Check out the towing test. 10,000lbs with a 4 cylinder! kzread.info/dash/bejne/mpd1wc6AdLXLntY.html

Love the low tech analysis and how you didn’t waste my time. Thanks

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Both of your videos about the these trucks are great.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Why people watch the video and not subscribe to this great channel, good info brother, thank you !!!

2021 crew cab 4 wheel drive I get 21 on whatever road I drive which makes me question the computer. Love the power of the 2.7 and with 33000 miles have had no issues.

Great comparison. Good to see it's getting the EPA average. I'm considering this but have the usual reliability concerns.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

New vehicles are always a guess

@markman7

Жыл бұрын

This engine was designed from the ground up to be a robust truck 4 cylinder. I would have no problem owning one, but my towing requirements are at 10k probably 5-8k miles per year. I opted for the 3.0 LM2 with max tow in my 2022.5 Silverado with no regrets.

I'm pretty pumped to see what the 2.7 does in the upcoming Colorado.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Should be awesome in those

Great video. I cant wait for this motor in a midsized truck.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I'd bet that would get some great mileage in a canyon/Colorado

MPG testing vs comment section is always a hoot. Anyway. I've had three HD trucks with the 6.0, two trucks with the 5.3, a diesel Colorado and now a 2.7 HO. Worst were the 6.0s (obviously). All 3 of them (04, 06 and a 15) got around 11mpg per tank avg in the winter, 13-14mpg per tank summer. On a long distance trip (NY Thruway) over say 150mi round trip you could squeeze 15-16mpg out of them. The 5.3s. First one was a 2012, the second was a 2019 old body (same as the 2014-2018 style). the 2012 had AFM enabled, got 13-14mpg per tank winter, 16-17mpg per tank summer. The 2019 was AFM disabled and 93/E85 dyno tune. Pre mods it was a 14mpg winter, 17-18mpg summer per tank truck. About the same post mods (except on E85). The 2.7 HO is the second best MPG truck I've had, and feels faster than my 2019 did stock, maybe a hair off it post tune. Its 5049lbs curb weight, where the 19 double cab I think was around 5400lbs. So far I'm running 18mpg per tank winter, 19-21mpg per tank summer. I tried a 100mi MPG loop with it, cruise set at 58 in a 55 zone for about 90mi, the other 10 being city and got 26.9mpg.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Yep that's spot on

@rdsii64

Жыл бұрын

My 2018 2.7L ecoboost F150 gets about 27 in 10th gear at 59 mph. I can't say I will always drive a Ford, but I won't ever go back to an N/A V8.

@chuppoacobra

3 ай бұрын

This pretty much describes my experience with our 23 1500 LT Crew 4x4. When I tow 5500# TT u get average 10 to 12 mpg

Thank you for this review...

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

No problem

I have a 21 Trailboss with the 5.3. Impressive as the 2.7 is, I just couldn't do without the V8 rumble. The first week I had the truck, I installed a Pulsar LT to get rid of the auto start/stop and DFM disable, and who wants their truck to sound like a helicopter...? I also installed a CAI cold air intake and a muffler delete pipe from Summit Racing. Additionally, I changed my throttle response to 20% over factory. I was getting IRL 14-16 mpg prior to the mods. After, I was getting around 13. I then switched fuels and strictly run a Pure 90 no ethanol fuel. It seems to have brought me back up into the 14 mpg avg, and I drive this truck like it's my Vette. The Pulsar was a bit pricey at $500, but I have no buyers remorse. The simple fact in knowing it may just save my lifters, cam, starter, fly wheel, battery and rear end, trumped the price tag. I'm no engineer, but it just seems that spreading the workload over 8 cylinders would be better than spreading it over 4 of them. Seeing as both transmissions can be found in both trucks (no special gear magic). I don't hate on the 4 banger bros out there. Its just a matter of preference I guess, but the fuel savings for me doesn't justify me giving up the sound and seat of the pants feeling you get from a V8.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Definitely miss the v8 rumble

Thanks for this helpful video! I'm thinking of a truck as a daily driver and dirt bike hauler, but would like something that won't cost a fortune at the pump. Good to know the 2.7L turbo is powerful "enough" for real life and gets good mileage.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I can't speak to longevity of course because they are new motors but it is a great daily driver and really good gas mileage for a truck.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

The towing video will post this week. I'll be pulling 9200lbs

Great vid. Chevy said the the 2.7T would get better mpg than what the sticker says and this proves that correct.

The 5.3 is downshifting up hill because max torque is at a higher RPM. Nice thing about the turbos is the low end torque. The turbos should get better MPG unless you're towing. Mileage will drop off towing. The 5.3 has had lifter problems. Overall it would be nice to know which of the two engines is most reliable and durable. Thanks for the video. Good info.

@LinusScrubTips

Жыл бұрын

Probably both shit. GM has a terrible track record with small turbo engines. And the 5.3 is unreliable because it’s the new LT based engine. LS based LM7s 5.3s are still on the road pushing 400k-500k. And small turbo gas engines are awful to lug, it’s what destroys them. Mustang owner who were used to V8s destroyed A LOT of ecoboosts because they were lugging them in high gears. This problem is only going to be worse in a truck. The solution right now? Don’t buy a new truck. Of any kind. Go buy a GMT800, GMT400, or squarebody Ford if you want a reliable truck.

