Top 2 Beta DPS Specs Nerfed | The War Within Balance Tuning

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The War Within Beta: July 3rd Balance Tuning Changes
Many buffs and QoL improvements to Specs with some sprinkling in of...nerfs
00:00 Unholy & Frost DK
03:50 Balance Druid
07:12 Hunter
08:07 Arcane Mage
11:02 Mage, Ret Aura, Voidweaver
12:39 Demonology Warlock
16:57 Fury Warrior, Goodbye!
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  • @TheMiddleAgedKidVideos
    @TheMiddleAgedKidVideos16 күн бұрын

    So why are simpler rotations always bad? Does every spec need to require twitchy fingers and be mega-complicated?

  • @bonfied43

    @bonfied43

    16 күн бұрын

    Cause pressing 1-2-1-2-3 over and over is boring and allows bad players to have their performance inflated, thus making everyone else's experience worse. That and it's not fun to play

  • @ekmettin

    @ekmettin

    16 күн бұрын

    @@bonfied43sounds like your self worth is tied to your parses lol. I dont like basic specs but there is nothing wrong with different rotations different kind of players.

  • @bonfied43

    @bonfied43

    16 күн бұрын

    @ekmettin I agree that different rotations are important. 100%. I also think people like the game differently. Some super comp, some causal. Nothing wrong with either.

  • @yourDaddyStudmuffin

    @yourDaddyStudmuffin

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@bonfied43 what i read here is a player who forget about mechanics

  • @CB38096

    @CB38096

    16 күн бұрын

    I mean BM was a top 3 dps for like all of season 3 and it’s probably the simplest dps rotation so I think certain classes just have their moment to shine every couple of seasons

  • @allakatter931
    @allakatter93116 күн бұрын

    As others have pointed out, but it bears repeating, Fury was not buffed, it was nerfed.

  • @baris9444
    @baris944416 күн бұрын

    Fury is nerf not buff you missed the point , fury was op on m+ last build they nerfed odyns fury and bloodthirst variants. Probably its a huge nerf considering how well it synced with slayer maybe even rip slayer

  • @jean-francoismurphy293

    @jean-francoismurphy293

    16 күн бұрын

    But rampage buff

  • @Shaneie
    @Shaneie16 күн бұрын

    Thank you for your video

  • @TheUberRepostChannel
    @TheUberRepostChannel16 күн бұрын

    Fury did not get buffed. Fury got a RB and rampage buff as a compensation for the nerfs to bloodthirst and odyn's fury, which were warranted considering that they were doing absurd damage on the beta. Notably, bloodthirst actually got triple nerfed. It's damage was nerfed, a talent got nerfed, and a bug was fixed on that same talent that was causing it to do more damage than intended. The nerfs to bloodthirst add up to being very heavy handed, possibly too heavy handed, as the developers attempt to reel back the countless number of bloodthirst buffs they've given over the course of dragon flight in an effort to get fury to have a reason to incorporate bloodthirst into the rotation alongside raging blow. We'll see just how impactful these nerfs are on our overall damage, as the compensation buffs seem rather soft by comparison.

  • @marcellszabo4000

    @marcellszabo4000

    16 күн бұрын

    tbf that 15% odyns fury nerf didnt do much coz OF is still crazy dmg

  • @jamesruggiero757
    @jamesruggiero75716 күн бұрын

    Balance Druid needs a serious reqork. The eclipse system just sucks, there's no other way to put it. Having to do two casts to get into that and you need to multi-dot before you even get to your fillers is a chore. Even single target its two fillers and two to 3 dots before you even cast a spender, and you will be refreshing those forever. I'd like them to drop ecplise all together... just make it our big cooldown but give us our mastery without it. It's ot that we can't maintain those, its that they are boring and tedious. Instead give us something to proc and respond to, something exciting especially with the loss of Pulsar. At thsi point I am switching to mage if things don't change ... and I have almost 20 years of crit chicken under my belt.

  • @guy17697
    @guy1769716 күн бұрын

    Shadow invocation has been a staple in AoE for 2 seasons now. def not an ignored talent.

  • @Jevantai420
    @Jevantai42016 күн бұрын

    “The O.P.ness…” good one 8:08

  • @vikingr3612
    @vikingr361216 күн бұрын

    Why do i feel always a Little Hate against warriors Mister izen?

  • @Daimyo-
    @Daimyo-16 күн бұрын

    Arcane wasn't nerfed really (like Izen said), the talent shuffle made things more accessible and missiles dmg went up by a lot (not only the 20% increase but buff and bug fix on the attunement)

  • @bravos2709

    @bravos2709

    16 күн бұрын

    Dude, chronoshift was absolute main for PvP, as much as for pve is more less ok but for PvP is killer, massive mobility nerf...

