Check out the WaterBoys Podcast: kzread.info/dron/dMeVnhaRPYIl08eFV5dRgA.html Did we miss any Olympic cheaters? Let us know in the comments below!

@mlggamer5296

2 жыл бұрын

Lance Armstrong

@AnyoneCanSee

2 жыл бұрын

Why did you say "allegedly" about Russia when they were caught and found guilty? That seems very shady.

@Anthony-xe2pz

2 жыл бұрын

The high ups of the IOC. I know in the past the British IOC officials lived like lords of the Olympic funding while refusing to fund sports men and women. Since Team GB has got lottery funding and there's accountability GB is now a super power in many sports.

@dragonslayerdragonslayer

2 жыл бұрын

Actually Russia is still competing in the Olympics under the flag ROC (the Russian Olympic Committee)

@AnyoneCanSee

2 жыл бұрын

@@dragonslayerdragonslayer - Sort of but if you Google it, you'll see the Official Russian Team is banned which is why they are not allowed to compete under the Russian flag or play the Russian anthem if they win. So they are the athletes of Russia but not Russia. It may seem a small distinction but Russia itself is officially banned. But they don't want younger athletes to suffer for their countries mistakes.

Fun fact: the subscription promo is actually 10 seconds long so you can just double tap and get on with the video.

@gabrielmambo5436

2 жыл бұрын

I’m about to make this video’s honorable mention…

@mtrcycls

2 жыл бұрын

dude stfu before they change it 😂

@xKRONxAxTHONx

2 жыл бұрын

Every time lol

@akajesustsuki

2 жыл бұрын

Omg ty sooo much dude I never thought of that it was so annoying trying to line time right after ad!

@ckromuluss11and89

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate ,stopped watching the channel because they take so long to start,

"Everybody cheats." That's ^^^ what cheaters tell themselves in an attempt to make themselves feel less guilty.

@CrimsonNineTail

2 жыл бұрын

True, but as you saw here, he's not entirely wrong.

@norbit764

2 жыл бұрын

Just like people who say "everyone pees in the pool" .... Um, no, even as a child I knew that was gross and wrong but sure, keep telling yourself that

@SMD2x

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrimsonNineTail thats a sociopathic way to look at it

@NikolajMLaursen

2 жыл бұрын

A thief believes everybody steals, as the saying goes

@commanderryu7554

2 жыл бұрын

@matt alan ok “adult”

The Spanish Paralympic basketball team is clearly where Cartman got the idea to pretend to be handicapped so he could compete in the Special Olympics (and come in last in every event).

@JamesDavy2009

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of that.

@rafaeldavid32

2 жыл бұрын

So maybe was inspired from it then?

Who else was grossed out that the lab tech wasn't wearing gloves when testing the urine?

@nutsandbolts1264

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it was a taste test

@Hessed3712

2 жыл бұрын

nuts and bolts Dude no!

@AvgDude

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that really pissed me off.

@WatchMojo

2 жыл бұрын

OMG

@crescentmoon256

2 жыл бұрын

it feels like lukewarm water to the touch

Lol using extra heavy boots during tug of war. That sounds like something on a cartoon!

@jayb8934

2 жыл бұрын

And getting your twin to compete for you sounds like something out of a sitcom!

@JamesDavy2009

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if it in part inspired a point in _Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess_ where you wore iron boots to sumo wrestle a Goron.

@Anthony-xe2pz

2 жыл бұрын

I was expecting to hear the fencing cheat had used a gun.

@ECG3485

2 жыл бұрын

They must have ordered those boots from Acme 🤣🤣🤣👢

@BatCaveOz

2 жыл бұрын

The official regulations stipulated: "No competitor shall wear prepared boots or shoes or boots or shoes with any projecting nails, tips, sprigs, points, hollows, or projections of any kind". As the UK police wore boots that had steel rims on the soles, the Americans deemed these to be :prepared boots".

