I could have sworn I saw this already. But maybe that memory was not my own.

@alexxx4434

Жыл бұрын

Nah, that's just a glitch in the Matrix.

@vintheguy

Жыл бұрын

This weird dream again, dejavu

@Personal_Chizo

Жыл бұрын

Same, but maybe I was just high. Who can tell? 🤔

@aaronstevens4208

9 ай бұрын

Mandela Effect

@CategoricalImperative

8 ай бұрын

Could be prosthetic… OR… prophetic.

The poetry of a video on this topic getting algorithmically memory-holed and recreated.

How can one claim that this is a serious exploration of the postmodern themes in Total Recall when the woman with three breasts isn’t discussed AT ALL?!

@LoisKl

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@numbersix8919

Жыл бұрын

C'mon, man!

@lizardbob1

Жыл бұрын

This guy totally put her prosthesis in his memory if you get what I'm saying ;)

@thesomalistrawhat

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@hardnewstakenharder

6 ай бұрын

That would require a feminist reading of the movie lol "If you don't trust me you can tie me up!"

The optimism theorists had for emerging technologies in the 1980-2000 period is lowkey refreshing but also makes me feel kind of sick in retrospect

@MiloMay

Жыл бұрын

We're all on the Fisher bed now

Alison was one of my professors when I was earning my PhD. I think I took a film and prosthetic memory class with her. Crazy to see her theory pop up in my feed.

Oh I'm very grateful for the reupload as the original never reached me! Really enjoyed this one, thank you.

@max-cs9ko

Жыл бұрын

Okay

Now I have to decide if my memory of already watching this is real

*Proceeding to erase my memories of the first time I watched it so I can enjoy it again*

@mikewallis2987

7 ай бұрын

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind can help!

Surprised that this video only talked about video games once (and it was just doom). Certain games force you into the shoes of that character, making decisions as them, in essence almost formulating that immersion as a sort of prosthetic memory in itself. Unfortunately this is usually hampered by mechanics such as a clearly indicated morality system, where the game judges your actions, functionally extracting yourself out of the equation rather than existing in said world as that character.

I think this "benevolent" shaping of collective memories, that Landsberg envisions, would and in fact does include the "memory holing" of certains events and realities so as to aid in forming a worldview and an identity most beneficial to the class or group of people holding power and those weaving the memories. This can be used to stifle or to even possibly totally eliminate the possibility of revolt or change. I would also argue that comodifying culture by necessity includes bringing it down, transforming it to achieve the maximum and the widest appeal, because this leads to greater sales and revenue to the publisher.

@mattgilbert7347

Жыл бұрын

Culture Industry

@tychoclavius4818

Жыл бұрын

Only the actions it produces makes it benevolent. She certainly doesn't argue shaping memories is good in general, or even that most applications would be good. I often see lefties bring up that the powerful have more power, therefore endorsements of this or that method of using power always serves them more. So don't endorse them neutrally. Ends justify means.

@numbersix8919

Жыл бұрын

Disney and disneyfication.

@kutay8421

8 ай бұрын

A.I. agents soon will *simulate* your alternative futures and *threaten* you with them if you cross the invisible barriers. Scary ,

This is meta, we have all been implanted with the fake memory of watching this video for the first time and only now is Jonas actually uploading it just to fuck with us and prove a point

I offer these, my meagre words, to the glory of the algorithm; may they repay you in engagement for years to come.

Total Reupload

@Birbface

Жыл бұрын

We can archive (your old video) for you wholesale

Great video as always, i really enjoy your analysis. Could you, however, add your bibliography in the description ? I'm browsing your channel for references and it would really help me save time if you did so. Thank you -- and looking forward your next video !

Beautifully done ✔️ 👏

I could hardly love this video more.

I remember watching this while high.. what a trip!!

This reminds me of "Rifters" by Peter Watts. The basic premise is that people are modified to live and work at the very bottom of the ocean. One of the characters has their memory altered to better suit the environment. Won't say how because spoilers, but it's messed up.

Really good pop to philosophy connection

Wow I'm algorithmically engaging with this brand new content !

I don't see how a memory of watching a movie ISN"T a memory of lived experience, namely, one's experience of watching a film. One still can only view it from one's own perspective.

@cipreste

Жыл бұрын

depends on your degree of immersion and empathy, it can be both also

@raulfernandez57

8 ай бұрын

He meant it in the sense that you are passively sitting down to experience the movie, not actively contributing to that experience. It wouldn't have to change the emotions you felt, just saying.

Saw it before the takedown so I'm just leaving a comment to say I enjoyed it very much and I hope it reaches many people 🙌✨

Watched this while I was high. Sent me down a wormhole of crazy thoughts.

@arthurpimenta6562

Жыл бұрын

I try to never think or read about philosophy when i'm high because it NEVER ends well.

Copyright sucks and so does the fact you had to reupload this amazing video.

