeping, dozing, playing videogames, playing card games with my best friend and spouse, watching videos, watching movies, spacing out and enjoying my hobbies to the best of my ability, and snuggling. It can be a miserable experience, in so many ways. I describe it as loss of self, through loss of reality: my sensory reality, emotional reality, and the way my mind works (from the way my thoughts are generated to the the things I think to my cognition and ability to speak), but I'm still me. And, more importantly, I'm still a person. I'm sorry if this comment is too long. Every time I experience an episode, I think about the stereotypes, the way people look at me and treat me when they find out that a word beginning with "schizo" is part of my diagnosis, the ways my humanity is erased because I'm not the type of neurodivergent that people try to understand and have empathy for, and it's painful. I try to inform and educate where I can, despite the anxiety that can come with doing so. I'm not ashamed of my psychosis in any way, I'm not ashamed of my bipolar pathology, and I'm not ashamed of my other schizophrenic traits. I'm sad that I live in a society that has no interest in understanding or humanizing millions of human beings who are more than capable of love, compassion, empathy, and contributing in real and meaningful ways (and who will never physically harm another human being). Tl;dr Thank you for calling out "psycho" as ableist, and for addressing ableism in the first place. It means a lot to be seen. 💜 I don't understand why your channel doesn't have ten times the follower count you currently have. 48k for this level of quality and compassion is far too few.

« As you can see I’m a cit het woman » well…huh…No? Edit now that I finished my snack: You can’t judge that on appearance and saying we can is sort of echoing the gay dar or the show were men tried to figure out which ones were trans women. Just like they can’t tell based on stereotypes we can’t tell for you. Besides that I loved the series and subscribed. Keep up the good work !

I'm sorry but lame and dumb have been used ubiquitously for decades as terms not associated with being disabled. Almost nobody thinks of those definitions first unlike for example (and for better or worse) mute and crippled.

Im happy to see a Pt3. Your videos are spot on.

The teacher-student "romance" trope was disturbing AF. I don't even understand how could that shit fly...

Probably why i still have trauma from high school, i had autism and went to high school from 2006 - 2010. i remember the 2000's and to a lesser extent the 90's as very toxic. i have little nosalisa for that era and dread its comeback happening right now.

So i'm not gonna lie, I didn't agree with a lot of what you said here BUT I just leave it to difference of opinions however what I will shed light on is Emo and Goth and the supposed "gatekeeping" which I'm sorry but there's a bit to go over there and the magic word for these two music-based subcultures is "misappropriation" and boy howdy did both these scenes get hit the worse with that in the 2000s that went on to misguide a lot of those who were listening to this stuff back in this time (myself included until I learned). I will try to keep it brief though (and for the record, I have nothing to say about the toxic masculinity, I think your criticism there was totally understandable). Anyway. Goth: Long story short, the music that was being considered "goth" in the 2000s with bands like Rammstein, Evanescence, Korn, Marilyn Manson, Cradle of Filth, HIM, Nine Inch Nails, My Chemical Romance, AFI, and the whole Nu-Metal genre as a whole were not goth at all. Goth is a specific genre that has it's own style/sound definition that make it what it is. Bands like Sisters of Mercy, The Mission, and London After Midnight (or for 2000s examples Malaise, Solemn Novena, and The Eden House). Not much else to say except just misappropriation of goth music that ended up annoying goths within the goth scene. Emo is probably the easiest to tackle and the main thing that had to do with the "gatekeeping" was the simple fact that the majority of bands being labeled "emo" actually weren't. "Emo" short-hand for "emotive hardcore" is a specific sound defined genre and many of these bands being thought of as such just weren't it. This wasn't because these bands weren't "hardcore" enough ,it was just the simple fact that most of these bands were simply not playing the genre that is emotive hardcore aka emo and that all of these bands were just pop punk being labeled as "emo" by mainstream media in order to capitalize on a (fake) new craze. There's a reason why My Chemical Romance would say that they weren't emo and it wasn't because they were trying to pretentious, they were just being honest about the kind of music they make lol. Same with Panic! At the Disco. Like the only band that was actually emo that got mainstream attention at the time was Taking Back Sunday pre-2006 "Louder Now" (they wet Pop Punk since then). Emo/Emotive Hardcore has been around since the mid-late 1980s and it's not surprising that actual emotive hardcore fans got annoyed at the misappropriation of their subculture in the 2000s. They were just upset with seeing their music scene be essentially bastardized by the clueless media and the young impressionable fans that swallowed it up and believed it. And again, I say this as someone who got caught up in it as well, I was a teen during the 2000s and I too thought bands like MCR, P!ATD, Paramore, AFI, and Good Charlotte were emo bands until I learned what actual emo music was with bands like American Football, Sunny Day Real Estate, Rites of Spring, and The Get Up Kids to name a few.And sure it did send me for a loop but after seeing how goth was misappropriated, it made me understand the fans of emo had with the 2000s misconception(s). And to touch on the "racist" thing, I'm sorry but I don't agree with this. The main reason why there weren't many of these rock/alternative bands that had black musicians in them was simply because of lack of interest from a sizeable amount of black people in general at the time. In high school I remember I was one of the only black kids who actively enjoyed alternative/rock music while my fellow peers, they all seemed to vastly prefer Rap, Hip-Hop, and Top 40 Pop/Club type music.I recall only seeing one other black kid who liked rock music but aside from that, the interest just wasn't there among most. So I find it very unfair to cast blame on these rock music-based scenes as being "racist" when it wasn't their fault that there was a lack of diversity when the blunt truth is that just not many black people were into this kind of music, let alone making it en masse.