@63DW89A

Жыл бұрын

@@LinusScrubTips "Small Turbo Engine"?. A 2.7 L 4 cylinder has the same crankshaft and bearing layout as a 5.4 L V8, (plus can use the exact same pistons and rods as the 5.4L V8) so the bottom end of the 4 is just as strong. The 4 cylinder crankshaft is actually stronger than the V8 due to only having 4 rods attached. The inline 4 has a far simpler, more efficient valve train than the V8, and far fewer moving parts. The longest lasting engines I've ever run are the Toyota 20R / 22R SOHC 4 cylinders which lasted MUCH longer, and gave far less trouble, than any Ford, GM or Dodge V8 I've ever run

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@63DW89A there's a lot of 4 cylinders that last 300k miles

@backwoodstherapy

Жыл бұрын

The Chevy 2500 was one of Consumer Reports most reliable vehicles last year. The 1500 was one of the least. Biggest difference? No lofter problems because it doesn't have the 5.3 or 6.2. It's got the 6.6.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@backwoodstherapy I personally find it hilarious when new vehicles are given dependability ratings. JD power has like 500 awards so every vehicle wins some

That’s a good sales pitch for the 4cyl. My 5.3 in my 14” gets about 19-21 depending on tires and who’s driving.

Finally got a chance to drive one of these. I was super excited going into it based on all the reviews. I have to say though I was a bit disappointed. I thought it would feel stronger than it did and overall I felt like the drivetrain was not super smooth and yes the sound is a very odd haha. Still incredibly impressive for a 4-cylinder turbo! Just thought I would like it more. I do feel like it would do much better with the 10 speed that transmission is so incredibly smooth!

Great comparison

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Cool man. I love the idea of a truck getting reasonable mileage. I use my truck for nothing but cruising around so big tow numbers aren’t a huge deal to me. The Chevy 2.7 motor has always been intriguing to me and I’m glad to see mid 20’s is possible for mileage.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

It's a great motor. Going 75-80 I get 25mpg on long trips and I had a long drive thru a 55 mph speed limit area once and I got 27.4 mpg for the whole trip. I'm very pleased with it. And like you said. Most people most of the time are not towing anything

@rdsii64

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 This motor is ok for people who tow with a half ton truck as well. This motor makes over 400 pound feet of torque. That is enough to tow anything you can SAFELY tow with a half ton truck. People forget that once you factor in suspension, tires, and tongue weight, the tow numbers for this 2.7L and the big 6.2L V8 are closer than people think. To further illustrate this, the big 7.3 liter Godzilla motor in a Ford F250 makes 475 pound feet of torque compared to the chevy 2.7L's 420 but can tow 15K pounds because its set up properly for towing heavy. I'm a ford guy and my F150 has the 2.7L ecoboost and its amazing. With that said, this chevy 2.7L turbo is genius. Trucks and turbos go together like peanut butter and jelly.

@backwoodstherapy

Жыл бұрын

@@rdsii64 people also tend to think they need more truck than they do for towing. I've seen guys be all "well I tow a lot with my truck so I need the bigger engine" and it's like "what do you tow?" and they're usually like "mostly just my bass boat, but occasionally I'll tow a lawn mower." Ok bro. Just say you're emasculated by a 4 cylinder engine. It's ok.

@RFRUS

Жыл бұрын

I'm recently retired and decided to buy a turbo four as I haven't ever had a turbo. My previous truck (waiting to clean up and sell on my own is an 07 5.3L). I'm loving this little four as the mileage for a brand new truck is running around 20 and my old chevy never did better than 18 on a long trip. The fact that the cowboys here in Oregon won't touch a four cylinder added to a HUGE discount on the truck too.

I like your review on the 2.7L I think the mileage is accurate as stated i’m not worried about a mile or two difference. I’m not worry about longevity. I’ll spin it off as a trade after 30-40K miles buy the 3.0l diesel. I have 5.3L in my suburban and that is definitely a lousy a engine tranny set up for towing, it too has to down shift to hump hills when not towing. 13-15 mpg highway and in town driving. Un decided which one I will purchase first 2.7 or 3.0 diesel.

Would like to see a video with you towing your tractor with this truck. I have this engine and would love to see how it performs towing a heavy load like that 😊

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Funny you say that, I was already planning it! I can tell you today I was towing my big trailer and some lumber (maybe 4500lbs total) and driving along the highway in 8th gear and no downshifting thinking how amazing that is for a 4 cyl

I love the options if you want a fourbanger get yourself one but I like a v8 just don't complain if it ain't what you thought it was going to be

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

It certainly doesn't sound like a v8. Although it has a throaty tractor sound when it's loaded

I test drove a 4wd pickup with this engine back in 2020. I bought something else. The engine is fine. I prefer a diesel engine for the torque properties. This I-4 engine is a good engine! The turbo design is interesting. The 2 cyl mode is a bad thing also. No cylinder deactivation system has proven reliable. But since there are overrides or delete kits available. That is not a deal breaker. What I didn't like, was the transfer case. I have a couple of auto 4wd SUV's in my household. And only the Jeep system with the lever is really tough. The clutch system in my Ford Explorer has worked well. But the Explorer has limited ground clearance. So it sees limited off road adventures. I bought the Explorer for icy roads and snow. Which it has handled incredibly! The GM & Ram auto4wd systems don't have as good a feel.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

The 2022 I4... is now 430 lbs of torque which is almost as high as the Diesel

I've had my 2020 2.7 for just over 20k now and I will get another one when this lease is up. My mileage is not as good as yours but they've done a fair amount of tweaking sine the 1st year. Power is crazy when you think about the engine vs. the weight of the truck. I will admit that if I was buying, I'd still be concerned about longevity.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

What's the cost of a lease on these

@jnmcs

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Mine was $332/month for 36 months but that was at the start of covid and I had equity in my 2017 Colorado and made them trade it instead of just ending the lease. I will be doing that again in March hopefully. GM actually has $1750 in loyalty cash on these right now so deals are returning finally.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@jnmcs nice, yeah it looks like you timed it good! Market slowdown should help the deals come back. So just so I'm clear, you do the lease for 36months, then you execute the purchase option.... because you owe less than the value... then you sell it back to them correct? I have heard a few people who do this and they say it works out really well. How much equity do you end up with?

