Thanks for the video. I'm picking up my 23 Silver tomorrow! You made me have some peace buying the 2.7.. Thank you!

Thank you for your real world tow testing, very impressive. Brother tows with 2011 Silverado 5.3 camper approx. 6k loaded. Does ok on reasonable level ground but requires very high rpm on grades yielding 8 -10 mpg (Ca Sierra Nevada Mtn). Great to see new options for most who only tow part time.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

The ability of the turbo to give that low end power is amazing. It has very little need to downshift which saves a lot of trans wear. I would bet the 4cyl would hold speed at 3k rpm no problem with 6k lbs.

Very well done video. Exactly what I was looking for.

I have a 22 sierra elevation with this motor and so far it's been great 👍

nothing will ever sound like a V8 but with the technology now days is great I am all about the towing as I am in a 5.7 tundra

I am super excited that this engine is in the 2023 colorado. Going to be a phenomenal midsize truck for towing

Hardest part is getting used to the sound of a four-cylinder in your truck ! Lol but I love mine

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

exactly

@AC-ir3od

Жыл бұрын

That was another thing that tripped me out. It sounds like a civic 🤣😂, I will definitely consider purchasing one.

@checo8187

Жыл бұрын

My brother has the 22 and he had the same comment lol, he ended up putting a cold air intake and exhaust to give it a deeper sound.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@Checo818 it sounds weird when towing up a hill, kind of tractorish

@joalyincontroly4379

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 That's what I thought, seems like even just idling with the hood open it kinda has a clackity diesel sound. I'm just basing that from videos so far, but I ordered a Colorado ZR2 with this engine and I'm excited to feel 430 pounds of torque in the midsize package.

great video.. the 2.7 turbo made me a believer. I do not miss my GMC Sierra 1500 Denali 6.2 thirsty V8 for this little turbo version. I have not looked back. no issues towing my 23 ft pontoon and tandem trailer to/from the lake which it about an hour away on super hilly roads. Truck is a beast and a keeper.

@Hector.Amezquita

11 күн бұрын

How is it going a year later?

I bought one in August and I'm impressed everyday with it!.....

The way you talked about trading in and losing money made me serious about your test vid. Truly amazing video mate

I bought a 2016 F165 new in 2016. It now has 89,000 miles with both stock turbos. I towed a 96 4x4 Tahoe 5,300 lbs. on a Uhaul trailer 2,000 lbs. it only has 375 lbs-ft torque @ 3,000 rpm. I didn’t have any problems going up hills.

Just bought a 2023 trail boss z71 2.7L turbo LT, 1100 miles now, still not broke in yet, this is my work truck, I am supper impressed with this motor, I am a V8 man old school, I am caring about 3800 lbs in the back of this truck, it has dropped about 2" but cannot tell there is anything back there, this is just like and they designed it this way to be just like a diesel engine, so much torque in this engine, my 6.0 and my 5.3 don`t even compare to this, it's early but I am very very pleased, not going to mention any MPG yet just because the vehicle is to new at this time, thanks and good luck.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I like mine, 17k so far

@panchovia

Ай бұрын

Lmao 😂

@majalt491

22 күн бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 what are you at nowadays? also what gas mileage do you get when not towing vs when you are towing?

I used to have a 2013 Ram 1500 and pulled a huge 30 ft boat with it. It rode good unloaded but like you said, it would squat all the way down until I added airbags. Ram is comfy for daily driving but trucks need leaf springs for weight handling. I now have a Silverado 5.3L but my friend just got a 2.7L Silverado and I'm anxious to drive it and see how it compares.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

100% agree Ilove my ram uinless I was towing

I just got a 2023 Chevy Silverado 1500 custum and it tows pretty good. Really good video though keep up the hard work

@buildsomethingstupid1736

9 ай бұрын

Thanks

I am all for small displacement turbo charged engines. I haven't driven one of these yet but I absolutely loved the 3.5 Ecoboost I used to have.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

9 ай бұрын

This doesn't feel as fast as the 3.5 but still plenty of power. It does however feel stronger in the 1300-2000 rpm range as i can tow very well without downshifting

Wow I'm impressed.. thank you for sharing that video...I'm getting ready to get one this week..

I have a 2023 Chevrolet Silverado LT 4 cyl Turbo with towing package. I changed out the factory air filter for a K&N factory type air filter, just after I picked it up. The best mileage that I have gotten so far with this setup is 32.7 mpg. I have towed several large loads. Works great.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@donaldlaratta9925

Жыл бұрын

Wow that is great, would you have the. K&N factory type air filter part number#

@freebehindbars8654

Жыл бұрын

This is nonsense. Lol seriously. Zero owners are getting anywhere close to that, downhill.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@freebehindbars8654 he probably is resetting the mpg counter after he is up to speed on the highway. The truck has a built in feature for recording "best mpg" and it will ONLY count a complete trip from start up to shut down and a minimum of 25 miles. My personal best is 29.2 mpg on a long highway trip on a 55mph highway

I'm digging the tech GM invested in this 4 bang. This isn't a fail, fly by night engine. It's got incredible future, just like the 3.0 duramax. The R&D team over there is hitting on all cylinders. GM continues to impress. A creative person might have to tinker with this boxo de quatro 🧐🤔 and try pushing for 500hp/750 ft-lbs. I'm actually pretty certain with some bolt on parts, water cooled aftercooler, tunes, etc it could achieve that with stock internals. Very cool engine that says Honda from the outside, and Sherman Tank from the inside. The 3.0 duramax is another incredible engine worth tinkering with. I'd be thrilled to have the 2.7 or 3.0 diesel in place of a typical truck veggie juice.