So I’ve never really understood where the line is for cultural appropriation. I understand why it is wrong for someone to wear, for example, clothing from another religion without recognizing it’s significance. But I feel like at a certain point, we are almost segregating things using cultural appropriation. “You aren’t allowed to do that because you don’t look right/you don’t come from the right place,” kinda thing. Like can’t it become kinda anti-diversity? If someone could help me out and explain that a little bit, I’d appreciate it!

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

There are sources in the description to check out. Also I recommend googling this and actually listening to voices of minorities, I've even included a video link in the description too from Shanspeare, a fantastic black creator.

@annaiuga

Жыл бұрын

I see it the same. Culture has always develope in the contact of diversity. Just think about how religions evolved. I am from Romania and we are proud when other people wears our costumes. Actualy, is the first think we do: we make our guests try our traditional clothes and stuff. I think that the only thing one should not do is to dress in others traditional clothes as carnival costumes. But that is my opinion...

Just found this series. Incredible stuff! I wanna tackle some of these topics as well!

Beautiful makeup looks through out the video. Omgggggg, 2000s was some years. I’m 35 now, having to grow up as a white Mexican in US, was not that bad for me, but I wanted to be like those white skinny girls and hiding my mental health hurt my depression and anxiety even more. But here where I grew up there’s A Lot Mexicans, so you’re either to white to be Mexican or to Mexican to be white. I still get bullied for my accent, more by Mexicans, so with my two kids I try to teach them how to defend themselves. That’s a whole conversation. 😒😒

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like that was really challenging! And I'm sorry you still have to deal with people bullying you today, that's awful

Thank you for talking this way about emo. I’m an elder emo and I am more than aware of the negative stuff in the subculture, but there’s also so much positive.

Its uncanny to see how the slurs were the same in French regarding the same people... seems like it was an international trend to be like that. Again, great video with an enormous amount of great work behind it !

