6:11 "non-permanent land" sure does sound like an interesting concept

@MenwithHill

Ай бұрын

[[Undiscovered Paradise]]

Ah, balance. The card with easily the most ironic name in the game

@Eebers

Жыл бұрын

indestructible aura may have balance beat

@danielgoldberg2129

Жыл бұрын

Maybe because it’s banned in most formats?😊

@lloydlineske2642

Жыл бұрын

It's about as ironic as a man saying he who lives by the sword dies by the sword....Just so happened to be a carpenter's son and was nailed to a 2x4.

@reallybig

Жыл бұрын

​@@lloydlineske2642 that isn't ironic, that's self fulfilling

@newtpondskipper

Жыл бұрын

The good old days when I could have a full playset of four. Good times.

Another reason why Rest in Peace is such a powerful sidebord card is because it's a replacement effect for death triggers, meaning any card that interacts with creatures dying (Such as Blood Artist) also gets hated out.

@kingbl4de734

Жыл бұрын

From my knowledge this should also counter unearth decks like necrons

@Korabro

Жыл бұрын

@@kingbl4de734 can't really unearth from the graveyard if there is no graveyard

Swords to plowshares is such a strong card that a lot of people see other strong white removal spells(path to exile, fateful absence, etc.) and think they’re bad because their not swords to plowshares. 1 mana exile anything with little downside is so strong that a lot of other good cards are seen as bad because they aren’t swords to plowshares.

@noneofyourbusiness4133

Жыл бұрын

First of all, you aren’t swords to plowshares. Second of all, I am swords to plowshares. Third of all, you wanna be swords to plowshares but you can’t be swords to plowshares since I am already swords to plowshares.

@cocoquake

Жыл бұрын

It's a good thing we can only put 4 copies, otherwise, most decks would be 10 support cards, 50 Swords to Plowshares

@amberhernandez

Жыл бұрын

​@@noneofyourbusiness4133Maybe I'll be --Tracer-- Swords to Plowshares

@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs

5 ай бұрын

​@@cocoquakeonly 1 copy in commander as well.

Balance sees more play in Vintage when the meta gets more creature-heavy, but that's not the default state of the format. When Mono White was such a big part of the meta recently, all the decks with White started siding or even maining Balance more often than they had in the Tinker combo meta before.

You can also use STP on your own creatures in those rare edge cases when you need to, don't forget! More than once it's saved me from burn, and once put me into win condition for the "over 40 life' cat

every time i did make a Deck that had 1 White Land or 1 "add x Mana of any colour" effect Rest in Peace was a part of the Sideboard. Its such a good card to autoinclude in anything that can create 1 white mana :D Pretty fun to see Dredge decks instantly fold when you play Rest in Peace turn 1 or 2 and they dont have an immediate answer hehe

I'm surprised Armageddon isn't on this list. This reads much more like a 'most playable cards in modern-day Magic' list rather than a broken cards list. It's not a bad list, and I get the title convention for algorithm purposes, but still. 'Geddon, Land Tax, Replenish, Humility, Shahrazad, Moat, heck - maybe even the CoPs - are more 'broken' than many of the cards on this list.

@newtpondskipper

Жыл бұрын

Armageddon is such a great card. I run three or four in my Rebels deck but haven't updated the list in over a decade.

Fun fact: the colossus hammmer deck talked about with esper sentinel is called Hammer Time, an ohmage to MC Hammer.

You forget Swords to plowshares' secret use; exiling your own creature to gain life in an emergency. It *sounds* like one of those things that's a quirk of the original rules text, but actually it's genuinely a powerful option to suddenly get out of burn range, and was actually an intended function of the card to boot, which is actually pretty unusual for early magic cards.

@chronoatog5650

11 ай бұрын

Pretty much a tool box card, has so much utility.

Idea for a future list. Top Ten [Walker]. So the best Chandra Planeswalker cards or the best versions of Ajani. You could add a dishonourable mention before number one for the worst version of each walker too. The walkers are popular as characters so I think the videos would be popular and you could dop your toe in the story side of Magic.

I could be mistaken, but neither Swords or Path explicitly say the exiled creature has to be your opponent's creature. So feasibly you could exile your own creature and gain those effects.

