Most effective medieval weapon? Obviously the holy hand grenade.

@Odwolf2

4 жыл бұрын

I believe you mean the Pommel of Mass Destruction lol

@-smp-scientificmethodpersp838

4 жыл бұрын

Please don't skip 3 when doing the count down though!

@jeffk464

4 жыл бұрын

The most effective weapon in human history was always the pen.

@ousamadearu5960

4 жыл бұрын

No, you are all mistaken, it was just the dangerous bunny. No knight can win against such beast.

@MaxSluiman

4 жыл бұрын

Eh, the Plague? God's wrath? Starvation?

Whole list in nutshell: Do you want to protect yourself, or deal some damage?

@Photoloss

4 жыл бұрын

Long pointy stick: "why not both?"

@lowlandnobleman6746

4 жыл бұрын

Long pointy stick didn’t work too well at protecting Scottish Lowlanders from English arrows at Falkirk. I reckon spear and shield would be better then pike.

@Photoloss

4 жыл бұрын

@@lowlandnobleman6746 This video was about a *duel* so as long as you manage to avoid getting shot in the head or torso right off the bat you can probably rush an archer and finish them off. On a battlefield you still want longer spears than the opponent has _in addition_ to shields but yes, good shields in combination with _any_ stabbing weapon are vital against projectiles.

@lowlandnobleman6746

4 жыл бұрын

True, but a skillful opponent could get past the pike, so I’d still personally want spear and shield for that extra safety and versatility.

@Photoloss

4 жыл бұрын

@@lowlandnobleman6746 There's a reason he banned shields in the video. Although that does pose the question, if you were allowed to use _any_ shield, would you use a very large or strapped one or a smaller more nimble option such as a boss-gripped roundshield? And do you use a one-handed spear or a more hefty and versatile cut&thrust weapon such as a gladius, arming sword or the like as the shield can negate enemy reach advantage? Basically if you have a shield you might want to rush an enemy spearman at which point the greater damage potential of a cutting blade would be valuable, but if the opponent is wearing plate armour (with polearm, with or without shield) you're still pretty doomed.

When you are fighting a knight in full plate, a can opener can be mightier than the sword.

@howardwayne3974

3 жыл бұрын

I have one of those !!!!!

@bugvswindshield

3 жыл бұрын

or...fight near water if possible.

@reetisahu1880

3 жыл бұрын

Or use a spear edged with can operner

@jessefisher1809

3 жыл бұрын

the can opening spear!

@weloniko

3 жыл бұрын

Can opener on a stick

Imagine humanity in the future, taking about guns the way we talk about medieval wepons

@chillycoldchomper9389

2 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of the wild west partner

@britishpotato8815

2 жыл бұрын

@@chillycoldchomper9389 oh yeah, I guess you're right. Well played partner.

@Technotoadnotafrog

2 жыл бұрын

People already do that with WWII weapons

@RealRagnar816

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t imagine guns getting much better 🤔

@remigiuszbisha9658

2 жыл бұрын

@@RealRagnar816 Well imagine them getting obsolete, they are better ways to sling slugs of metal at each other than gunpowder

Anyone who's spent any time on historical youtube saw the pole-axe coming from a mile away.

@umbrallight7508

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@koljaleffek7290

3 жыл бұрын

I really see the halberd at the top tbh.

@crownlexicon5225

3 жыл бұрын

I figured it would've been the bill tbh, but I had the top 3 correct

@tomc.5704

3 жыл бұрын

I was leaning towards rapier, but if your opponent might be armored and you're not allowed a shield...yeah, poleaxe all the way

@coito5307

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about the halberd the whole vid but k

An army marches on its stomach, so clearly the most effective weapon was PASTA

@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929

4 жыл бұрын

@Rex Francorum Or you could just use your brain and summon the flying spaghetti monster. Obviously.

@gunarsmiezis9321

4 жыл бұрын

An army marches on patriotism.

@Ezyasnos

4 жыл бұрын

Well when the Dutch fought the Spanish empire in the late 16th and early 17th century, the - always with war accompanying - famine had much less of an impact because of a new 4 field crop rotation system.

@Vlad_Tepes_III

4 жыл бұрын

*poison

@sevenproxies4255

4 жыл бұрын

**laughs in rice**

Blunt weapons, I’ve come to find, are very underrated. You can get the fanciest, most expensive, most durable armor money can buy, but all it takes to shut you down is some peasant with a particularly thick branch.

@agent8213

2 жыл бұрын

"BuT It's NoT EfFeCtIvE AgAnIsT UnArMoUr eNeMy" Armour or not you're going to get beat the sh*t out of you

@agent8213

2 жыл бұрын

Also get back to work

@Mramazing103

2 жыл бұрын

Well It's still better to be hit by a blunt weapon while wearing armor rather then being hit with it while unarmored.

@ichbinschanppi

2 жыл бұрын

Get you a weapon that can do both. Most poleaxe had a chisel or hammer on the back. Spicy

@user-su4mi6ky6z

2 жыл бұрын

Thick spikes, like cones, they wont get stuck, but they concentrate all the force in one point, with armour, and without armor, it could crack your skull or some bones

I like that he says everything like we seriously are gonna do it irl

@RW77777777

3 жыл бұрын

those heated arguments about top 10 ranking...

@wisewigga7129

3 жыл бұрын

@@RW77777777 fr

@jollimaiahtacksworth

2 жыл бұрын

You aren't?

@julesfalcone

Жыл бұрын

Very funny.

The moment you said "no shields" my immediate response was "poleaxe!"

@gluna3196

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderthompson7164 there’s a difference? maybe i’m slow

@stratcat3216

3 жыл бұрын

exactly.. "Gimme some distance"

@seraphwithatank6535

2 жыл бұрын

Well that's like the weapon right before guns, so yeah. Glaives, two handed axes, partisans, a big two-handed sword, ect.

@jameshill2450

2 жыл бұрын

Mine was "Why? That's a dumb rule"

@erojerisiz1571

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderthompson7164 the poleaxe was also modular while the halberd was made from one piece of steel

A mace is still perfectly effective even without armor, one blow from a mace against an unarmored opponent would shatter bone if it hits bone. Blunt weapons can only do more damage against an unarmored opponent than against an armored opponent.

@meyes1098

3 жыл бұрын

​@@alexanderthompson7164 The problem with a mace is that it's slow and unwieldy compared to a sword, or the majority of other weapons. So if your opponent just so happens to use a sword you're at a disadvantage regardless of their armor.

@lordsesshoumaru8596

3 жыл бұрын

true, padding and mail can displace some of the force, but the only difference would be plate. perhaps damaging plate which could put pressure on the chest to not breath properly or effect mobility. piercing is lethal but unless something vital is hit the fight could continue for minutes and slashing could remove a limb or the head, but I think by statistical probability blunt weapons would offer a game changing or fight ending strike more easily and quickly. he really should have elaborated more on maces or morning stars because he shows images of both but calls them all maces. you can definitely thrust with a morning star, if need be...and who says you can't thrust with a mace..? you can't pierce with a mace thrust, but that would hit hard to the face opening bleeding that could effect vision or damage a helmet visor, when your life is on the line everything is versatile...

