Top 5 BEGINNER Tips for SUPPORT in Pathfinder 2e!
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Pathfinder 2e is a deep game, and nobody wants to get stuck playing "the heal bot" in a fascinating game like this! Luckily, the game is designed in such a way that even a Support character can do SO MUCH in a session! Let's talk about some tips to get the most out of your support characters!
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I play support role in so many video games and ttrpgs and craft saying "Remember artillery is type of support"
@nicolasvillasecaali7662
18 күн бұрын
If you aid the cause of removing the menace so it's no longer standing to harm your allies, then you are supporting, any in-between like healing to help achieve that goal is crisis management.
@danielv4793
18 күн бұрын
A wise man one say: "The dead is best status effects, they can harm your allies" That wise man was a Barbarian with +3 in Wisdom
@gabrielrognon6238
18 күн бұрын
I had a magic card with a context text along the line of "I can sometime prevent more hurt with one arrow than I could heal with one life."
@michaelpaul5438
18 күн бұрын
D'Avenant Healer. "One arrow keenly fired might prevent more battlefield wounds than I could treat."@@gabrielrognon6238
Remember, Treat wounds let you continue treatment for an entire hour to double the amount. If you got the time its not 2d8 per hour. its technically 6d8 within a 70 minutes period There have been times when i've decided to not use continual recovery and instead do that 1 hour treatment because the initial one was a crit.
@bjwessels
18 күн бұрын
I completely forgot that was a thing!
@notalkmeimangyy
18 күн бұрын
it's important to note that it's double the amount of hitpoints healed, not double the dice! that means performing treat wounds for an hour at higher ranks also doubles those bonuses to healing. combine this with risky surgery to guarantee crit success on a success and assurance if your dm lets you use it with risky surgery, and at trained you can get 4d8 DOUBLED for a range of 8-64 healing automatically, with an extra +20, +60 and +100 at higher dcs! this doesn't even consider mortal and godless healing, ward medic, forensic investigator's bonus healing, medic dedication... having someone with medicine on hand can trivialize healing between encounters and even without an hour to spare, you could get your party to working condition on risky surgery and ward medic alone with some solid rolls!
Hey Nonat1s I wanted to thank you, i'm a new player who will be having session 1 this week for my first game of pathfinder. Not just this video but all of your videos have helped me to really iron out my sheet and prepare for a really exciting experience. The thing is you only get one FIRST pathfinder game, and while i couldn't talk to you personally I'm really excited with what you were able to share with me. Thank you so much for all of your help. your videos are concise, real, and very entertaining. You don't need memes or cut in gags to sell yourself and you're honest and upfront. I really like that.
@danrimo826
10 күн бұрын
You are so right - we only get one first game. Hope yours went well!
As far as Treat Wounds goes, do not forget about Ward Medic. You can treat between 2 and 8 targets in a single use of Tread Wounds depending on your skill level for Medicine.
Bit of an additional tip. Most casters top out at Expert weapon proficiency, while your Athletics skill can be as high as Legendary. If you have some skill increases to spare consider putting them into Athletics. It's a little unorthodox, but if you're stuck in melee a trip or disarm attack might be more effective than a weapon attack. Plus it'll probably be a greater help to your allies than any damage a noodle armed wizard with a stick could muster.
until next time unclear. I now sweat profusely when I roll a 1.
what i love with Pathfinder 2e is that nearly all classes have support potential
@senritsujumpsuit6021
18 күн бұрын
you can make a character so far in either direction if you try hard enough like I made a Monk just use a two handed weapon while just using Monkness to replace heavy armor with fuk you am a mountain made of iron face me XD
Life oracle of Pharasma here. Tip #5 is something my character abided by to a T. As I learned in FFXIV, sometimes the best way to heal is to do damage. The enemy will be alive for a shorter amount of time, which means less damage is dealt by them. ^_^ But I digress. My oracle always had a bunch of spells that did cold damage (flavor thing some of the time for being a frozen wind kitsune). But she would also go feral once in a while when her wife was attacked, and she'd use a scythe to attack the poor enemy :D
@cyricmoonblade
18 күн бұрын
Wooot also a Life Oracle of Pharsma! We did free dedication so also celestial sorcerer with a elf changling heritage, not even a broken combo but soooo much healing. But also specialized at finalizing undead as one should!
7:35 Grapple. If he's prone, it's insane. And it doesn't have limit on use basically.
@chrizzlybear5565
18 күн бұрын
Demoralize works at range, doesn't require a free hand, doesn't have the Attack trait, and is one of the few things that debuff attacks, AC, and saves at the same time. If it weren't for the 1 / enemy limit, it *would* definitely be the strongest skill action. Given the limit, I'd say it's equally strong to Grapple and Trip, which are both really strong.
