Top 6 | Budget Tube Combos | Part 2: Laney, VOX | Thomann

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Tube Combos under 400 bucks - what can you expect? Do they sound good enough despite the low headroom? Can you use them at home to practice without annoying your neighbours? Let's find out!Gear in the video: tho.mn/da7fr
Check out Parts 1&3 of this shootout:
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Interesting bits and pieces:
0:00 Laney Cub 10 | Talking
1:02 Laney Cub 10 | Playing | Clean, Humbucker, Bedroom Volume
1:51 Laney Cub 10 | Playing | SL Drive, Humbucker, Bedroom Volume
2:20 Laney Cub 10 | Playing | Dirty, Humbucker, Bedroom Volume
3:51 Laney Cub 10 | Playing | Dirty, Singlecoils, Bedroom Volume
4:51 Laney Cub 10 | Playing | Crunch, Reverb, Singlecoils, Bedroom Volume
5:40 Laney Cub 10 | Playing | Dirty, Singlecoils, Stage Volume
6:11 VOX AC4TV | Talking
7:12 VOX AC4TV | Playing | Singlecoils, Comparing Wattage Modes
8:31 VOX AC4TV | Playing | "Clean", Singlecoils, Bedroom Volume
9:12 VOX AC4TV | Playing | Dirty, Singlecoils, "Bedroom Volume"
9:48 VOX AC4TV | Playing | Dirty, Humbucker, Bedroom Volume
10:23 VOX AC4TV | Playing | Clean, Humbucker, Bedroom Volume
10:56 VOX AC4TV | Playing | Dirty, Humbucker, Stage Volume
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  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw62772 жыл бұрын

    FINALLY, someone who demos clean humbucker tones…

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert73477 ай бұрын

    Laney Cub series amps RULE

  • @hearpalhere
    @hearpalhere Жыл бұрын

    Really great review, loved that you discussed the pros and cons Kris! I'm seeing a used Cub 10 that I'm thinking of and this was just what I needed to see/hear. Thanks!

  • @williambock1821
    @williambock18213 жыл бұрын

    I love the cleans of the Laney and the overdrive of the vox. Wish they could be combined! I suppose it’d probably be pretty interesting to run them together.

  • @jimmyholloway8527
    @jimmyholloway85275 жыл бұрын

    Dude! I like the Decimeter over your shoulder. Lots of folks (reviewers & viewers) could learn from that! First time visitor.Liked & Subscribed!

  • @thewatcher611
    @thewatcher6115 жыл бұрын

    Laney just has the most full sound of all of these. I've played the blackstar, the vox, and the Laney. The Cub 10 is actually pretty awesome. I didn't realize that I like the Laney tone so much, but, you compare the tone quality with the rest, and it totally works. You should also check out the Laney IRTPulse Preamp. It's a tube preamp, USB interface, Re-amper, all in a pedal sized package that has the Laney sound.

  • @reddieseled
    @reddieseled Жыл бұрын

    I recently bought a used laney cub10 and it packs a seriously smooth clean punch and mild smooth distortion when you hit a bit harder. Dynamic id say. I wish I tried laney sooner as the sound signature is a blend of everything. I’ve had a couple of the AC4s and they sound quite edgy and honky. One thing to note about the laney is the build quality is superb with a full thick steel chassis, ply wood box and about 50 screws holding it all together!

  • @pesnevystek
    @pesnevystek7 жыл бұрын

    Also got Laney Cub10 inbuilt into TubeTown Lemberg Cabinet 112 AM case with 12inch Jensen C12Q. Sounds very good with HB...

  • @bendari
    @bendari6 жыл бұрын

    Cub 10 for sure is my FAV and I will get that one soon. Thanks for the demo!

  • @skeetschuler1859

    @skeetschuler1859

    5 жыл бұрын

    You won't be sorry. Have mine 4 years and it's my go to. LOUD

  • @Z-u-m-a
    @Z-u-m-a5 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done. The AC4TV is a shimmering angry little beast of an amp (have one), but yep has almost no properly clean headroom.