White.. ultra power with almost no downsides. Divine offering was always one of these in my book. I destroy your artifact and I gain life for your artifact equal to its mana cost. You can look at a white version of a card in every set and find the unfairness of white. Most modern example? Lets look at March of the machines. Tymarel, Chosen of Death versus Daxos, Blessed by the Sun. Both 2 devotion of their prospective color, both 2/* (toughness = current devotion). Tymarel has to pay 1B to exile up to 2 target cards form a graveyard to gain 1 life for each card exiled. Daxos life gain triggers every time a creature of the controller's ETB or dies. Old days you had black and white Knights. Both 2/2 first strike, and protection for black for the white, and white for the black. Equal. Its never that case any more. In 1994 our groups first rule 0 was to ban all versions of Circle of Protection because any one could win the game with those.

Swords to Plowshares Tournament interaction: Opponent playing Black Jack (Saproling Burst+Pandemonium, 21 damage turn 3), response to damage STP my own 2/2, survive with 1, kill next turn. Perfect card, always surprised it wasnt a rare from the start.

This is probably the best list I've seen on the channel so far. The ordering isn't 100% how I'd put it, but close enough, and the only card I think still deserves a mention is Deafening Silence. Unlike Rest in Peace, which is often worse than Leyline of the Void even in a deck that can cast RIP, Deafening Silence is the best absolute silver bullet to stop so many unfair decks dead in their tracks, and at just 1 mana, there's nothing else that can really claim to stand up beside it.

I feel you’re slightly underselling how impactful the drawback of STP can be. There are times when, say, 3 life can grant an opponent just enough of a window to stabilize and find an answer to your deck (or even just combo off). What really makes STP powerful, imo, is that it’s an instant. If it were a sorcery, it would see a lot less play, but the ability to cast a 1-mana exile spell at instant speed means you can save two in your hand, exile an opponent’s combo piece or finisher, and always be ready to exile it again if they play another, *before* they get to use the rest of their turn to combo off. If they have to counter it to save their combo or synergies, they’re burning at least 2 mana on a 1 mana spell, which is restricting their options for the rest of the turn. Thus, if you chain STP, you’re forcing a decision - save the card it’s targeting, or save your mana to hopefully find another way to win.

#9 most broken white card: draws a card #9 most broken blue card: forces your opponent to get kicked in the nuts, probably

In my Opinion Balance is the strongest white card ever made. In combination with fast artifact mana and massive card draw (in vintage format) it turns in many situations the game from loose to win. I love it. Thx k

@hermodnitter3902

Жыл бұрын

Balance should easily be no.1

@lloydlineske2642

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Only no. 4 and no Armageddon seems like he didn't do his homework.

@ethanhopper2467

Жыл бұрын

In any format other than exactly vintage (where decks are heavily artifact focused and often run few creatures) Balance would be in every deck. It’s not even remotely close to the other white cards in terms of power level, Swords is more versatile but Swords is just an efficient removal spells.

The only broken white cards I can think of are Balance, Land Tax, and Once More with Feeling. The others on this list are reasonable, and would not belong on the list of "broken" cards that includes Fastbond and Ancestral Recall (among others).

Honorable mention should go to Hushbringer. She is so underestimated. Two mana to shut down creature ETB and death triggers, on top of having flying and lifelink. Yes, she's a small creature that can die to almost any removal, but I have run up against decks that rely on ETBs and/or death triggers that run little to no removal. Many people have conceded to me on Arena once I get a Hushbringer down.

Swords to Plowshares is so good because a lot of extremely valuable utility creatures are also low in power. I'm thinking combo pieces, sac outlets and untap sources especially.

I enjoy all the list you make, but I really enjoy the list talking about the worst ofs'

I'll never forget the time when Brad Nelson scoffed at the notion of Monastery Mentor seeing play in older formats.

Balance isn’t the only mono white card banned in legacy anymore👀 and also Shahrazad

@birdofnyx376

Жыл бұрын

Eh shahrazad isn't even that great. It's banned everywhere due to subgames just makes matches go to time or just take forever

@danielkings2443

Жыл бұрын

@@birdofnyx376 sure but its a mono white card banned in legacy, just as white plumb adventurer and balance

@SomeGuy712x

Жыл бұрын

@@danielkings2443 You mean White Plume Adventurer.