Sooo the badminton team was purposely losing games against teams early on to put themselves against teams they'd have a better chance of winning against during the knockout rounds? They did this in eSports and majority of people agreed that it was the organizations fault for making a shit system that was so easily abused

@kayhanbaltian4949

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Because If One Of Them Win They Will Compete Against Women Doubles Number One Maybe That's Why They Play So Bad

@wh3elson

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not even the “abuse” part. It’s the way the bracket works is retarded. Theoretically you would want the 2 best teams in the finals. However how they did it, the better you did the harder the opponent you faced in the prelims. Which is the opposite of what you want

@roberw1912

2 жыл бұрын

Any World Records still held by East Germans is probably drug assisted. Its amazing some records still exist from the 1980s.

@base21

Жыл бұрын

But it's also the players fault for not doing the right thing and ya know, not abusing the system

Spain really watched Johnny Knoxville’s ringer and said let’s try that😂😂

@3l3vation

2 жыл бұрын

The ringer came out 5 years after that scandal

@alexandersampson6799

2 жыл бұрын

When the fuck did we get ice cream

@kingpure9771

2 жыл бұрын

You scratched my cd in broad daylight.

@270MOX

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexandersampson6799 Fun fact: In that scene, you can see that Johnny Knoxville couldn't handle his laugh

7:37 that's picture of Paavo Nurmi. He was only 7 years old in 1904 and had nothing to do with Fred Lorz's cheating. Just thought I should point that out

1996 Olympics (Atlanta): Daniel Petrov (Bulgaria) vs Mansueto "Onyok" Velasco (Philippines). The latter was screwed out of what would've been his country's first gold medal due to rigged scoring.

@charliejoson9145

2 жыл бұрын

Onyok's story (the aftermath of the games) was a sad one. It only came to light after Hidilyn won the first ever gold and their were monetary pledges....something that Onyok did not receive (a.k.a "false hope") that's why he entered show business :(

@phtuber5469

2 жыл бұрын

Well they have a gold medal now, so he has been avenged.

And from the number 7 case, Indonesian women's double (greysia polii) just won the Gold medal yesterday. just wow, amazing development

You showed Marion Jones in your opening montage, yet she was nowhere to be found. She admitted to doping while at the 2000 and 2004 Olympics and was stripped of her medals.

@amybabyssims246

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for clarifying. They did that on another video.

@Anthony-xe2pz

2 жыл бұрын

If you ever saw the interviews right after she won she always praised god for the victory !

@lornarettig3215

2 жыл бұрын

The crazy part is, she ran faster than she ever would again *before* she started doping. What a waste.

@Kikiricki11

2 жыл бұрын

@matt alan the fuck

@270MOX

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but she went to prison because of lying to federal agents. Uff

The twin track athletes who swapped places reminds me of a guy I know who actually escaped prison that way. He was visited by his identical twin brother, also an ex-con, and convinced his weaker-minded brother to swap places with him. How they did it, I don't know; but it worked. It took two months for wardens to figure out something was wrong.

@jetodessa5484

2 жыл бұрын

Ronald and Reginald Kray. It was in a mental hospital, Ronnie had Paranoid Schizophrenia

@JohnDrummondPhoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@jetodessa5484 no, I'm talking about people I know personally.

@jetodessa5484

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDrummondPhoto ah ok. Cool!

I actually kinda of agree that the Badminton one is sorta BS, if qualifying is made up so that losing gets you an easier game then the tournament itself needs reworked. You see it (or used to not so much these days because games are played at the same time) in football with teams playing for draws in the champions league or the Euros and World Cup.

@MasterOfViewership

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, that's why there are matches played at the same time. To keep intentional losing from giving you an unfair advantage

@YuckFouTubeX

26 күн бұрын

POV: You are nervous at the Olympics that despite your best efforts you have your worst streak ever, in fact so bad that the administration accuses you of cheating

Thank you, I've been looking for a list like this! Although I'm actually expecting 20, but time will tell.

What about that Olympics where all the romans took magic potion and got disqualified and Asterix won?

@Ofthe7thSon

2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha. I was watching Asterix and Obelix last night….cheeky sumbiatches

@CrimsonNineTail

2 жыл бұрын

These Roman's are crazy.

@taramukherjee6634

2 жыл бұрын

Hey asterix why can’t I have the magic potion

@CrimsonNineTail

2 жыл бұрын

@@taramukherjee6634 You fell I the Cauldron of magic potion, that's why. 🤨😆

Title correction: Top 10 Times Olympic Athletes CAUGHT Cheating.

that Madeline De Jesus entry is where The Jetsons got the idea for "Winner Takes All" episode... yes i am THAT OLD.