@stinkymanproductions618

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong

@RiderOftheNorth1968

3 жыл бұрын

@@lordsesshoumaru8596 The word "morningstar" is complex to use because the meaning is not really fully agreed upon. Some people (and culture/languages) concider only a flail with a spiky ball a morningstar, others call any mace that is ballheaded and spiky a morningstar as examples. But that is not my main topic. There is a misconception that is very common that i like to adress here. You touch it in your comment so i would like to "fill out the gaps" so to speak: People in general seems to be fixated with the ability to kill in a weapon, even the need to kill in a battle scenario. There is no special use in killing in a battle, just put them out of action is enough. Death can be delivered after the fighting is over. So to but a hole in someone might be deadly tomorrow but useless right now. Here the blunt weapon makes much more sense i believe: A hit that cruches muscles, breaks bones and is immediately very painful is, Most likely, more effective "right now" especially when the wielder will hit again and again and again... To recieve a hit with a mace WILL make you loose focus, you can´t directly counter, it might even shift your balance slightly. That "stagger effect" gives the mace wielder time to recover and hit again. A good hit on plate transfer a lot of force into the body within. That is the reason blunt weapon was prefered against plated foes. There is no need to dent or poke a hole in the plate, the force goes through anyway. Just like the "toy" called Newtons Cradle. I hope you understand that i am not criticising you i am just elaborating.

@denisashby5589

3 жыл бұрын

@@meyes1098 not if your strong enough to swing it hard

warhammer: **scores low** *HERESY*

@Raigosai

3 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind, if you're not trying to murder someone, it's far more ideal

@Feeshyenjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

@@Raigosai i mean its not like you wont murder them if you hit them with any form of commitment

@loganjerome2263

3 жыл бұрын

If shields were allowed the warhammer would have place much higher. Roran will have his due.

@anonymuz796

3 жыл бұрын

Russians:it's a klevec(literally "pecker").

@essex3777

3 жыл бұрын

IT IS HERESY AGAINST HIS MOST HOLY GOD-EMPEROR OF MANKIND

I personally feel that the mace deserved a little more love in terms of damage to unarmoured opponents because it almost doesn't matter where you hit said opponent, you would be able to deliver at least a debilitating blow. I might just be cocky but I imagine a full power strike would certainly break bone which even in the arm or shoulder would critically hamper their ability to offend or defend.

@clownworld4655

2 жыл бұрын

Yea the idea that blunt weapons are somehow ineffective against someone who isn’t armored is dumb. The only perk slicing has is blood loss and cutting muscles/tendons which would cause complete debilitation of the body part. Blunt force is still very deadly as you can easily break bone and rupture organs. A mace strike to the torso can be potentially lethal and will likely take the person out of the fight just from the shock of the hit. It’s even a technique used in hand to hand combat. Watch Bas Rutten. He is a famous fighter known for punching his opponents in the liver which is one of the most painful spot to be hit. Even ruptured a guys liver in a fight just from his punch

@tannermeche7968

2 жыл бұрын

@@clownworld4655 liver punch’s are devastating and it doesn’t even take a lot of power to completely rupture the liver with an accurate hit the problem is that it’s pretty hard to get an accurate liver shot in real combat

@clownworld4655

2 жыл бұрын

@@tannermeche7968 not really. Watch Bas Rutten’s fights. With some training and basically knowledge of anatomy it is pretty simple in a hand to hand fight

@Sids1192

2 жыл бұрын

If a blow is abe to kill\debilitate a guy in armour, it's hard to imagine that same blow not doing at least as well if the armour isn't there. In a low armour situation, it might not be as good as a sword, but you'll have a chance, no matter what your opponent goes with. Can't say the same for a falchion.

@anneominous7172

2 жыл бұрын

@@clownworld4655 This. Even just watch Rutten's highlights, the man is a liver aimbot.

Poleaxe, Yes! Also honorable mention to a rock in a sock.

@NordicEagleVids

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Doye What about a sock wrapped around a rock?

@chengkuoklee5734

4 жыл бұрын

Where is swordstaves? How'bout Finnish's "Good day Sir!"?

@andrewbatist6355

4 жыл бұрын

the weapon of choice for woman on duel trial during talhoffer´s time.

@MatthewDoye

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewbatist6355 precisely

@goreobsessed2308

4 жыл бұрын

a rock in a sock is a shitty flail and a flail is a shitty mace

My opinion is the anti-armor weapons should be ranked higher. If the opponent doesn't have armor, odds are they aren't a professional soldier and thus your choice of weapon carries less weight. If you pick a mace and it turns out you're fighting some unarmored farmer, you may not kill him as efficiently as if you had chosen a falchion, but you'll still win. However, if it turns out you're fighting a knight and you hadn't picked on anti-armor weapon, you're dead.

@McBurgle

4 жыл бұрын

obviously skill between opponents is the same in rating these regardless of armor.

@KyussSpeed-sg5je

4 жыл бұрын

One thing he doesn't mention as well is that blunt damge to the body can **only** increase when less armour is placed between the weapon and the opponent. He tries to claim that a mace would be less effective at killing an armoured opponent, but the thing is without armour in the way you can only do more damge. A direct hit to an opponent's cheekbone for instance (or any bone for that matter) would **always** for more damage then hitting the armour between it.

@chengkuoklee5734

4 жыл бұрын

When getting really up close and personal, mace wouldn't work. It's time for dagger to shine

@ctrlaltdebug

4 жыл бұрын

Wrestling works well vs armored, as long as you can close. With a shield it's easy.

@noukan42

4 жыл бұрын

Usually good weapon againist unarmored opponents are easier to carry around, wich makes them better suited to carry around 24/7. It's the same reasoning on why people carry handguns instead of assault rifles.

I feel like a mace and a Warhammer would do much better against unarmored opponents than a Falchion would against armor.

@volcajohann

Жыл бұрын

Truly. If I didn't know what my opponent would be wearing I'd never in my life pick a single handed sword. Even a two handed one, for that matter. A poleaxe, since they have both a point and a blunt end, would be perfect.

@acecrimson2393

Жыл бұрын

I agree, the Warhammer and Mace were HIGHLY underated, per say, if you hit an unarmored aponets head with a mace, he is going to die... And also, he stated that the warhammer can not cut, this is outright false. It could impale, cut, hit you on the head with a sometimes spiked hammer. Warhammers were VERY versitile.

@VicentePradoJunior

Жыл бұрын

​@@acecrimson2393 even if you get hit in the arm, i assume few people would be able to keep fighting with a broken(probably shattered) arm. Mace should be much higher up on the list

@Glo0ze

Жыл бұрын

@@acecrimson2393 I see this alot. It's not the damage they do when landing a blow that makes them "bad" it's simply the fact that landing any telling blow with a shortish blunt weapon against a nimble and fast opponent is just very very difficult. Ofcourse if you hit someone over the head with a mace he is going to die. But you need to get very close and put yourself in danger to do this. So yes the damage is there if you land a blow but the problem is that your blows are quite slow since you need a swing which is slower than a jab/thrust plus you need to put yourself in considerable danger because of the short range to be able to land this blow. This mistake is made mostly because the other way around it does mostly only revolves around damage. A cutting weapon just doesn't do damage to armor which is why its bad against armor. But it is not that a blunt weapon doesn't do damage to unarmored that it's bad against unarmored it that it is just really fucking hard to get a hit in with a short, slow, momentum based weapon against a fast and nimble opponent.