  • @caimin15221522
    @caimin152215227 жыл бұрын

    I got the cub 8 a few weeks back off Thomann. Absolutely love it. Sounds great as a studio/bedroom jamming amp, especially for €130 : )

  • @SylsMusicRoom

    @SylsMusicRoom

    6 жыл бұрын

    caimin15221522 good to know ! I hesitate to buy one for home practice and recording.

  • @Olegstuff21986

    @Olegstuff21986

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hm, isn't 5 W a bit too loud for home (apartment) use?

  • @caimin15221522

    @caimin15221522

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Olegstuff21986 I don't have it cranked all the time and it has a low output mode as well,

  • @moses1202

    @moses1202

    2 жыл бұрын

    So ac4c1 seems too loud for bedroom practice…

  • @YannGuillermou
    @YannGuillermou5 жыл бұрын

    Very useful info

  • @steveante1979
    @steveante19796 жыл бұрын

    How’s clean at 4W, 9-o’clock? Is it cleaner than same position at 1W?

  • @masoudb9126
    @masoudb91266 жыл бұрын

    Hallo Thomann, was würdest du mir als anfänger aber bisschen purist empfehlen? Vox ac40x oder Ac4 zurzeit habe keine Effect pedal oder so. danke

  • @thefilmandmusic
    @thefilmandmusic4 ай бұрын

    The Bughera is brilliant

  • @surfzion
    @surfzion7 жыл бұрын

    I've got the Laney 10. Love it.

  • @phenixreturns

    @phenixreturns

    4 жыл бұрын

    my fav is lc15

  • @GuitarsAndSynths
    @GuitarsAndSynths6 жыл бұрын

    Cool now I definitely want the Laney Cub since I already have a Vox and Marshall and like the balance between crunch and Fender like cleans.

  • @giordano0campisi
    @giordano0campisi7 жыл бұрын

    Blackstar way better to my ears! Nice comparison Kris, love it ;)

  • @Steven-zg5bq
    @Steven-zg5bq5 жыл бұрын

    the Vox blows!

  • @Olegstuff21986
    @Olegstuff219862 жыл бұрын

    The Laney Cub 10 is a 6 W amp though :). Otherwise, cool review of this amp and nice playing!

  • @reeb8587
    @reeb85876 жыл бұрын

    show some love for your revstar on the wall

  • @NOLNV1
    @NOLNV14 жыл бұрын

    Some of that crunch probably comes from the slim MFD single coils on G&L guitars being a bit dark and crunchy, almost like a P90, the bigger MFD's are a bit brighter but not as bright as a classic single coil. I think for true chime you should go with a classic Jazzmaster, neck on a strat, or just simply a Telecaster.

  • @erhnam

    @erhnam

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this is why I always wondered why my ASAT doesn't sound like a regular telecaster. It's dark and fatty like a P90 but with a twang. I always love the sound I get from it but it never gave me that classic telecaster bite. Thank you for this information.

  • @caseylm100
    @caseylm1004 жыл бұрын

    I like my laney 12R cub. for a tube 112 amp it is quite small and light. More so than a 112 marshall of fender. plus the 1 watt choice

  • @paudiaz4660
    @paudiaz46607 жыл бұрын

    That Laney sounds wonderfull imo

  • @officialWWM

    @officialWWM

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pau Díaz sounds like a bee in a jar!

  • @saludarturoascenciojimenez262

    @saludarturoascenciojimenez262

    6 жыл бұрын

    .hn:hhh:"

  • @grilledspaghetti

    @grilledspaghetti

    5 жыл бұрын

    I liked it clean, but not driven.

  • @grilledspaghetti

    @grilledspaghetti

    5 жыл бұрын

    Much better with single coils.

  • @eldrinpaulgok-ong3450

    @eldrinpaulgok-ong3450

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@grilledspaghetti I agree! I used to play an epiphone les paul through a laney cub. Just bought a pacifica and it sounds like that sound I always have in my head.