Never heard about the Paralympics one, that's jaw dropping. The participation of 'Not' Russia in Tokyo after everything they did was a joke, and the IOC really made a mess of an ideal chance to send a message out.

They owe Roy Jones a 🏅

Boris Onishchenko’s magic epee was one of the worst instances of non-drug-related cheating

@Anthony-xe2pz

2 жыл бұрын

It was worse when I fenced against him...the git used a gun :)

@mathewdewsbury9456

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. That resulted in Great Britain getting the gold.

@samsignorelli

2 жыл бұрын

Sports Illustrated actually had a picture of the rig. it was NOT a circuit board like in the clip (like you could actually HIDE one in the guard??). There were extensions of the 2 blade wires that ran along his grip -- underneath the tape over the grip (which was legal at the time) -- and to a button by his pinky (not on on the blade). All he had to do was push that button and he'd fire the light. Of course, it's possible that Boris didn't decide to rig his epee on his own....remember this was during the old Soviet days, and if the KGB told you to cheat....you cheated.

@alexlautzenheiser5024

Жыл бұрын

@@samsignorelli Another scandal during the Cold War was East German state-sponsored doping. In 1974, it's athletes were required to use PEDs, notably Oral Turinabol and testosterone. If they didn't, they would be permanently kicked out of sports schools they trained in. During the 1976 games in Montreal, Shirley Babashoff, one of the members on the United States attempted to blow the whistle on the scheme by calling out her GDR rivals for PED use due to hair growth and deepening of the voices, but was labeled as a poor sportsperson, and there were strong allegations from other competitors and observers they were doping, but state resources were used to cover it up. After the Berlin Wall came down, the GDR's doping program unraveled, and suspicions were confirmed. Whistleblower Verner Franke, who has since passed away uncovered the scheme. It was revealed that 8,000 to 9,000 East German athletes were given performance-enhancing drugs. Many of them have long-term damage as a result of the steroids they were given, most notable being Heidi Krieger, who is now Andreas Krieger. Those who organized and masterminded the doping program, such as Manfred Ewald and Manfred Höppner were caught, but given suspended sentences for their roles. Much like East Germany, Russia was also implicated in state-sponsored doping. Former East German athletes warned Russians that doping isn't worth it.

You might want to check your facts with the tug of war dishonourable mention! The Americans accused them of cheating because they were beaten, the Liverpool police offered them a rematch with them in barefoot, the Americans withdrew their accusation.

Of cause, despite all the cheating including physical assault and broke the knee by team mate’s boyfriend, the cover of this video has to be a pair of Chinese badminton player, who didn’t give their all.

@kaushiksivaraman5203

2 жыл бұрын

Hey it's the Chinese they are the new russians

@GREATLFG

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaushiksivaraman5203 well that case it should not be difficult for India to ally with China with the historical relationship with the “old” Russian.

@kaushiksivaraman5203

2 жыл бұрын

@@GREATLFG lol good one

7:37 is Paavo Nurmi, the Phantom Finn. Shared second for most gold medals in olympic history

This made me doubt if "sportsmanship" is really in the mindset of every participants of the Olympics.

@YuckFouTubeX

26 күн бұрын

Of course not, it is only the ones mentally focusing on winning that reach the Olympics, if there were an event for "Sportsmanship" the contestants would be completely different people, this is a good thing as it means that those that win are indeed those that put the most effort in... Yet as you say, those that cheat by using tricks, steroids drugs and even worse cheats cannot possibly have "sportsmanship" in mind, even should they claim so

The 1976 Olympics in Montreal with the U.S. Swimmers blood doping. Australian 1500 metre swimmer breaks the world record and is beaten into third by two relative unknown U.S. swimmers.

Wow number one sounds like a sting operation was being carried out right there. He really thought he couldn't get caught? Smh man. And you forgot Lance Armstrong

@mrsocko316

2 жыл бұрын

I think the Olympics he was involved in were before he started doping. But I could be wrong.