@acecrimson2393

Жыл бұрын

@@Glo0ze To put it simply, If your an armored Knight, going up against an "un armored nimble aponet" chances are you would be able to hit him without much fuss. You talk as if the warhammer weighs 50 pounds, which it did not. There are versions of the warhammer that have long shafts like a polearm for powerful and longer reach. I don't see your point..

"I prefer thrusts over cuts". Glad to see that ancient Italian tradition is alive and well!

Sorry, but I think a pike would be a terrible 1 vs 1 weapon. Any range advantage gets negated by the fact that you have no leverage at all at three meters, your enemy can literally just grab your pike by the shaft (kinky). It takes very little strength to move the point of a pike out of the way, anyone that doubts this, try it out for yourself with a blunt 3 meter stick. Once you are past the point, the whole weapon is useless because it is way too heavy and cumbersome to retract it quickly like a spear. It's also nearly impossible to thrust accurately at such a distance. Sure, the pike could theoretically get into the weak points of enemy armor, but you're not gonna be able to hit them at that distance, so it's not really an anti armor weapon. If the enemy has a weapon, he can swat your pike away with no risk to himself. There's a reason pikes were only used in massed formations, the drawbacks I mentioned don't really come into play when you have to get through 3 rows of dozens of pikes in front of you to even get to the first pikeman. You can't knock them all away, their accuracy doesn't mean shit when there's so many. And if you get past the first row of points, there are more behind it. I mean spears, yeah sure, but anything longer than 2.5 meters seems kind of impractical.

@LeslieMRichardson

4 жыл бұрын

I'm with you on this. Have trained with lots of different weapons, including pikes. It isn't that difficult to get past ONE pike ... unfortunately, pikes allow close formation, which means you are going to get skewered before reaching the holder of the one you dealt with. But 1 vs 1 ... yeah, you're toast. In the SCA, I mastered the fine art of parrying and spinning in with a polearm against both spears and pikes ... unless they had backup, it was essentially game over.

@mielivalta

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine having a duel inside a castle with pikes...

@messymessr

4 жыл бұрын

@@mielivalta It'd quickly turn into wrestling.

@LazyLifeIFreak

4 жыл бұрын

The eternal question, can you stab him before he stabs you?

@metatronyt

4 жыл бұрын

PIkes could be, and historically were, customizable in length by cutting the bottom end to the length you wanted so there you go. :)

If I was facing Matt Easton then my weapon of choice would be my bare hands, so that I'd have as little as possible weighing me down when I run away.

@aweshetdima2157

3 жыл бұрын

Run around the arena until he dies of a heart attack.

@wisewigga7129

3 жыл бұрын

*unscrews the pommel*

I agree. The pole axe at least gives you stand-off distance from your opponent who, statistically, is riddled with the Black Plague.

The Halberd: Do you want to do literally EVERYTHING to your opponent? Cut, slash, chop, stab, whack, that is a five in one deal! (Ye olde QVC)

@magatism

3 жыл бұрын

The halberd is merely ornamental, it was spear that was generally used in battle, all those youtube videos about using halberds are a sham, it merely denoted modern technology not necessarily effectivity.

@meyes1098

3 жыл бұрын

​@@magatism It appears in way too many historical paintings to not have been used in battle.

@magatism

3 жыл бұрын

@@meyes1098 It was not widely used but those paintings were meant to impress people. Like we showcase tanks, while M-18's and RPG's do most of the fighting.

@vast634

3 жыл бұрын

The Halberts problem: in a surprise encounter on the road, you would likely not carry it. That's where the swords come in: they were much more likely to be available, since they are easier to carry.

@wisewigga7129

3 жыл бұрын

@@vast634 and lighter than a mace with a better defence and better offense to unarmoured opponents but if someone shows up perfectly armoured you're dead

most versatile weapon? Pole axe lawbringer laughs in *versatility*

@hullo8246

4 жыл бұрын

GNAPPO REDZ ad mortem

@Ila-W

4 жыл бұрын

Pole arm, the most versitale weapon is used by overpowered/overtuned turtle. Ad morten shobe on red

@tanks608

4 жыл бұрын

Ilari Hiltunen how on earth is the law bro op? We have no opener at all and can only turtle and/or parry.

@Ila-W

4 жыл бұрын

@@tanks608 because he is super safe, over tuned and has huge turtle potential and over all, very unhealthy for the game. Just because he has no super viable opener, dosen't mean hero is weak. Especialy in game where defence is more powerful/rewarding that offencive. Overtuned parry punishes: parrying is one of the easiest mechanics in the game( both l and h parry). Crutchbringer has 50dmg l parry which is around ~42% of most heroes health pool. Heavy parry is 40dmg (10impale+30 heavy) if there is wall in front (usualy is because thats how maps are designed). Basicly lawbringer gets over reward for simple action. Sobe on red" from shove on block to shove on red. Shove has super low recovery means he can punish players that try to punish his punish (only certain heroes like tiandi or shaman can punish sobe on prediction. Hell, lb can parry most dodge attacks that are used against sobe (50-40dmg). Sobe had also early hyper armor (like pre nerfed hito ) meaning it can be used most chain based offencive with litle risk. Safest chain offecive: lb may not have viable opener but he has one of the safest chain offecive in the game. options are top 400ms light that can be delayed, side enhanced lights or unpunishable 500ms shove. Strongest 4v4 hero: lb is the strongest 4v4 hero by multipe reasons. He is the king of mid lane which is the most important point (both renown gain and objective point gains are incorrect (b is actualy around 1.5 score per s and unboosted zone is 0.8, boosted one is 1.6 not 2.) Because low recovery zone, high health pool and really strong feat/perk combinations. Lb is also strong ganker (long arm, impale) and can hold zones long long time. Lb is also top 3 strongest duel/brawl heroes. And cheery at the top, lb health pool is highest in the game (+30hp more than most of the cast), meanig he can sobe trade his way to victory. 400ms top light from neutral is also strong shutdown tool and neutrals many heroes openers (kensei, valkyrie, nuxia ect).

@tanks608

4 жыл бұрын

Ilari Hiltunen ok parry is literally what the class is designed around so he should have a strong parry punish since that is the one thing he is designed to do. I would also say the large health pool makes up for the extremely low amount of hyper armor on anything but the shove. I will admit the shove on block was cheesy as hell and was happy to see it go. Our chain offense might be safe but it is also super predictable as well.

"You can't thrust with a mace" > Total War wants to know your location

@Bizasbusiness

4 жыл бұрын

u r confusing video games with reality ..

@123456gordon

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bizasbusiness Was a joke my dude, I know you can't thrust with a mace.

@goreobsessed2308

4 жыл бұрын

you can thrust with a mace and that shit would hurt if unarmored. it would basically be a pomel strike.

@mohammadtausifrafi8277

4 жыл бұрын

You can, not as well as with a sword or spear though, unless the mace has a spike on its top, which at least some did.

@robertharris6092

4 жыл бұрын

Or just have a spike on top of the mace.