Love this- you made my office day better with some awesome points ❤❤❤

I almost choked when I heard Rino Nakazone, she' s a legendary kpop choregraph now. Happy for her she got to make her own name. I also do hope in ten years we will look back at now and thinking how terrible we still were. I want to keep hope society can continue to improve. Even if I was a teenager/young adult in the 2000s, I also engaged in that kind of behavior, I remember not wanting to say I was a feminist because I was for equality * massive eye roll*

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy for her too, Gwen called her "Music". Ugh I was the same! Even into the 2010's that mentality stuck with me for so long, it sadly was only when I was a victim of multiple issues that I realised how wrong I really was

Another great video. Loved the series 🧡

what a time to have your formative years... woof. i mean i love the music from this time - even if it all hasn't aged super well - but there's so much we can LEAVE IN THE PAST from the 2000s.

I have my issues with the whole „cultural appropriation“ debate, because there is no clothing which does not have a cultural history. That‘s just due to the fact that we are born naked and due to culture, started wearing clothing. I do understand why people would get the ick from these music videos and I feel the same way. However the problem is not them wearing these clothes, the problem is other people being discriminated for it. The problem is racism. I feel like the cultural appropriation debate actually takes the focus away from the actual problem, in order to start policing individuals style choices (cause after these stars get criticised people feel comfortable attacking random folks on the street for wearing something they they look like they should’t). Needless to say with a lot of these „cultural“ styles, the origins are not so clearly known and it depends largely on where you are from, how you interpret them. Some styles also become part of a different culture over time so the meanings are layered. And lastly I wanna say that the only culture I think I might belong to is the Rock and Metal music scene, and seeing people wear stolen Merch from H&M and thinking the bandname is a brand, feels like cultural appropriation to me. But what are you gonna do? People can wear whatever they want and whether I like it or not doesn‘t matter one bit.

@necroflowers2244

Жыл бұрын

You really just compared wearing a band t shirt to white women wearing culturally significant pieces of clothing such as headdresses? Of course you don't see the big deal, based off your defensive, and very dismissive argument for cultural appropriation, I'm gonna assume you're a white person. And although you may not understand, but telling people of color that it's not that big of a deal, and glossing over the whitewashing of culturally significant traditions is very disrespectful. Also the fact that white americans literally tore children of color away from their parents and force them into assimilation schools,stripped away their ethic clothing, gave them white christian names. Only for decades later to wear those very garments deemed "unamerican, uncivilized " as a fashion statement is beyond disgusting. So go ahead and compare centuries of cultural genocide to someone wearing a fucking band t shirt. I'm a metalhead, but I'm also mexican/indigenous and seeing you pretend the two are the exact same thing is sickening.

@4dvoc4tethe4byss6

Жыл бұрын

@@necroflowers2244 wow so first you assumed I am "white" whatever that means, which is kinda racist since you don´t know the first thing about me. Then you proceed to missunderstand what I wrote an call it sickening.I said: "However the problem is not them wearing these clothes, the problem is other people being discriminated for it. The problem is racism." I stand by that. I never said it´s not problematic for stars to wear culture like a costume, but that´s just one more vulger ulcer of capitalism that I would never defend. I just find it problematic how the USA once again take an American phenomenon and act like it can be applied everywhere, which it can´t, and based on that I find it problematic to start policing individual people and attacking them on the streets for assuming their cultural heritage and therefore judging if they are allowed to wear certain things or not. That is something I find sickening. It´s a faschists wet dream come true if everyone would stick strictly to "their own culture". Not a world I want to live in though.

My fiancee and I the other day were talking about how hip hop and rap get a bad name for the very very blatant misogyny in it. But nobody ever calls out the also very blatant misogyny in rock music of all types. Especially in the 90s, early 2000s. You had like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Puddle of Mud, which basically got really big being nothing but misogynistic. If it's a genre aimed at teenagers misogyny is at the forefront of it. No wonder I'm in my late 30s still trying to shed the misogyny internalized

I know it's a really minor thing but the Emperor's New Groove clip that was used in the homophobia section is in my opinion incorrect. Kuzco was dressed as a woman and the waitress said what she said because the character is a literal llama. If anything it is maybe nasty of the waitress to say given that she thinks they're both people and thus she is commenting on the supposed 'persons' looks but I don't believe it was meant to be homophobia just that this is a literal llama in lipstick.