@jnmcs

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 On the Colorado, I ended up with just under 2K. If there's no equity, I just let the lease run out and give it back. I've only ever purchased 1 lease, for my Dad. Hopefully I'll have some in my Silverado but used car prices are dropping fast. We'll see.

I have a '21 chevy2.7 crew cab 2 wd. I only get 21 mpg on a good day. My commute is 200 miles a day. One of the sensors on the fuel went out and now I am down to 19 mpg. GM knows about the issue and has yet to issue a recall apparently it is a common issue. I asked the mechanic about the check engine light and he told me exactly what was wrong with it without putting it on the computer. All and all it has been a good truck this far, it has 94,000 miles on it and it still runs strong, but not as strong as the V8 or the 3.0i6.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I think you missed the upgraded power by 1 year

@occckid123

Жыл бұрын

All depends on how you drive and whats the amount of city/hwy or stop lights

I have two people in my county that had their turbos have to be replaced and they were 2022’s. I bought a 2022 Silverado 2500 crew cab and just put on 800 miles on it now and am averaging 24mpg in Montana and drive 80mph on the freeway and 70mph on the county roads

@sking2173

Жыл бұрын

I have a 1991 Mitsu, which I bought new, that has the original turbo. I’ll admit that I’ve used Mobil 1 for every oil change. As for your fuel mileage … you’re a liar …

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

1) I find it hard to believe you know 2 people with 2022 Silverados with the 4cyl engine. 2) even if your 2500 is a diesel.... it ain't getting 24 mpg at 80 mph. 3) your diesel engine also has a turbo, so it doesn't really make sense to say turbos are unreliable.

@sking2173

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 - Pickups push a lot of wind, but even so, it must be said that the little 3.0 diesel in the 1500 gets some excellent fuel mileage. Love ‘em !!

Yup ; got 22 mpg coming home last night will my crew cab 5.3 4x4. Had to listen to the Chevy commercial with the sick 4cyl sound on the radio. Translation: epa mpg push -

You really need to manually check the fuel mileage. The lie o meter is usually not correct

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

When they first started adding them to cars they were pretty bad but they are pretty accurate now

@sking2173

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 - The way to prove your point is to check it manually. You’ll find that the 2.7 indeed beats the hell out of the 5.3. With that, I still say I prefer the 5.3 over the 2.7 … But also, I prefer the 3.0 over the 5.3 !!

@flyer8493

Жыл бұрын

I’ve noticed that now a days when compared with hand calculations they are pretty close. You also have to take into account that hand calculations are not always accurate either due to pump measurement variations. The best way to check hand calculation accuracy is to use the exact same pump you previously used.

@ericjaczek2411

Жыл бұрын

I have the same but diesel. It’s extremely accurate

@Jay-bw3fl

Жыл бұрын

I have a 22 5.3 and I always hand calculate and compare it to the trip and the truck always says I got 1mpg better than I did. That is pretty close but still wrong and always worth hand calculating. My truck is one of the lucky ones that does not have dynamic fuel management which is the reason I bought jt. I get 15mpg city and 18 on the highway. My 2021 Silverado 1500 I had got 17/18 and it did have dynamic fuel management. Not worth the constant worry of lifter failure IMO. It’s a shame they put it on the 2.7. Time will tell.

I own the 5.3 and was able to borrow the 2.7 for a week or so. 2.7 is not horrible and if you are one who just uses the truck for daily driving then probably okay. My issue is longevity of the turbocharged engine. The truck sounds terrible and from my limited experience it sounds like it’s always working so hard. Personally I would stick with the v8. But I will say the 2.7 is not as bad as I thought it would be

That turbo 4 cyl. engine is not too shabby.

I have owned a 2016 F165 for 6 years. It has 87k miles on it. People think I'm joking when I them I have to slow down to get on the hwy. When I towed my 2001 Cadillac Deville on a Uhaul trailer. I was coming up the on ramp and was amazed how weak the engine was sounding. I had to hit the brakes because I was doing 75 mph when it was time to merge. I have the video if you want to see it. My twin turbo 165 cuin aka 2.7 ecoboost may sound like a minivan but pull like 6.0 liter truck v6. When I'm not towing. If I drive 68 mph with the cruise control on. It will get 26 mpg.

It's been noted before that a lot of times when towing/hauling the smaller engines 4 and 6's will get noticeably less gas mileage while the change in gas mileage for the 8's will drop but not as much as the smaller engines.Also wonder how these would fair plowing snow,albeit you should use a 3/4 and up to plow,,,many use to use a 1/2 with no problems,especially for just home use.

I have a 2021 Silverado 2.7 Custom and total mpg is 18.7 overall for 24000 miles.