@Long-nd8bq

Жыл бұрын

from what my friend who owns one of these trucks is saying, there aren't any tunes yet because the ECM is locked/encrypted by GM. Hopefully someone can crack it because I'm sure it has a lot of potential.

I also have a Silverado with a 4.8L. I tow a 3600 lb. travel trailer with it. These four bangers show promise. I just hope it has longevity.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

That's close to the boat weight I accidentally spun the tires with

@johnlynch5221

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 That's crazy! But I like it.

Love the video!!! If I compare the other trucks V8 and V6 the I got before. And very surprised with my 21 Silverado 2.7 and I love it. Pull my 5,800 camper easily and my trailer with the big lawnmowers for all summer and no problem so far. Very happy and good fuel economy... 💪🏽👍🏽

@jonfrink5944

3 ай бұрын

How is it pulling in hills and wind...bad conditions in general? Looking at this truck right now.

I just got this truck I agree with everything you said ill update this when I get through my first tank of gas I’m at like 230 miles now and still have half a tank

I just purchased a 2023 Chevy Silverado Custom, and the truck is growing on me. I miss my 2019 Silverado and ramble of 5.3L v8, the longer bed, and the features on that truck. Nevertheless I really like my 2023.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I do miss the sounds

Seems like an awesome drivetrain! I took my new 183 mile 2023 Sierra 1500 4x4 with the 2.7 to Orlando Speedworld this past Sunday and ran a 14.59 @ 93 mph in the quarter on the one run I was able to make.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

That's about what stock 5.0 mustangs ran in the 80/90s

@offgridliving4128

Жыл бұрын

Just think if you did a cold air intake a exhaust cut out and a tuner.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@offgridliving4128 don't tempt me! Pull up sounding like the fast and the furious

@thomasmcghee2468

Жыл бұрын

Crazy right? How far we’ve come and folks still criticize this engine

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@Thomas McGhee I always crack up when someone says something like "I WOULD NEVER GET IT BECAUSE WHAT IF I WENT TO PULL AND TRAILER AND IT COULDNT PULL IT!" That just shows how delusional the world is. I grew up towing cars and scrap with an 85' f150 with an inline six putting out a WHOPPING 114 HP. Lol. It pulled fine. This has more than double the power

I’ve always been a V8 guy but my V8 Silverado with a 6.0 is a dog towing our boat up any kind of grade. Also the fact is averages about 11 mpg not towing anything just sucks. The mpg while towing? I don’t even want to know. The technology in this 4 cyl is downright impressive. I would consider getting this Silverado with the 4 cyl. Your truck didn’t even break 4000 rpm merging onto the freeway. Insane!

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Those older 6.0s are dogs, I had a 2001 and got the same 11 MPG. This thing tows way better and gets 29 on long trips, 22 with my normal driving around town + highways, 17 mpg while towing open single axle trailers, 12 mpg while towing 10k lbs.

@88corinutza

6 ай бұрын

@jpete3027666 We have a 2015 4 door 4x4 6.0 dually with 4.10 gears. gets 11 mpg all day. Pulling our 10k 35' TT it gets 6 mpg and it HATES hills it basically Sucks lol

My 2020 5.3 silverado gear hunts terribly only loaded to about 5k lbs. Before I had a 2019 silverado 2.7 I had bought new. My only complaints were the new body style glitches it had. It got great mileage, and it made the same power as the 5.3 trucks I drove while it was in the shop.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the 5.3 I test drove definitely shifted more often, and I'm sure that only gets worse with towing, I think it's the really high torque the 2.7 has. Less need to downshift and it tows more like a diesel truck.

@calebferguson3930

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 it has to be that low end torque the 2.7 has.. I also loved having the 2.7 pulling a hill on the rural interstate at 70mph lugging along and having a 5.3 6 speed beside me that I could hear downshift twice to keep up going up the grade.

I am sure that the power plant has plenty of power. Most people hear 4 cylinder and immediately associate that with anemic performance. Turbos and the associated technology are the great equalizers and small displacement engines can indeed perform as well as or even better than old school naturally aspirated V8s. I have had both the 2.7 and 3.5 Ford ecoboost motors in F150s and they were both more than adequate as far as the power was concerned. One thing to remember is that you must be hyper-vigilant with the maintenance with any boosted motor since the high internal pressures put additional stress on everything and they tend to also ingest small amounts of soot due to the EGR systems. Not much of a problem if oil is changed very regularly and high quality synthetic is used. However (as I learned on my 2012 F150 I bought used) if maintenance is deferred or even pushed out to manufacturers recommendations that soot can wear out internally lubricated parts like the timing chain system. Although it did last 180K miles I had no record of the past maintenance. Good luck with your truck it sure looks nice.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Well said. All my trucks growing up were from the 80s. And although i miss the simplicity, these newer turbos out power them all.