  • @RyanAmplification
    @RyanAmplification5 жыл бұрын

    I played a used cub 10 for the first time today. I started to fall in love with it... Then it cut out. It had an issue with the transformer. It was only 179 bucks and was way too loud for guitar center.

  • @9gloss

    @9gloss

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was possibly used mate, new amps don’t have this problem straight out the factory these are great little amps

  • @phenixreturns

    @phenixreturns

    4 жыл бұрын

    Marshall sl5 demo kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5h4x9GdpZiYYaw.html

  • @rullya11
    @rullya11 Жыл бұрын

    only amp? or + screamer?

  • @cubano100pct
    @cubano100pct7 жыл бұрын

    Can you demo Laney Cub-12R?

  • @philipTOMPSETT

    @philipTOMPSETT

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve got 2 and they are a great compromise. Sound good, good volume, light weight, takes pedals well and it’s compact. Not used my blues junior since.

  • @RaviLogan86

    @RaviLogan86

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@philipTOMPSETT really? I am in doubt between those 2.

  • @philipTOMPSETT

    @philipTOMPSETT

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RaviLogan86 I use the lanes for practice not gigging as it is light and easy to carry with other gear. The reverb on my blues junior has failed twice too. Depends what you are after but for half the price the laney is a bargain. The blues junior feels better quality albeit less reliable in my case. You need to try then really before deciding. Good luck.

  • @georgefromgreece4119

    @georgefromgreece4119

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@philipTOMPSETT I have a legend 1218 in my cub 12 that is heaven.

  • @ctcorncob7918
    @ctcorncob79186 жыл бұрын

    I'm torn between the Laney Cub 12R and the Fender Bassbreaker 007. They both sound really nice and I can get them for the same price. The only thing really pushing me towards the Laney is the build in reverb. Other than that, I'd like to hear some recommendations

  • @adambrown209

    @adambrown209

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bassbreaker!

  • @mattgilbert7347

    @mattgilbert7347

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which one did you end up getting? I have a Cub12r and a Bassbreaker15 and love 'em both - but the Laney is definitely more pedal-friendly. The 007 Bassbreaker (in demos, I don't have one) has some serious class to it. It sounds Tweed-ish :)

  • @mattgilbert7347

    @mattgilbert7347

    7 ай бұрын

    Bassbreaker amps have some serious technical build quality issues.

  • @alirhm2919
    @alirhm29194 жыл бұрын

    I have the vox ac4tv, its damn loud for appartment, even at 1/4 setting

  • @syamakhalder4646

    @syamakhalder4646

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nd I was thinking that the ac15 won't be enough for my bedroom 😂

  • @storm-3337

    @storm-3337

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@syamakhalder4646 it's definetely more than enough for me😂

  • @jamesbarrick3403
    @jamesbarrick34032 ай бұрын

    I like all of these amps. You did not include the best being a Supro. strange

  • @skeetschuler1859
    @skeetschuler18595 жыл бұрын

    I've had that Laney Cub 10 for 4 years and love it. LOUD

  • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses

    @ThomannsGuitarsBasses

    5 жыл бұрын

    It definitely can get loud! Which genre are you playing with it? //Simon

  • @skeetschuler1859

    @skeetschuler1859

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ThomannsGuitarsBasses All genres but rap.

  • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses

    @ThomannsGuitarsBasses

    5 жыл бұрын

    Argh, we expected you to play a Run DMC/Eminem Mashup

  • @TheTruth70777
    @TheTruth707774 жыл бұрын

    Does laney cub 10 have fx loop?

  • @AminaTabs

    @AminaTabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rasec Silecar no, it doesn’t

  • @JulioMacarena
    @JulioMacarena Жыл бұрын

    Don't bother buying a Laney Cub Super 12. I got sent a faulty one, which their own tech agreed was faulty. Retailer told me that they could not send a replacement because ALL CUB SUPERS HAD CABINET RATTLE and I SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO GIG OR RECORD WITH ONE. Laney supported this.

  • @mirko2481
    @mirko24817 жыл бұрын

    how those tube amps works? when you turn up the gain you have to turn down the volume if you are in a bedroom with volume isses?