By the way, in that scene from Charlie’s Angels at 40:12, the “music” in the background is actually the Islamic call to prayer played over music, which is just unbelievably disrespectful…

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

No way! Ugh that makes me hate this even more

32:15 I am so pissed at this... It's not about bEiNg WhItE as much as possible... it's about looking dead. I mean in black metal, metalheads are calling it a corpse paint for a reason. 😅

LIVING for the emo part

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Editing that part was like having a flashback party the whole time, due to copyright I had to cut out a bunch of songs sadly but I might try and sneak a few into a favs of the 00's video

@katmariemp3

2 жыл бұрын

@@BryonyClaire yes pleaseee omg obvi work with copyright but I'd love to see/hear it!

the ableism really made me heart race i’ve only been active in anti ableism since like 2019 even though i’m disabled because it was so ingrained into normality for me

There was a term 'Everything Sucks-ism' coined back in 2005 that I wish had caught on more, given how much the phrase captures how miserable the 'cool to be cruel' 00s zeitgeist was (coincidentally, the term 'Manic Pixie Dream Girl' was coined in the exact same series of AV Club reviews) Also, never realised just how many Emo bands wore ties till now

@GeteMachine

Жыл бұрын

I hated that attitude in so many types of reviews and music elitism back then from it too that essentially was just pretentious 'Everything Sucks-ism' people did to feel cool or smarter than the rest of society or how they made being insincerly cynical a 'personality' they thought made them cool.

Alright it’s official. I seen pretty much your whole series on this and it’s safe to say I am actually now glad I was born in 2000 and was a teenager in the 2010s which was a bit better than the 00s. I just didn’t see it till now. Well guess I’ll start having my stories take place in the 2010s to modern day instead of the 00s

Fatphobia, misogyny, and ageism are hot items that will be HEAVILY frowned upon in the future about our current culture now. People who hate Hailey Bieber for no reason, attribute the personal incompetence of individuals in arenas like politics to age, and think countless media instances of extreme fatphobia are hilarious are going to be like er ah omg I didn’t know that was wrong! Because people don’t want to think for themselves. They just want acceptance-even if it means atrocious things for others.

Love that you gave a shout out to Intelexual Media. She's so well researched and fun 💘💘💘

My favorite thing to come out of the 2000s was actually the Star Wars prequels and the friends I got to make through the fandom. :)

Eve’s verse on “Rich Girl” was the only good part of that song.

8:26 As someone with OCD, I'm not really offended by people saying they're obsessed with something. I didn't even make that connection until you mentioned it, to be honest. Obviously I don't speak for everyone with OCD, but personally I'm totally fine with the word and even use it myself sometimes Also as a side note, this series was awesome and really interesting to watch :D

I started highschool (Years 10-13 in the USA) in 2000. This decade saw me through my entire adolesence from 14 to 24. It was a bad decade to be female. The NLOG persona was genuinely the only way we were "allowed" to have real interests and be taken seriously about them. Trendy performative bisexuality made dating a nightmare: if you're straight men are pissy you won't just "try it" with another girl for their entertainment, and if you're actually bi or even lesbian there's the minefield of "are you actually interested or am i just an experiment" to navigate. The internet boom brought exciting new ways for our bodies to be exploited. Mainstream fashion made ED rates grow in a way that put 90's Heroin Chic to shame. Media was trash in its depictions of us and storytelling - we enjoyed some of it at the time but what other options were there? And at the end of the decade it was genuinely harder for women to get "real" jobs during the economic bust and following recovery as there was a hiring preference for men unless a more qualified woman was willing to be paid substantially less. It was an incredibly depressing time overall for many of us, and much as I have a soft spot for the music every song clip took me right back to that feeling of empty hopelessness. My favorite thing to come out of that decade is my kid. His birth gave me a reason to get through the day instead of joining the military or finding some other way to throw my life away. Fantastic series, thank you for putting in the work on it.