I get that this list is mostly focused on sanctioned constructed formats, but I still feel like Teferi's Protection and Angel's Grace are great mentions. Teferi's Protection is an all star in EDH saving both you and your board for an entire turn cycle, and Angel's Grace literally says "You can't lost the game this turn." at spell speed 4 for just one W.

Balance is not the only mono white card banned in legacy. Shaharazad comes to mind

@rettjester

Жыл бұрын

white bloom adventurer too

@SomeGuy712x

Жыл бұрын

@@rettjester You mean White Plume Adventurer.

I need suggestions for mono white tribal angel deck.

I find the lack of white plume adventurer disturbing. The 3 mana initiative creature is way more format warping than the majority of this list. Archon of Ameria probably earns a spot if you consider vintage in this list. Turn 1 archon bricks a large swath of the format

Great list. I think Balance should be at 2, bumping Stoneforge and Mentor back a slot. Mentor isn’t banned and doesn’t do anything outside vintage, which is a function of the vintage cards, not necessarily the mentor. Balance is one of the cards that cannot ever be unbanned anywhere because of how it would warp the respective format.

10. Hallowed Haunting 9. Hallowed Haunting 8. Hallowed Haunting 7. Hallowed Haunting 6. Hallowed Haunting 5. Hallowed Haunting 4. Hallowed Haunting 3. Hallowed Haunting 2. Hallowed Haunting 1. Hallowed Haunting

Is balance the evenly matched of mtg?

Can you do a lit of creatures that were the best in the format but have been laid low due to power creep?

as commander player, i had to think about "land tax" and "Reconnaissance"...

Oo this one's great mate, going to do all the colors yeah?

Balance not seeing a lot of play in vintage is because it's restricted. If you tutor it up it loses a lot of value usually. If you unrestrict it in vintage I bet the format would warp around the card even with all these new powerful cards because it is just a ridiculous card in decks with lots of artifacts to break the symmetry of the effect and make your opponent almost lose on turn 1 just because with the right hands you can make them discard their whole hand or most of it for 1W.

I'd be interested in a top 10 cards with the Proliferate keyword.

In Commander, Serra Ascendant is OP. A 6/6 lifelink flyer for 1 mana.

Rest in Peace is Magic's Necrovalley

@amberhernandez

Жыл бұрын

You put words to the thought that was clattering around the back of my skull for _years_ ; thank you

Rest in peace! I love how the cards title, the art work and the effort all match exactly what it is! Magic is a game that is so well thought out.

I feel like Solitude and White Plume Adventurer should absolutely be here, both are format-warping cards.

@fernandobanda5734

Жыл бұрын

WPA was mentioned in the end.

@lloydlineske2642

Жыл бұрын

@@fernandobanda5734 So what? Still should have included them. The list is all messed up. A removal spell at 1 and whites most powerful card ever made it 4th?!

@chronoatog5650

11 ай бұрын

@@lloydlineske2642 Issue with balance is... Only restricted in vintage, only hits creatures and spells at sorcery speed. While it is broken, its issue is where are you going to play it and see use? Commander/Legacy/Modern? Not playable Vintage? Not useful at sorcery speed, and high artifact mana base. A 1 mana shattering spree replicated once, would do more damage to the enemy then balance in that format.

@lloydlineske2642

11 ай бұрын

@@chronoatog5650 Oh! I thought it was titled top 10 most busted white cards of all time. I'm sorry. I didn't realize we were talking about right now and after bannings. Hopefully you can see where I made my mistake.

An interesting thing to mention about Prismatic End is the interaction with tax effects like Thalia or Esper Sentinel. Since the value of X isn't actually relevant and the card cares about the colors spent to cast the spell, not what part of the cost they paid, you can count that extra mana toward a higher convergence. Meaning that if the opponent plays Thalia you can cast Prismatic End with X equals 0, then Thalia taxing effect applies and makes you pay one more, if you pay it with mana of another color the spell will be able to exile permanents with mana value 2 or less, including Thalia, effectively ignoring her effect.