  • @Daimyo-

    @Daimyo-

    16 күн бұрын

    @@bravos2709 maybe they'll still add it as a pvp talent. put a suggestion for them.

  • @Zikkar

    @Zikkar

    16 күн бұрын

    Arcane is still way too over tuned

  • @user-tw1dt4no7f

    @user-tw1dt4no7f

    16 күн бұрын

    I literally logged off my arcane when i read this yesterday. always catering pve and spitting on pvp players.

  • @tiagopassarela
    @tiagopassarela15 күн бұрын

    As a main warlock demo player I say that shadow evocation is working as intended with soul harvester

  • @Brutus-2099
    @Brutus-209916 күн бұрын

    Both San’layn and Rider have game breaking bugs for example SL giving 147% haste and riders not casting abilities correctly. The tuning should not have occurred for DK until these bugs had been fixed to get a true indication of what the spec is doing!

  • @Blood_Ronin

    @Blood_Ronin

    16 күн бұрын

    This 100%

  • @TheJoeGizzle
    @TheJoeGizzle16 күн бұрын

    Bring back Chronoshift for Arcane Mage.

  • @kalasmournrex1470
    @kalasmournrex147016 күн бұрын

    San’layn is completely ruined for blood. Silly choice. Deathbringer was already way better for blood. The healing nerf on vamp strike just… weird.

  • @madsboandersen5316
    @madsboandersen531616 күн бұрын

    Implosion Trap has a toolkit that states it exploes. That's simply contradicting!

  • @fel385
    @fel38516 күн бұрын

    losing chrono shift sucks, actually

  • @liamdavies2823
    @liamdavies282316 күн бұрын

    Arcane was nerfed in numbers yes but the talent tree changes definitely compensate. In terms of DPS it will probably be the best mage spec in season 1. It will be the raid spec, I don’t know if it will compete with fire in m+ because it lacks the cheat :(

  • @aroshley4348

    @aroshley4348

    16 күн бұрын

    I hope sm that arcane is best mage spec for raid in s1 I had to convinced my whole mythic raid to play arcane instead of fire… And ig it blows up in TWW, im in heaven

  • @yegor6763
    @yegor676316 күн бұрын

    No fun allowed!

  • @user-tw1dt4no7f
    @user-tw1dt4no7f16 күн бұрын

    u must not arcane mage? Chrono shift loss is big.

  • @alexanderfrost1336
    @alexanderfrost133614 күн бұрын

    Did he just skip over "arcane splinter damage reduced by 3%" when he talked about arcane nerfs

  • @Blood_Ronin
    @Blood_Ronin16 күн бұрын

    Shattered frost is doing incredible damage. You didnt even take artic assault which is hannds down the best talent frost has...

  • @3d1m4nd3r
    @3d1m4nd3r16 күн бұрын

    IN EU dungeon finder doesnt work. As an healer i was wating 1,5h to join and it kicked me out form queue (normal) for random hero you cant queue at all.

  • @midgardens8938
    @midgardens893816 күн бұрын

    warlocks seem fine no changes needed

  • @mr.chronoh.9407
    @mr.chronoh.940715 күн бұрын

    Sad there is no changes on rogue 😢

  • @Avatinfernus
    @Avatinfernus16 күн бұрын

    Tuning? As a rogue I'm not sure what this means!

  • @Frawt

    @Frawt

    16 күн бұрын

    We just got like 15% aura buffs a week ago or whatever. Don't be schizo.

  • @schmooplesthesecond5997

    @schmooplesthesecond5997

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Frawt what aura buff?

  • @sadra9252

    @sadra9252

    9 күн бұрын

    You rogues just can't get enough can you? At least one spec of rogue has been on the meta for the last 4 years while many other classes weren't for even 1 season. I think it's time for the rogue class to go down for a while

  • @Shinio69
    @Shinio6916 күн бұрын

    Fuck i hate Breath of Sindragosa with burning passion. I would love to play FDK if not for the fact it will be top talent to pick for first season.

  • @chaoshunting5659

    @chaoshunting5659

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Shinio69 all FDK have been saying this for a while and they just double down on it.

  • @schmooplesthesecond5997

    @schmooplesthesecond5997

    16 күн бұрын

    i dont understand why people dont like it

  • @Shinio69

    @Shinio69

    15 күн бұрын

    @@schmooplesthesecond5997 Long build up, you need all your CDs when breath is up, 2 min CD, and if you fail at something or you need to deal with mechanic you lose whole breath coz you can't pause it or anything. There is too much to deal with for not that much more dps compared to Obliteration build.