@FirstLast-wk3kc
18 күн бұрын
@@chrizzlybear5565 now that's more like it! This rating is more accurate, I'd say
Tip #6 in the spirit of tip #5: The best healing is healing that you don't need to do. If you can buff your allies' AC, enable them to move away from the enemy or move the enemy away from them, or find other ways to make enemies waste actions, that can often be more effective - not because healing is weak, it's quite strong, actually - but your allies are more free to do the things they're good at when they're not about to die. Since healing is reactive (allies need to take damage first, you heal them afterwards), doing something proactive instead is often safer and more freeing.
@BlueTressym
14 күн бұрын
Absolutely; prevention is better than cure. ETA even when curing is actually worth doing, such as in this system.
Great tips! Especially the one about thinking how to use your first action, instead of your third. Demoralize, faint, maneuver, recall, seek, move whatever FIRST, and THEN attack, even twice if you can/want
I deeply empathies with you about the heat. I am in Texas and yesterday my workroom got up to 92°F and I had to take a break because it was going to become unsafe to continue working with a blade. (And it has been a little cooler than normal this last week) Stay safe, stay hydrated. On the content of your video, this all sounds really fun. You really make Pathfinder sound like it could be fun if I found the right group to be a player in.
And never forget, support =/= healing, or at least not always.
Tip 5: There's an even better status to inflict on the enemy than "Frightened," and that is "Dead."
I live in oregon I hear you!
Addition to #5: Sometimes the best way to heal an ally is to remove the thing that is hurting that ally in the first place.
A League of Legends Graves main once said "Death is the best crowd control."
@chrizzlybear5565
18 күн бұрын
I'll add "Almost dead is no crowd control at all" to make it valuable tactical advice.
This is one of your best videos in my opinion when it comes to subject.
Super useful info! My favorite rule when gaming.... Rules are a guideline, just have fun.
Don't forget, immunity to Treat Wounds does NOT mean immunity to Battle Medicine -- those are tracked separately. It's therefore possible to use Treat Wounds and then immediately use Battle Medicine on the same target, provided that you haven't used Battle Medicine on them that day.
Having moved from Alaska to Oregon in midwinter… I feel you when it comes to the PNW heat. Hang in there, buddy.
@3_14pie
18 күн бұрын
what? how? there's no way the northwest of the usa is hot by any reasonable human metric, the place is above 40°N, isn't it?
@Brusir
17 күн бұрын
@@3_14pie Heat dome, baby! 2nd one in a few years. I am above 40°N. Consistently over 100° day after day. Today is the last day of 100 in my city, but it stays in the 90s for several days after today. Fun fun fun!
A good overall tip for buffing and debuffing bonuses/penalties that only last until the end of a character's turn - don't do it if they're next in initiative! Delay, let them go, then do your thing. This means they'll have the benefit/penalty for a good long while.
very solid simple guide! i missed your pf2e content glad to see you back
To Tip #5: You are a support. You want to inflict positive statuses on your friends and negatives on your enemies; and the best status to apply to an Enemy is Dead
I feel like having healing on every party member is the optimal way to play this game. Characters with a free hand should get Battle Medicine. Focus spells are amazing as they scale with level and can be gotten on every character relatively easy. On a Fighter I would get both Paladin + Psychic dedication with free archetype to get 3 focus points (Lay on Hands) on level 6 + Retributive Strike. Yes it will cost some class feats but it seems worth it.
Came for a guide, stayed to make sure you drink enough water.
I never understand why no one takes Raging Intimidation. It's awesome.
It's funny watching you suffering from the heat but still getting worked up and animated about awesome things in the game. In SoT I have a conrasu phytokineticist and he does awesome support. The kineticist healing abilities heal less damage than most, but they are once per person per 10 minutes. I give out a healing fruit and a dash of herbs to everybody, then I do treat wounds on up to four people (if needed), and at the end I can give out more fruit and herbs. Our groups also tend to have many characters dip a little into support. Like taking Blessed One as an archetype for Lay on Hands. Or getting battle medicine because sometimes your main support goes down.
5:12 oh hey my plushie
I also really miss just being around a table with friends
Bards are absolutely fun to support with. Casting a buffing song only costs an action, so I'm always free to cast an offensive spell in the same turn.
Thanks for the content!
A note about Treat Wounds. If one of your party members has Continual Recovery, but several people has medicine proficiency, if someone that does *not* have the Continual Recovery feat uses Treat Wounds, the patient becomes immune to *ALL* Treat Wound actions for 1 hour. Even if you have Continual Recovery, you cannot keep bandaging them. I hate how this makes it so you practically *HAVE TO* have one character in the party chose both Continual Recovery and Ward Medic skill feats😮💨
@JacksonOwex
18 күн бұрын
Not sure where you get that you HAVE to have those feats or why it's a problem in your group. Sounds like your group should have planned characters better so there wasn't overlap with Treat Wounds!