@Dracomandriuthus

11 ай бұрын

Works for Thalia and Lodestone Golem, doesn't work for Sentinel

No surprises on the #1 spot. I don't think we will ever get a better removal spell than Swords to Plowshares

@JD-gk7eh

Жыл бұрын

It really should be Balance. It's a hard card for people to assess because it's not been legal in anything but Vintage since 1995 or so (so before even a lot of players were born!) but it's an absolute blowout and if it were legal as a 4-of in any format, it would completely ruin it. Like, it's one of the most unbalanced cards ever.

@quanquin3822

7 ай бұрын

I'm surprised it wasn't Land Tax.

Surprised tef pro didnt make list but list is solid af still

prismatic ending can remove... nonpermanent lands? :P

Someone running balance with the intent of having it see use, like I do with my deck, isn't concerned with reaching it from within the deck. I have 4 Burning Wishes and 1 Fae of Wishes for that.

what about Iona, Shield of Emeria? It's expensive as heck, but you aren't going to hard cast it, ever, you cheat her out and lock opponents of a WHOLE color, and god forbid you play monocolored there's a reason she's banned in Commander

I thought that flicker was exile until next end step. I thought blink was the exile and return effect.

@ospero7681

10 ай бұрын

Nope. Exactly the other way around, because the first occurrence of the "exile and return" ability was literally on a card named Flicker, back in Urza's Destiny.

15:27 : "Equipments, while not being the most successful __Creature__ Type..." I love for this mistakes too ^^

Im surprised white plume adventurer didnt make the mentions since it being a 3 drop w/ initiative almost warped all of legacy and some degree vintage which cause a ban in the prior format

@amberhernandez

Жыл бұрын

It did make the mentions; it was just at the very end of the video lmao

Academy rector is probably worth mentioning

No mention of any Elesh Norn? I guess some of them do need other cards to actually break

Im surprised Land Tax isnt on this list. Possibly one of the best ramp cards ever printed.

Solitude is by far a stronger card than rest in peace. Solitude sees play as a 4 of in all formats it's legal in. Honestly, solitude should probably be in the top 3 pushing out mentor.

@Korabro

Жыл бұрын

Agree on solitude being top 3 but it definitely doesn't see play as s 4 of in legacy, decks generally play swords over solitude and only really run solitude as s 1 of or as copies 5-6 of swords

@ospero7681

10 ай бұрын

...nope. It definitely doesn't. I know people reducing the game to just Commander are annoying, but completely ignoring the format is pushing too far in the opposite direction, and in that format, it sees play in 2 percent of possible decks.

no serra ascendant? a 6/6 flying lifelink on turn 1 in EDH is pretty broken

@assault410

Жыл бұрын

Dies to removal

I'm going to say it as it is: white needs more cards that do stuff without being unnecessarily conditional. Just do good things, no buts, no ifs.

Endless Horizons - Pull every single last plains out of your deck. If your whole deck is plains then you draw two cards a turn. One from your library and one will be a plains. Auto include in any monowhite deck and you don't get to argue with me on this.

Amazing!

As a white fan, I love Stoneforge Mystic, especially since I can fetch a Sword of Hearth and Home and keep using its effect to flicker Stoneforge Mystic to keep getting her fetch trigger

how is Limited Resources not on here?

I saw this list and knew Swords to Plowshares had to be on it. Was not disappointed

@lloydlineske2642

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but it shouldn't have been. It's okay but BROKEN?! No. No it's not.

How do you pronounce Jitte right but Thalia wrong?

Balance is not the only mono white card banned in legacy, white plume adventurer is, like you said in your last video

@dstreetz91

Жыл бұрын

Easy to forget, since balance has always been banned in legacy for as long as the format has existed and even it's predecessor in type 1.5 while white plume is a really fresh card.

@assault410

Жыл бұрын

Video might have been scripted before the banning

6:13 oh yeah, target no permanent lands.

Would like to point out if you had the modern event deck you could play stone forge mystic in modern when it was banned but you couldn't alter the deck.

@lloydlineske2642

Жыл бұрын

I'll need to see proof of that. It was the case for standard, but I don't believe that to be true for modern. Do you have a source or just a friend once said?

Balance+ grave betrayal when having no monsters on field…..or monastery monk+vesuvian duplimancy……

Don’t know about yall but sevinne’s reclamation, luminarch aspirant, white plumb adventure should def be on here cathar commando, march of endless joy and citizens crowbar i put in every white deck. Artifact/enchantment removal is so important and not running it can be the difference between a match.