@richardfloridaman

Жыл бұрын

I was supposed to be class of 2006 but had to drop out of high school in 2005 because I was constantly terrorized by both boys & girls and teachers for being gay. Life was rough on girls, but nowhere near as bad as it was for us gays & lesbians. And I never saw women suffering through employment issues but I couldn't even get a job at McDonald's and women, especially of European descent were my biggest discriminators out of every group. They were the most vocalling homophobic too.

@lavendarcrash2941

Жыл бұрын

@@richardfloridaman it's not the Oppression Olympics, bud. I'm sorry you felt pushed enough to leave school but just because I'm straight passing now doesn't guarantee I had it any easier than you back then.

@richardfloridaman

Жыл бұрын

@@lavendarcrash2941 no you didn’t have it bad. You call it the oppression Olympics when it doesn’t pertain to your attention seeking because you were never genuinely oppressed. You were the oppressor. All straight women were and it’s factual and evident in all of society. You’re trying to pick up our struggles. You have never faced discrimination endured a struggle. I didn’t feel I had to dropout. I was forced into dropping out by homophobes like you.

There was also that "everyone's a little bit racist" attitude, that bugged me. Where it was just often white celebrities who kind of gloated about their ignorance to certain groups of people (often Asians, Indians and Latin people) and people often tried to make it seem like it was quirky to be proud of your ignorance. Or that doing it was just fine because you do it "ironically." Yet people still view certain minorities through those stereotypes while they got next to no representation for themselves against it. And the occasional blackface or (frequent blackface on SNL).

You deserve so many more followers❤

Born in 1990 so a lot of my development happened in the 2000's. I remember everything just being really mean spirited and wanting to kill myself constantly. It's a time I have no nostalgia for, I would never want to go back to that.

i remember saying the R slur all the time when in the late 2000s Everyone around me my age was saying it, both online and irl and i just... i guess i assumed it was just a more exaggerated version of the word stupid. I remember mum telling me not to say it because it was offensive, and my thought process was "of course it's offensive - it's an insult" a few years later i realised that it was essentially like the N word for disabled people and never said it again

I love this series. There is one thing I wanna mention in regard to the age gap in relationships on film in the 2000s. If you look back into film history, it really started with The Graduate. A lot of older men whenever Anne Bancroft's photo as Mrs. Robinson comes up love to romanticize the fact that Ben was "lucky"? Like, that whole thing with Mrs. Robinson and Benjamin is statutory and wouldn't be okay now just like the shows you mentioned in the 2000s that romanticized student/teacher age gap relationships. Nothing against the actress because I absolutely LOVE almost everything she was in. I just don't like that character and it was obvious she was written by men

@BryonyClaire

Жыл бұрын

Oh fully - it goes back to film beginnings really, with older men being paired with very young women, look at Carey Grant and Audrey Hepburn in Charade, pretty much every Bond movie, gosh there's so many examples it was just so normal but the way it evolved in the 00's was...gross to say the least

@rebeccassweetmusic4632

Жыл бұрын

@@BryonyClaire I'm pretty sure that Audrey was 34 in that film and was playing a fully grown adult (even if she was a bit younger). However, I get what you mean. From what I understand, Cary Grant did feel uncomfortable playing an older man having sexual relations with a younger woman. All in all, I do still love that movie, though and I am glad you brought that up. The Graduate? Uhhh... Never again! I love Anne Bancroft as an actress and a woman and I think there are much better movies with her in them that don't portray her as this "cougar." What I find interesting is that YEARS since she was in that film, she actually felt ambivalent about that role. Honestly, I can kinda understand because instead of talking about the character in terms of her personality and deep character analysis, men always wanted to talk about her as this "cougar" and not a victim of a sexist society turned to a creepy female predator

Love this video, so many excellent critiques! The one thing I would say though is during that cultural appropriation segment, you do say the word g*psy, which is a racial slur, and should not be used outside of reclamation by actual Romani people. I get that this was over a year ago and you’ve likely learned since then, but I just wanted to point that out for any current viewers. Love your content, and sorry if this comes off as overly harsh. We all have more to learn ❤

