Finally! Someone who did a step by step, practical instruction video on these hand winches. I really appreciate your your effort. Not all of us are seasoned off road experts. It’s not rocket science but I bet if you put a university professor in front of one they would scratch their bum and wonder what to do with it. I’ll be taking my hand winch on my next trip, after some practice in the yard first. I just subscribed and am looking forward to viewing your other videos. Thanks again.

@allanhughes7859

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree I have also scratched my head a few times L.O.L...........P.S. I am not a professor !!

@luigicirelli2583

Жыл бұрын

maybe history or archeology professors

Hello there, Thank you for your video,easy to both understand and comprehend the ease of this winch. Despite what some folk may hear about this type of winch,they are the best! Yes,they can be slow when compared to electric powered vehicle mounted drum winches however,these machines will safely and securely pull (or lower) a very considerable load. These are rated as lifting and therefore when pulling they can be considered almost double the lifting maximum. One thing very important about these winches is the cable is specifically designed for internal mechanisms and (the cable) shouldn’t be used for other purposes,having a steel core rather then the usual fibre core , which resist deformation during the clamping process of winching. Sheave blocks really shouldn’t be used as the deformation caused over small diameter sheave to the steel cored cable potentially reduces its safe working capacity,keep the cable for straight pulling only and use another extension cable with your sheave block (pulley block). I suppose in an emergency some people may use it incorrectly however,the risk is there and it’s capacity is compromised! Keep up the good information videos,well done.

@jjsadv

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Sounds like to have a bit of knowledge about using these winches.

that hand winch (tirfor type) is probably the most powerful man powered tool. I have one that was used in underground mining and I can tell you the only limit it has it's the cable.

This is the same principle used in elevator scaffoldless installation.

A tirfor will pull far more than an electric winch. Just look at the cable thickness. They are rated to LIFT that weight safely - pulling it will do far far more. Yes they are slow and hard work but so versatile.

@peterjuhasz5143

3 жыл бұрын

You can rescue Your vehicle in any direction needed in the exact situation, no electrics to go wrong, no batteries go flat on the remote control etc.etc. It's so simple mechanical device, very dependable. When You pull Your vehicle, You can feel what is happening during the pull, if a stone or a tree root or anything gets under and tightens to eg. the chassis, You fell immediately on the handle, and You can solve the problem and continue the pull. You don't need to always carry the Tirfor unlike the fix mounted winch, which means extra weight at all time. The fix winch always hangs in the front, getting the rainwater, salty water at winter, got the dirt all the time.... the Tirfor is a great thing! I've 3 of it, I like to use them very much!

Thanks for this video. I literally just picked one up off a neighbours nature strip hard rubbish pile this morning ( divorce assets distribution ?? ). All complete except the for the extension handle and judging by the cable it's never been used. I wasn't sure how to use it as I've only used proper winches and come-alongs, but this vid has given me good enough info.. Cheers 👍🇦🇺.

I just bought a similar hand winch for dragging logs to a portable saw mill. Really handy to see your vid with good closeups of attachment points and handles - the winch instructions make a lot more sense now. Thank you! Reading the comments, I think I need to see if I can get that old tyre off the rim to wrap my cable in...

I keep my cable rolled up inside an old things ATV tire. Cut a few holes in sidewall on each side so it stays dry. Way much easier than the spool that came with it. Way easier than rolling up a round cable in a square box. Then, you can put other things with the winch, inside the fine box you have.

@mattwarry1894

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a great idea. I’m gonna do the same, thanks mate!

@ridgerunner106

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattwarry1894 I have all my cables rolled inside tires now. I tie a short piece of rope on the last end that goes in so I can pull it out without tangle.

@mattwarry1894

3 жыл бұрын

@@ridgerunner106 mate that’s a great tip, thanks heaps!

@ridgerunner106

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattwarry1894 Man, it's worked flawlessly. Just an old thin light tire works fine. But, ATV tires work real good. I cut four finger size holes in each sidewall. You can even spray with oil and leave in tire. I like it a lot better than the little wire frame that came with it. At first, I used an aluminum atv rim. It was light as a feather. But, was still a pain to roll up. Then one day, I rolled it into the tire, that is the way to go. Now, it's in its own little soft pack.

Regarding the use of a snatch block with the winch cable, if you are stuck in the bush and you need the extra leverage to get out I would not hesitate to use it. You can always buy a new cable if need be. I like the peace of mind knowing I have a winch in the truck. In one of the other comments someone rightly pointed out you should ideally use a nylon rope with a snatch block. Great to see people are conscious of safety. Thanks.

Looks good . Well explained vid and very helpful Thankyou

Thanks for the demo.

3:27 - I think the bolt is supposed to go through that slot on the bracket that's bolted to your car. That way, it's in perfect double sheer, and you have a smooth loop of the shackle that won't dig into ropes or straps.

Geeat video! Very well explained. Cheers mate

I have one and I learnt something watching your good video.

@jjsadv

4 жыл бұрын

What did you learn?

@bernicecanty721

4 жыл бұрын

@@jjsadv when using the snatch block, you don't need another tree to pull off but use the other loop on the tree protector. I know it's simple but I never thought of that. Thanks.

Excellent informative video

What size space case did you use for this? A model number would be equally as useful

Good vid!

Excellent..especially how to release to get the damn cable in

I've been feeding mine painfully with the levers for over a year I knew the bit at the front must release it to feed but didn't know how

@TC-th1ey

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like pure pain.

Thanks

the yellow thing that you put the shackle into is actually a tie down. i was out once and tied a snatch rope onto one of them and as soon as i started towing it broke.