When people claim that their 5.3 gets 25 -27 mpg. they're either lying or just don't know how to figure gas mileage. I've owned 2 Chevy 4x4 trucks with 5.3 engines. Don't get me wrong, the 5.3 is a great engine, but I've never gotten more than 17 or 18. I know other owners who are getting about the same.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, the only way they get that gas mileage is if they set the cruise at 45 and reset the fuel meter already up at speed going downhill lol

@sking2173

Жыл бұрын

You nailed it … 17-18 … but I do like that engine … But not as much as I love the 3.0 diesel !!

@johnnynguyen9449

Жыл бұрын

I've gotten past 26 mpg on highway use and proven at the pump😂

@joeloconte2314

Жыл бұрын

I get 25-26 mpg with 600lbs in the bed at 50mph on fairly flat roads. At 70mph I'm getting about 18 tops. At 80 I'll be lucky to get 14.5 lol. Here's a quick vid kzread.info/dash/bejne/oq5mtdmdiKufgbQ.html

@joeloconte2314

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnynguyen9449 kzread.info/dash/bejne/oq5mtdmdiKufgbQ.html if you can really get 26+ on the highway I would be impressed

I just bought 22 gmc sierra new now I have 5000 miles I get 22 on hiway and I'm not taking it easy doing from 65 to 85 and passing. It is a 5.3

I appreciate this review. I can not wait to get ahold of one of these trucks. Can you spec a 2.7L with a 6.5 ft bed ?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Not sure mines the 5.5. I know they make 8ft beds with them

Just bought a 2.7 turbo 2023, LOVE IT

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I like mine

Thanks for the review I’m really tempted to give the 2.7 a shot, I just wish there was more data about one term reliability but the engine is too new to have a sufficient data base of vehicles with 100k plus miles and over

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Very true! Time will tell. So far I do really like it tho. I just drove 40 miles round trip to taco bell and including idling in the drive thru got 26mpg.

@kc8653

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the potential for added power having an engine already designed for a turbo. Couple modification an a tune could probably yield more power an torque

@jeffreytalbot3431

Жыл бұрын

This motor has been out long enough for high mileage. Look it up and you will find many at 100,000 plus miles zero issues. Obviously they are mass produced, error or bad build is a possibility. This engine was designed for the 1/2 ton truck and for turbos. My only question is the active fuel management system. I have heard horror stories on 5.3L, wouldn’t the same issues appear in the 2.7L ? I have a 18 F-150 with 2.7L v-6 and I absolutely love it. Best vehicles I have ever owned. Peace

@chrisgolding1259

Жыл бұрын

30k no issues. drive the piss out of it, 20.5 avg up to 24mpg sometimes in summer heat.

@thomasmcghee2468

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisgolding1259 thanks for sharing I’m going to test drive one next weekend

The 2.7L Turbo is mated to a GM built 8-speed gearbox while the 5.3 NA runs through a 10-speed co-engineered w/Ford. It is widely used by both brands in their RWD platforms. Due to programming, efficiency is always a priority and given enough gear ratios, the optimal is not always the tallest. Great review though, I find the 2.7 (the largest 4cylinder still in production) is an amazing product as it provides more torque than the larger V8 and still beats out Ford's smaller V6 EcoBoost option on their F150.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty amazing so far fingers crossed on decent longevity

@rdsii64

Жыл бұрын

The 2.7L ecoboost makes more horsepower but less torque. I get high 20's on the highway with mine. I suspect the Chevy turbo4 is in the same ball park, if not a little more efficient. I have never owned a chevy truck. What I can tell you is after owning a 2.7L Ecoboost powered F150, I will never go back to an N/A V8 regardless of the name plate. Big V8's leave to much efficiency on the table. Whether you like Ford, Chevy Dodge or who ever, trucks and turbos go together like peanut butter and jelly.

@davidzavala337

11 ай бұрын

​@rdsii64 yeah, you can't deny the sweet sound of a V8, that's what's keeping me form a 4 cyl that's sound bad.

So to lease a truck that you don't tow much or at all this could be a good truck to lease. Nice video.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I tow 9,000 lbs about once a week and a smaller 3500lbs once a week as well.

If you don’t have an iron foot the 5.3 will surprise you. I towed about 8k from SoCal to Phoenix averaging about 15-16 MPG

That 4 banger is putting work in lol

I would like to see mileage results from the 2.7 at highway speeds of say 75 to 78 mph. This is where I am constantly passed by darn near everything on the road from tiny compacts to semi's. Driving in this mode is really keeping with the flow of traffic on Interstates 10, 20, 30, and 40 in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas etc. I currently get 21 to 22 from a 3.6 Chevy Colorado. When I get 23, I am ecstatic!

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I did a 4 hour trip on 95 @ 70-75mph and got 25mpg

@Derham43

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Super outstanding. Been looking to upgrade to a larger truck (don't need a V8) but they're not giving these things away. (Lol)

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@Derham43 they should be getting some decent deals soon, probably end of summer this year the market is slowing. I found a good deal for mine, and figured if I waited 2 years for the market to cool down I'd end up paying more because of inflation

@Derham43

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Something to really consider. Thanks and great Vid by the way.

