To subdue Georgians Timur ordered to destroy vines which is basically ripping Georgia’s heart out. That is one of the most traumatic experience for us in our long history of traumatic experiences

@ryanbennett8310

5 ай бұрын

As in grape vines? As an Angelo i haven't heard of this event.

@luciusdomitiusaurelianus774

5 ай бұрын

Indeed Grape vines. It’s like huge tradition for us coz Georgia is said to be the home of wine. Fun fact king Demetrius I wrote the poem dedicated to virgin Mary called “you are the grapevine”

@notsocrates9529

5 ай бұрын

@@luciusdomitiusaurelianus774 That is so interesting to hear, Georgia gets glossed over when it comes to history and atrocities. People tend to focus on Genghis Khan, Atilla the Hun or certain regions like Rome or ancient China.

@luciusdomitiusaurelianus774

5 ай бұрын

I love this channel because it gave exposure to Armenian history as well. Georgian and Armenian history tend to get neglected which is very sad. Idk if its true or not but Georgian noble almost killed Timur in one of the ambushes. While Timur managed to escape wounded he lost the helmet which was then recovered and brought to monastery in Racha if I’m not mistaken.

@meme-potentialsearch8010

5 ай бұрын

Goobers

"Timur was a highly intelligent blood thirsty tyrant". I think this is a very concise summation of Timur's personality and frankly the reason for his success. He had a razor sharp mind and was more than prepared to couple it with systematic violence to acquire any agenda he sought.

@CAMSLAYER13

4 ай бұрын

The harsh truth is violence can get you far. You do need some brains behind it though

@jsotirakis

4 ай бұрын

Sounds like Stalin

@temurhakim2356

3 ай бұрын

AMIR TIMUR NEVER DESTROYED BUDHA SHRINE/OR BUILDINGS EDUCATION GENGHIS/ALEXANDER THE GREAT/ JULIUS CAESAR DID DESTROY TIMUR GRANDSON ULUGH BEG IS SCIENCE/MATHS KING/ TAJ MAHAL MADE BY HIS CHILDREN FUTURE NO ONE WON CHESS WITH TIMUR

@thereelmovies

3 ай бұрын

As were literally every European or Asian rulers.Take Napoleon is Zaragoza

Tamerlane invading China is arguably one of the greatest “what ifs” in history

@3lkPeople3uiltTh3Pyramids

5 ай бұрын

Wow he invaded China watt Year

@majorianus8055

5 ай бұрын

He will probably lose tho

@TuDeDaTe

5 ай бұрын

He never lost tho, like not even once. ​@@majorianus8055

@calvinsuu1949

5 ай бұрын

He would have allied with the mongol tribes and it would have created two front for china....

@3master791

5 ай бұрын

@@TuDeDaTe He lost a battle against the Chagatai Khanate

Not the strangest warband speedrun I've ever witnessed

@JingLi-pw3du

3 ай бұрын

here

“I used to be an adventure till I took an arrow to the knee “

@StoicHistorian

5 ай бұрын

finally, thank you

@alanhonlunli

4 ай бұрын

Was wondering when this would turn up.

Crazy to me that in a society that prized individual Marshal prowess, a crippled man from two arquebus shots could rise to control such a vast expanse of territory. Perhaps his ruthlessness was on account of his self realization that his individual abilities were extremely limited. Of course he must have been cunning and extremely intelligent, I think he could speak more than two languages which no doubt assisted in his coalescing of such a massive force.

@Historyteller346

5 ай бұрын

He wasn't shot with an arquebuse. He was shot with a bow...

@pinchevulpes

5 ай бұрын

@@Historyteller346 the source I read says it was shot. I couldn’t find a source on the autopsy done on his body after exhumation, do you have conclusive evidence evidence to the contrary?