@TheGeezorbee
18 күн бұрын
@@JacksonOwex The system makes it practically a prerequisite, is what I mean. That and the fact you cannot share the burden between party members due to the immunity being shared with the action itself.
I keep meaning to do a video on this, but never get around to it - focus spells have to be the most underused aspect of the game. A lot of people only pull them out as a last resort, even though you should be able to use them every encounter.
Just remember. We can't see anything from chest down. No need to wear pants just like when Teleworking
Oh no attack of the baby face. Those poor face whiskers taken in their prime
0:01 Ah! Who are you and what did you do with our boi?!
Yeah this heat we are having up here sucks.... Stay cool, Nonat, stay cool.
Draconic Barrage can be cool as a focus spell, just hope your dice don't spite you with the same dice roll for the flitting dragons.
This heatwave is godawful. Stay hydrated and get a heatpump!
I have built some the dumbest character builds for a GM to deal with one of them just makes everyone clumsy all the time and another one makes everyone so sick they may as well just end themselves sooner life is suffering conditions are bull an I love them
Fortissimo Courageous Anthem is hilarious
See you left the North East and the hot weather was all, "YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME!" Stay cool 😁
Stay safe, stay cool!
So anyways water kineticist has topping off healing water (don’t overheal) once per 10 minutes per target at level 1.
Now please make video about good "supporter" spells.
I gave the Like button a +1 status bonus. Somehow it seems to stack, though. Report bug to YT?!
the cereal remains
About difficulty, I disagree. Not everyone needs to make a perfect build, but Pathfinder is hard. It's important that people know the rules and make a good build so they can enjoy it more. Extreme encounters are very hard, even Severe ones can be really dangerous. I've been playing Kingmaker recently, in the first fight of the campaign the barbarian went down and the ranger almost was KOed. That was just the first fight. We had something like 3 more encounters after that in the same adventuring day. A DM can make an easier game for beginners, but beginners playing Kingmaker are going to struggle. If we didn"t have medicine, it would have been a TPK.
Goodberry or now Cornicopia is a focus spell, but having to spend 2 actions to cast it and another action to feed someone is very taxing on action economy
Do you ever plan on making lore videos? I remember you mentioning you might in one of your previous videos.
@Nonat1s
18 күн бұрын
I made one last year and it sadly didn't perform very well. I couldn't justify the effort I had to put into lore videos, sadly.
@JacksonOwex
18 күн бұрын
There's also a few other channels that do lore videos. I forget them at the moment but they shouldn't be too hard to find, especially once you start watching one of them regularly. A couple I found going through my subs quickly are MythKeeper and Podfinder. I may not be subbed to some of the others I have watched but I know there are at least a couple more.
I would not have recognized you. You look like a Hollander in my opinion (Holland).
hi Nonat I'm new here and also really new to the game of D&D and Pathfinder I have a big question I have super stage fright and I wonder how do you deal with stage fright and anxiety in D&D and Pathfinder
@Nonat1s
18 күн бұрын
Just remember that you're there to have fun with your friends! It's just a game, not Critical Role! And doing voices and acting is TOTALLY optional! If you're not comfortable acting in front of your friends, you don't have to! You can just describe your character's actions!
@toportime
18 күн бұрын
@@Nonat1s That is so under rated.
@legendarydigitize2523
18 күн бұрын
@@Nonat1s Honestly This is so true I especially have hammy(yet very competent statwise) characters i would play and act as For the sake of my own kind of fun on the table and thankfully fellow players and gm are fine with it
@carriestovall8687
18 күн бұрын
@@Nonat1s well my first full actual play of Pathfinder went off without a hitch of course I meta played a little bit since I wasn't really confident in what I was doing and the others didn't mind it they actually had fun with it to be honest thanks for the helpful info Nat!
Wow okay I’m clearly not the target audience for this I knew all of this.
@JacksonOwex
18 күн бұрын
Well, it DOES say "Beginner Tips" in the title!
@Solrex_the_Sun_King
17 күн бұрын
Here I am watching it since I'm subscribed, yep, knew that, knew that, knew that, k there's nothing new here. Maybe video should be titled something like "A guide for 5e players starting out PF2E."
Why dont you have the fan on?
What is that not on your face!
Assurance is also GREAT for Medicine. Hell, it's GREAT for pretty much EVERY skill!!!
well how hot can it really be? it's the nw of the usa lol
It is hot? Then an important, very disliked, tipp: do NOT drink or eat cold stuff but warm/hot stuff. Cold means, it is likely ending up below body temperature in your stomach which alarms the rest of the body: it is cold, raise the temperature! So in the long run, you worsen your situation with that ice water...
@JacksonOwex
18 күн бұрын
I don't know that it has to be warm/hot, just not "ice cold".
How do you decide what information to include at the beginning of a video to keep viewers interested? 🍓🌺
@TeutonicViking
19 күн бұрын
Go away bot.
Enjoying our lovely triple digit temperatures I take it?