I ditched the v8 in the summer of 2019 for the 2.7 Chevy RST 4x4 and have no regrets. In fact I love the engine and when its time for a trade in I will get the same unless GM comes out with a inline six version of this gasoline engine.

This turbo is amazing! It’s powerful and it will do everything you need in a 1.5 ton! The Custom is king. Chevy got it right,

What a great video!! I’m convinced!!

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Impressive. For most of us who don't tow regularly or that much (9k lbs), this truck makes sense. Durability will have to be reviewed after this engine has been in the field for a couple of more years, but I anticipate it will prove to be such a durable engine. I only wish that GM had a 6-speed manual trans available still as an option on its light duty trucks.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I really miss manual transmission options! I have driven quite a few new manuals though and they don't have the same feel as the old ones. They are all dual mass flywheels now and they just don't feel like the old ones

@freebehindbars8654

Жыл бұрын

Carbon buildup on this design has been an issue, at lower power outputs. Idea like to see those valves.

@NSNBPEINFLDTECH

11 ай бұрын

@@freebehindbars8654 absolutely, that's one of the biggest head scratchers about this engine. GDI has been around for a while and most manufacturers have gone to dual injection, like Toyota's D4S system. This is such a new design, why didn't GM do the same?

Superb video of actual towing tests. I like your straight-forward approach to presenting your findings. I purchased a Silverado with the 2.7L a month ago, and don't plan to tow anything close to weighing 9,000 lbs, but it is good to know how the truck would perform. Your video shows this very well. I was told by my sales guy at Chevy, who seems to be very genuine (not a BS artist), that he was sent to Indy to experience towing tests with different engine options for the Silverado, and he was impressed by the near similar performance of the 2.7L vs. the V-8s. As it relates to some comments about the life expectancy of the 2.7L, he mentioned that he was told the 2.7L is only the 2nd engine that GM has tested that they could not yet blow up on a test stand, with 2.5M effective miles on it. Now, to what extent this is true, to what extent GM worked the engine and so forth is open to question. I'm sure to get to 2.5M miles (equivalent on a test stand) the engine had to be well serviced, oil changed etc. And maybe it was never pushed very hard, I don't know how it was really tested (proprietary to GM anyway). But being and Aero Engineer with experience designing aircraft jet engine components, I can say that it doesn't serve much purpose to put an engine on a test stand and baby it. The goal is to find what the weakest link in the chain is. So, I guess time will tell if the 2.7 is a dependable engine, I'm hoping for my sake and others it is.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

A couple people in the comments have mentioned the block was designed similiar to a diesel block.. I like the sound of that! Additionally I can say you almost never see an engine "wear out" it's almost always a support system that fails that causes the engine failure. Like oil leak running the engine dry, coolant leak overheating the engine, etc. So I don't have any reservation about pulling this much power from a 4cyl.

@robd380

Жыл бұрын

They used a tilting test stand to make sure the 2.7 turbo didn't starve for oil and they ran it under full load with the turbo glowing red for months at a time with no problems. That's what sold me on it after watching the video.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@robd380 that's cool, how can I find this video

@robd380

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZoyJ14-ReLOnn5s.html The test stand scene starts at 7:25

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@robd380 thats pretty cool. Diesel strength components and some pretty hard angle testing... and coolant temp cycling which is extremely hard on engines. I'm feeling pretty good about it. I might keep this truck longterm and put a little lift and 37s on it

Impressive! I'm planning on buying the GMC Canyon with the same engine, hopefully it will be all the power I need.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Can't imagine needing more power in a midsized truck. If I keep my truck long enough it will end up with 40s and a regear (they all do)

I saw an interview with the engine lead on another youtube channel the other day. Diesel tech in this engine, diesel style 3 layer metal rod bearings, and top ring groove is steel (solid steel with cast aluminum piston formed around it). Sodium filled exhaust valves (that used to be race car stuff) and electric water pump, so you can keep flowing large amounts of coolant even if the engine is near idle after a hard pull....the engineer said turbo diesel like performance, and he is exactly right...make torque down low. I am impressed with what they have done.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I like it, just towed at max capacity again today and as always was impressed

@ericj810

Жыл бұрын

Pulls strong and hard that's for sure!

Fantastic video. Idk why everyone gives this motor such a hard time. Obviously it sounds worse than a V8 but that's not the point. It's totally capable right up to its limit, as your video demonstrates. TFL just did a deep dive into the 2.7 with the chief engineer, it seems like a perfectly reliable choice, especially the 2022+ updated version with the updated 8 speed. Meets the needs for 80-90% of half-ton truck owners, and 99.9% of midsize truck owners.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I love the motor, the only things I don't like about the truck is some of the software concerning the auto climate control and the infotainment center.