  • @aixpert291

    @aixpert291

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mirko Burroni amps have two power sections; pre-amp tubes and power tubes. Pre-amp is the (mostly) gain section, where you use the gain knob to go from clean to dirty. The harder you drive the pre-amp tubes, the more distortion you get. The volume knob is for the power tubes.the more volume coming out of the pre-amp tubes, the harder it hits the power tubes (which can cause those to distort or clip as well, which is where that real tube amp sound comes from. So more gain = louder into power amp = more volume. That's why people talk about "headroom", to get loud enough to play with a band AND still be clean, without clipping either set of tubes, you either need tubes that are resistant to clipping, or a lot of power. I'm on mobile so i took some license for brevity. Hope this helps.

  • @mirko2481

    @mirko2481

    7 жыл бұрын

    aixpert291 thank you very much

  • @Arcade1959
    @Arcade19593 жыл бұрын

    I find that the Laney saturates less quickly than the Vox It could be used for Jazz.

  • @doomerius1300
    @doomerius13005 жыл бұрын

    I want to buy Laney Cub, but bigger one, that Cub 12. Because of effect loop. Great amp

  • @danielschafhautle1691

    @danielschafhautle1691

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dustin Balog year get it, i have the Club 12r (the one with the r has reverb) and im reale satisfied with it. however i is Quitte loud, in thats a Problem for you

  • @timk7508

    @timk7508

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dungeons and Dragons is it still loud in the

  • @kenvorland
    @kenvorland2 жыл бұрын

    Laney rules have one in the studio it kills

  • @sboistan
    @sboistan2 жыл бұрын

    Is the ac4tv the 8" or 10"??

  • @benallmark9671

    @benallmark9671

    Жыл бұрын

    12

  • @heitorkajioka

    @heitorkajioka

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a 10” theres an 8” version as well.

  • @jcripp7974
    @jcripp79745 жыл бұрын

    Vox sounds best so far part 1 and 2. Of course its preference

  • @DougHinVA

    @DougHinVA

    4 жыл бұрын

    Remove the rear case plate to let it open up and get a better speaker and a cheap reverb pedal...

  • @phenixreturns

    @phenixreturns

    4 жыл бұрын

    Marshall sl5 demo kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5h4x9GdpZiYYaw.html

  • @terrytrapp9662

    @terrytrapp9662

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DougHinVA did pretty much exactly that but got a 1x12 cab instead, made such a difference

  • @steveante1979
    @steveante19796 жыл бұрын

    For vox..

  • @georgefromgreece4119
    @georgefromgreece41192 жыл бұрын

    Here are my two cents: I have tried A LOT speakers in this amp, modern and originals. For clean jazz tone the legend L 1218 is the best I have tried so far in it. A 16 ohmed G12T75 modern takes out the low mids so makes it sound very sparkly and fendery- good if you want to. A vintage V30 that had a dense steely tone- good for slide guitar. Greenbacks sound very woody, but are not my top choice. G1265- similar to the stock HH 1265 in many ways, very nice. The best was an EVM12L, original, in a thiele cab. And the best overall was an Eminence 16 ohm Lady Luck- unbelievable speaker. So good it make me email Eminence to ask for similar contemporary speakers of them (lady lauck is an OEM Emily speaker) and they informed me that their currently produced equivalents are the CV 75/ 65, Reignmaker, Governor and Legend L1275recommended- and they are correct, you may go with any of these!!! From Celestions for this amp I recommend: Alnico blue, gold, cream, ruby. G12H anniversary- not the Heritage. Any Creamback, especially the H75. V type first, A type second. G1265/ T75. 70-80/ G12P80. From Eminence those I mentioned first plus the GA SC64 plus many others. From Jensen C12N, K2, P12. This amp packs a lot of punchiness, boominess and low mids due to circuit design and small enclosure so you may need to compensate for that with the speaker choices. It is a GREAT amp, totally recommended.

  • @fuglbird
    @fuglbird4 жыл бұрын

    85 dB(A) playing quiet for home use? At workplaces you have to wear ear protection at 85 dB(A). What are you thinking?