Could u make a new video on this. Most of these weapons got patched

10 Mace 1:06 9 Warhammer 3:24 8 Axe 4:13 7 Falchion 5:50 6 Arming Sword 7:26 5 Longsword 8:42 4 Estoc 10:14 3 Bill 12:13 2 Spear 13:43 HM Lance 14:53 1 Pole Axe 15:37

@ian-rr9to

2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@poopa854

2 жыл бұрын

@@ian-rr9to my pleasure

@Beetlejuice2959

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks this tells me it is an incomplete list

@markt2609

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@juliusspiik8498

2 жыл бұрын

Bill must be One hell of a unit of a man to Score 3rd place

Actually some Maces and warhammers (one handed hammers) had metal "rods" and something like a small handguard and weapons like these would totally devastate an unarmored opponent. Usually warhammers have a spike on the other side and some maces were either spiked or had like sharpened blades. Also these would be more capable of breaking bones than swords. Imagine hitting someone in a chest, head or even his spine, that would be devastating. Broken ribs can damage some internal organs, headshot could mean basically instant death, spine could "paralize" someone, even hitting a limb could break them which could immobilize enemies.

@kingpopaul

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much what I'm thinking, maces will deal a lot of blunt damage, if that energy can go through an armored/padded opponent it will be efficient vs someone unarmored. Though I agree that it is less forgiving if you miss anything.

@guyguy7953

3 жыл бұрын

I think the idea is how well it would be in the given scenario. If an opponent had a pole axe and was unarmored (therefore free to move quickly) a mace is almost as good as holding a stick.

@oathlords7989

3 жыл бұрын

@@guyguy7953 Yeah, even a good club can kill someone with the right hit. The problem is delivering the hit. The warhammer is a devastating weapon, but it's also short and unbalanced.

@corrat4866

3 жыл бұрын

Thing is, most hits where glancing blows.

@buiphamthanhvinh8265

3 жыл бұрын

Guys you don't get the point, clubs and maces are not only have less range than the arming sword(yes, I checked) and slowet due to being head-heavy, even with a handguard, people would be swinging and redelivering that same slash at you mulitple times before you get to attack. You will get decapited or cut and get some major infections, broken bones and inbleeding is definitely serious but unless it's the ribs or the head, which to be honest is the hardest thing to strike on the enemy (except when you're using a polearm), decapitation and/or open wounds are much more lethal

i have to disagree with the inclusion of the pike. a spear is good, or my favorite, a glaive, is good for this spot in the list, but pike is a weapon used in a battlefield, in a war. in a war scenario its really really effective, but in a 1 vs 1 duel, its not as effective as the spear because a pike is much bigger and thus harder to maneuver and because of it your opponent can get past the tip much more easily than they would against a spear. and once your opponent is past the tip, you are completely defenseless.

@yesok4244

4 жыл бұрын

yep, right

@misterfluffkins2161

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree with this. Rush in, control the tip, and the pike is useless. That's a strategy that all the other weapons can do, so the pike would lose and doesn't belong on this 1v1 list imo. Especially if the person rushing has armor.

@joelout

3 жыл бұрын

Getting past the tip is not that easy unless you have a shield. The pike pack alot of thrust so knocking it to the side is far from easy, and even if you succeed an experienced polearm user will retract his weapon before you're in a position to push any advantage. The speed that you can circle the tip at is really fast and varying between high and low thrust will keep any sword or axeman on constant defence. The dynamic changes greatly is you throw in a shield tho. Basically any competent swordsman/axeman will beat a pole user 1v1 with a shield. But they would get slaughtered in a group fight. The shield is the real mvp in a 1v1.

I would have to say; Light Saber. After all that stuff happened a long time ago...

The mace part of the pollaxe was more frequently used as a feint, where you brought it down and thrust with the spear, because it was very hard to hit with it, and had so much power that they would have to either dodge, or block.

After watching a *LindyBeige* video on duelling, I've seen that using a spear two handed is the best duelling weapon for anyone who hasn't had extensive sword training(either/both you or opponent) or if your opponent hasn't got a shield. Since this scenario doesn't allow you to know if your opponent has armour, but does let you know he can't have a shield, I think either a spear or some other stabbing polearm would be best.

@BrianHuynhPersonal

4 жыл бұрын

As well as just using it as a giant lever can get though armor due to how long it is

@Kirk9019

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, most polearms have a spike on the end at least. Halberd and pollaxe come to mind

Top 10 Most Effective Medieval Weapons: 1. Pommels

@soulnomad5231

4 жыл бұрын

Come on Metatron when we going to get that Top 10 Pommel video

@Soinetwa

4 жыл бұрын

ye we have to disliek this videobecasue he completely disregarded the range advantage pommels give you even over the longest mentioned here dependign on the shape of the pommel you can choose between extreme speed, mass or a bleeding condition applier on hit to finish off your opponent ..also.. why hasnt he mentioned crossbows? honestly category range.. yep... medieval?.. sure works against armored and unarmored.. yea.. kinda.. not a guaranteed one shot kill but.. it is an medieval weapon after all^^

@lowlandnobleman6746

4 жыл бұрын

Irish ring pommel is the best. It’s hollow so you can put smaller pommels inside it for extra stopping power

@handsomejack3444

4 жыл бұрын

You cant end him rightly otherwise.

@ousamadearu5960

4 жыл бұрын

1. Holy hand Grenade

I'm still salty that the mace is so low on the list.

@crazylegoman

3 жыл бұрын

Maces look great and are fun to swing, but once you've had to detangle clothing, skin, womens' hair, guard dogs, harps, venetian blinds, bicycle tires, extension cords, saltwater taffy and the innards of VCR tapes from the head of one, you realize that they're just such a hassle.

@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx

3 жыл бұрын

@@crazylegoman Nah maces and warhammers should be at the top of the list.

@matthewwriter9539

3 жыл бұрын

...who brings VCR tapes with them onto the battlefield??? Near the battlefield to record the battlefields to record the fight maybe...

@BenAC75

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewwriter9539 My thoughts exactly.

@bizybliztaverage9414

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh the locater in Rattay killed me with a goddam flanged mace

It’s also very important to note with blunt weapons the effect of hydrostatic shock which below 2800fps won’t cause instant incapacitating effects (that’s why rifles do way more damage than pistols) but will cause effects that will be incapacitating over time (internal bleeding that kind of thing) in actual fact for the most part bladed weapons are significantly worse at actually flat out incapacitating someone when compared to a heavy blunt weapon it’s like comparing a shotgun to a handgun both are deadly but one has way more power

@mikejensen6684

Жыл бұрын

Won’t cause instant incapacitating effects, eh? I think that’s a bit subjective

@adarvirohfanbelarus8889

11 ай бұрын

Nah, generally cut weapons vs light armor are much better cut hand, throat, aven detach limbs. Blunt damage have to be aimed right to the skull to work.

@gamerbg294

11 ай бұрын

Hydrostatic shock is a very dubious theory, moreover, I've seen an article on this subject in which it argued that pistols would also be capable of causing hydrostatic shock. However, the effectiveness of the rifles does not come from the hydrostatic shock, but rather from the effect of the temporary cavity and the elastic limit of the tissues, so it seems when a projectile reaches around 2000 FPS (it is certainly known that this phenomenon occurs when the projectile has a speed of at least 2200 FPS) the temporary cavity expansion is so fast that make the tissues break causing even greater damage (no wonder rifles usually have an exit hole larger than the entry hole, even though they not usually use hollow point ammo).