Looking at getting a Colorado with this engine for towing a 5000 lb travel trailer. Sounds like a diesel. Thanks for sharing.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it'll tow it great, and best of all get great mileage when you aren't towing

Nothing beats the longevity of the 5.3

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Don't they have lifter and oil consumption problems

@Hugh_jasshole1980

Жыл бұрын

@Build Something Stupid Evrey chevy I've had will drop half a court between changes...usually because of a rear main leak and lifter noise can be the O-Ring in the oil sump. Never had a 5.3 to drop a lifter or leave me beside the road since 1999. They are 300k mile plus engines if took care of

@gregrowe1168

Жыл бұрын

The pre afm engines were the best. The 4.8 was pretty bulletproof too and had enough power for most people. I’ve got a 2003 with the 4.8 and at 165 k miles, it runs great. Gets decent fuel economy for an older truck, though it’s an ext cab 2wd, probably in the 16-17 mpg range. I tow a small utility trailer with it but it makes little difference in the fuel economy.

@rotelfan2000

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 any 5.3 needs AFM delete from jump street. the engine itself is great, the AFM on top of it has issues (some years worse than others)

@brianhuffman3202

Жыл бұрын

@@gregrowe1168 I've got an 04, 4.8 litre, reg cab 4x4 and at only 65, 18 to 19 mpg isn't too bad. IF they would make a retrofit 6 speed for our older trucks we could have some gain in fuel economy.

Great video...

I love a V8 always. But there will never be an argument I won’t agree that vehicles keep getting better and stronger. I love the idea of 4 cylinders. They are simple and reliable for the most part. Why not upgrade it to work too?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

V8 noise is definitely better

430 ft-lbs of torque is massive and 2.7l is a big 4-cylinder. it amazes me how good these small turbocharged engines have become, look at the ford EcoBoost, its a monster for a v6

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

The 3.5l ecoboost is ridiculously quick with a trailer on the back. I had a 17 ecoboost

@mikecastleberry9671

Жыл бұрын

Pos fords

First I want to say, very well done video! Love the editing and your explanations right to the point. On the truck, the more I read about it and the more I hear real world accounts, I am so impressed with it. Seems like a great all-around balanced powertrain. Your highway MPG testing was awesome. As far as durability time will tell but there are some of these with upwards of 150,000 already. Plus I know people are scared of the technology but there are a ton of EcoBoost running around with several hundred plus thousand miles and those are probably even more stressed with dual turbos and more power and they seem fine. My next truck is a Sierra elevation with the 2.7 🙏

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

The more I see the 2.7L Chevy the moore I like it. 430 lbs of torque is massive and will definitely be enough for a daily driver, Home Depot running, weekend boat trailering. If you have a 15,000 lbs camper you need a 2500. This truck will do everything a weekend warrior would need with some to spare! Down side: I don’t trust GM small engines. Had 2.5L 2010 Equinox that drank a quart of oil every 500 miles. At 80,000 the engine was on its last leg so I traded it in. Not a good experience. Hopefully GM has learned from its mistakes. And I do not like AFM system. Why turn a four banger into a two banger? Complexity for very little gain. Nice video, thank you

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@markswinford4546

Жыл бұрын

This was my exact line of thinking too. I might use my 2.7L to tow a trailer for yard debris or small camper, but the power output suits me fine. And at 57, I dont care if there is a hamster on a wheel powering it, if it does the job.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@Mark Swinford in this case a VERY muscular hamster haha

I was shocked, I had ordered a custom built V8 LT silverado but after driving the 2.7 turbo, I changed my mind and ended up getting a trail boss LT with the 2.7

@buildsomethingstupid1736

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I have no complaints its been great so far. 22k miles

Awesome video! The only other thing I’d like to see is towing from 70-75 mph. Can it do that without screaming at a high rpm? Thanks again.

I rented a 4cyl Silverado and it screwed up my whole thinking process about a "truck". I was very impressed on power and how fuel efficient it was when cruising on the highway.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

When I was looking, this loaded silverado was 2k cheaper than the cloth f150 I was planning to buy and I thought "maybe I'll go check it out before I buy the ford". I saw on the sticker it was a 2.7l and I assumed it was a v6 like the ford (cause 2.7 is huge for a 4cyl). Test drove it and thought it drives good, rated for 9600 lbs, and 2k cheaper and loaded. I'll just buy this, this will work for me and save me some money. Didn't figure out it was a 4 banger until a week later

@AC-ir3od

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 🤣😂 it's trippy

I have owned a half dozen 5.3L's. Including a 2020 Silverado RST. I was hesitant to get my 2022 2.7L. But I will never go back to the 5.3L. It is quicker, more fuel efficient (verified, not just computer), tows great. The only downside is the sound. So I'd that if that's important to you it might not be for you.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it is really weird to start a truck and have it sound like a car

@imathreat209

Жыл бұрын

Hey good input, wasn't even sure there was a 2.7L until now. I haven't been in the car market since 18'. May I ask what fuel efficiency your getting over the 5.3L?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@imathreat209 kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmdryap9ntu4nJc.html

@imathreat209

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 thanks

@dm-lombo1647

Жыл бұрын

@@imathreat209 Yes! So we have a cottage in northern Michigan. We travel there twice a month, every month. In my 5.3L(2020) I would average between 19 and 22 actual(Weather depending and an average speed of 75 & 78 mpg) With my 2.7L. I average between 21.5 and 24.5 actual(Again weather depending and an average speed between 75 and 78 mph). Speed varying depending on the speed limit... Again that's actual confirmed, not just computer. It drives my wife crazy me always checking it....

