Vox all the way for me too. Clear, great chime, no harsh, more natural and "open" overdrive.

I've had the Laney Cub 10 for 4 years, great amp workhorse.

Just a heads up to folks watching this video, the vid is 7 years old and Laney released a much better version called Cub *Super* 10, the overdrive sounds much better in the newer version of the Cub, it's one of my fav amps...the Box isn't bad either, but the new Cub has more warmth like this one does but with a more boutique-ish vibe and a great roaring OD....so check that version of the Cub out before you decide against Laney!!

I just bought both. I like how they both sound on my les Paul classic and fender strat ultra. Both good for carrying around and practice. Better then trying to carry around a Marshall plexy head and cab.

Thank you for this, man. I've been considering an AC15 vs. a Cub 12 and while these aren't the exact same, it gives me a general side-by-side guideline.

@davidgreenspoon9530

8 жыл бұрын

+Tariq Khan I understand the 12 and 10 are totally different tube sets, etc. A lot of the gearheads have a strong preference for the 10.

@richterfabro12

8 жыл бұрын

+David Greenspoon i have to agree with you. Tested cub 12 vs 10 and went home with the 10

@emreemre369

8 жыл бұрын

+Richter Fabro what made the difference for you?

Vox all the way (and I own, and like, a Laney....)

Definitely Laney very warm and great clean and dirty also a Nice good looking amp

I think the Laney Cub 12R could be the answer

sounds good and bright for both . . i think more for the ac4c1 . . how did you mic them?

Very good comparison and review of these useful little amps. Off this I got the box and am very pleased with it but you need pedals to get the best out of it.

@richterfabro12

9 жыл бұрын

tenodogblu Pedals works much much better on laney Cub 10 rather than the Vox for its Clean headroom. the vox has very little headroom

@tenodogblu

9 жыл бұрын

Thank you Rich, my buddy has a Laney and so can test out your advice, take care,

Both are great, IMHO, but not really comparable. The Laney is great in the way a Fender Champ is; you wouldn't want to play certain things through it, but then again, a good part of "Layla and other assorted" was recorded with a Champ. Like you summed up: boxy-vs-voxy lol!

I think the Laney Club blows the doors off the Vox, it sounds muddy and tinny compared to the Club. but the Laney Club 12 is a huge step up for a small fee, if you want to step up on the Vox your goung to be spending 2 to 3 times what the Laney cost

The Vox sounds brittle to my ears. It comes down to 6V6 vs EL84 output tubes. My ears love the creamy midrange of 6V6s, plus they're a tad louder, tube for tube, depending of course on the OT.

@RenoWeedLajos

5 жыл бұрын

i saw a newer video of 6 tube vintage amps review. both sounded warmer and much better. heon this video the sound is cold. except when he plays metal.. better check the other video.. there you can see how amazing all the tube vintage amps do sound.

@lassesuurmunne8340

4 жыл бұрын

That’s why I love Vox. I love that brittle chime and how they scream with more gain. Magical

what if you run them together?

yup bass in an amp is soooooo Kool. for persnell satisfaction

Great demo. I like both. I just got a Vox pf 10 solid state. I really liked, a lot of range, never fuzzy, clean also overdrive gently, that’s my setting right now. Balanced and great trebles and basses. I use very little the treble (1-2), still adjusting bass (2-3 now). So, I got treble in excess, maybe the Laney will work nice, also. I had to be pretty sure of what I looking for my tone before getting the valve real thing. I like the Vox live, I’m thinking about Orange since a like it (how overdrives) on videos (I got the little Vox ‘cos store hadn’t Crush 20), and my third option, also by videos is the Laney IRT Studio. Any suggestions? I don’t like Marshalls, I like Fender but not this time.

@richterfabro12

5 жыл бұрын

I think the best is try it out on your local music store. By videos just let you have the icing of the cake taste. Bring your guitar/pedals to try out how it behaves. Your ears are the best judge =)

Vox is awesome! I don't understand why people get so hung up on the bass? The only time bass is of any consideration when it comes to guitar amps - is for the home player. Now you may say - hey this is a 4 watt amplifier, what else is good for? But still, in general darker tones, bassier tones are for the home player that wishes to fill a wider spectrum. In the context of a band or in a recording mix - bass is absolutely useless, you will lost once you have a drummer and a bassist. It's just a fact of life, the kind of guitar tone that gets you heard in a band - may not what you like to hear jamming by yourself. So if you have a P.A. where you play - lack of bass is not an issue. The guy at the mixing board is going to remove all that low end stuff anyways - he will reserve it for the bassist and kick drum.

@voxpathfinder15r

7 жыл бұрын

Laney, isn't a bad little amp - I own the AC4, it's a great little amp.

@TheNicero870

7 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right.

@brianknickerbocker8518

7 жыл бұрын

Everyone likes what they like, if you like the way it sounds then it is perfect, After you buy it you will in my case always find something more perfect. upgrade junkie.