@brendanmcgallagher203

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I got 25 in my Sierra going a 4 hour trip with mostly highways

I have watched various tests on thex4 cylinder engine yours came out with better milage than most. I buy a truck and keep for a long time. I know they do a lot if testing but the technology is a little scary I am currently driving a 2013 gmc 1500 cast iron 6 4 speed auto I will keep it as long asi can have had virtually no trouble change motor oil and filter everyv3000 miles transmission oil and filter every 30000. Milage 160000 uses no oil use valvoline oil.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I watched a couple comparison videos too... and the only one I could find that went head to head on the same loop was using a lifted 4 cyl with larger tires. Thats why there wasnt a difference

I want buy one but I will wait few years to see the i4 reliability… with 150 k or more … for now I keep my 2010 Titan v8

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I feel like they will be the new 4cyl Toyota Tacomas everyone loves from back in the 80s

I have a 22 Silverado with the 2.7 turbo.. I get 18.5-20mpg locally.. I live in the poconos.. northeast pa.. when I travel to see family in Colorado and West Virginia, I get 24-27mpg..

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

25 + for long trips in a full size truck is great. Before this truck the best I ever got in a full size truck on a long trip was 21 and that was a v6.

Wow that’s good fuel economy on 2.7 4 cylinder

So our 2007 Tahoe with the 5.3 engine and a 4speed! Transmission gets the same or better fuel mileage than a new vehicle with the same size 5.3 motor and a 10speed Transmission???

Might have missed you say this in the video, but were both of these trucks RWD or 4x4? Edit: Nevermind just saw your description that says both 4x4

Which one is more comfortable suspension wise, given that 2.7 is supposedly lighter?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

The V8 felt heavier and the engine/trans felt jerky by comparison. The steering wheel felt heavier to me as well. The truck feels just like a car to me. It drives really nice

I’m interested in the cost of maintaining each long term. Can a 4cyl turbo tow or drive as long as a 5.3 and not require more maintenance? I have to imagine if you’re towing any amount of weight, you’ll be better off with a 5.3 than a 2.7T. Just like you’d be better off with a duramax than a 5.3

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

No way to know that for several years other than the 4cyl only takes 6 quarts of oil while the v8 takes 8 so slightly less on an oil change. One way to look at the longevity.... a V8 has 8 cylinders each with the bore, 2-3 rings, valves, valve seats, pistons, cam lobe, bearing, wrist pins, etc..... that's 8 cylinders and 8 chances of an imperfection during manufacture causing a catastrophic failure. On a 4 cylinder... there's only half the parts... and therefore half the chance of a catastrophic failure.... I truly believe 99% of engine have a catastrophic failure... the engine doesn't "wear out" wearing out would be running so long that the rings wear out and you actually loose compression. That is really rare. So I'm not really concerned about the load on the engine I think the support systems make the engine and we will see how they hold up

@henryjoshual1848

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Yeah, it has "half the parts" but those parts are working twice as hard. After 4 years of towing, the turbo will be fried, trust me on that one....

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@Henry Joshual so why do you think this turbo will be fried but not the turbos on diesels?

How is the 8 speed transmission on that 2.7? Did GM solve the issues that have plagued this transmission since its inception?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Mine works perfect and has excellent programming for towing. Never any hunting for gears

I'm of the opinion that the debate as to which engine platform, v-8 vs turbocharged I-4 is better, will continue for quite some time, because for many, bigger is better is ingrained in our mind's history. But allow me to add my anecdotal experience, granted that I am talking about a small (2.0 L), turbocharged 4-cylnder SUV. I drove a 2018 VW Tiguan with just over 50K on the odometer 1400 mi in Summer, towing a 800 lb, enclosed U-haul trailer. Typically I average about 35 mpg unloaded in this SUV on the highway. It's not very aerodynamic, and even less so with the trailer I was pulling. I maintained a steady 65 mph during this particular trip, averaging 27-28 mpg. I could merge with highway traffic without a problem, even maintaining a speed of 65 mph climbing Cajon pass in the San Bernardino mountains. The curb weight of the SUV is 3800 lbs. I was pleasantly surprised by the performance of this small 4-cylinder engine.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Yeah "better" is a tricky word. Which one makes the most power with the least fuel and lowest manufacturing cost? The turbo 4. Which one sounds better and gives bragging rights? The v8

What exhaust system do you put on your two point seven leaders

Doesn't the 2.7L turbo require 93 octane fuel while the 5.3L is still using 87 octane? If that is true, does your fuel savings calculation reflect the additional cost?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

No, minimum 87 octane is required. 93 is "recommended" for ALL Chevy engine options. 87 is all I use and zero noticeable difference vs premium... now my ecoboost mustang on the other hand... I definitely notice a difference using premium, but that's because it's a manual and I can only notice between 750 and 1250 rpms

I have a 2017 1500 crew cab 6 1/2 bed with the 5.3, 6 speed trans and 3.42 rear and I get 17/25 with that. So what did they do to the new V8 to get less mpg ? I thought the 10 speed trans was supposed to be better. I'm just not sure about the 2.7 turbo reliability. I'd like to get a new truck just not sure what to get. This video does help a little. Thanks

@bryane2857

Жыл бұрын

To get that milage you claim with 5.3 you are driving downhill all the time with the wind at your back. I call B>S

@marksmith9459

Жыл бұрын

@Bryan Elsbury Call what you want it's true. My current average is 17.2 and that is mostly city driving. Last summer I went to Virginia and got 583 miles on 22 gallons. That's 26.5.

For longevity of the engine outlasting the monthly payment schedule, I will still have the V-8. Buying a full-size pickup for gas mileage makes no sense.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

The funny thing is I used to have a 2007 Gmc 2500 with a 6.0L V8 which got about 12mpg. This has more HP than that truck.

