Some suggestions in the comments are questionable, but I think Ragavan very clearly should've been here.

@groundswelllegitcoffeeandb3810

11 ай бұрын

I guess this isn’t a commander video, because dockside extortionist would’ve made this list also.

@latonpfeiferhicks768

6 ай бұрын

@@groundswelllegitcoffeeandb3810Dockside would suck in literally every format other than commander

@BR4IN1N4J4R

6 ай бұрын

Dockside is one of those "fair outside of EDH, busted in EDH"

At this point I'm pretty convinced he pronounces names wrong on purpose to get a reaction and build engagement, just like SaffronOlive. Eldraine being pronounced Elaydrin sealed it Edit: I didn't mean to spark a debate in the replies. All I meant to do was point out an observation about a KZreadr that I like

@lachlank.8270

Жыл бұрын

Read the description

@Jacobthejewela

Жыл бұрын

He says it correctly when speaking about fervent champion in the top ten knights video. Around 11:07 in that video. I think you're right.

@Bacon574

Жыл бұрын

@@lachlank.8270 who cares if he’s a newbie. As a supposed MTG content creator, you have a responsibility to do your due diligence in at least pronouncing the names correctly. It takes away from the rest of the video. And makes him look like he actually doesn’t know what he’s talking about. How can you trust the rest of his info on the game is correct? If his script writers are so knowledgeable, why don’t they help him review the video first before releasing to the public? I feel like thats the bare minimum

@anannoyedpanda

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bacon574 Bruh it's KZread content. He's not going for a Nobel prize. You need to fucking relax and get your priorities straight lmfao. Second comment you've made I have had to call you out on for being a jerk about pronunciation in a KZread video.

@pitmaster226

Жыл бұрын

@@Bacon574 over time his pronunciation gets better. It’s not on purpose, look at the video on the guilds vs when he mentions them in the future.

I feel like I would've put ragavan and blood moon on this list rather than including Twin and Fires. I'd argue that while Moon isn't banned anywhere, it historically tends to be a pillar in higher power formats where you have access to things like Ancient Tomb and City of Traitors.

@colemanholth3740

Жыл бұрын

I also think that the more egregious modern-banned red card is Punishing Fires rather than Twin, which I could also see.

@moshladaan

Жыл бұрын

110% agree with Blood Moon on this list. It outright wins games on its own against certain matchups.

@superbaas8822

Жыл бұрын

@@moshladaan Only if those decks are playing such greedy mana based that they can't play under a Blood Moon. Where decks aren't so greedy and know how to properly function without an obscene mana base, Blood Moon is nearly blanked.

@lucamachadomendonca3676

Жыл бұрын

While it definetly is a pillar on high power formats, it technically os the opposite of broken, as it's more about punishing pushed mana bases than being powerful by itself

@jsum33

Жыл бұрын

All Blood Moon does is punish greedy mana bases. It keeps people honest. It's in no way, shape, or form broken.

What is more broken? The completely fair Fireblast or a 2/1 Monkey?

@chapmanandchapmanproductio974

Жыл бұрын

Yoooo this dude rocks !!!!! Socks!!!! BIG TIMEEEEEEE!!!!

@ukaszmozejko9984

Жыл бұрын

Ragavan dies to Fireblast so...

The fact that splinter twin is banned while ragavan isn't is just insane to me. Anyone who's played twin knows that casting it targeting an exarch is a real commitment. Without knowing your opponents hand you're more likely to get blown out than win the game. The monkey though? It's good in every single deck playing red. It needs no other synergistic cards to help it which takes a lot of the fun out of deck building

@kylelindsay2749

Жыл бұрын

And let's not get started on the Kikijiki snoop combo that's the exact same thing just 1 million times better Lol.

@chazzitz-wh4ly

9 ай бұрын

Card design since Twin got hit and the fact the new cards aren’t getting hit with bans, says all I need to know about the state of the game.