Sorry if I missed it in the description, but what's the song from 0:18 to 0:24? I haven't heard it in years 😅 Great series, thank you so much for making it, and enjoy your weekend celebrating 🥳

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

The Rasmus - In the Shadows, totally iconic song from the 00's, they're still around today it seems but it's the only song of theirs I know 😅

@VL-rh5tu

2 жыл бұрын

BTW the Rasmus is going to represent Finland in the Eurovision song contest this year 😄

@sidnope5524

2 жыл бұрын

@@BryonyClaire thank you! And I'm pretty sure it's the only song of theirs I know as well, but wow it takes me back 😊

My husband went to high school with Austin Jones. Apparently he was always super creepy, even back in high school

I *love* how open we get to be about who we are in 2023. How can you possibly respect varying disabilities, sexualities, mental illnesses, relationship structures, religions, etc. if we never meet anyone who embodies them?

Its so insane how the 2000s was like a new time and yet they still went full misogyny and racist and ableist, which is very ironic. Also its truly terrible time to be marginalised truly they had good fashion but my god its so messed up i was born in 04 and like genuinely i have nostalgia for that time for specific areas but the full picture is so terrifying omg i hope the world progresses more, at least to the point gwen stefani realises that shes the bad guy and uncreative for constantly appropriating but srs we have a long way to go. Ngl able bodied actors playing disabled people legitimately gives me the ick like disabled actors literally have very little roles and its acting so its very competitive.

@richardfloridaman

Жыл бұрын

Homophobia was the worst out of all of them... I had to dropout of high school February the 18th of 2005 because I was recieving homophobia from everyone in school for years, all the kids of all backgrounds, whyte, blak, hispanik, a$ian... they all had a free pass to hurt us.

When my teenage niece said the 2000s was better..I bring all of this up

It really does seem that there's so much more awareness now than there ever was before so I can't see it as things have gotten worse.

It’s so weird how when I hear Just Lose It by Eminem, I can suddenly smell the hair product I used every morning in high school! (Bed Head After Party to smooth out my split ends after frying my hair to sh*t with a flat iron).

My favorite things about the 2000s are Linkin Park (still have my original copy of their Meteora album), Zoids Chaotic Century (anime), Final Fantasy IX (video game), Drakengard (video game), BLAME! (manga), and making mix CD's with illegally downloaded music from limewire. Everything else sucked. Edit: Also my weeb ass loved toonami - that was where I watched Zoids

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

Final Fantasy IX was an actual obsession for me, and I do not use that word lightly. I wrote stories, built school projects around the characters, spent as much time as I could on my brother's console playing the game, heck, I set things up to record the soundtrack on cassette as I was playing the game (for the umpteenth time) so I could listen to it. So you could say I was kind of a fan. Also very with you on the Linkin Park choice

@mechanical-scarecrow3064

2 жыл бұрын

@@BryonyClaire Final Fantasy IX is the first rpg I ever played and I feel like it profoundly affected my development as a person. I drew the characters all the time, had figures of them, plus a vivi plush, and went through phases of almost all the characters being my favorite. They're all so great and I love them all! I still have have the goal of cosplaying one of them (probably Black Waltz 3, but THOSE WINGS). Knowing now that I'm trans and agender, I'm realising why the black mages were so important to me as a kid and made me feel seen. I have some of the soundtrack in my spotify playlist even now (love "you're not alone") and my ring tone is the Black Mage Village theme. I bought 2 separate copies for ps1 when my original got scratched and have it on PC and Switch as well, so I've bought it 4 times. I've lost track of how many times I've done a full play through but its a lot. I *think* the only thing I haven't done is get Excalibur 2 because I don't want to rush through the story even through I have it memorized by now lol. The first fanfic I ever read, before I even knew what a fanfic was, was Freya x Fratley and I printed it out and still have it somewhere with the date of printing on it. Sorry for wall of text, but I have SO many feelings about this game!