I feel as though you're giving maces a bum rap, honestly. I'd rather be cut by a blade any day of the week than potentially have my bones shattered by a club/mace. Armor or no armor, they're effective.

@ITBEurgava

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. All the broken knuckles, or ribs, or collarbones, or knees... Worst come to worst, shattered bones stabs you from within your own body. Imagine that.

@LeonM4c

4 жыл бұрын

@@ITBEurgava internal bleeding indeed, plus even a light tap with a mace can be painful. I have a bronze spiked mace head from Tod's workshop that I mounted. I let it once gently fall from a few inches onto the top of my gloved hand, hurt like a mother fucker, can't imagine getting hit with it in anger.

@jackvernian7779

4 жыл бұрын

unlike blade, mace won't turn you into a river of blood ending the fight in seconds.

@ITBEurgava

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackvernian7779 Depends where the cut/stab lands. People can continue fighting while wounded after all.

@LeonM4c

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackvernian7779 true enough, but there exists period artwork depicting sword fights where both parties often have several cuts all over them

The real answer is a flail snail. That's why they were everywhere in art.

@malahamavet

4 жыл бұрын

You watched that video about why knights fight snails didn't you?

@SrMikicas

4 жыл бұрын

I think those might be one of the first memes of history!

@Mortablunt

4 жыл бұрын

@@SrMikicas Humanity: shitposters springing eternal.

I've always been fascinated by the Spear/pike and I'm so glad it made it tto number 2 on this list.

I’m a big fan of the common Claw Hammer, similar to the Mace. Another of my favourites is the Hatchet. Short throw and weight gives a good incapacitating blow and I have one near my front door to this day, always.

#1: The Poleaxe *laughs in Lawbringer*

@firelordsusan555

4 жыл бұрын

Lawgiver laughs in incendiary, high ex, stun, tracer, rapid fire ect ect.

@Cafferssss

4 жыл бұрын

@@firelordsusan555 different reference.

@aaaaaaahaaaaaaahah6530

4 жыл бұрын

Kensei 😠👊

@savianrivera6831

3 жыл бұрын

Lawdaddy gang

@luisleiva2504

Жыл бұрын

laughs in a inbalanced weapon.

The most effective weapon all time is the hug! Turns enemies into friends.

@ApothecaryTerry

4 жыл бұрын

Also, you can stab them in the back!

@legendaryplayz394

3 жыл бұрын

But what if they don’t want to be friends and stab you

@Ynffy

3 жыл бұрын

@@legendaryplayz394 You hug first and hold them until they starve.

@fullmetalboomer8089

3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean diplomacy?

@Ynffy

3 жыл бұрын

@@fullmetalboomer8089 Not clingy enough!

1:51 And by that logic you'd also shatter arms/ribs/vertebrae with the thing. Seems like a pretty dope weapon regardless of armor.

Great list, well done. Loved the artwork and actual museum examples as well. Bravo 👏🏻

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@metatronyt

4 жыл бұрын

I'm using the code myself to get myself more of their rings so 1 I do love bronze 2 the shop is really cool

@armyof2ninjas381

4 жыл бұрын

@@metatronyt cool can't wait to see it later if you show it off

@metatronyt

4 жыл бұрын

@Rex Francorum Ahahah he does indeed :)

The poleaxe is my favourite medieval weapon and I always enjoy seeing it get mentioned!

7:07 "According to real historical artworks, there were actually warriors with their hands swapped. They would eventually have been defeated by the people with the hands we know today."

@rumpelstilzz

2 жыл бұрын

underrated comment

@AAron-gr3jk

2 жыл бұрын

Rakshasa were real! :) hands swapped shape-shifters are among us !

Hi Metatron, I really love your videos on historical weapons. Thanks for sharing them with us. I would like to ask if you can make a video on the concept of the elements associated with weapons. For instance which weapons best suit the essence of fire (i.e. aggressive slashes); which best suits the essence of lightning (i.e. speedy thrusts); which best suits the essence of stone / earth (i.e. strong blows), etc. Thanks in advance!

Against Mat a good pair of running shoes would probably the only "weapon" that could save my arse.

When you showed the ring I thought you were getting married, almost had a heart attack

Personally, I think artillery was the great decider of the middle ages. It ended the hundred year war in France's favour and it made previously unconquerable castles vulnerable and ended simple mass attacks easy advantage.

@luisleiva2504

Жыл бұрын

shooting a pellet and wait 5 minutes for recharging is VERY INEFECTIVE against a axe with a shield

Well researched, full of facts and insight, and presented in a most entertaining fashion. Bravo young man-Outstanding production! A fan in Texas.

I would expect the hammer to be a bit higher. Especially since there is evidence that many were 2 handed. Many of the examples on display we're rehafted in the 19th century with no consideration to the original configuration.

Meh, who wants to get that close? Just stand off with a longbow.

@markberlanga6375

4 жыл бұрын

a loaded crossbow from midrange willnot give an armored opponet reaction time to dodge n can defeat armor or stun with a head shot and if you miss can be effective as a club and bolts are still effective against armor when you have tackled them and are on top of them as they act like a dagger getting through gaps sad that metatron did not include ranged weapons but did include pikes. silly actually as the weight of a 3 to 6 meter pike gives such littler control and they still only have an actual 1 meter thrust range ie I can stand just with a pikes range paryy it and essentially walk or jog downthe length of the weapon with no fear of it after I have parried the point or grabbed the shaft . ie the pike is a horrible weapon for a duel .

@Squarelinx

3 жыл бұрын

@@markberlanga6375 crossbow bolts can't really go through armour all that well

@ataeren4246

3 жыл бұрын

Better trick a scorpion with a halberd loaded into it

@deimos7784

3 жыл бұрын

Musket beats all!

@ataeren4246

3 жыл бұрын

@@deimos7784 *musket misses its only bulet* oh fuck

The wings on a partisan are not for deflecting sword blows.Unless I am very mistaken, it is to prevent your opponent (or better, a boar or bear) from coming all the way down your spear to reach you after sticking you. Look at the difference between a standard spear and a boar spear. I could be wrong, but that is what I was always taught.

During mideval times in China there was something called the fire lance, which is basically firecrackers atached to a spear. You can use it to burn your opponent, and they'll try to keep themselves away from you due to the heat.

@URMyNewTV

7 ай бұрын

Everything changed when the firecracker nation attacked.

Pollaxe does not behave like an axe, but more like a rich man’s quarter staff. It is by far the most complicated fighting system out of all pole arms because it uses leverage: you generally hold it with the pointy butt end toward the enemy, then you commit with your head end and try to use leverage to tackle down your opponent or to jab the head end through the weak points (mostly armpit and inside of upper arm as far as modern sparring goes). I recommend one to checkout videos of pollaxe demo or pollaxe lesson by Arne Koets.

@jackvernian7779

4 жыл бұрын

isn't that the armoured poleaxe vs poleaxe system? What prevents you from using it in a halberd framework if facing someone who doesn't have a polearm/is unarmored?