What about worship and island sancutary

I'd love to see a top 10 you can't lose the game and your opponents can't win the game cards

Rest In Peace would be nuts in Yugioh. Banishing everything in the graveyards then being a Macro Cosmos sounds like some bullshit Gren Maju or Floo would bend over backwards for. Wow, that Tragic Arrogance flavor text is sad.

@fernandobanda5734

Жыл бұрын

Rest in Peace would also be nuts in Magic if it cost 0. I imagine it would be terrible in Yu-Gi-Oh! If it couldn't be used in the first turn.

no path to exille?

Solitude, White Plume Adventurer and arguably Leyline Binding should all be here to be honest. Rest in Peace is great but it's a sideboard card, I'd also argue Ephemerate probably shouldnt be here either to be honest, maybe even Esper Sentinel

Rest in peace and helm combo gg lol

you can´t just leave smothering tithe out of any white most powerfull cards list.

Replenish? Wrath of God? Armageddon? Enduring Renewal? Land Tax?

no silence, orim's chant, replenish, academy rector, angels grace... and putting swords to plow in the number one spot... Um what?

White Plume Adventurer is the biggest crime, but leaving off Seasoned Dungeoneer feels like a mistake as well.

This dude rocks

What Ive had swords to plowshares for years and never put it in one of my decks and I play mono white.. Giving an opponent any life is so bad what.

I put "RIP" and "HELM OF OBEDIENCE " My Commander Deck and Target to my Opponent's Library for Depletion .. Another Alternate way for Winning.😅😅

Balance is by far the most broken card in white. Swords may be better, but it's just a 1 for 1 removal spell. A set up balance completely changes the game. There's a reason it's banned everywhere. If you could have 4 you could sculpt your deck to wreck everything all the time.

Stoneforge Mystic to Kaldra Compleat

stoneforge mystic was usually used to pull jitte before it'd be used to fetch batterskull.

@assault410

Жыл бұрын

No it's not lmao

Where’s orims chant

6:13 you say target nonpermanent lands lol

Alternate title: Top 10 Most Versatile White Cards of All Time

Rest In Peace is that card that if someone plays it in Best of 1 in arena, I'm like why. NOBODY RUNS GRAVEYARD HATE IN BO1

Giver of runes? Nine lives? Solemnity?

Its funny that Monastary Mentor is currently in standard is sees zero play and on this list

No Land Tax?

Did you forget about White Plume Adventurer taking over Legacy and getting ban? He is a better card than Ephomerate Rest in Peace and Prismatic Ending. You even showed the card Solitude and didn’t put it on the list. To be honest, my mind was a little blown to see Rest in Peace and Prismatic Ending. Rest in Peace is arguably the best sideboard card in white but that’s the only argument you got.

@ospero7681

10 ай бұрын

"Getting ban"? Did it get unbanned at some point? Because according to Scryfall, it definitely isn't banned right now.

@milesthatcher

10 ай бұрын

@@ospero7681my apologies I meant to put White Plume Adventurer. I will correct accordingly. Thank you.

Where is Tef prot ?

Before a rule change regarding the card, Celestial Dawn made you instantly win in Commander, because the colors of your opponent's deck became illegal to play. All you needed was to cast it on your opponent.

Top 10 Elves

What, no Land Tax?

Abeyance. 1W, Instant. Your opponent can't play instants, interrupts, sorceries, or abilities requiring an activation cost. At the time of printing, tapping was an activation cost. Tapping to attack? Activation. Tapping a land for mana? Activation. So your opponent was limited to draw, play a land, attack with any creatures they had with vigilance. For 2 mana.

Remember do your own research. There is more single mana exile effects then swords and path. They are just the least conditioned. There is more cheap interaction out there!

Land Tax is the most broken white card imo, weird it didnt get into your list Draw 3 land cards every turn or force your adversary to not play any lands...

@TeethMeat-jm8ou

2 ай бұрын

More broken then balance? How so? Love to hear your opinion.

I know those lists are just for fun, but prismatic ending ... while solitude is not on the list? Feels off.

Teferi's protection, be like. Huh????

Monastery mentor is blue lol