@sking2173

Жыл бұрын

But CHOOSING one pickup over another based on fuel mileage makes perfect sense …

What would be better? This 2.7 or 5.3 or 6.2 with a 10 speed or 8 speed, I’m looking to lift my 1500 10” and put 40” tires my buddy had the 8 speed transmission and says it lugged he also has the 10” lift with 37” what’s your thoughts. Thank u great videos

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Me personally I'd like to do a 2.7 lifted with 40s just because people would lose their mind about it being a 4 cyl. If you re geared it would be an awesome turbo whistlin monster

The 4 cylinder doesn't have the lifter dropping issues like all the GM V8's do so that's a better choice imo. I actually purchased the Duramax 3.0 for my 21 and I love the thing. Great video..

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

If I can get ahold of a diesel 3.0 in stock I'll probably do a comparison woth that too

@slocavky

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 I just did 32 mpg with it on a 30 mile trip all 55 mph highway

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@slocavky that's pretty nice my best is 27.4 in the 4cyl

@LinusScrubTips

Жыл бұрын

It’s going to shit itself because it’s a GM 4 cylinder though lol. Just buy a GMT800 if you want a good truck.

@jguerra0117

Жыл бұрын

The 4 cylinder does however, have the turbo blow-by issues. It’s a pick your poison situation really.

I'd be thinking how much will it cost when the turbo will need replacing right after the warranty expires? Won't that more than eat up the gas savings?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

So do you think this turbo is more likely to fail than a diesel turbo?

I’d be concerned about long term dependability with turbocharging/supercharging ei high combustion chamber pressures.Though I’m also concerned about the damage cylinder deactivation does.I can’t believe there’s not more negative reaction to it or embarrassment from GM.Especially since the late 90 early 2000s seamed so bullet proof for 500k miles

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

It's funny that no one seems concerned about turbocharging diesels reducing longevity though isn't it?

@johnandersonjjr

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 well not since GM made a diesel out of an Oldsmobile engine in around’78 there’s unfortunately no shortage of automotive engineers over estimate their abilities and the customer ends up with a major malfunction and a silent manufacturer,ei cam l/lifter failures head bolts pulling out of (aluminum) blocks etc etc

@heyscott73

9 ай бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736another interesting point is how heavily influenced the 2.7 is by diesel technology. Long piston stroke, cast-iron ring carriers, and forged steel parts allow the engine to perform like a diesel.

25mpg is great. My 4.3 only get around 20. so you think the 2.7 will tow a mini skid steer? or mini excavator? Im planning on getting a new truck, and I was torn between the 5,3 and 2,7. I test drove a 2.7 gmc, and that thing felt great compated to my 195hp v6. I love the turbo jetsons mobile sound

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I'm going to post a video towing my tractor within the next 2 weeks, between the trailer, my tractor and my attachments I'm right about 9000lbs. The max rating is 9600lbs so if you're running a 10k rated trailer I'd go for it. Mine tows the tractor just fine.

@sking2173

Жыл бұрын

I really liked that 4.3, but it doesn’t compare to these newer engines as far as fuel mileage goes. I sold my last 4.3 truck back in 2011, and I’ll bet it’s probably still providing good service. That was one of GM’s success stories …

@lc6785

Жыл бұрын

@@sking2173 I still have my 1994 sierra with the 4.3 that has 389,000 miles on the original engine and transmission with no major issues.

@samusaran7317

Жыл бұрын

@@lc6785 So much money wasted assuming you're the original owner.

@lc6785

Жыл бұрын

@@samusaran7317 How have I wasted money by keeping my 1994 that I bought new?

I wonder about how long do the ultra-high rpm turbochargers last after warranty is off and expensive out of pocket replacement cost ?? Long ago I had a turbo-diesel VW that easily averaged 48 mpg’s, and got rid of it just before factory warranty expired. In those days, diesel VW’s were in high demand, like a cult following, it had the least depreciation I’ve ever had in a vehicle. The diesel could set outside all night at 18 below and still start.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Who knows? I tend to think of turbos as 100k should at least be the life, 150k you can't really be mad it broke and 200k it lasted great.

I have a 2019 with the 4.3 V6. I just took a 500 mile trip. I got 23 MPG.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Nice what's the hp and torque on those?

@Truckguy2007

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 285HP and 260F P torque

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@Michael Dugay that's not bad, these have 310 hp and 430 torque if you ever want to upgrade

Wow the 2.7 is impressive

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I'll be uploading a video this week... towing 9200lbs with it

@mexking2683

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 that's would be great 👍

What's the GCWR? I figure there will be a huge difference.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Not sure I'd have to look at the sticker but the v8 I think is rated to tow 13k lbs vs the 9600lbs. Doesn't really matter to me because the brakes and suspension is the same and anything over 10k I'd get a 2500/250 anyway

my 18 2.7 ecoboost supercab gets about 24 on the highway averaging above 70mph

The 2.7 has 8 speed, automatic ninth gear and tent gear, overdrive’s, I believe with the 3.42 . V8 has a 10 speed with three overdrive gears. 7-9-10

At those speeds I get around 28 with my 3.0 diesel rst 4x4 21 year

Let us know how you feel about it when theirs 150,000 miles on it their might be some different opinions but I don't think it will hold up near as well as the 5.3

@mikeriv60

Жыл бұрын

5.3 is a POG engine.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Will do

The Silverado/Sierra is my favorite 1500 truck … but I prefer the 3.0 diesel. It’s worth the premium …

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I think with diesel prices being so high its a wash

@centralvalleyamerican8085

Жыл бұрын

@Build Something Stupid true. My 3.0 gets 31.9 on the highway consistently. That with the added power, still a great option

@sking2173

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 - Yeah, but the diesel’s performance is nice. And the range is easily over 600 miles - even the 4-WD. This is a great little engine !!