I genuinely don't remember watching this, but I appear to have liked it already.

This memory implant theme (first encountered in the anime *Space Pirate Cobra* ) resembles a lot to *Time Travel Movies* . Usually the protogonist follows a mysterious character who turns out to be himself that traveled through time. And the paradox is if he may kill himself in the past. Similarly the protogonist may never be sure if his previous memories were erasen by his own will. And even may try to 'remember' or 'day-dream' memories as if time travelling. This time however it is quite easy to override his previous determination with He-Man attitude: 'I have the POWER' and no paradoxes whatsoever. But still you may not kill yourself after time travelling and get away with it easily. Similarly God and Adam (or say Mars owner and previous body-holder) may not be such easily discarded as in the movie.

@ulti-mantis

6 ай бұрын

"first encountered in the anime Space Pirate Cobra" The short story that Total Recall is based on precedes the Cobra manga by some 12 years, and it probably wasn't the first story with implanted memories too

Copyright taking down is stupid the OG video caused me to rent the film on Amazon prime and fork over money to mega corporation.

@Megaghost_

Жыл бұрын

Stremio is your friend. Embrace torrents!

@MiloMay

Жыл бұрын

It motivated me to pirate it lol

Ok that b+w film looks cool.

Thank you for your very informative videos. Happy to see tendies123 is still going strong as a patron. Yes, I‘ve been watching your videos for a long time haha😂

I find it interesting when people tie themselves (or their tongues) in knots attempting to pronounce one name, like an "authentically" French pronunciation of Baudrillard, yet happily resorting to a natural, English language pronunciation of Schwarzenegger, not feeling a need to give it a touch of Austrian inflection. 🤔

This is a great video I'll enjoy watching for the first time again :)

No one truly knows if the person in the photo is them. Used that to help people understand evolutionary biology

Retro memories are truly weird

I don't remember the original upload, my fav Verhoeven movie

@mattgilbert7347

Жыл бұрын

Niice

I hardly see how cultural appropriation and comodification could in any way be liberating or render culture universal. Popular culture =/= Mass culture

@Garrett1240

10 ай бұрын

The difference being?

@raulfernandez57

8 ай бұрын

But there _is_ one culture that would become universal: be born, work, consume, die. That doesn't matter whether you live in say, Norway or in Pakistan. Pretty much the while world has been conquered by capital nowdays. The only good part about is more like a happy accident: that at least that defintely means the working-class is worldwide and thus will have similar experiences of alienation and decay. Arguably it could have happened even without that (iirc Marx in the years before his death for example was looking into the Russian Mirs and how the capitalist stage could be bypassed) but now there's no doubt about that, at least.

Sorry you had issues with the previous version of this. I hope the reupload has better reach. You did a great job on this.

the popular view is that as soon as Doug is in the chair everything else is clearly a dream, everything points to it but officially it's up to the viewer and thus a question mark. but no technology can change a planet in seconds, end of that discussion, everything Doug asks for happens, everything he is warned about happens aka the scenario change. Melina is not real and he perceives her based on the computer screen image, the aliens on mars thing is part of the scenario too, which he first hears about from the technician while drifting off. clearly Doug was a down on his luck worker who went to Rekall and figuratively got a trip to mars. implanted memories like the Rekall scenario are still a decade at least away but will be common, however cybernetic/mechanical augmentation are becoming more commonplace and robotics globally are common worldwide. There is no such thing as prosthetic memory, rather there is in theory now and possibly within a decade or such real implanted artificial memory engrams yes, but memories are not prothesis or prosthetics like modern mind controlled cybernetic arms and legs, since memories are not physical.

I might be missing the point as a newbie to this topic, or just stating the obvious, but it feels like most of what we learn in a modern education and in news media is prosthetic - we did not experience it, just told to remember It Happened This Way. Which makes the fight between Conservative Parent vs. "Brainwashed" College Kid Now Leaning Left all the more ironic. As if the parent's memories are that much more dependable...

Really great work once again

Hi Jonas, I recomend you to watch Amenabar's film "abre los ojos" wich explores this same philosophischen topics

Yes yes yes

I'm gonna beleive that the reupload was a stylistic choice lol

👍

You know the idea of prosthetic memories being used to teach empathy is what happened to me, but it was through, ironically enough, reading old books instead

missed you truly

Love this channel

How bout thr movie The trial

Great video, really interesting topic

Does anyone remember their thoughts before language acquisition started?

@morgengabe1

8 ай бұрын

Not at all. Sounds cool though! What're your memories like? all of my early memories involve crying though, lol. And i have one of a speechless recurrent dream that just gives me the creeps.

New upload! Yippie!

Is there any connection between prosthetic memories and learning?

@raulfernandez57

8 ай бұрын

Good question

as an amputee i know more than you

How bout cronenberg's movies

Can you do a video on anti semitism??

@jonasceikaCCK

Жыл бұрын

I've actually been considering that lately!