Good to see they changed ... Gonna give it a try.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

The big 4 cylinder?

@richardzapalajr.4412

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 the big 4cyl

@richardzapalajr.4412

Жыл бұрын

Did you know... It'll tow a dodge mega cab diesel ,and get 12 mpg @ 60 MPH... Did it from Dexter MO. To wheatfield IN. This is the early version the big hp engine must be even better. All I can say is I'm convinced.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Nice

The Out start is a pain in the but! That's my only complaint! Like the gas mileage. I am in the market!

I own a 14 ram hemi now and I can attest to your comments about it. And mine doesn't even ride that good for having coils on all 4 corners. My next truck will be GM. I like the 3.0L LZO duramax and this 2.7L is impressive. I believe this engine is the better option over the 5.3L. But I'm leaning towards the 2500 6.6L gas. Great video man good to see people doing actual towing videos with these trucks👍

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love 250/2500s

@TheSavage3.6

Жыл бұрын

why would you downgrade to a gm

@msclecarcrzy

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSavage3.6 What would you recommend?

@TheSavage3.6

Жыл бұрын

@@msclecarcrzy personally if i was in the market for a new truck i’d get a used 2016+ ram with the pentastar 3.6L and supercharge it. they’re forged from the factory and can push out 500+ HP, around 700 if you do supporting mods and the 8HP70 can hold it too.

@dan43213

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSavage3.6 let's see, the hemi blows exhaust manifold bolts and even cracks exhaust manifolds lol. Also hemis wipe cams, just like the silverado. I had a 16 ram 1500, got tired of replacing wheel bearings and at 75k miles I got the tick....next day traded it off.

I own 2022 2.7 so love it. I use as my car. Because I hate cars. I only have one problem and it is the info center. Periodically it makes my speakers sound blown. My Chevy dealership won’t do anything about it.

Did you get max towing package or is it just the normal trailering

I really like my new 2023 2.7

I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 hemi and she huffs and puffs towing my 2015 Jayco 23rb travel trailer on the highway....I do live at high altitude by the way. The issue is the transmission gearing...it's to high. Also, on take off it cannot chirp the tires. I'm sure the 34' tires on 20" wheels don't help either. At first I thought GM was crazy dropping a four banger in a truck but then I remembered little tractors use four bangers.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Yeah most things are geared for as much fuel economy as possible. Not a fan of that aspect

We have a 2022 Custom Trail Boss with the 2.7 turbo 430 ft lbs torque and love it. We put our golf cart in the bed and pull our 28’ toy hauler with motorcycle in it at roughly 7700 lbs no problems.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Nice

@ericj810

Жыл бұрын

Hows the truck still doing pulling the toy hauler? Any issue's? Put down alot of towing miles? Only 1 person I know has 114k on the 2.7 pulling 7600lbs camper with just regular maintenance.

@toddc.4749

Жыл бұрын

Well we have no where near that many miles but still pulls great and no issues!

Once you get it tuned you'll like it even more.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

How much HP you get?

I have tested the dash mpg vs actual mpg on my '23 LT 4X4 2.7T and its been about 0.5 mpg optimistic. My last truck, a '17 Sierra base 5.3 was usually 2 full mpg optimistic. Also, not towing, but on my 16 minute commute with 25% 30mph roads and 75% 65-70mph interstate driving, I get better mpg using the trailering mode...like 2mpg better.

So you are totally satisfied with its towing capabilities? I have been on the fence with this and have watched all the videos I could find for towing. Yours showed it the best. I won't be towing 8k+ on a regular basis but I would like to know that it will do it no problem if I need it. I'm very impressed with this setup.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

100% Satisfied. The combo of massive torque plus excellent trans programming makes this the best towing 150/1500 I've ever used. The RPMs stay lower climbing mountains than anything ive ever towed with. I just towed the boat 4 hours in the mountains and dont think it ever went over 2500 rpms.

Who ever buys one of these is a brave soul. V6 engines have come a long way but I’m still weary of them but a 4 cylinder is crazy to me. In sure it’ll be mostly trouble free during the warranty period but out of that who knows.

I have a lawn care business and i am looking at getting one of these

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Tow good when you got your mower and good gas mileage when u dont

@charlesjacksoniii8787

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736Chevy says it will be the standardd engine.

What could an ecu tune do for this vehicle?or an exhaust or CAI ?