Price of Progress is a more broken burn spell than Fireblast. Also in terms of pure power, Lightning Bolt should probably be like #3 on this list lol

@moshladaan

Жыл бұрын

PoP is amazing, but by that logic anything that is hyper efficient should be on here. And this is reserved for broken cards. PoP isn't broken in the formats it is legal in IMO

@darthparallax5207

Жыл бұрын

Shock or Lightning Bolt: one of these must be the definition of fair, and in their existence go a long way towards defining unfair as "all else that is better than this"

@elijahjohnson1952

Жыл бұрын

Play basics

@mattmichael3310

Жыл бұрын

​@@darthparallax5207 both are fair. Doesn't exile, doesn't kill many important targets, but can go face.

@danlorett2184

Жыл бұрын

Lightning Bolt should not be on this list. It's very strong, it's a staple, it's nowhere near the top 10 strongest red cards. By far the most egregious omission is Blood Moon.

Splinter Twin and Simian Spirit Guide aren't broken by themselves and were both dirt cheap for a good while after printing. I remember buying Spirit Guides for $0.10 each and Splinter Twins at 3-for-$1. They sat in my decks and collection for some time before massively spiking to $20 each. I was quite happy to unload 13 Spirit Guides and 4 Splinter Twins once that happened.

@fernandobanda5734

Жыл бұрын

Spirit Guide is a pretty broken card. Out of all the free mana, it's instant speed an uncounterable, it asks nothing so it can always be a starter, it can be used before your first turn. When I'm playing Red Prison, SSG is THE card I want to open, especially on the draw.

@coreyroberson4550

Жыл бұрын

@@fernandobanda5734 It's a great card, and there's a reason why people love it and why it spiked. But by itself, it doesn't win the game. Answering the question "Is it worth a whole card to get one more mana?" will be entirely dependant on the deck/meta/format. If you pitch Spirit Guide to ramp a spell out sooner, only to have that spell countered (or your creature killed if it was a creature spell), your opponent gets a 2-for-1, and you may or may not be able to recover. Not every deck can afford to spend a card for a one-time mana boost. But when it works, it can be crazy good and help you outrace your opponent.

@fernandobanda5734

Жыл бұрын

@@coreyroberson4550 Obviously a fast mana card that gives you card disadvantage is going to be entirely dependent on where it's used. I'm just saying... as a fast mana that gives you card disadvantage, it's one of the better ones.

Fork, Ragavan, Jeska's Will, Dockside Extortionist all should be on the list or at least "honorable mentions"

@roguebanshee

Жыл бұрын

Those who doubt that Fork belongs have never tried casting it on something that just made their opponent flip the table like a Shahrazad.

@AcedSama

Жыл бұрын

Dockside and jeskas will are only potent in Commander. While Ragavan is a MONSTER. unlogical to see fires of invention and other stuff on the list (no doubt, strong card) but no Ragavan.

@baconsir1159

Жыл бұрын

A lot of those are just/mostly commander, Ragavan should 100% be here

@iankane3732

Жыл бұрын

Jeskas and dockside are only good in commander so nah, but ragavan for sure.

@Metallicity

Жыл бұрын

Reverberate has been Modern legal for a decade and has done literally nothing in all that time. Even in Standard it barely did anything, because it had one specific niche that it was never very good at. In the early years of the game, Fork was restricted for the same reason Regrowth was: it gave you more access to the actually good restricted cards in your deck. But even back then it did so far worse than Regrowth, and it's been quiet a few years since Regrowth itself has been even remotely seen as dangerous, so there are literally dozens of other red cards more worthy of mention over it.

Red gets one single piece of card or mana advantage: it gets banned

@danlorett2184

Жыл бұрын

Wow, the color filled to the brim with fast, efficient threats and burn spells would be OP if it also drew cards and made extra mana? No way man!

@Icameron259

Жыл бұрын

It still regularly gets treasure generators, and even some actual ritual effects like Irencrag Feat. Then for card advantage, after the release of MOM there will be Reckless Impulse and a functional reprint (Wrenn's Resolve) legal in the same standard, which if your deck is low curve is very often a straight up 2-CMC Draw 2. So I don't see your point. Most of the bans are just OP combo pieces, which is the same shit that always gets banned for every colour.