@Historyteller346

5 ай бұрын

​@@pinchevulpesThis event took place in 1363 and the first arquebuses were invented in the 1410's. More than 4 decades after the incident took place. Plus, the arquebuses were used only by the Spanish and the Ottomans for more than 100 years after their creation. The eastern world would only begin using it in the 1520's. More than a century after the events...

@pinchevulpes

5 ай бұрын

@@Historyteller346 thank you for this info. I unfortunately can’t edit the comment without losing Kudos from the channel OP. But thanks again

@Historyteller346

5 ай бұрын

@@pinchevulpes👍

1:05 Timur is iron, Timuçin is the iron smith.

You know youre brutal when your own horde is feeling sorry for the people they’re pillaging

The georgians and their mountain fortresses did surprisingly well, I never knew they beat back timur's sons a couple of times with (presumably) next to no golden horde assistance kudos. Battle of ankara: Least loyal serbian vs most loyal turkic mercenaries A timurid invasion of ming china supported by the northern yuan, eastern mongols and the oirats would have been very interesting. He had the possible allies before yongle's northern campaigns against the mongols took place. However ming "instability" was clearly widely overstated, Yongle was already crowned emperor by that point (jingnan rebellion was over). I would wager Tamerlane would meet his match against the Yongle emperor.

@meme-potentialsearch8010

5 ай бұрын

turks took over Serbia, why would Serbs be loyal to the dogs of Altai?

@Timurenjoyer1336

5 ай бұрын

Maybe, but he could perhaps foster instability through raising up the jianwen emperor again?

@Tamara-nn1wr

4 ай бұрын

Actually, Mongols beat Georgians in 1222? And Georgia and Armenia were under the control of Persian Empire, there are still some Georgian villages in Iran.

@MrDididevi

4 ай бұрын

@@Tamara-nn1wr georgian villages appear in fereidan district of iran in 17-th c., after abbas 1 deported georgian captives from kakheti region

I’ve heard of Timur in passing whenever I skimmed through the medieval history of the Middle East, I knew about his reputation as a warlord and kill count. But hearing about it in detail in this video leaves me speechless at how much of a petty and bloodthirsty tyrant he was. It’s crazy how such men would get into power and abuse the hell out of it simply to feed their own egos. Condolences to all of his victims.

There are few historical videos about Timur that are this detailed,accurate and unbiased.Good job,finally someone that can tell Timur treated Beyazid well according to accounts.

Great video. You earned yourself a subscriber. Timur is so fascinating because of the fact he called himself the defender of Islam yet he went around mostly killing Muslims.

@orboakin8074

5 ай бұрын

Is anyone really surprised by this?

@2pock

5 ай бұрын

He was a coward pretending to be a Muslim, with a chip on his shoulder because mongol’s first defeat at ain jalut

@miketackabery7521

5 ай бұрын

​@@orboakin8074yeah. That's what "defenders of Islam" do.

@m.aryaanamiri2755

5 ай бұрын

@@miketackabery7521 smartest mainstream media consumer.

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

​@@miketackabery7521Most intelligent media consumer :

There is a great podcast called "Timur Podcast" The creator never completed it but it covers a large part of the early life and early rule of Timur. There is also the book by Justin Marozzi "Tamerlane" and the old novel "Tamerlane: The Earth Shaker" by Harold Lamb.

@rehobothbitege4560

3 ай бұрын

I watch that podcast on Spotify and I absolutely love it. I’m soo glad you mentioned it.

26:15 I actually heard he didn't actually build a pyramid of skulls, instead he built a pyramid of heads and they just ended up rotting after a while.

@valtontony826

4 ай бұрын

that's even worse, oh God

This was actually great to listen to, with good choice of paintings. Keep up the good work.

An hour well spent, legendary video👏

Seriously underrated channel keep it up!