@cazia9

2 жыл бұрын

Lance competed in Sydney in 2000, his 3rd place was voided as part of a much larger scale stripping of titles earned…plus I don’t think that Lance is primarily known as an Olympic athlete like the others on this list

@YuckFouTubeX

26 күн бұрын

@@cazia9 Agreed, Lance's bad deeds aren't directly related to the Olympics anyway, also he's been mentioned half to death in like every third WatchMojo list

how ironic 4:47 Polii G won the gold medal yesterday, the same day this video was posted.

The 1904 marathon was nuts! There’s a puppet history on it. Completely insane.

@ramuelcruzada3207

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. I love the Jon Bois video on it.

Rigging the para Olympics!! That’s cold.

Wait…how is Tanya Harding number 10? It was brutal cheating and violence against someone else… that’s far worse than self doping and modification of equipment

Hey what about Onyok Velasco's boxing Gold robbery?

#1 is hilarious and the inspiration behind Johnny Knoxville's movie!

I used to love watching all kinds of sports competitions in my younger days, but today I'm barely watching anything. Why? All the doping and cheating took all the fun out of it. When people win my first thoughts are almost always "did they cheat"? Cheating seems to be an issue no matter what, so I guess humans are nothing but honourless garbage

Watchmojo lists have been 🔥 recently

THE WORST OLYMPIC DECISION EVER!

I feel like I've seen this video or a remix of it 10 times in the past week

Tonya only made tenth?!!??? The Devil, You Say!

Why the hell didn't they ban Tanya Harding for life? That shit is messed up. Though I like that even after cheating, she still only got 6th place, while her injured rival still managed to get 2nd place.

@captainspaulding5963

2 жыл бұрын

They did, Tonya competed before it was confirmed that she was involved. As soon as that came out she was banned for life.

@ayadhyist

5 ай бұрын

They didn’t find the extent to her involvement until after the event, and then she banned.

Having a prestige is much more enticing than realizing the essence (or purpose) of playing the sport

0:42 is this Tom Daley 😂😂 an old version of him

#3 reminds me of Geoffrey's back story from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

What do you think every Olympics would be like if no athletes ever cheated?

@Apex_Yonko

2 жыл бұрын

Same shit different winners

@petesmart1983

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know it will never happen even in the 40s people were cheating, and now most sports everyone cheats

@Trojianmaru

2 жыл бұрын

Other side of the coin. What if every contender was allowed to openly dope? No breaking kneecaps or riding a car in a marathon, but doing whatever it takes to push your body to superhuman levels. Like we could have the paralympics, the Olympics, and the superlympics. Every contender has to sign a waver, can't be pressured into it, and has to give ongoing consent throughout the superlympics.

Does anyone know the soundtrack of the video?

@JMwhocares

2 жыл бұрын

There are common music libraries that provide background music for a set price. It likely came from one of those.

Lorz didn't confess anything in 1904 marathon. He was CAUGHT by several people who'd seen him and ran into the awards ceremony as the medal was about to go around his neck screaming, "Imposter!!". THAT was when he admitted it and slinked off into the crowd.

I am very surprised the 1972 Gold Medal basketball game isn't on the list.

Jamaica's sprinters, Kenya's mid/long distance runners, Australia's swimmers, Russia's all sports, etc.

The boxing officials of atlanta '96...robbed mansueto velasco of a gold medal against bulgaria

The Russian state sponsored cheating should have been #1. A team cheating pales in comparison to an entire country cheating. And whats more egregious was the slap on the wrist "punishment" handed down by the IOC.

Part 2 please

Are Olympians supposed to also be master detectives? "You didn't know she wasn't your teammate? Wow, suspended"

“East German Luge Team scandal…” *shows stock footage of Skeleton*

waiting for 10 times judges make people go "what the fuck?"

3:32 why is my man not wearing gloves 😭

I'm surprised that they brought up scandal from the ancient Olympics.

that might update constantly in years to come here.

Johan Mulegg, salt Lake 2002. The biggest shame in Cross Countryskiing EVER!

The worst for my country Olympics, Sydney 2000...especially for the Paralympic: the Spanish basketball team.😡

I have respect for the track coach that didn't go along with the #4 entry.

Wait!! Back up a bit!! Olympics had a 'Tug of War' event back in the day!? Why was that event cancelled at all?

"What could be worse than the Russian doping scandal?" *gets to number 1* "WTF."

They forgot Lance Armstrong, who had all his medals taken away after finding out he'd been doping the whole time. That should've been number one.