@JettyDeke

7 жыл бұрын

I'll have to agree but then too a guitar without low end is like a bass without top end.... Where the bass without top end lack definition, a guitar without low end lacks body and girth and will sound very thin and weak despite volume.

@voxpathfinder15r

6 жыл бұрын

A guitar needs mids, not bass. Look at the tubescreamer that guitarists use for leads - that things cuts off a bunch of bass and puts in a mid push.

I'm planning to buy the super cub 10, haven't tried it yet. Just not sure if it has good clean tones. Planning to buy my first tube amp for practice at home.

In my opinion, the AC4-BL Is the best sounding of all the Vox AC4 amps. With that said, there’s just something about Vox treble that I find very fatiguing of the ears. Ant time I play one, it doesn’t take long for that piercing treble to really start annoying me. I could never dial it out, it’s either there slightly more or less, or just too dark. I could never dial in the happy medium tone I was looking for. Now in 2019 however, Supro has came out with a great tube amp for home practice/Jams. The Supro Blues King 8. A fantastic little 1x8” combo that sounds HUGE for a 1 watt 8” combo. Check it out..... thanks for sharing this video, great job. Of the 2 I think the Laney is the winner. Again, just my humble opinion.

@davidcudlip6587

2 жыл бұрын

Use an EQ pedal. A must have on any pedal board. People spend a fortune changing speakers and tubes, when a $50 eq pedal might be the answer of dialing in the tone they want.

I was looking at both of these amps as I need something that doesn't piss off the neighbors, then I found the Palmer Fab 5 which blows these Asian made amps out of the water. Same price class but the build quality (made in Germany) and tone was far, far superior. But as always, ask 5 guitar players get 6 answers. Everything is subjective to personal taste.

what mic(s) and how far? . . did you change the tubes?

I was looking at the laney 12 r and the fender super hamp

Both fantastic amps but very different sounding, vox is chimier, laney tighter and growls more, i paid 100 us for the laney used, best amp purchase i made

There's been three times when I came across a Vox AC4-BL at a reasonable price and walked away every time. Still kicking myself.

Laney sound so much better to me. There's a nasty boxy scoop with the vox

Laney Cub 12R is the answer.

@hugomejia7810

6 жыл бұрын

eljefeguapobarbon yes it is it's true

I'm impressed with the ac4c1 with the 10" speaker. Often amps with that little wattage aren't that great although some are. I've played vintage tweed Champs and didn't care for them, but the blackface and sf versions are very good.

@jasondorsey7110

Жыл бұрын

Low wattage amps through large extension cabs are awesome, I run a '74 champ through a 2x12 and it blows my blues jr. and ac10 out of the water as far as pure tone goes

@Sparky6string

Жыл бұрын

@@jasondorsey7110 Do you have the cab at 4 ohms? That would be nice.

@jasondorsey7110

Жыл бұрын

@@Sparky6string yea, 2 8ohm celestions wired in parallel

@Sparky6string

Жыл бұрын

@@jasondorsey7110 GB128s?

@jasondorsey7110

Жыл бұрын

@@Sparky6string g12h-80s for some chime

the Laney to me sounds more like a real amp much rounder sound but not as good overdrive as the vox

@topherrrr92

6 жыл бұрын

Computer Simulated Atomic Coded Reality the Cub10 doesn’t have a powerful drive - it is mostly a clean amp. It can emulate American tones very well with its 6v6 tubes. If you want a very good all-around amp that can give you those glassy cleans and as well as that warm, creamy tube drive then the Laney Cub12/Cub12R is the answer.

ac4 c1-12 or a Cub 12R whit creenback both used for the same price. wich one showl i pick? ;'3 already hasve a 80's JC120

Neither sound very good to me, actually. I wonder if it's something in how they were recorded.

the best overdriven tone obtained with the vox isn't by turning up the gain knob bro', try the gain between 11 and 1 o clock and master at least at 1 o clock too.

The Laney jumped out with more mid range.

i have a cub 10 ..like the sound alot it has a very noise buzz that no one seems to be able to fix..any ideas..You cub seems quiet

@topherrrr92

6 жыл бұрын

greg malcolm if you’re playing it with single coil pickups it will buzz quite a bit.

Laney wins Over the vox

In this case Laney wins, great balance bass treeble full valve an a 1x12 Celestion Grand Speaker l love it

@Tariq Khan Cub12 has character of an all tube Marshall, but cub 10 has character of BJ. This is a good comparison shows how Vox lacks bass and chime but Laney is really balanced.

@richterfabro12

9 жыл бұрын

Yes i have to agree. The cub10 when it is played real loud.. the sound is huge from this small box

@sumtafa5375

9 жыл бұрын

Richter Fabro You should check Fender superchamp XD or X2. I have a XD it is also really impressive.