Dude, I started watching your WoW Channel than years later I found your D&D and now I saw the title on my KZread page and when I clicked it insta reconize your voice. Great work as always

I still remember when Ebay was filled with $1.20 x4 playsets of Splinter Twin. So, so many. I got one of them but if I could see the coming combo I'd have bought them all.

@Posesso

Жыл бұрын

ah, all those Lamborghinis you could have bought :)

@marcellachine5718

4 ай бұрын

I remember 4 dollar wheels, 12 dollar duals. 5 dollar LEDs, 1 dollar fows, 9 dollar sliver queen, and 6 dollar intuition. Man I wish I had the intuition to buy more of them.

Okay analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

The blue video should be like 50 cards

2:09 "Throne of Elaydrin."

I remember as a still novice magic player seeing Fires of Invention with other veteran MTG player on spoiler season and we both thought that card would be pretty niche and not that much powerful as we thought. We did not took into account being able to use activated abilities and then Kenrith decks started to dominate the standard. Oh how wrong we are when we evaluated this card.

Love the videos always have but I wonder what's the stronger pull the voice or the information. 😊

You should do video essays on top decks

Amazing!

This list has to be wrong. No blood moon or ragavan is definitely a mistake. I do agree with all the cards that are on this list being broken but there’s no way blood moon isn’t too 3 broken red cards. There’s just no way.

@darthparallax5207

Жыл бұрын

Blood Moon used to be maybe actually broken. Chaos Warp answers it fair and square when you're in a very rough position forced to beat it while under it and not completely prepared. There aren't many enchantment answers from only red mana that are good besides the specific case of Blood Moon, and there definitely used to be only 0 that met the criteria. But 1 is all it takes to turn Blood Moon from broken to just very good. There are reasonable ways to get out from Blood Moon under unfortunate circumstances, and Chaos Warp will basically never be bad because it will always be a fair Blood Moon answer.

@gnkstudios6138

Жыл бұрын

@@darthparallax5207 imo blood moon is still more broken than a few of these cards. Period. Chaos warp is another red card meaning your opponent has to be playing red to answer. And with this video being top 10 with no specifics to how the cards are broken (format, time period, relevance) it’s safe to say blood moon is definitely in the top 10 most broken red cards ever printed. Fires of invention is not nearly as punishing as blood moon is.

@real_drainer

Жыл бұрын

​@@darthparallax5207 chaos warp lmfao have you considered playing a real format?

@ukaszmozejko9984

Жыл бұрын

Another strong contender is Sneak Attack

@gnkstudios6138

Жыл бұрын

@@ukaszmozejko9984 omg how can I forget Sneak Attack. My first deck playing magic was sneak attack way back when it was in standard lol that card now is super busted. Broken is the word for that card

There are a lot of wild and wacky suggestions in the comments here, but a lack of Ragavan and Dockside, and choosing Fireblast (?!) instead seems like a wildly missed opportunity.

I feel like this list would change a lot if red also contained ways of cheating out instants and sorcery spells Can you imagine if Worldfire saw a lot of play similar to grislebrand because of it being cheated out?

And they say Blue can’t make friends, hello red lol

I still have an old red burn-deck here using fireblast. Combined with furnace of Rath and seal of fire as well as lightning bolt, it was more than capable of ruining a good list of other decks. Whenever you had 4 mountains and furnace in hand, the game was essentially over....

@andykapsar4667

Жыл бұрын

you forgot to toss in seismic assault for the land draws

Sad Aggro Noises

@TheJum

Жыл бұрын

Maybe this just opens up the lists: “Top 10 best (Color) Aggro Creatures” Which would also be a good opportunity to show off the best aggro creatures in colors like Blue or even Artifacts.

@themanalogs 10 infinite loops for the next video? Edit: (example) Exquisite Blood & Sanguine Bond with any of their "mimics"

I think the Splinter Twin ban was more because of Deceiver Exarch than Pestermite. They have the same ability that you want with Splinter Twin, but a 1/4 body compared to a 2/1 flyer removes Lightning Bolt as an answer/removal for the combo, which at the time was one of three premier removal spells (the others being Path and Abrupt Decay).