@og5466

2 жыл бұрын

Did you read the title? Olympian. Armstrong is not even an Olympian

@MrSniperfox29

2 жыл бұрын

@@og5466 Actually he competed in 1992,1996 and 2000.

Haven't watched the list but let's be honest if China and Russia aren't on it then they've got to watchmojo too.

0:08 Jullian your voice is awesome for watchmojo

The last guy who took part in the sandal to just blew the whistle and expose the act got my respect for the risk he took.

@Trojianmaru

2 жыл бұрын

Right? If he'd been wrong about it, and got caught as the only non-paralympic person there, or just couldn't prove he was right, all the hate the entire team ended up getting, would of been focused solely on him.

@MrSniperfox29

2 жыл бұрын

Why did he wait until the tournament was over? Did he then apologise to all the teams who Spain had beaten? "Sorry I allowed a team of cheats to beat you, but my story wouldn't sell otherwise" He could have outed them the second they set foot at the games, but for some reason (probably money) stopped him from doing so. I have no respect for such a coward.

Yuberjen against Ryomei Tanaka in tokyo 2021 olympics games

Not properly a cheating thing, but after many Olympics that I have seen in my life, still as of today I find it quite amazing that lot of times athletes that never had remarkable results suddenly become WR Level athletes with impressive scores when the Olympics are held in their contry :)

@co0kii

2 жыл бұрын

could be a few factors involved, home advantage being one of them (they’ll already be accustomed to the environment/weather/time difference etc)

The Seoul boxing corruption was outrageous.

The French judge that made sure (by giving false scores) that the Russian pair of figure skaters would win over the Canadian pair of Salé and Pelletier in the Winter Olympics in 2002

I used to cheat all my buddies in board games.Those guys still believe I am a gifted champ when it comes to rolling dice. But hey, like our most respected Ben Johnson says "I cheat,you cheat, we all cheat..."

1996 Atlanta Olympics. Amateur boxing - light flyweight finals Philippines vs Bulgaria Phils obviously won the fight but Bulgaria got more points for some reason. In fact, Floyd Mayweather jr. also mysteriously lost to a Bulgarian during that Olympics.

I missed the tug of war competition at the 2020 Olympics in Japan. I hope the London Police team didn't cheat again.

I always love this one Olympics where it was us vs Russia in basketball but let's just say the US had won the game until Russia started cheating basically getting all of the bogus calls to give them free plays and win the game well basically what happened was the US won silver but the team knowing they had been robbed just left and never picked the medal up

@JamesDavy2009

2 жыл бұрын

This was featured in their video _Top 10 Controversial Calls in Sports History._

So after Sochi, how are Russians allowed to compete in 2020/2021 under the ROC? Genuine question. Also, I didn't realize there was a minimum age. If they are the best at 12, who cares? There is no Olympian who would refuse a medal if it caused a permanent injury... it isn't okay but it is what they strive to achieve...

@christopherx7428

2 жыл бұрын

The rules clearly state that there is a minimum age, so being younger is obviously cheating regardless of why the rule is there. I _think_ the rule has been introduced to protect (mainly female) gymnasts from being abused.

@mazdakmina9493

2 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right! It's a joke that they're essentially still able to represent Russia when Russia is supposed to be stricken from the record books! That needs to change. And let's be clear, *most* sports *have* no minimum age, simply because there's almost zero *advantage* to competing in it before you're fully grown. Yes, the sports that *do* have a minimum age often do so because competing when you're younger often offers certain *advantages,* which by itself is usually just part of the sport, but of course, when the advantages come due to the athletes not being fully grown yet, well, simply put, then there are several *very serious* issues that will destroy *your entire sport* if you, the governing body of the sport, do not step in and put checks on. So yes, basketball, for example, has no minimum age, because there's no advantage to taking someone younger. Yes, the heavy load could hurt the younger athlete in that sport as well, but there's no incentive to actively recruit players for whom that risk is very real, so you don't need to put in a rule de-incentivizing a team from forcing younger athletes to take those risks. But obviously, for some other sports, like gymnastics, not being fully grown provides some *major* advantages. Having shorter legs in proportion to your body gives athletes a *huge* advantage, and since that proportion is most advantageous when the athlete is younger, there is a *huge* incentive for teams and coaches to essentially force younger athletes to destroy their bodies and stunt their growth (moreso than usual), and therefore, to prevent catastrophic failures in athletes later in life (which not only are bad for the athletes themselves, but bad for the sport, because you're going to see a massive exodus of athletes who choose to do sports that *don't* leave them unable to walk without chronic pain by their early twenties) they need to de-incentivize that behavior and basically say, "you're only allowed to take athletes who are more or less fully grown." Yes, I agree, there are still problems, but that's basically the idea, and for once, it's actually the *right* one (I wish they were more consistent in sticking to that principle of "safety first" though. Good God, they fail to protect their athletes in *so many other* ways)!