  • @Maximo-Maximus
    @Maximo-Maximus16 күн бұрын

    Warrior is slightly above average = insta nerf

  • @schmooplesthesecond5997

    @schmooplesthesecond5997

    16 күн бұрын

    warrior is forever average

  • @sadra9252

    @sadra9252

    9 күн бұрын

    Facts

  • @MrSemic6193
    @MrSemic619316 күн бұрын

    for pala ret they need make a change between crusade and devotion talent or just remove crusade from ret pala and put again ret aura simple..plu ther nerf ret got so far

  • @Macrossprime
    @Macrossprime15 күн бұрын

    Dont tell me chrono shift being removed is good. Good f'n luck pvping as arcane mage without it.

  • @jako997
    @jako99716 күн бұрын

    Unholy DK nerfs were warranted and so war Arcane but i feel like they will still Pump lmao.

  • @slywook_one
    @slywook_one16 күн бұрын

    Now it's time to rogue reworks no? 😊

  • @lcelestiall142
    @lcelestiall14216 күн бұрын

    bro is tripping, demo locks have used shadow invocation for the passed 2 seasons, and its a good % of your damage too, its also mostly shared fate proccing bombers

  • @bravos2709
    @bravos270916 күн бұрын

    Dude, what are you smoking, removing Crackling energy, chronoshift is good? crackling energy was giving y 20% increased damage for blast, additionally they are nerfing it further by 10 %, minus 30% is good thing for ya? Chronoshift may seems boring for PvE but its absolutely mandatory for PvP, mage def is made from cardboard, need to avoid damage as its essential, its killing nerf dude..... arcane was finally fun to play so Blizz thought: ok, y guys had your fan, time to kill spec.....

  • @autumnsphere7581

    @autumnsphere7581

    16 күн бұрын

    I like the new talent tree but i agree. Chrono shift feels so good, i pick it all the time in pve and pvp

  • @chaoshunting5659
    @chaoshunting565916 күн бұрын

    frost dk has to be the most boring class going into tww. maybe one day the devs will actually listen and rework the fucking spec.

  • @enzoshink7597

    @enzoshink7597

    16 күн бұрын

    there are prob no devs for FDK. Looks like most changes to the spec come from class discord suggestions lol... Literally no FDK likes to play breath. They need to delete the whole spec and remake it from 0

  • @dirtnap9641

    @dirtnap9641

    16 күн бұрын

    bm hunter is super boring too, its just strong

  • @driiifter

    @driiifter

    16 күн бұрын

    im going Frost for TWW and i might play Breath too.

  • @richiepipes8960

    @richiepipes8960

    16 күн бұрын

    Im trying to like it but im thinking survival is more exciting

  • @chaoshunting5659

    @chaoshunting5659

    16 күн бұрын

    @@richiepipes8960 yeah I mean the fact they added another build instead of fleshing out or just giving a real rework is crazy.

  • @arcane3419
    @arcane341916 күн бұрын

    why did they give hunters more damage

  • @talisredstar1543
    @talisredstar154316 күн бұрын

    Oh I'm pissed at blizzard you can say that again. As a Ret, ALL of our utility you can get from Prot and Holy, but they also can bring Spellwarding or Aura Mastery. Looking at the raid on the video, what a surprise, the only paladin in the group is Holy. wow, great work there blizzard. I would say oh our damage is great, but it never really is, because once other dps classes come online, we are back to middle of the pack in over all. And even our tankiness are practically one more nerf from being back to Pre-rework. If I even stay with Retribution, I'll run devo for my guild, but pugs all your getting is crusader aura, and you'll like it.

  • @lullaonyx6427

    @lullaonyx6427

    6 күн бұрын

    Ouin ouin . Many class dont got 2 time the same class and diff spe in raid . Stop crying play prot and holy too

  • @talisredstar1543

    @talisredstar1543

    4 күн бұрын

    @@lullaonyx6427 Why should I play specs that I don't enjoy? I prot paladin for years in TBC and beginning of Wrath. But once I was able to move to Ret, where I wanted to be all along. I haven't looked back. And Holy, when I did play it, it was during the time when Melee Holy was king. They are trying as it seems to send it back to caster, and that isn't paladin in my book. That is Cleric and Priest.

  • @Jallandhara
    @Jallandhara16 күн бұрын

    Ele is absolute trash for pvp now. I hate it.

  • @Urteilsdrache

    @Urteilsdrache

    16 күн бұрын

    for pve also, ele is at its worst state since classic imo

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