@christianroot6287

Жыл бұрын

its both, the infinite combo is why it got banned

What about Rituals and DRC / Ragavan?

How about Sneak Attack - it both completed Show and Tell + created it's own archetype in legacy. Ragavan and Fury changed Modern - for better or worse.

Fireblast made me remember of the oldie "thunderclap" card, which costs exactly half but does 1 less damage. If I understand correctly Fireblast is better because when you are burning your mountains you rather have that 1 extra damage per card, also 4 lightning bolts and 2 fireblast wins you the game with only 4 mountains.

this may sound pretty troupe, but id like a top 10 broken blue or black list

why why WHY using the new print of Wheel of Fortune? WHY

@corey2232

Жыл бұрын

I hate the art choices picked on a lot of these videos, especially when the classic ones are often so iconic

Good vid

This dude rocks

Goblin Recruiter is better than most of the cards on this list by a lot and about as good as Breach but worse than Wheel. It's nowhere near fair. It's broken as a fair card and a combo card.

@danlorett2184

Жыл бұрын

IMO I would go 1) wheel, 2) breach, 3) blood moon 4) recruiter/welder

The first red card to ever annoy me was runaway steam-kin, sure it's probably not good in most formats, but when it was in standard, it was the bane of my elemental tribal deck.

I'm very surprised Sneak Attack wasn't on the list.

@darthparallax5207

Жыл бұрын

If it were broken it would be bought out in original copies more. Reprints would be tanked either way but originals would more desired if it were actually busted like Ancient Tomb is. It's really good but for pre Modern formats 3 mana is a lot. There are a few different ways to get similar effects, like Show and Tell, Aluren, Birthing Pod, Survival of the Fittest, Tinker......Sneak Attack is very good but not very unique. That makes it less obviously broken: 1: there are better 2: even in color, some Goblin abilities can cheat costs 3: because it's not unique it's not absolutely must have 4: it's most famous deck, Sneak and Show, involves one of the other options you can play instead. 5: it is quite beatable and it's slow enough to cast that destroy answers are reasonable to cite as viable. It's not as bad as Survival which is awful because it races very well against answers because 2cmc is so harsh.

Gee I wonder where the mana from Simian spirit guide comes from

Goblin Grenade.

I'm surprised pyroblast wasn't in here.

Splinter Twin did nothing wrong and should be restored to Modern 🎉

@anannoyedpanda

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, we have it in explorer/pioneer through izzet creativity so I think youre right.

@sirrobot7784

Жыл бұрын

Twin wouldn’t see play if unbanned

@emanym

Жыл бұрын

@@sirrobot7784 all the more reason to unban it.

Goblin welder background was making me nauseous

Fear the wheel.

IMO twin isn’t strong enough for the list. Infamous for sure, but not top 10 most powerful.

We need an April 1st video of top 10 mispronunciations.

Top 10 keyword in magic (what is the most pawerfull)

i still don't think faithless looting should've been banned in modern. Hogaak and Golgari Grave Troll are the problem cards in graveyard decks not faithless looting. Also Ragavan should be at least #3 on this list.

No ragavan? I'm surprised

Great vid, the set for fires of Invention is pronounced El-Drain

Throne of a Laydrin? What the hell is a Laydrin?

@diogeneticist3585

Жыл бұрын

They've gotta slip in a mispronunciation somewhere!

@Merlewhitefire

Жыл бұрын

@@diogeneticist3585 Who does, the Laydrins? Are the Laydrins the ones responsible?

I have Dwarven recruiter in my Magda Commander deck. I abuse it using Maskwood Nexus. 😂 6:47

Dockside Extortionist should have gotten a mention. Its particularly lethal in commander and even moreso when the person flickers/copies it on the same turn as it appears (perhaps more than once too), unloads their whole hand and often has mana to spare to activate abilities, perhaps draw more cards and dump them too, etc. The Extortionist might even win the game on the spot with Hasted creatures or copied burn spells.