WOW, I wonder if if this truck would tow a mini skid steer/ mini excavator. Im planning on buying one within weeks. Im torn between the double cab elevation and the double cab LT texas edition

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

If you can tow it with a 10k trailer id say its fine for that.

Finally! A video I wanted to see. But my question is did the truck feel sluggish with all that weight?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Every truck feels sluggish with 10k lbs behind it! I can say i am 100% happy with the towing ability. The trans shift patterns are great and with the turbo 4 all the power is real low and torquey. During normal highway driving it typically stays around 1800rpm and only drops 1 gear up hills with driving

Setting durability aside, this thing (L3B) is magnificent! Having been in Tundras for years, I'm intrigued. Back to durability; I've watched the GM vids on it's design parameters and testing. I don't really trust any manufacturers today, Toyota included; but this engine is extremely significant to GM's future and they've taken it seriously. 3 years + after introduction and the 5.3 is less reliable than this 2.7 from what I've read in forums from owners.

@markswinford4546

Жыл бұрын

Thus far that is what I am finding too, more reports of issues with the V8 and not this 2.7L. I have an older Silverado with a 5.3, no issues at 160K, but I never towed heavy loads with it either.

@sharkskin3448

Жыл бұрын

@@markswinford4546 5.3 Vortec was more durable than the 5.3 Ecotech.

@markswinford4546

Жыл бұрын

@@sharkskin3448 - GM probably went through a cost cutting effort to cheapen the Ecotech out, and paid for it with poor reliability.

@sharkskin3448

Жыл бұрын

@@markswinford4546 they went for direct injection for fuel efficiency and lower emissions. Toyota and Ford added direct injection, but kept port injection, which keeps the valves cleaner. The combination of the 2 is beneficial you engine life. GM must know this. I don't get their thinking. Also, there have been major issues with the 8 speed trans. I blame government intrusion and inept management. It's a shame. GM has the best automotive engineers in the world. They should get in charge, not the "woke", green new deal executives.

@markswinford4546

Жыл бұрын

@@sharkskin3448 - Big businesses are run by bean counters, for the most part. Although GM's Mary Barra is a EE, so respect given there. The problem with many businesses that make anything in the U.S. is younger people no longer have the hands-on skills they once had. They dropped industrial arts in high schools years ago, the thinking was everyone was going to be a "professional" (lawyer, doctor,...). My Dad taught shop classes in a HS in Skokie IL for 30+ years, and I inherited his hands on skills. So, many engineers right out of college go intro spreadsheet management work, task tracking... BS like that. And I know BS when I see it, I have a B.S. in Aero E. Maybe some of the hands-on skills are coming back, after the outsourcing mania has peaked, and the bean counters now realize that outsourcing everything has problems too, think container ships stuck in ports. Below is how I applied my hands-on skills, now enjoy flying. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYl6t6l7g5edY9o.html

Only time will tell with these 2.7s

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Yep pretty awesome tech tho

@WesDuncan

Жыл бұрын

They've been out since 2019. I've heard of no major issues. Less issues than their V8 siblings.

Do you have the truck in tow haul mode?? It didn’t look like it, which I’m even more impressed with

Good video

These new vehicle performance tests are nice and all however I would like to see how this engine endures after years of towing vs a V8.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Me too

@Bangkok-ik1fp

Жыл бұрын

It won't last like an under-stressed V8. From higher internal pressures to issues with plumbing after many heat cycles, I wouldn't have one on a bet. That initial price at the dealer may look attractive but it will cost more in maintenance down the road.

@bikdav

Жыл бұрын

@@Bangkok-ik1fpMileage durability is what worries me also.

@ttime411bmw

Жыл бұрын

Anyone buying this isn’t doing towing regularly or shouldn’t be at least, I’d guess this is for the occasional towing

@ericj810

Жыл бұрын

Buddy has 114k on his. Pulls 7200lbs trailer most of those miles. Its 2021 2.7. It still has the same amount of power, just regular maintenance. He says he loves it. Another person I know has 80k on his pulls 7600lbs around same thing just regular oil change and thats bout it. Pulls strong. Its like a diesel gas hybrid.

Love mine

(JAN 2023) I've been seriously considering getting this truck. Any new updates you can share, perhaps things you may have just noticed recently that you weren't aware of, or experiencing earlier? Thanks a bunch!!

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

11k miles now, everything still works great. My only dislikes are more personal taste and design flaws with the interior (thats an opinion of course)

@pmaison

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Awesome, thanks for your feedback!!

Great video, I've been saying for a while now these 2.7s are overbuilt and should last.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully so

I own a 2021 Silverado and I am very impressed with the 2.7 turbo. I travel from Houston to Dallas and back every weekend and it only uses 3/4 of a tank of gas. I was doubting the power and towing capabilities but it has held up to what it says it can do. This was a good video to show some of the power.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@scarletboa

Жыл бұрын

This is why a lot of people like their ecoboost f150s. These smaller turbocharged gas engines tow WAY better than people would expect. That low-end torque is addictive.