1. The usage of empathy is IMHO not correct. Empathy is the capability of understanding someone else his fate and the projection it could happen to one self. 2. Going back in time, the question of authenticity and identity was not relevant. Until modernity people lived in collectives. They were important as a human and part of the collective to help with production of food and housing. Their life was important. The change became visible with the raise of the modern nation looking at the human as the abstract citizen, who was in a war expandable and was the foundation for income of the state by taxes. With the industrial revolution the human became the abstract worker, living behind the TV in the evening with a bottle of beer and wasting it's live at a workplace. The commodification develops at this point to it's fullest power. People are attempting to be someone, someone important for themself and for others. The migration from behind the TV to a scene of Friends is a consumer. Authenticity and identity are are part of commodification. It was Marx who wrote when people losing all abstractions putted on them, they will be really free.

@raulfernandez57

8 ай бұрын

Good points. I thought there was something jarring with his definition of empathy.

Again, a delight

Great work. I missed the first version. (I think.) Total Recall includes hints (actually more than hints) that the entire experience really is the "Blue Skies on Mars" virtual vacation Quaid paid for. Never heard about the lobotomy twist. It's the guerillas who put Quaid where he can take the final step to liberate Mars. Although he gets the privilege of doing it, he's clearly joined himself in their struggle at that point. So, for a commodity, it's a pretty subversive one and Landsberg's reading of TR is right IMO.

If it's worth getting copywronged, it's probably worth re-watching. ;)

Pretty sure I was the one who uploaded this

I guess we've all been...recalled to view this video again.

Thank you

How bout hans george moller channnel?

what happened? i watched the first upload like 4 times

@jonasceikaCCK

Жыл бұрын

Had to re-upload because the first upload being copyright-blocked at first completely ruined its reach

@raresmircea

Жыл бұрын

@@jonasceikaCCK What was different about it that made it infringe copyright?

@jonasceikaCCK

Жыл бұрын

Nothing, the copyright-block was because of the Total Recall footage, but this time I filed a dispute claim and waited for it to be approved before publishing the video

Knights of the Old Republic could've been mentioned in this vid RIP

so is this the third reupload

Video game SOMA

rlygood video

Keeping on Landsberg's interpretation my own lecture about Total Recall would be more on the existentialist side, even sartrean The displacement of Hauser's original personality by the better performance of Quaid 's prosthetic memory( & personality) would qualify as full prosthetic authenticity , analogous let say to Daniel Gilbert 's "Fake happiness" In Kuato's most aristotelian words, you aré defined by your own actions.

I need ya to talk about The Big O ;) "People ar not ruled by their memories!"

I’d like to view a commentary from mr Jonas čeika. On Darth Dawkins as a postmodern review or censure. This’ll be a mirthy unity by the fusion consisting in happiness and reason.

Prostatic memory?

Oh, and I'm in a fourth camp about what happened in Total Recall. In my head canon. Quaid simply wakes up from the memory implant device, goes home to his oblivious wife. He proceeds to break down mentally as he has tasted action and adventure but can never return to it. Succumbing to depression and ptsd, his wife leaves him. He gets drunk, dreaming back to the fiction of the Mars adventure and gets pulled into organized criminality. But as the muscle memory he has was based on made up circumstances, he gets himself killed in his first real world confrontation. As he lies there. Bleeding out from the gut in a smelly alleyway. He sees a last vision of the dream woman.

Nice

bump

Blood for the blood god.

Is this the point where I mention that I did work at Recall for a couple of months? It's a company that did OCR work for government institutions here in Sweden at the time... Probably the most boring work I ever had. I used to sing the jingle, "for the memories of a lifetime, Rekall, Rekall Rekaaaaall"... Noone knew what I was on about.

Pay no attention to this comment, it is written with the solely purpose of simulating engagement so your content is promoted by the platform.

Culture is most valuable commodity of human civilisation

Synthetic engagement

Is memory as a choice driven by capitalism really better than memory as belief or duty driven by nationalism?

There is an obvious dichotomy between map and territory. The modernist would say that the map doesn't include all of the territory. The postmodernist, on the other hand, would say that the territory cannot exist outside of the map.

The ideas presented in this video kill both human evolutionary drives, and the adventure, the experience of being human. Dehumanizing what little we have left. Commodification of human memory would lead to the most sterile, useless, weak and pathetic humans in history. People who never leave their homes, never climb a mountain or visit a pyramid; just lazy, boring and cowardly men and women who find lights refracted through glass to be their whole world.

@Sska29

7 ай бұрын

Just wait and watch. This is exactly what will happen eventually. The ultimate commodification of memories and the brain.

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This time I don't have wait to see how you, or rather mrs Lindsberg, butchered Total Recall

Ive seen this movie recently for the first time. It was fun but cheap looking

@jonasceikaCCK

Жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, it was one of the most expensive movies made in 1990