@thomaszhang3101

4 жыл бұрын

Jack Vernian good point. I imagine the baiting technique works quite well too (both armored or not) - you swing it over your shoulder while within striking range of your opponent, suggesting him to take advantage of your vulnerability. If he commits, you move our of range with footwork and swing down your pollaxe, which should just reach him because you are holding it like an axe.

@fartdonkey8290

4 жыл бұрын

Your mom gives me a quarterstaff

@fartdonkey8290

4 жыл бұрын

@Colin Cleveland different strokes for different folks

@luisleiva2504

Жыл бұрын

fight with a poleaxe: just stab with both hands and swing a mace with a VERY LARGE pole. DONT USE WHIT LEVERAGE. For that case, use a Halberd

The halbard has always been one of my favorites.

As a longtime fan of the guandao I am so so glad to see all the polearms/spears/large pointy sticks at the top of the list

@orangeyellow9695

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a fan of the Chinese halberd (ji), the one that combines a spear with a dagger axe.

Now, time to play dark souls armed with all this new knowledge

@gabredoro2

2 жыл бұрын

there are no pole axes in ds :(

@haze6647

2 жыл бұрын

He is like the gaming nerd great teacher.

@haze6647

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabredoro2 dont worry, the developer definetely gonna add it after watching this.

2 жыл бұрын

Crescent axe is exactly that isnt it?

@SNOWDEVlL

2 жыл бұрын

Lothric longsword is all you need

I was in the middle of a political debate Raph, but I got the notification and obviously I'm like. "Listen mate, Metatron is talking about swords, so your political mumbo jumbo can wait"

@borgue

4 жыл бұрын

Cringe is a timeless weapon.

@londiniumarmoury7037

4 жыл бұрын

@@borgue Saying Do you have a problem with something I said?

@skystorm569

4 жыл бұрын

Politics is a massive red herring.

@londiniumarmoury7037

4 жыл бұрын

The point of my OP was the swords are more important.

@Astropeleki

4 жыл бұрын

@@londiniumarmoury7037 Let me guess, something about the British general elections 🙃?

"langes Messer" literally translates to "long Knife". It's German btw

@imsezq0915

2 жыл бұрын

Der kriegshammer auch

I remember looking at battle ready swords online once trying to figure out what might be a really useful, practical sword. I took a big liking to a modern hybrid of a cutlass/sabre.

Metatron, are you ever going to make a "followup" to this video where you're doing the exact same thing BUT taking a shield into account? Also you could make 3 tiers for a total of 10 entries, based on the type of shield (small like buckler, medium like a round shield or kite, and large like a scutum).

@MyCommentsRMaturelol

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm not going into a duel without a shield, and I hate shields.

Hey man, just rewatched your Roman armies vs Japanese armies vid and you talked about how you would make a Roman armies vs Samurai armies later, any update on that? Also would in general love to see more of that kinda thing.

the axe should also be covering range partly since it's easier to throw then a sword

@anonymous5t565

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the type of axe

@tristinanderson6320

3 жыл бұрын

And if you miss or don't kill you've disarmed yourself.

@robwright1286

3 жыл бұрын

@@tristinanderson6320 Very risky strat for sure

@theonlineanimal6009

2 жыл бұрын

That's only if you can do it well. And it's not your only weapon.

@jgappy5643

2 жыл бұрын

False! It all depends on your skills in throwing pommels.

Very well thought out and quite educational. Thank you.

personally would 100% choose a Bec de Courbin or the Billhook. I feel like you under emphasized the actual cutting and armor penetrating ability of the billhook in particular, since that's what it was designed for - it was a foot-soldiers only weapon frequently and they were renowned for mowing down foot-soldier and knight alike.

I am a big fan of 1.Mace 2.Pole Axe How I would have made it better: Mace:Use some mechanics like -Add some spikes that if you rotate the head of the club it will release them to make it No Armour effective and If you rotate the head of the club again spikes go in and make it Armour effective. Also close corder combat at the handle you can rotate it to make it from 80 cm to 50 cm ect. Haldebier it's pretty balanced.

I would guess the most versatile weapons such as the spear or longsword would do the best. If it's a duel the weapon has to be nimble or possibly be able to be wielded for a prolonged period of time. Heavier weapons would require more strength and stamina. The spear and long sword have decent range, are good against unarmoured, can kite shorter ranged axes or machetes and might be ok against armour. With a spear you can thonk a guy to the helmet a couple of times.

@Santisima_Trinidad

4 жыл бұрын

Whilst being able to use the weapon for a long period of time gives you advantage during a drawn out duel, if you pick a longsword or esker intending a long, drawn out duel, and they come along with a poleaxe (pollaxe for some) intending to crush your skull within the first five minutes, you're at a huge disadvantage. Or, if you pick the same weapons and the opponent simply has more stamina than you, when you're exhausted, he'll be less exhausted and able to press the advantage more.

@lowlandnobleman6746

4 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of that old video Metatron did on longsword vs sword and shield. If I remember right, he said when he spars with sword and shield against longsword, he usually does better. That was a while ago though.

@RayTC

4 жыл бұрын

The poleaxe can outnimble a sword with its queue.

Love this vid! Very informative

If you read Terry Pratchett’s Discworld series, Vimes always mentions that farmers and common people are well armed. The bill developed from an agricultural implement for example. The Lance became effective only after after the stirrup was invented during the Dark Ages. Before that mounted troops could be unhorsed easily. The Romans didn’t have stirrups.

had to fight against matt easten LMAO, Definatly the pole hammer lol

7:32 I just realised what this Painted Seen is. Its about the Battle of David and Goliath from the Bible. Told By Medieval Artists. :) It's a Nice find.

@statarama

3 жыл бұрын

thats very cool actually, I love how they show two parts of the scene like a proto comic book haha

A pole arm although great when used in formation could be problematic when used by a single combatant due to the fact that if the point or head of the weapon is deflected or grabbed it's very easy to then counter and rush in on a vulnerable and largely defenseless opponent. I'd go for the long sword myself, very nimble which aids in both offense and defense and it's not particularly cumbersome, definitely the most versatile for the given scenario.

@jeremymullens7167

2 жыл бұрын

KZread expert due to lindybeige( really know nothing just going to basically parrot his video which you can watch) It’s hard to deflect a spear with a sword because the spear has more leverage and in general will win that fight. Swords win if you get inside the spear point quickly but that’s easier said than done and you can move the point back and use it close range too. General rule I’ve learned is two handed spear beats sword on average without shield. Sword and shield beat spear 1 on 1 and lose in formation.

@chroma6947

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremymullens7167 First hand accounts of combat say otherwise, charles ewart at waterloo parried a few lances but he was using a backsword. Medieval swords are thin in width near the end.

@orangeyellow9695

2 жыл бұрын

@@chroma6947 there is an account of a quarterstaff user beating more than 4 swordsmen. Long sticks beat short sticks in most situations, all things being equal. The only way to beat the long stick is to have a big board accompanying your short stick. Or throw your pommel. Pommel-throw always works.