@danlorett2184

Жыл бұрын

Counterpoint: it's commander so nobody cares lmao

@mbarker_lng

Жыл бұрын

@@danlorett2184 Yeah, its only MTGs most popular format.

@danlorett2184

Жыл бұрын

@@mbarker_lng It's monopoly negotiations and politics disguised as bad, RNG filled magic. If you like it, great, good for you, but it's a garbage format, the "competitive" scene is laughable, and frankly actual MTG players are getting tired of having their ACTUAL formats ruined with stupid commander only BS.

No love for Price of Progress? There's a reason it hasn't been reprinted into modern.

alot of ragavan comments but darcy might be even more unfair. Enabling delve for 1 mana is crazy

I thought Blood Moon was gonna be in the top... Guess is not as broken as I believed...

@superbaas8822

Жыл бұрын

Fair decks blank the card entirely. It's only punishing to those who deserve to be punished.

What about bloodmoon?

This is why i love red :D

no way you said throne of "elaydrin" instead of eldraine lol caught me way off guard

Sneak Attack is incredibly broken!

Blood Moon

No Lightning Bolt?

Limiting this list to 10 red cards with no honorable mentions feels wrong... especially with red cards like Ragavan, Blood Moon, Sneak Attack, Final Fortune, and Grape Shot not making the cut. Yeah yeah, I know... Grape Shot...

@moshladaan

Жыл бұрын

Also just thinking about Manamorphose... I know it isn't PURE red, but it's effects are about as red (and amazing) as it gets!

@danlorett2184

Жыл бұрын

Ragavan should be #9 or 10, Blood Moon should be top 5, the rest of those cards are bad

trickery is the most broken card ever regardless of format

No ragavan or lightning bolt huh😮

Arcanist is a funny card. What's broken, the 1/3 without haste or the entire pile of 1MV cards, many of which would have been banned if they weren't grandfathered in?

@iankane3732

Жыл бұрын

The 1/3 that draws and plays you card every turn lol. Arcanist gave delver decks too much card advantage and grind ability. It's the same reason expressive iteration was just banned.

@anannoyedpanda

Жыл бұрын

I mean it's dreadhordes ability that does it, so yes dreadhorde. He was correct lol.

Were is ragavan at😮

no sneak attack?

Of the five colors, red has the least broken power.

Elaydrin! 😁

I did not see many great cards like sneak attack in this list.... That is a very broken overpowered card that has won me many many games.... You forgot combo burn with sneak attack.....

No cathartic reunion? Also Twin isn't that broken, it was literally everything else in Twin decks that made it broken.

@hurnn1543

Жыл бұрын

Also all the greedy unfair decks crying about blood moon, your tears are delicious.

@fernandobanda5734

Жыл бұрын

Cathartic Reunion? Why would you think that's broken?

Surprised that the synergy with Fork and Fireblast wasn't brought up

Dockside not being mentioned is criminal

@MekanikKommandoh88

Жыл бұрын

Dockside is not relevant in competitive Magic.

19:10 In Wizard Poker culture, this is widely considered to be a dick move.

@fernandobanda5734

Жыл бұрын

It's a very common play (not with Wheel) in Legacy

Wtf did he just call eldraine? Eladrin?

Obviously, we know VO dude doesn't play the game. I did NOT know that he's a "Take one & done" type on line readings in the booth, so I have to ask: Correct pronunciation of proper nouns just aren't a priority, huh? Or did I miss the Thrans of Allaydrin block?

@josephwodarczyk977

7 ай бұрын

It's an intentional thing to troll people into commenting. You've been played.

Bolt?

Where is ragavan?

Not the best choices, the mere fact that ragavan isn't there already makes it a bad list.

Bonecrusher giant 😓😢

Where’s ragavan and lightning bolt

Necropotence isnt on here? We all know that card was pretty broken

Wheel of Fortune + Sheoldred = dead opponent and 14 life gain.

Didn’t mention the reason Goblin Recruiter got banned, Goblin Charbelcher.