  • @Sheltada

    @Sheltada

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can also turn it down

  • @joeygarcia6647

    @joeygarcia6647

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kajak Kajak move out of your parents basement you can play loud as you want

  • @fuglbird

    @fuglbird

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joeygarcia6647 More people are hearing impaired from loud music than from noise on the workplace. In the workplace we can protect people. It is sad for young people to lose their hearing sense before they meet good music.

  • @joeygarcia6647

    @joeygarcia6647

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@fuglbird were in 2020 theres hearing aids and many other stuff to fix that

  • @neoaureus
    @neoaureus4 жыл бұрын

    Quiet and dirty ....87dB....cool eh?

  • @brunojacq5473
    @brunojacq54737 жыл бұрын

    The only Problem of the AC4TV is that it is extremely loud !

  • @phenixreturns

    @phenixreturns

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes impossible to play with in a bedroom

  • @zoransandorovmusic1794
    @zoransandorovmusic17946 жыл бұрын

    1:02 such a beautiful chord,,,,,,naaaaa! Although,the amp is great

  • @vinimedina91

    @vinimedina91

    4 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like the guitar is out of tune....

  • @seanthomasmusic
    @seanthomasmusic6 жыл бұрын

    So... did anybody like the bugera?

  • @elusivelyexclusive79

    @elusivelyexclusive79

    6 жыл бұрын

    me!

  • @HaraldEngels

    @HaraldEngels

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I have a Laney and Bugera, Both can be modded easily and offer great flexibility with a small form-factor.

  • @marrymemaddie
    @marrymemaddie7 жыл бұрын

    Vox ac4tv is loud. Don't be fooled by the watts.

  • @rabendranath

    @rabendranath

    7 жыл бұрын

    So true! I have both amps and the Cub 10 is more bedroom/apartment friendly than the Vox AC4TV, even at their lowest wattage. The AC4TV does great beefy tones right out of the box though, but it'll piss the neighbors off. The Cub 10 is a Fender-like amp, the best and most affordable tube cleans you are going to find at that price level.

  • @grantmichael4822

    @grantmichael4822

    6 жыл бұрын

    I got both the AC4 combo with 1x12 speaker and the AC4 head with matching 1x12 cabinet. Those things are loud and great sounding amp!

  • @GuitarsAndSynths

    @GuitarsAndSynths

    6 жыл бұрын

    correct even my tiny portable Vox g3 Mini amp has amazing sound and power for a small amp with only 3 watts power.

  • @phenixreturns

    @phenixreturns

    4 жыл бұрын

    not for a bedroom

  • @jimsy5530
    @jimsy55305 жыл бұрын

    I had the Vox, it's very boxy. Sold it, bought something ridiculous instead.

  • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses

    @ThomannsGuitarsBasses

    5 жыл бұрын

    What have you bought instead? //Cheers, Kris

  • @jimsy5530

    @jimsy5530

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ThomannsGuitarsBasses A second-hand Ampeg Reverberocket 2x12 reissue.

  • @neoaureus
    @neoaureus4 жыл бұрын

    Dear people... I have the Vox....into 2x12....you don't need anything else believe me....

  • @phenixreturns
    @phenixreturns5 жыл бұрын

    the Vox sounds loud : impossible for a bedroom

  • @terrytrapp9662

    @terrytrapp9662

    4 жыл бұрын

    The 4 watt setting is loud I can vouch for that

  • @pil00

    @pil00

    3 жыл бұрын

    even at 1/4 watt ?

  • @phenixreturns

    @phenixreturns

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pil00 this kind of amp is made for the crunch sound so, low watt : not interesting but there is the ac4 mini too

  • @phenixreturns
    @phenixreturns4 жыл бұрын

    THe VOX ca,n't be played in a bedroom = too loud

  • @joeygarcia6647
    @joeygarcia66474 жыл бұрын

    Have them both and for the guys whining about the dbs being to loud either move out your moms basement or get a new gf/wife that doesn’t care or just get rid of her all together 😂

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