@MyCommentsRMaturelol

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I use poles a lot. The only reason to use it in a duel is having fun dying. You get one free shot then they get 10 free shots. If they have a shield you dont even get a shot. Slightly longer than their range is all you need. Sword op

@MyCommentsRMaturelol

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremymullens7167 it's fairly difficult to time a block for a spear thrust. Its incredibly easy if you have a shield. Idfk what he meant about leverage, because it works against you with a spear. Just like any bind, the spear is using the weak end, and the sword gets to use the strong, right next to the handle. The lever is useful for swinging big shots. It's horrible for trying to manipulate enemy weapons. Source: doing it.

This is kinda late, but I think I would place the mundane spear at the top spot, and halberd as second. My reasoning for this is how easy it is to train someone to use a spear. Someone who's never touched one before can be trained to be competent at using a spear both alone and as part of a formation in a single day (thrusting, slashing), whereas I imagine the halberd would take a bit more time to master all of the techniques (thrusting, slashing, hacking, entangling, pulling, unentangling).

I would choose a Lucerne Hammer/bec d' corbin. All the blunt force trauma of a warhammer, with the added reach of a polearm/poleaxe with some stabby bits.

@jackvernian7779

4 жыл бұрын

fellow appreciator of long hammers I see

@SMJSmoK

4 жыл бұрын

Lucerne Hammer - my Dark Souls reflex intensifies! :-D

@santiagotorrezsegarra7790

4 жыл бұрын

i mean its hard to kill someone in armor with a blade, while its still easy to kill a guy with a metal stick.

@gregpartridge7554

4 жыл бұрын

Two reasons I would say the pollaxe still beats it: the spike/hammer on the striking ends of the lucerne hammer or bec-de-corbin are both primarily anti-armor weapons, while the axe/hammer on the pollaxe are alternately good against unarmored and armor, so it has better versatility. Second, the pollaxe tends to be made a bit shorter than most polearms, so while they're specialized for fighting in formation and clumsier in single combat, it's specialized to a maneuverable length for dueling a single opponent like in this scenario. There's still some variation depending on whether you and/or your opponent are armored, of course (perhaps if you're unarmored [and thus need to keep your opponent at distance] and your opponent is armored, the hammer is better), but I think the pollaxe is better in a larger range of scenarios.

@bloodypine22

4 жыл бұрын

Those two are classed as the same weapon. A pollaxe doesn't need an axe blade to be a pollaxe. Medieval fight manuals didn't differentiate between then.

Wouldn't history dictate that spears are the best weapon?

@LeslieMRichardson

4 жыл бұрын

Nah - spears lost out to both polearms and pikes. Spears *generally* require formations; in a 1-v-1 against polearms, they tend to lose. Pikes pretty much *require* formations, in which setting they trump both spears and polearms, due to the reach advantage. While the spear is teh dominant battlefield weapons throughout most of history, polearms & pikes beat them during the eras they co-existed.

@skystorm569

4 жыл бұрын

@@LeslieMRichardson spears typically ARE polearms.

@PSquared-oo7vq

4 жыл бұрын

@Rex Francorum I like your analogy. Spears are the bog-basic weapon. Bills are poor man's halberds (but still very good). Lucern hammers / bec de corbins were the ultimate refinements, being made for (rich) men wearing heavy armor, to be used against men wearing heavy armor.

@LeslieMRichardson

4 жыл бұрын

@@skystorm569 Nope. A spear is primarily thrusting, with the option of slashing. Polearms - glaive, halberd, etc - have both thrusting and slashing, but also have a much heavier head, allowing for impact swings (similar to axes, hammers and maces).

@jayjay101hjk

4 жыл бұрын

@@LeslieMRichardson Well it generally agreed that a person using a sword needs to be much more skilled than a spear user based purely on the advantage that reach gives. So in this case with two equally skilled opponents if you don't know your opponents arms or armor a spear would be a safe bet.

Wonderful selection of photos, especially of the estocs! By the way, there were also one-handed estocs. In fact, there's actually one in the Wallace Collection. Scholagladiatoria has a video about it. And what... not even so much as a mention of the dagger?? Perhaps I missed it...

I really like halberds because of that hook they’ve got. Hooking my opponent and potentially throwing them onto the ground is really appealing to me

If I had my private medieval army I would have train them for 3 years gymnastics Cardio and Strength and also Fencing which helps them a lot. Weapons I would have used which existed back then would have been: -Maces -Pole Axe -Shields Range weapons -English Longbow Cavalry -Haldeblier for every type of cavalry Heavy weapons: -Heavy Crossbow -Catapult -Trebuchet IT would make them all Elite soldiers

@f1r3hunt3rz5

3 жыл бұрын

*Halberdier

@toastedjam1470

3 жыл бұрын

Did Morningstarstars with the chains in em exists back then cause they would fit here well

@scottphillips2870

3 жыл бұрын

So no spears?

@zombiehunter5923

3 жыл бұрын

The best thing to do to your army back then was to treat them right and good And your people or kingdom too Because your armys Loyalty Was the most important thing Some times armies switch sides Or kill they own leaders

@MaxSafeheaD

2 жыл бұрын

How do you wield a halberd and hold the reins of a horse?

Last time I was this early. Melotron was uploading daily!

The mace could still crumple an unarmored enemy and the way you attack with it, getting a solid hit could easily be an instant kill.

I like how you put the weapons in a specific situation for this video.

Just wanted to mention that even though I agree with everything on this list I would have put the mace and war hammer in the armored and unarmored zone because regardless if your are in full plate armor or a gambeson if you get hit with a pointed solid steel block your going down.

One utility he didn't mention which I think needs to be said is the safety advantage of a thrusting orientated weapon. Thrusting a weapon obviously requires a backwards wind-up to increase momentum, which if you have the range of a spear or bill, or even a longsword, means you don't have to give up your defence for. With a slashing weapon like a glaive or a falchion, or any weapon that requires outwards wind-up to be effective (like an axe or mace) you are opening yourself up, casting away defence for improved offence. Plus thrusting has advantage over slashing regardless of armour (not to say thrusting is capable of piercing any armour it's just better at penetrating than slashing).

@wagfinpis

4 жыл бұрын

You might have to argue some of the particulars of this scenario with Miyamoto Musashi.

@Biden_is_demented

4 жыл бұрын

But slashing wounds are more debilitating to the opponent. You cut tendons, arteries, muscle,etc. A puncture wound needs to be in certain particular places of the body to be effective. A puncture to an arm or leg will not stop an opponent, but a slash might, as it hits tendons, muscle, etc.

@KyussSpeed-sg5je

4 жыл бұрын

@@Biden_is_demented You are aware that swords are not needle thin, right? A thrust from a sword can sever tendons, arteries etc. To say otherwise is foolish on your part.

@Biden_is_demented

4 жыл бұрын

They are not needle thin, but the wounds are nonetheless punctures. Especially from swords designed to go through armor, that are very pointy. To sever an artery your thrust needs to hit the immediate vicinity of the artery, and even then it is up to luck. A slash has more surface area, making it easier to hit a vital point. If you slash across a leg, you are bound to cut something important. You will be hard pressed to make a sword thrust strong enough to go through the stomach from front to back like in the movies. Even if it did, in an unarmored opponent, you would be left with internal bleeding, and a very slow death. While a slash across the stomach will leave you holding your entrails. It only takes a cut an inch deep to open your entire stomach area (unless you are a fat ass). It doesn´t take a genius to see which wound is the more debilitating. Just make a thought exercise. Imagine you are run through by a long sword, and imagine if you were able or not to continue the fight in any capacity. And then do the same, but this time picture your insides are pouring out, and you are bleeding much faster. Will you continue the fight, or use your hands to keep your feet from tripping on your intestines? If you say the former, you are a damn liar, and i need not waste my breath any further.

