Titanic Tropes: Mrs. Astor Boards Lifeboat (1979-2012)

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Depictions of John Jacob Astor asking to accompany his wife Madeleine Astor in the lifeboat and being turned away.
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  • @NorthWestern1919
    @NorthWestern1919Ай бұрын

    If I recall correctly, Lightoller stated, I think it was in his memoirs, that when Astor asked him for the number of the boat, Lightoller was under the impression that Astor wished to complain about him to the White Star Line later on. In any case, Astor wouldn't live to make a complaint. Gotta love how in the 2012 miniseries, instead of Madeleine Astor entering a boat from A Deck on the port side being loaded by Lightoller, she enters a boat from the Boat Deck on the starboard side being loaded by Lowe. Normally I wouldn't mind such liberties, A Night to Remember did the same thing, but Fellowes claimed his miniseries was "thoroughly researched" and would "set the record straight". And he certainly did not deliver in that regard.

  • @Matthewdrvr
    @MatthewdrvrАй бұрын

    The Astor situation was even worse, apparently they nearly got off on Boat 7 together, but they decided to wait.

  • @aidandunn1009
    @aidandunn1009Ай бұрын

    Apparently if u look carefully in the 1997 James Cameron version Madeleine Astor is in the the same boat as Molly Brown and Rose's mother Ruth.

  • @martyrobbins5241
    @martyrobbins5241Ай бұрын

    Poor old JJ Astor should have been let in the boat, I don't see the logic in denying a man a spot when it was half empty and no one else around

  • @SuperSpursfan123
    @SuperSpursfan123Ай бұрын

    Thanks for these videos. Pls could you do one on lifeboat 1 and the Duff-Gordens?

  • @CaptainJZH

    @CaptainJZH

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe next year!

  • @MasterAnakinSkyWalker
    @MasterAnakinSkyWalkerАй бұрын

    It's so messed up how Astor wasn't allowed to accompany his wife on the lifeboat. Sadly he would perish during the sinking, being among the passangers who were crushed by the forward funnel when it collapsed. James Cameron's film wrongly shows him in the grand staircase when the dome implodes, implying he drowned there.

  • @FrankSinatrq
    @FrankSinatrqАй бұрын

    Titanic week now! She would now be in open waters. Tomorrow, Jack Philips, the wireless operator would fix the problem with the wireless set. Which, at the time, you gotta wait until the ship makes it back to port. Because of him, maybe more could have died.

  • @HarrisonPeloso
    @HarrisonPelosoАй бұрын

    If possible please do all the clips where either the guy that played Love Joy lives or dies.

  • @Godzillafan204

    @Godzillafan204

    Ай бұрын

    He has only been in two titanic movies I think so it would be short

  • @user-qj3oc1kb3c
    @user-qj3oc1kb3cАй бұрын

    キャメロン版でもやって欲しかったな

  • @Emfceql20
    @Emfceql20Ай бұрын

    The JJ Astor from SOS Titanic and that southern/western drawl makes me cringe.

  • @haziqhakim5995
    @haziqhakim59956 күн бұрын

    The woman and children only rule is so stupid bruh

  • @stevegordon5689

    @stevegordon5689

    6 күн бұрын

    Different time

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