Greece 67 CE 😳 I never knew the Olympics has been around for so long?!

#1 I never heard of such insensitive thing ever. Lol

2:55 = The most controversial in 1988 3:48 = which was cheated including my country (Indonesia) 7:55 = Most scandalous cheat ever

Yes they seem to have conveniently skipped over most of the high profile US doping scandals/suspicion (no mention of Carl Lewis, Flo Jo, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, Tyson Gay, Justin Gatlin etc etc ) but focus on the heavy boots worn by Great Britain in the tug of war.

@glencoco3240

2 жыл бұрын

bro it’s never that serious

Couldve included abit more info about the 1st clip

Always Remember in Boxing if you cannot knock your opponent down you can be cheated.

Why does 2012 clip looks like from 1980s?

I wonder why the 1972 Men's Soviet Basketball Team was not included

@jasminejohnston6393

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah or the Spanish “Paralympic” basketball team (most of them faked their disabilities)

@antmaster360

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasminejohnston6393 That’s number 1

@captainspaulding5963

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasminejohnston6393 did you watch the video?

@klfrostmediallc334

2 жыл бұрын

How did the Russian 1972 bball team cheat? It was the Ruling body that perpetrated that terrible result

There is the case of the Press sisters, who suddenly stopped competing when they introduced tests to determine sex. But OK, they were not caught red-handed as they refused to be tested...

I think there was a boxing match this Olympics of a Japanese fighter too

@3:27 Are they seriously manipulating urine sample without gloves?

Megan Parker: hey what's your secret Josh Nichols: we put the Peruvian puff peppers in our salsa Judge: sorry the Peruvian puff peppers are banned. Sorry we'll have to disqualify salsa. And our new winner by default is Megan parker. Drake: Megan. You set us up didn't you Megan: what? You think I was able to buy the puffpeppers thinking you boobs would steal it so u can put it in your salsa and had you disqualified? And that I would take home a big screen yatzabishi tv for myself? Plz I'm not that smart. I wish this kind of cheating is on the list

Here's a list of Olympic athletes I would be surprised to find out cheated: 1.

So at 3:21 when that man was playing with piss …. No gloves … we aint gon talk about that

So is that why Russia is using a different flag?

@tomislavpetrovic4451

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah... Kinda fell bad for them

@captainspaulding5963

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomislavpetrovic4451 really.. after goddamn near every athlete was caught cheating. They shouldn't be able to compete whatsoever

@tomislavpetrovic4451

2 жыл бұрын

@@captainspaulding5963 I feel bad cause they can't use their flag and anthem and anything similar to Russia. If you are American, imagine if there is no US flag on Olympics, no us anthem on Olympics when someone win gold etc..

@captainspaulding5963

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomislavpetrovic4451 if like 80% of the American team was caught cheating, my statement would be exactly the same. If an individual athlete gets caught, they are banned for life. Same thing should happen if an ENTIRE COUNTRY was caught

@Dr.Papachow

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomislavpetrovic4451 Honestly.. 4 year ban ain't bad at all. Taiwan on the other hand, had to put up fake name, flag and anthem in order to participate

Fun fact: Greysia Polii was involved in 2012 Olympic scandal with Meiliana Jauhari, but 9 years later she got a gold medal with her new mate Apriyani Rahayu.

Tonya didn't cheat. Her husband and his associates actions are not hers and she shouldn't have to deal with their consequences. She was unfairly treated.

@charliem6986

2 жыл бұрын

@Jay Harv28 she likely thought they were kidding and didn't take it seriously.