@KyussSpeed-sg5je

4 жыл бұрын

@@Biden_is_demented Lol you're obviously wayyy to up your own arse to argue in any capacity. Have fun with that lie you're telling yourself though.

you should make a list for the most effective weapon for each of those scenarios you just listed. Which weapon is best for a duel, which is best for formation fighting, etc..

Very informative and nicely done video.

Arming swords are my favorite. Especially the earlier cutting ones. I don’t much like the really point stabby ones.

@lowlandnobleman6746

4 жыл бұрын

Which ones are the type 13s again? I always get those confused with type 10s for some reason.

I really like this video, that being said I feel like using an Estoc effectively like the author describes would require a lot more skill than something easier to use, like an axe. Idk how confident you guys are in your ability to precisely stab a man in armor in combat but I figure it would be more difficult than swinging something like a regular sword.

@cosmicostrich3657

3 жыл бұрын

Just upgrade dex and you'll be fine

Beautiful bro. Just beautiful logical explanation.

Amazing..so many types.

I think you skipped over one very important factor: What armour am I wearing? When I look at poleaxe techniques it looks as though there's little you can do with a poleaxe to parry swift cuts from a sword or thrusts from a spear, especially to the arms, which matters very little if you're wearing full plate, but could be a huge problem if you're just wearing normal clothing. Now I'm not saying the poleaxe is a bad defensive weapon, as it can clearly parry pretty much any strike that would still pose a threat to a knight in armour, but it doesn't seem to be that good at parrying those swifter cuts that an armoured knight could ignore anyway. Also, I haven't held a poleaxe myself so I might be wrong here, but based on how it is usually held it looks as though the poleaxe is the one polearm that doesn't actually have (much of) a reach advantage over something like a longsword, as you seem to use the pole more for leverage than for range. If I know I'm going unarmoured into this fight, the poleaxe would go down a few spots on my list as I feel I would be at a major disadvantage against the longsword and spear if even the list and swift cuts and thrusts pose a serious threat, the longsword would go a couple steps up for it's parrying capacity and the fact that it would stil pose a decent threat against an armoured foe, a polearm along the lines of the bill or halberd would occupy number 1 followed by the spear (assuming all those polearms share n1) as their reach and speed would be essential to keeping me alive and I would throw the mace completely off of this list if only I knew what other weapon would take its place as I feel like it would throw defense out the window to use a mace (or warhammer and axe for that matter) without the armour or shield to compensate for it's lackluster defensive capabilities. If I am going to be decently armoured (gambeson and/or mail) but my arms/hands are still exposed, spear would go down a bit as the safety of its reach and speed is no longer as necessary and poleaxe would go up a few steps, but still not back to n1. I am still most likely to pick a bill-like polearm followed by a longsword, both of which I would have slightly more faith in should my opponent be wearing armour while neither leaves my arms too exposed. Maces and company would be back on the list, but they'd still be pretty low as the arms would still be in danger with their short reach and lack of hand protection. If I know I'm going to be fully armoured, screw speed and reach I'm going for the hardest hitter I can get my hands on: the poleaxe is back to n1 in all its glory. As I stated above I could still use it to defend against any major blows that might still put me at risk, and in fact I believe the poleaxe due to it's weight and leverage is more suited than anything other than a shield for parrying those heavy strikes, but I would also have the offensive power to take out my oppenent with *relative* ease regardless of what armour he might or might not be wearing. Maces axes and warhammers would also be higher than swords and maybe even spears on the list in this case, as their lack of defensive ability won't matter nearly as much, and it would be a serious threat against any opponent, while the sword and spear's ability to deflect even those swift cuts to your hand with decent reliability as well as their reach would be made largely obsolete due to the armour. Lastly, if I also (for whatever reason) don't know what armour I will be wearing I would just assume the worst and choose my weapon as though I were unarmoured. tl'dr: in addition to your ratings for effectiveness against (un)armoured, I think you should also have ratings for effectiveness when the wielder himself is (un)armoured as some weapons are far more dependent on their wielder wearing armour than others.

@ltsandes

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for providing an extra clean and clear analysis on something which should absolutely be taken into account. Your explanation is more than enlightening. One of the greatest comments out there, pretty well said!

Metatron: Noble ones Caps: Number ones Me: Eh, same thing

Excellent post, thank you for sharing.

I like how he presents the video as if we are consulting him for weapon advice in our own medieval conflicts

imagine a full swing of a halberd against any armour, your getting a proper kilajoules hit to the body.

@jackvernian7779

4 жыл бұрын

*tens of kilojoules easily.

@duchessskye4072

4 жыл бұрын

It doesn't do much unless it is on the head.

@jackvernian7779

4 жыл бұрын

@@duchessskye4072 I beg to disagree completely, unless you're talking full plate. In that case, yes, only neck/head/shoulder/foot strikes count, otherwise it would be a glancing blow.

@duchessskye4072

4 жыл бұрын

I was talking plate.

@jackvernian7779

4 жыл бұрын

@@duchessskye4072 full plate or partial?

Just a suggestion for future lists like this (which I really enjoy 👍) perhaps cost effectiveness, a Bill and Mace are really cheap to make compared to some of the other weapons, also perhaps skillset could be a consideration? I would have thought it's a lot easier to learn how to use some weapons, i.e Mace- bash the crap out of your opponent 😉 as opposed to a Sword which really does require alot of skill to be wielded properly, if not you can even injure yourself! 🗡🏥 just a thought, keep up the fantastic work 👍

@luisleiva2504

Жыл бұрын

a spear is even more cheap than a mace. just a dagger in a stick.

any Suiss designs on that poleaxe?? preferably one with a toothpick sheath

Just a question. The point to the list is best in 1v1 combat with an unknow opponent so your not in formation. So wouldn't you loose the benefit of the range and defensive characteristics of a pollaxe? As if you miss with your first thrust/hit or they are able to brush it aside and get with in your reach/guard then you would be at an instant disadvantage. Btw I'm no expert on this subject at all. Just curious.

17:00 Wait, wait,wait! Against Matt Easton? This changes the rule drastically. Did a legion of Spacemarines count a as a medieval weapon? No? Otherwise a horse sounds good to get some distance.

Pikes on formation is my favorite. Swiss pikes

@Doodoofart725

4 жыл бұрын

In a formation yes, terrible 1vs 1 though. I like swiss pikes too!

@bloodypine22

4 жыл бұрын

@Rex Francorum Going against a pike formation while using a zweihänder is suicide.

Which company makes the best poleaxe in your opinion? I looked at cold steels but it doesn’t have a spike. Which one would you recommend?

one thing he didn't mention about the longer weapons' is they are hard to use if someone gets in close to you so you would want to have a dagger as well with those