@gregrowe1168

Жыл бұрын

@@scarletboa funny thing about the ecoboost engines are they are selling because they perform well and not for the intended reason of improved fuel economy. Even the 2.7 is a powerhouse and seems more reliable than the 3.5. But have to be driven conservatively to get decent fuel economy.

@scarletboa

Жыл бұрын

@@gregrowe1168 I have a 2019 3.5 f150. Driven lightly, I can get 21-22mpg out of it. It can also tow 10k lbs better than my previous 7.3 poweratroke or 5.9 cummins. The diesels were down to 50-55mph on steep grades while the f150 holds 70mph with reserve power. The way I see it, if you don't have to tow over 10k, an ecoboost f150 gives all the towing satisfaction of a diesel truck without the emissions-related headaches.

@toddl1962

Жыл бұрын

How many miles do you have on it so far? I just bought a 2023 with the 2.7L HO. Love it so far! I hope it is as reliable as my last truck (Ford 3.7L NA)

For the next gen Silverado's, they should just pair it with the 10 speed, all of the other Silverado engine options are paired with 10 speed if im not mistaken

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I wouldn't touch the trans, it really shifts/tows great. I'd be afraid a 10 speed would be a gear hunter

@gregrowe1168

Жыл бұрын

I can’t imagine any of these 10 speed transmissions making it past 100k miles. I honestly think that’s the benchmark for reliability for new trucks now, last just long enough to be paid off and throw it away and buy another.

What do you think Lance? "It's an amazing machine..."😳

I’m curious how the fuel economy is under a towing situation, with the 4 vs 8. Just thinking the 4 motor working harder than the 8? If a guy was hauling more often than maybe the 8 would be better?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Turbos generally use more fuel when under boost. I get 12-13 when towing the 9200lbs. And 16-17 when towing a single axle trailer.

Great video. I wonder what the lifespan of these engines will be.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Hard to say, but I do like the fact that they used all diesel internals on the engine build. The ability to get high 20s mpg unloaded and still tow almost 10k lbs is awesome for my situation

The 3.0l duramax is the best for towing and fuel efficiency

Chevrolet Silverado 2.7 T is great I bought two of them

That’s all I need when I get ready to purchase a truck that’s what I want.

Love mine. Actually believe it's better than my 2013 with 5.3 vortec. God knows fuel wise it is. It pulls my boat like nothing even leaving the ramp is effortless

@williamwhite8355

Жыл бұрын

I have a 2013 5.3 at the moment. I used to crap in these 4 cylinders but looking at the numbers and videos like this I think I just may get one. It does seem like it is better than a 2013 5.3 which has done everything I’ve needed it to do so why wouldn’t this do the same right?

@larryporter35

Жыл бұрын

@@williamwhite8355 I have had mine now for8 months still shocked of how it compares to my old truck. Only thing is I miss the sound of the v8. Grew up in the 70s and 80s so lot of cool v8 and sounds.

The reason there's discrepancies in the fuel mileage on the cluster vs on paper is due to the truck's measuring system not being able to measure every cubic inch of fuel in the tank

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Actually the fuel consumption is measured by the computer via fuel pressure and injector pulse length. The DTE is estimated by the fuel tank sensor.

Awesome performance from this engine.Most owners would be more than happy with the 2.7.The fact that it's a 4 cylinder is hard for the traditional v8 lover to get beyond.But not me.Id buy one in an instant if purchasing a new Chevy or GMC truck.Who needs a v8 sound over performance, not me.Current ride is a 19 F150 Lariat with the 3.5 Ecoboost, love the torque

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

The 3.5s are amazing

@brianhuffman3202

Жыл бұрын

I've read and watched the video's, haven't driven one. My complaint is the MPG's aren't there. YES you don't spend 1800+ on the 5.3 but for NEXT TO no MPG improvement, why take the chance AND what NOBODY is mentioning, TRADE-IN value when that time comes. You've got DECADES of knowledge knowing what to expect with your traditional truck trade, but plowing new ground with this 4 banger.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@brianhuffman3202 You're going by the sticker mpgs. This thing gets 28 mpg on long drives and 20 around town. so there is definitely a huge mpg increase. As far as resale goes.... It seems to me that 4 door trucks hold value forever, whereas the 2 doors dont regardless of the engine option.

I’m thinking about buying one kinda skeptical about the engine I tow for long periods of time around 3000 pounds but I like the performance and gas mileage.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

3000lbs the truck wont even know its there besides the gas mileage drop

What trim did you get guy?

I bought one of the last regular can BBC short bed with this 2.7 . I will be taking a long trip this week. Look forward to the mileage it gets at 80 mph freeway speeds.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I got 25 overall on my long trip

@Bangkok-ik1fp

Жыл бұрын

negligible, you're still pushing a brick thru the air

@fscottgray9784

Жыл бұрын

@@Bangkok-ik1fp I got 19 mpg going all freeway at 80 mph. Really about +2 mpg is all the better I got than my 5.7 hemi. It needs a turbo boost gauge.