I've heard of controversy of skater athletes being beaten up brutally in order 4 some1 2 win that's just cheap and lame.

The Match Fixing Scandal at the 2012 London Olympics involving Badminton Athletes of China, South Korea and Indonesia is one of the worst in history. I hope so.

Who is that at 0:25 ? I remember this segment but for the life of me her name escapes me.

@iamjenantoinette

2 жыл бұрын

Nevermind I remember. Marian Jones!

In my opinion, those players didn't cheat at 2012 women's double badminton. The problems were made by the UK. They used the wrong rules and schedules to restrict the actions of those players. Whoever won the games would face the no.1 in the next round. Therefore, no one wanted to win. This schedule's mistakes were made by the London Olympics, not by the players. Ironically, the beginning of the London Olympics was celebrating the UK sailing players who had decided to lose to the game intentionally. In this way, these two UK players would not need to face French players who they never won until the final. Finally, these two "smart" UK players went to the final, and French players lost before the final. These "smart" players won. Interesting!!!

@MrSniperfox29

2 жыл бұрын

The problem with your "excuse" is the fact it wasn't just the British who complained about the badminton players, EVERYONE did, so trying to shoehorn a complain about the British sailors is laughable. They all "cheated" because they broke the rules on always trying your best to win.

@jijojoe8409

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSniperfox29 The Olympics games' hosts should create a great environment for all of the players. It is their responsibilities. This is what I want to say.

@MrSniperfox29

2 жыл бұрын

@@jijojoe8409 There's a rule that you can't purposefully shave points during a game! Match-fixing is indeed illegal! That was blatant match-fixing! But more importantly, the story gets told wrong, and the system really wasn't broken in the first place (group winners play group runners up. You can't much more fair than that, hence why most sports use it. Even the update they made to the format didn't change that, but simply made it less predictable which group winners and group runners up would face each other). The reason the whole thing started was about greed and nothing else (after one Chinese pair got upset and fell to second, which meant the two Chinese pairs would face in the semi-finals instead of the finals, coaches of the two teams got together, and told the other one to lose on purpose and fall to second so because they wanted the two teams to finish 1-2, even though losing on purpose would likely mean a much tougher quarterfinal opponent and a likely semi-final matchup with the Danish pair who upset the Chinese pair and won the group over them). It was straight up match-fixing for a dumb reason! But yes, once it became obvious the second Chinese pair was shaving points, their Korean opponents tried to shave points as well to counter it (and failed, as they won the game and won the group), and as a result, the second Korean team and the Indonesian team in the other group shaved points as well in an attempt to avoid facing that Chinese team that shaved points! Let's be clear, the whole debacle could've been stopped if they'd disqualified the Chinese pair that was shaving points immediately after it was noticed. But they didn't, and that lead to several other teams trying to shave points to counter that attempt to shave points! Was it fair that those other teams also got disqualified? Not sure. On one hand, how can you disqualify one team but not the other three who did the exact same thing? On the other, they don't do it if the first team doesn't do it! Basically, there was no 100% fair move at that point, but the move they made was probably as fair as it was going to get. So yes, this narrative that it was the system that was broken is simply false (the system may have been somewhat flawed, but it was honestly perhaps even less flawed than it is now, where there might be more incentive to throw a match and avoid facing a team that has been upset and has fallen to second, knowing now that if you win first in your group, they could be drawn to face you as early as the quarterfinals, and the only way to avoid them is to finish second yourself! You see, the problem never really got fixed, because it was never really broken in the first place. It's arguably even more broken now because of those antics)! The problem was greedy coaches trying to screw over their own athletes and other deserving athletes by straight up fixing matches!

Cheaters might take home a medal or a ribbon but they are not winners.

I love it how Statians dont ever do wrong

I'm surprised not to see the Chinese for the 2008 summer olympics. I remember when the female gymnastics were going on at the time how great Shawn Johnson and Nastia Liukin were for the US how they both were able to win golds and silvers and then there was this Chinese girl who clearly was under age competing against them and winning more golds. There was even an investigation about her because she clearly looked too young and I actually think she still was. Why was that not on here? She couldn't have been proven of age. I'm completely certain Nastia Liukin and Shawn Johnson would have won more medals if it wasn't for her.

Crazy

On 4 why the hell did her teammates get punished for her mistake?