@jjsadv

2 жыл бұрын

On the car, it’s a rated recovery point.. I fitted 2 of them, one each side.. the tie downs are loops that are welded onto the car.. they are black, the same as the chassis.. these particular ones are only rate for a straight pull, unlike the ARB ones that are also rated for an angle pull.

That yellow attachment point on the vehicle looks like its missing a bolt? Or is that normal or OK ?

@jjsadv

5 жыл бұрын

Its normal. Must line up with another model.

Mate, do yourself a favour, always wear riggers gloves or similar when handling steel wire rope. You only need a couple of broken strands to inflict a nasty injury which is open to infection (grease, dirt). Otherwise, thanks for posting.

@jjsadv

6 жыл бұрын

Mongrel Dog Productions you are 100% right. Didn’t think of it as it was just a quick demo. I actually have some in the draw in the back.

@Vishal-uz4rn

6 жыл бұрын

You probably don't want a cut for profuse bleeding while on solo ride. Better be safe than never.

@jjsadv

6 жыл бұрын

I dont take it riding, but yes, I should have used my gloves, I just forgot. If I had of cut myself I would have remembered real quick.

Not a bad effort at videoing the process. I have used mine to pull trees down as well.... :) But I do have some concerns. Firstly, was that a tie down point or a rated recovery point on the fourby that the winch was connected to? If it was the former (as I suspect), you could be in deep trouble if that sheared off during a recovery. It looked to me the recovery point was actually almost next to where you tied on - the heavy gauge "U" painted black. Am I in need of correction here? Secondly, I know that a damping blanket has been said to be necessary on recoveries in case something goes "twang" or "kapow" bigtime - that is something catastrophically fails in the winching setup. But is a damping blanket really going to do anything? It would depend on where a failure occurred. Ok so lets say someone tries winching off the tie down rather than recovery point and the tie down shears off when the winch rope is under considerable tension. Would that winch blanket make that much of a contribution to slowing a pretty fast projectile? And if a failure occurred elsewhere wouldn't its contribution be nil? I have seen people affirming the necessity of these blankets, but what really are we protecting against? In fact, adding a hanging mass to a tautly strung rope can have a very dramatic effect on increasing the rope loading. Supporting vertical weight forces with near horizontal rope is not a good mix.

@jjsadv

6 жыл бұрын

Vaughan Williamson it was a rated point. And yes. The dampening blankets help a lot. There is plenty on KZread to look at to prove this.

I use a motor bike tire to keep my cable in

@jjsadv

Жыл бұрын

Very cool idea. I do have a tyre here.. Might try that.

Good demo. Thank god almighty for electric winches though! :-)

@51WCDodge

4 жыл бұрын

One the battery doesn't go flat Two, you can get a lot more precise control than an electric winch.

@tauhidahmad7381

4 жыл бұрын

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Great video, thanks for posting it but I'm a little concerned about the way you rigged the double pull. I know it's only a demo but I think that by attaching the winch to one end of the tree strap and the other end to the hook you halved the strength of the strap but doubled the pressure on it. I would have used a separate strap and a different anchor point as well (you may not have that set up in you front garden lol)

@jjsadv

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it was just a demo as I had it out that morning. :)

@benjanssens8662

2 жыл бұрын

The force is the same on both sides of the cable, say the car is 2.5t, there is a 2 to 1 being applied on the car, effectively requiring the tirfor to pull 1.25 tonne and the tree 1.25t with 2.5T in total being applied on the tree(anchor point) and obviously the load, the sling wasnt choked or twisted, cant see any issues with it. And what is double pressure lol? Friction? Not an issue being evenly distrubutrd from the sling, Im a rope access tech and have my rigging tickets

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Thanks to "inflation" (profiteering) they have gotten very expensive.

I doubt you will be able to use it when stuck in mud or incline road. Probably a person will run out of power in moving the handle, no matter how long it will be. Might only work on small hindrances but not good for outback at all. I am not an Australian but seen many videos and I doubt this winch will work at all.

@jjsadv

6 жыл бұрын

Its worked ok so far. But yes when alone its more difficult. And its slow. When used with a pully block its pretty good. 90% of the time when stuck you only need a bit of a hand to get traction again. Its not really for extreme muddy conditions. Just to slow and hard to use in these situations.

@laurencegrimwood5187

5 жыл бұрын

'i am not an australian' aaannnd into the trash it goes

@lisaludwig1550

5 жыл бұрын

I work for the company that manufactures the Tirfor/ Griphoist. These have been around since 1941. They were originally designed for use in the Navy, for use in under water situations and sandy gritty situations. The Tirfor will last forever as long as it is serviced at least once a year by a certified repair Distributor. I have seen old Tirfors still in action from 1941 that are in great condition. Depends on how you maintain your equipment. Please check out www.tractel.com for more info.

@rotam8680

4 жыл бұрын

trust me on this one youll be able to use it. just slow but fuck it can pull

@colinsavill3459

4 жыл бұрын

HappyTube I doubt you’ve ever used one so I’ll stick with my experience that they work really well.

Electricians use cable, winches use steel wire rope (SWR). And that is not a Tirfor. It's a Bighaul hand winch. Rated at 2.5 tonne pulling.

@jjsadv

4 жыл бұрын

yeah.. OK.. tomato/tomato

@carl8568

Жыл бұрын

Big Haul is simply the brand.. it's a type of Tirfor winch.

Good video thanks , but I will say I cringed as I watched you handle that cable with no gloves . 1 little fray and it could hurt you bad .

@jjsadv

4 жыл бұрын

So every one reminds me.. but I survived :)

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