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

@@mechanical-scarecrow3064 it was the first RPG I played too, honestly it gets v overlooked because as you say the story telling and characters are so well done. Oh gosh, the idea of rushing through the game feels like sacrilege just to get a sword! I sometimes listen to the soundtrack if I need to calm down/escape still to this day. Ah, the fanfics! And I honestly think the black mage storyline helped a lot of people who didn't feel seen, I've definitely heard someone else say that before who was struggling with their identity. Amazing how much impact a game can have, right?

@mechanical-scarecrow3064

2 жыл бұрын

@@BryonyClaire Agreed! I think the game means a lot to the people who took the time to play it. The fact that the memoria project exists makes me so happy. While it sucks that FFIX hasn't gotten the full reboot that FFVII did, just the fact that people are willing to work on it for free rather than because its their job purely out of love makes it so much more meaningful.

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

@@mechanical-scarecrow3064 I'd never heard of the memoria project and now I'm going to watch all the clips, thank you for telling me about it! I know FFVII is much more popular, but damn, I'd love to play an updated version of IX

I have so many wish lists, I’m probably not going to ever get a fraction of the things on my wish lists, but it’s like make believe play shopping, where you don’t spend any money. 1:04:12

Omg I don’t have english as a first language and didn’t even know lame was a slur! I only knew one of the meanings :o

I was young for the 2000s... the one highlight that comes to mind are the snack/candy Yogos. I ended up getting into the emo/pop punk scene on the late end towards the 2010s.

Oh man... watching Grey's Anatomy and ER became a ritual in my college dorm. I had the largest TV on the wing so my pledge class would pile into our room and the big sisters brought the booze. 😅 It was an all female building and you could hear the screams or sobbing from the Sports Center across the street.

Why,can’t this world understand? Let people love who they LOVE? No one’s business is it? I mean, it’s not cool to out” someone” without true proof. I def agree. However Im an open person, not that im bisexual or lesbian. I think it’s normal, for a chick to crush” on a woman. Say a popular singer or sultry model. It’s like,they don’t necessarily sexually effect the person,but perhaps the style… Or sometimes when alone,this crush just comes into a fantasy feeling maybe… Also influencing their artistic art. Whatever that maybe. So thats how I’m feeling about this stuff. Again!I still to this day feel this same. No one influences my brain. I’m absolutely not into the idea of being in the a middle of a 3 some…..my brain doesn’t work like this. I’m very glad you hit the body dysmorphia though being male & female! Very good work here Well Done A+❤😊

Indian fashion getting appropriated by Western culture come and go. It was at its strongest during the 60's when hippies got heavily into Indian religions. And also during the British Raj.

Looking back on this era it’s just so weird to see how much of the old world (pre millennium) was still holding on and shamelessly reinforcing itself upon us all despite how society really thought it was so advanced at that point lmao but I guess you can apply that to any age really it’s just so weird to think of this era in those terms cuz I remember growing up as a kid back then and just accepting it as normal

Firstly love this mini series. But I need some help here... so what's the real meaning of lame? To me it only means when something is not exciting or when a horse has a bad leg, what is the reference to ableism... A lot of words can have dual meanings and context is everything, if I say that's crazy, referring to something out of the ordinary, I am not equating it to a human state of being. In the same way if I say turn on the light I am not talking about colour shades. Why would someone take things personally that are completely not aimed at them or any condition they may have, and the context does not make a dig at a human condition, where is the issue? Also just a quick note, system of a down are Armenians, their lead singer is still an activist against genocide and issues in the region to this day ♥️

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

I've got some links in my bio as well as videos about ableist language and reasons to not use certain words in our vocabulary when there are alternatives, there's a lot of history here and as a non-disabled person, I recommend you look to what they're saying, not me 😊 And yes! I love their work!