Is that an inspection sticker ? Where do you live to have to still have that?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

9 ай бұрын

Virginia, we have a lot of lame laws here. My Excursion is currently out of commission until i replace my head studs because there is mirco exhaust leaking around the manifolds

Do the Silverado Trim's that offer the 2.7L Turbo not have a Tow/Haul mode? If they do, I wonder if that would change the transmission timing from what was seen in your test

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

It does have tow mode I just don't use it because I'm not into engine braking unless I'm actually going down a long mountain grade. I wouod rather use my brake pads than use my engine and trans

@dodianderson932

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 You are better off using the tow haul mode when towing. It is better for your whole drivetrain. At minimum it gives increased hydraulic pressure on the clutch plates as well as locking the torque converter in lower hears to reduce heat and wear, it also keeps the engine more in it's peak torque rpm range.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@Dodi Anderson since writing that comment I did finally remember to put it in tow haul mode and it didn't drive me nuts like they usually do. Every other truck I've had has made very big jerky downshifts... this truck downshift like butter and I don't even notice the downshift till I look at the RPMs and see them over 3000

Nice video.. though it makes you wonder if these 4 cylinders will get 200k + miles like the V8s.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Any motor can get 200k miles or 2k miles, just depends on how much you fix them

@ProbeGT2

Жыл бұрын

Breaking news my friend, those v8 does not make it to 200k miles anymore. The 5.3 and 6.2 had a lot of troubles. I think in fact, the 4 cylinder is their most reliable truck engine since it came out.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@ProbeGT2 as in Ford Probe GT? I had one when I was a teenager

What size Mahindra tractor are you pulling ? Is that the 2638 ? Looking to buy that same set up and pull with my diesel 1 ton dump truck but also want to be able to pull it with my 2.7 liter trail boss. Any information would be great. Thanks

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Yep it's a 2020 mahindra 2638

was the bouncing from the road or the load and suspension? Nice video

@frederickdouglass7517

Жыл бұрын

Thats a heavy load for any 1/2 ton truck so its going to bounce around probably just as bad on an F150 and maybe worse with the Ram.

What kind of mileage did you get pulling 9200 lbs

Curious about EGTs/turbo temp towing in traffic and hills not just highway

@buildsomethingstupid1736

3 ай бұрын

Well I have never driven it with a scanner attached, but coolant and trans temp stay exactly the same at all time once fully warmed up. Any hot day towing or not towing the trans eventually reaches 195-205. If you are unloaded it takes like an hour to get to that temp when loaded its only about 20 minutes

cool !

Id buy one in a heartbet.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

No regrets here

I have one too and took it off-road to the beach and it did as good as anything out there. The 4wd pulls like butter.

can you adjust the trailer brakes? does the truck have a integrated brake controller? Trim level?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Mines an LT and yes has a built in controller and yes its adjustable

Yes it will do it but if towing a lot light or a little heavy how long before it shits the bed?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I don't see why it would fail sooner than any other engine, all the internals are diesel metallurgy from the pistons to the crank. I think of you took a regular motor and slapped a turbo on you have a point.

Hey, do u notice any oil burn between oil changes? some people are reporting about a quart low after 5k of driving. THANKS

@buildsomethingstupid1736

3 ай бұрын

zero drop and I check because the intervals are so long. typically at about 4k miles i check and then again right before i drop off for oil change

I just think it is unfortunate that you can’t get the RST trim with the 4 cyl like pre-refresh models. I am very happy with my 2020 4 cyl RST.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

True I kinda like the 21's front end better. But the 22" extra torque is nice

@1134Dproductions

Жыл бұрын

@Build Something Stupid I like the color matched bumpers and grille, and LED taillights from the factory on the RST trim. My use does not require the v8.

@ProbeGT2

Жыл бұрын

I had one on order and the dealer called me back 5 months later telling me i can't have it in the rst anymore... I was really pissed off.

What kind of MPG are you getting with the 4 popper. I'm very interested in the new breed of 4 cylinder turbo's as tow vehicles. Wondering how the engine's with the turbo's will hold up. I"m assuming they do require premium gas?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Regular gas, and gas mileage about 25 on long trips at 70-75 mph. You can get 28mpg if your speed is between 50-60. Around town very short trips is about 17mpg. My overall gas mileage (if you read the trip meter for 10,000 miles) is 20mpg. Which includes 20-30 minutes idling per day and towing a couple times a week. To put that in perspective, my 5.7Hemi with multidisplacement was about 16 mpg overall. So about 20% gas savings

@GoldenK9Campers

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Do you have any sort of estimate on the gas mileage towing a smallish popup camper around 2,000 lbs on long highway trips? Thanks !! Nice Channel !!

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@GoldenK9Campers if it's a low profile pop-up camper that only weoghs 2000 pounds I'd think 22-23mpg

It's a engine that can tow for most people and daily drive and not kill you at the pump.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Exactly very functional for 99% of truck owners

Would love to see the transmission temp during the trip

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't budge at all, exactly the same as normal driving

@ronniehenson4122

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Thanks!