@michaelbogdon2632

Жыл бұрын

I also rather the 3.0

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelbogdon2632 what's interesting is that people are saying "the V8 is better" or "the diesel is better" and the thing is that the 4cyl has more HP than the Diesel and more Torque than the V8 lol

GM needs a 5.4 liter turbo V8. Basically two 2.7t engines. Imagine the power and torque.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Holy crapballs I like that idea. 620 hp, 860ft lbs of torque.

@davidzavala337

11 ай бұрын

That would too cool, so no.

I'm curious if the 4 cly engine feels slow? I live in a city but also drive a truck for landscaping and other truck uses, however i would want to know if I would have any trouble accelerating fast to keep up with traffic or pass people if needed/wanted?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

No problem at all. I wouldn't say it feels fast, but it feels like a completely normal truck. To put it in perspective of newer technology... I owned a 2007 GMC Sierra 2500HD with the 6.0 motor... this has more HP and Torque than that 6.0L did, and it's definitely faster.

@tomhealy9718

Жыл бұрын

I just picked up a 2022 last week. I will say it’s deceptively fast. I had a 2022 3.0 duramax that Chevy bought back, and I think this 2.7 is way more responsive and feels just as powerful

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@tomhealy9718 from what I understand the diesel is the slowest of the engine offerings. Sadly with the regulations the way they are... diesels cost a lot more to buy, and fuel cost a lot more, and those saving don't come back with the improved gas mileage. You just break even on fuel usage.

@randycook4283

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 My 3.0 feels much peppier during normal driving than the 5.3 does. Once you're above 50MPH though and lay into it, the 3.0 does feel a little more sluggish compared to the 5.3 but stop light to stop light or just driving out back roads the diesel feels quicker. Where it really shines is that low end torque though and the 10 speed trans that is standard. It tows and hauls so much smoother than the 5.3 gas truck. Now if diesel prices will come back down I can also start enjoying the fuel cost savings again... I'm averaging 24MPG lifetime with the truck. Most trips that involve mostly highway driving I get 28 average. My 5.3 was tuned and I had to run 89 octane but it was getting 15MPG average and up to 20 on highway trips with the same exact wheel and tires. That one had a 3" lift and the diesel truck has a 2" lift. FWIW I've used about 8 gallon of DEF in 7500 miles on but I do haul a lot and that includes a long trip pulling a trailer as well. Unloaded you could probably go a whole oil change on one jug.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@randycook4283 that was my feeling as well for the 2.7 vs 5.3, the 2.7 felt peppier under normal driving but the 5.3 has more when floored.

Does this 2.7 turbo engine use regular 87octane or higher octane gas

@davefreeman1499

6 ай бұрын

It uses 87.

Wait tell you have to do a tear down on the turbos or the engine at 60-80 thousand miles on the 2.7 . The 5.3 will be going a long time after the 2.7 gets melted down for tin cans.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Maybe, more expensive things tend to get rebuilt so they gain the "appearance" of longevity. For example... everyone thinks diesel engines last forever.. but every guy I know with a diesel has had tons of engine work and or a rebuild. Meanwhile I low lots of gas motors that have 300k

I have a 2019 LT crewcab 2WD 5.3 and it gets REAL 20 local and 24+ at 70 MPH 700 mile trip South Carolina to New York Interesting but the Virginia part of the trip ON 95 always gets the best MPG

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

With the traffic?

@tommays56

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 I always leave South Carolina at 3 AM or earlier to beat the DC traffic with the right weather I have gotten as high as 28 BUT that’s quite Rare with 24 over the 700 miles being easy to get The MPG starts out around 21/22 in the hilly South/North Carolina sections and improves Quite a bit as you get to the more level mid sections of the trip Anything over 70 and the MPG will really start to take a hit and I got the 2WD specifically to avoid the extra drag and gas usage Locally I am on the Coast of South Carolina and it’s completely LEVEL

I bet the 4 cylinder turbo ia going to have more issues than the V8 and the second hand value is also going to be lower than the ones with V8's.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

let's say a 10 year old truck, how much more do you think the V8 will be worth

The 2.7 is a great engine for the Colorado, not sure about it being a good choice for the 1500 Silverado. Might be great if you're not towing heavy. Thanks for the comparison. Cheers.

@raylaux8295

Жыл бұрын

Hear,. hear!

@MeltingRubberZ28

Жыл бұрын

5.3 isn't a great motor if you're towing heavy either

@MrSparks54

Жыл бұрын

@LiberalsWillDestroyAmerica Good to know. I have a 2500 6.0 so I'm good 👍

@raylaux8295

Жыл бұрын

@@MeltingRubberZ28 Agreed, but Your a fool.

@MeltingRubberZ28

Жыл бұрын

@@raylaux8295 you're*

The shifting on the hill is a function of gearing And mileage should always be hand calculated The eight speed transmission that comes with the four-cylinder is very problematic ask any GM technician.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I like my 8 speed so far, I've heard of a lot of issues with the 2021 version. Maybe they made some changes for 2022 and up

So you'd enjoy driving a sonic as well?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

You didn't like the fast and the furious movies?