@robokill387

Жыл бұрын

The word "lame" literally refers to having a limp or some similar condition that limits a person's ability to walk. Using it to mean "bad, uncool, boring" is problematic because it's basically saying disabled people are "bad, uncool boring", otherwise, why would you make that association? It's similar to how in the 2000s we used to say something was "gay" to mean uncool, unmanly, terrible, disgusting, etc. That generally wasn't directly aimed at a specific gay person, but it's still recognised now as homophobic, because it's saying gay people are uncool, unmanly, terrible, disgusting, and using that as a shorthand.

What do you think about japanese people wearing Chola aesthetic?

I somehow missed this in my feed. I think I already have PTSD watching the first 2 minutes lmao

@BryonyClaire

2 жыл бұрын

It's a pretty heavy watch! If you need something lighthearted afterwards I've just released the best things to come out of the 2000's so you can have a distraction :)

@The_C_Word

2 жыл бұрын

@@BryonyClaire yeah I saw the part 3 come out and wondered how I missed part 2 and went to your channel and somehow I’ve been missing your channel for a month. 😭 Gonna catch up and do my nails tonight!! 😃

4:03 actually it's perfectly fine for non-Indian people to wear the saree since it's not a sacred piece of clothing

Yes on men in eyeliner! Or as it was called back then, *guyliner* bc I guess it was otherwise reserved only for girls and women. I got made fun of for liking how guys look in eyeliner and styled hair. People would imply it made them "gay," and me gay for finding it attractive. It was very much because of the toxicity of the time that was encouraged. Shortly before Justin Bieber came on the scene and was mocked relentlessly, mostly by boys/grown men, for "looking like a girl that nobody could be into" despite being a teen heartthrob. They (unsurprisingly) had no concept of the female gaze. Guys got p!ssed off when girls thought he was attractive lol. Like, dang, everyone was *so* fragile while pretending not to be. And those remnants are still hanging on today. Men wearing makeup isn't foreign to me, and I won't blink an eye at a guy wearing natural makeup, but a part of that is because of my exposure to K-pop over the past decade, where the guys were/are constantly called gay/girls for making use of makeup. Clearly people like how it looks, yet some people *still* act like it's abnormal, and are just exposing their "limited" views in the process. And I'm not referring to subjective preference, either. Obvious male grooming, or even straight men using chapstick and hand cream still gets made fun of in small towns to this day. I have some older acquaintances that haven't truly grown past the problematic pop culture of the 2000s, and think everyone's "too woke" now. It's weird bc they're not exactly at the point in life where changing and having one's beliefs challenged is seen as a lost cause. The y2k revival has its charms, but I honestly don't care for it (the fashion was horrendous imo), especially considering most of those indulging it don't understand how toxic that point in time was for so many. It shouldn't be glorified. No era is perfect, and we're always learning, but boy do the 2000s have a special flavour of wtf that I don't care to relive.

have you considered making a video on classic punk and how it evolved to modern punk? i'd love to see your take on it, if you're interested!

Honestly when it comes to cultural appropriation, even people from non white cultures would disagree with you. Most people outside of the US just genuinely don't care as long as you don't disrespect the culture by insulting it or whatever. Also, whites in the US do not belong to European culture so whag about European cultures being appropriated? Even now, cottagecore is heavily inspired by European countryside and culture and so is the clothing, where the out roar on that?

@KaiDecadence

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's like how in the early 2010s when that image of a girl who wore a kimono to her prom, Japanese people who lived in Japan actually thought it was nice to see someone outside their country wearing the garb. Or how even with Gwen Stefani back in the days when she wore bindis, her boyfriend who was Indian's mother saw nothing wrong with it and even gifted her one.

@the.earthlyaquarius

Жыл бұрын

@@KaiDecadence lts always woke Americans who cry "wuaaaahhh oppression!!!" when this happens lmao

@erinnadia0409

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I remember reading that Gwen’s partner’s mother who was south Asian gave her jewellery and bindis