@SohamBhattacharya3105

9 жыл бұрын

***** I have the CUB 10 as well as a green board Fender BJ. They really are not similar at all. The CUB 10 is more like a low gain Fender tweed. And with some new tubes and an Eminence Legend in it, it's a GREAT sounding amp. The BJ has always a decent amp but after getting the CUB I rarely play it. The BJ has this midrange thing going on which really gets to me after a point. Oh and the CUB 10 puts out 12W RMS (not 10 as most people believe) and with an efficient speaker like the Legend 1058 it can be as loud as the BJ. In fact, because of it's tone stack, I've found the CUB to have more clean headroom than the BJ.

@sumtafa5375

9 жыл бұрын

Soham Bhattacharya I agree, of course they are different but Vox is a different kind of monster and it is not for my taste.

@SohamBhattacharya3105

9 жыл бұрын

***** I was only comparing the CUB 10 and the Fender Blues Junior. I've never played the VOX AC4. Sounds quite nice here though. I would be very interested to here the VOX and CUB in stereo.

vox in a box, love it

What is the speaker in the Laney? Celestion tube 10 or HH?

@richterfabro12

8 жыл бұрын

All stock. U may check on their website. Cheers

@davidgreenspoon9530

8 жыл бұрын

+Ligtez It used to be a Celestion (mine is) but now it is the HH, according to the Laney website. BTW, the lo input offers a huge amount of headroom.

@Ligtez

8 жыл бұрын

+David Greenspoon Exactly! I bought a Cub10 a few weeks (with HH like you say) and it is a fantastic amp. I am a very happy person now! :-D

What guitar are you using?

@richterfabro12

8 жыл бұрын

Fender AVRI thinline 69

I am not a fan of vox. they just don't handle overdrive will. if you love bright and clean great. soon as you hit the pedal its ice picky. fender gives you bright tones but handles pedals bette imho

Which is the best for 70's Crunch riffs ?

@ramonepoo5290

4 жыл бұрын

I was playing some 70s metal stuff with ac4c1

Hi bro, tanong ko lang, ano mas ok kung gagamitan ng pedals (od, dist), hanap kasi ako ng may tube na amp, dami kong choices as of now like the Vox AV15, Vox Vt40x, Orange Micro Terror, Ac4cl bl and Cub 10. salamat

you should get a commission from vox - you just sold me one !! lol

@coubiakb

7 жыл бұрын

there's no mistake in term of tone

@martijnvandenakker803

7 жыл бұрын

VirtualLife Laney = boxy, Vox = Voxy...

does higher wattage make the speaker louder?

@user-lx3dn9bt9e

3 жыл бұрын

If the speaker is capable of delivering the higher wattage too - yes. Lets say the speaker is marked 30w, 15watt amp will be louder than 1 watt through it. But not like 15 times louder. 2-2,5 times louder

Vox ✌️🎶

Definitely Laney.

Why pay for fender twin reverb Laney has exact sound i tested them both vox good for rocker sound laney more warmer!!

@petelebu

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry I love the twin but the laney sounds much more than a princeton, but it does sound like a great fender

Both sound good IMO. Pick your poison.

Nothing is impossible

Vox > Laney

They both sound great yes the Vox is slightly better as it should be its more money and has a better speaker, if you put a eminence or celestion speaker in the Laney it would scream then you are at about the same money. Thinline sounds great is that mahogany or ash body ? Sounds good take care. Oh the stage right 5 or 15 w/ reverb all valve amp is insane and less $$ than both these !

vox win

The Laney 10 is a better amp then the 12

@topherrrr92

6 жыл бұрын

Debatable.

@egSmith-sp9gl

6 жыл бұрын

The 10 has 2 6v6 output tube and the 12 has el84 . I like the 10 better , I play it in two 1 12" "lady luck " cabinets

@carlosclaptrix

6 жыл бұрын

I tried both at Thomann's and I agree.

@hanjeongyeop

4 жыл бұрын

Agree

mic looks off axis 2 ft ish away ish for both-still a bite to both!

The vox sounds voxy.

I think they both sound very tinny. Not impressed with either.

@arbitermatt

8 жыл бұрын

+Boltjolt They're small, low wattage amplifiers recorded with a camcorder mic. What were you expecting?

@Rayzaa101

8 жыл бұрын

+arbitermatt i guess a better comparison? Not knocking anything. I've just seen some good sounding recordings and didn't know how this was recorded. I'll try to find another one that sounds better.

@richterfabro12

8 жыл бұрын

+Boltjolt hey buddy, i used my old iphone 4 to record this. Just to let u hear what a naked ears will be hearing. Again, compression and mic clipping is definetely present. If u asked me what i'll go with the Laney Cub 10

El Vox! suena mejor y es valvular

are you presenting the comparison for yourself or the viewers? how can the viewers know whats the real difference if your camera is nearer to the vox? next time get a mic for both.