I have a 2022 5.3 and it has a ten speed trans. What trans do these trucks have?? A ten speed will downshift more than a six speed!!

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I think the 2.7s have 8 speeds

Eh I think the exhaust note you get with a V8..... to me would be worth the $960 a year 😂 it would be different if V8 we're still getting 15-18 mpg on the highway like they were years ago.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Lol, can't argue with that

Cheaper to buy the 4 cylinder, gets better gas mileage it seems to have a better ride quality. I don't know that there's much to argue about. Sounds like just a technology improvement that everybody should embrace and say goodbye to the V8. I have a 2014 5.3 l and in the city the best I get about 16 on the highway if I really baby it I might get 22 but that's doing like 60 to 65 mph

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

My best is 27.4

Did you have the truck in tow haul mode or normal?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

It was in normal, I don't even use tow haul while towing. The trans programming is so good it doesn't need it, only thing beneficial I see is engine braking which I'm not a fan of anyway as I would rather use my brakes than wear my engine/trans

Because 10 speed is geared different than 8 speed.

They should put the 2.7 in all of their vehicles.

Regular or premium gasoline on the 2022 2.7 ?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Regular

I wonder how the 3.0 would've done on your loop

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Maybe I'll try and find one

Do you have to use premium with the 4 cylinder? It would negate the extra mileage in California

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Nope just regular gas

@richardwagoner9083

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Good news ... everything I had read said premium... but they also said that about the Corsair and the Cruze, neither off which was true either. I like the idea if better mileage.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@richardwagoner9083 both the 4 cyl and the V8 both say "recommend 93" and "requires 87"

I get 20/22 mpg with my 2020 1500.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

The V8?

Were your MPG verified by manual calculation ?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I have had a bunch of people say that, I think I'll do a video on it, a long trip and mileage on dash vs mileage by hand

Maybe I don’t understand something. Would adding some “boost” to the V8 reduce the transmission downshifting that you mentioned?

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

To add some boost you'd have to add a turbocharger, and then yes it would have a ton more power and havebto downshift less (as long as the turbo was appropriately sized for low end power) however the v8 would then get less gas mileage

@bikdav

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Oh. OK.

@Dannysoutherner

Жыл бұрын

Add a stick shift trans instead of letting a silicone diode do your thinking for you.

@bikdav

Жыл бұрын

@@Dannysoutherner I'm a little surprised that manual transmissions are not still offered as an option.

@Dannysoutherner

Жыл бұрын

@@bikdav Probably some kind of emissions thing. I know stick is much more reliable than computerized autos - older turbo 350, 400, 200 OD and 700s are good but I don't totally trust the newer versions.

I wonder what has been changed in the 5.3L? My 2018 consistently averages 21.5 mpg combined and up to 25 mpg highway (at posted speed limits, anyway... 😏).

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Don't believe it... maybe you get 25 once you are already on a highway with cruise set... then reset the fuel meter and don't have a single stoplight.

@MileHighDriverGuy

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 🤷‍♂

@Lucille69caddy

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 What’s not to believe? Besides, isn’t Highway mileage with no stops or stoplights? It’s amazing you have any subscribers with an attitude like yours!

@williamdavis4809

Жыл бұрын

I get the same results

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

@@Lucille69caddy to answer your question no that's not how highway miles are done. They still include stops and stoplights just lower frequency. I guess I should specify I don't believe the conclusion. The 21.5 average is possible if you drive an all hwy miles trip. The 25 mpg is only possible if its a best case scenario already up to speed and you reset the trip. I bet if you look at your trip meter and it has over 1000 miles you are going to see your real mileage is 17-18

The 4cyl have more rpm on the highway bc it comes with the 8 speed, the 5.3 have the 10 speed and that’s why it downshifts on the hill, looking for 9 or 8 gear when you already have it on the 4 Cyl and that’s why it didn’t down shit bc it was already on 8 gear

Having to always defend your purchase because everyone knows that is a 4 cylinder.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

7 ай бұрын

I like gas mileage, makes me feel better about driving 30k/year

You want the best mileage from the 2.7 ho, get it in a Colorado or canyon

The four is under higher stress to produce comparable power. The V8 will have a longer service life with less expense compared to a turbo four. What do I know with 30 plus years of working on vehicles. When you're pushing a brick thru the air the mileage savings is negligible.

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Lol idk I prefer 25mpg to 21 lol

@Dannysoutherner

Жыл бұрын

@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Nah, I'll take the reliability. I'm 300,000 miles into a Ford 302 I built 25 years ago. Fixing to build it again. 84 Bronco, I get 18 on the highway and no car payments included.

Same mileage I get mostly I have 2022 2.7 have gotten up to 27.3 an towing is great no down shifts doesn't feel like I'm towing anything

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

Yep I think I actually set a new record for the other day I hit 28mpg

I won't have another chevy, cylinder deactivation is garbage, love my reliable Tundra

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

I had a ram with it. 150k no issues.

I have a 2020 2.7 and average 28 mpg going 65 mph on flat highway driving. I'm very happy with the truck. How did they boost the towing to 9600lbs? Mine is rated at 7000lbs

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

They reworked the motor and i believe improved the trans/cooling system. The motor now has 430torque

4 cylinder and truck should never be in the same sentence. These emissions laws are ruining combustion engines

@buildsomethingstupid1736

Жыл бұрын

It's a big 4 cyl tho...