@zirilan3398

Жыл бұрын

Thought it was Food Chain

Okay, I can't. This whole list is just completely absurd. ALL CARDS in MTG are either situationally good or situationally bad, that doesn't make x card in that situation "broken." A card isn't "broken" unless it ON IT'S OWN is winning matches. If "Fires of Invention" (for example) was "broken" it would need to be at LEAST a two mana omniscience, and it would be in basically every red deck. THAT is what a broken card looks like. A more real example would be Uro, Uro by itself made every deck with Green or Blue in them 10 TIMES better. It BY ITSELF won games, it didn't require one or more other cards (let alone an entire deck architype) to do so. Mono-red is the single most balanced color in MTG. Period.

Umm....wtf are you talking about? lol. Goblin Engineer is WAY more powerful than goblin Welder? Goblin Welder has almost no use what so ever dude. First off, you need that artifact in your graveyard and if its not then it's useless. Engineer literally forces the artifact you need out of your library and then switches it with the one you need. I have won dozens of games like this by using engineer to fetch the artifact I need for my infinite combos. I could never do that with welder since it only cares about graveyard but engineer literally takes it from the library and puts it into the graveyard AND returns it. Welder only puts it from the graveyard into play so it does one half of what engineer does.

No Ragavan ?

Blazing shoal

Splinter Twin doesn't deserve to be on the list - no blood moon or ragavan is crazy

From a commander players perspective, I thought Dockside was going to be number 1.

What about the monkey I hate that card if you don’t have a answer when he hits might as well scoop

2:00 "Throne of Elaidran" its Eldrain, Eld-rain.

@anannoyedpanda

Жыл бұрын

Nobody cares

Interesting you would say casual commander format, when you yourself are barely a magic player and everyone does this research for you and all you do is read off of a prompt.

@fernandobanda5734

Жыл бұрын

But if he is just reading off of a prompt, then he's not really saying anything, is he? 🤔

Rag?

sorry throne if what

uhhhh. ragavan ? LIGHTNING BOLT ??

@PeriodismoNet

Жыл бұрын

How are they broke tho

@fernandobanda5734

Жыл бұрын

​@@PeriodismoNet Ragavan is banned in Legacy, for one.

Arcane bombardment is a good one

Use the original/good art for each card next time. Instead of the ugly reprints.

You forget lightning Bolt. It is Just the most used rede card in mtg.

@OneOfThePetes

Жыл бұрын

It's hardly broken though....

@randomcatname7792

Жыл бұрын

@@OneOfThePetes "The most used red card in MTG" should be enough of a hint to suggest otherwise

@dstreetz91

Жыл бұрын

@@OneOfThePetes It is, 3 damage for 1 mana has been too efficient in basically every format where it's legal outside of stuff like commander and vintage. When they reprinted it into standard for the first time in over a decade, 3 or less toughness creatures were actually horrible to the point that people didn't include them unless they were an aggro deck trying to push damage as fast as possible or had some enter the battlefield ability to gain benefit whether they died to bolt or not.

@corey2232

Жыл бұрын

@@randomcatname7792 Never banned in all its standard runs, never banned in Modern, never banned in Legacy or Vintage...should suggest otherwise.

@randomcatname7792

Жыл бұрын

@@corey2232 counterpoint: Wizards is notoriously bad at banning the proper cards. See.. any banlist recently

E-Lay-Drin? Are you serious my guy?

Companions occupy a special zone, the companion zone, and not the sideboard. They also don't get "drawn for 3", it's a special action that puts them in your hand

@minimiescr

Жыл бұрын

Actually, companions don't have a special zone, they indeed are in the sideboard. To quote MTG wiki: "Your companion begins the game outside the game. In tournament play, this means your sideboard. In casual play, it's simply a card you own that's not in your starting deck."

@randomcatname7792

Жыл бұрын

They do get drawn for 3, just not from your deck

@minimiescr

Жыл бұрын

@@randomcatname7792 no, it's a special action

@superbaas8822

Жыл бұрын

This was updated with time.