Very well made of an era and subject that i knew very little of. Instant sub. Keep up the good work

Its interesting actually,Ottomans during that time were seen superpower of the world by Europe who could defeat everyone easily. In the aftermath battle of Ankara Timur send letters to King of France and England. In The letter he said he defeated most powerful nation in Europe,The Ottoman Empire.Europe was in shock.He even sieged down the castle of Smyrna from Hospitaller Knights and gained control of two islands in coast of İzmir(Lesbos and Chios)even though he had no navy.

@Nmax

4 ай бұрын

Ottomans were not yet a superpower. Timur fought the Ottomans in 1401 when they were still a young empire. The Ottoman empire became a truly great power after conquering Constantine in 1453 and conquering the Levant and upto Vienna by the mid 1500s Long after timurs empire fell apart after his death

@tearet741

4 ай бұрын

​@@NmaxStill they were great power , nobody did and could that to ottomans what Timurland did back then

@tearet741

4 ай бұрын

They french , english , and catsilian kings send a letter with congratulations to Timurlan , one castilian named Rui Gonzales de clavijo travel to Timurid state and to its capital Samarkand

This deserves more views it was an amazing video!

Amazing narration!!!

A lot of the YT documentaries availble on Timur are of fairly low quality or too short, but this was comprehensive and well written. Thanks.

Finally I good long form documentary on Timur I can listen to while working and eating.

Excellent work here Sir

Timer was a chronically underrated figure but he likely didn’t kill 17 million

@AstroSully

2 ай бұрын

Same goes for Genghis.

@postyoda1623

6 күн бұрын

Medieval people, esp. historians of victim nations sure liked to 100x the numbers.

Great as always 😄

I wonder what how bad they did the Georgians that even his own troops who killed thousands horrifically already started feeling sorry.

Great video I wish you all success and to continue the great work

He was so competitive! Georgia forever!

Do one on Nader shah!!! he is lesser known

@postyoda1623

6 күн бұрын

Best source is a book by the name of Nader Shah's quest for legitimacy.

Good stuff. Thanks.

Timur was genuinely the most badass ruler, to have built what he built, not bad for a crippled livestock thief

Fantastic video, you’ve earned yourself a subscriber

@StoicHistorian

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

I would hate to be Georgian during timur's time lol. Great vid as always. Ur super underrated

Thank you for the content, I like it. you got my sup

@StoicHistorian

5 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

Georgia are chads

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

Why ? They just kept losing...

Nice video, very interesting topic. Its interesting that he had so close ties to the king of France, would be interesting to know more about that! What exactly was the context for their allied military operations? French crusaders in the levant? Surely Timurid troops did not find their way to distant france? Also the title of the video immediate ly makes me wonder why he was the last. What happened to the great nomadic empires? You touched on it briefly at the end, with the rise of gunpowder weapons. But maybe delving more into this is a topic for a future video? You surely put a lot of work into this, so please don't take this feedback as complaints or anything: I think you could have used more maps etc. and generally pictures that are more relevant to what you are talking about. I realize you are just 1 person and I don't expect animated info-graphics like on Kings and Generals or anything like that. But some simple sketches of troop-movements etc. would do wonders to visualize and help us understand the situation. It would be much more interesting to look at than oldmedieval paintings of rulers and battles which all look nearly identical. Just my opinion anyway, great work :)

He used to be an adventurer like you, until he took an arrow to the knee.

When Timur was born, in his right hand there was blood and according to Turkic stories, if a man is born with blood in his hand, he will shed so much blood and he will be great man, so as the same was Gengis Khan, Gengis Khan was also born with blood in his hand and both, Amir Timur and Gengis Khan, were killed so many people and conquered lots of Empires.

Nomads no longer having world conquerors as the world industrialized and modernizes: hey… that was fun… thank you…

@tearet741

4 ай бұрын

Why then they have conquerors back then , if they were more advance ?

@user-fl5mq9kp7g

2 ай бұрын

​@@tearet741Uzbeks: No, they were killed

Timur vs China is one of the greatest what ifs in history, but I think it’s a great ending for the Emir to die at the peak of his power. Absolute banger of video btw, fantastic narration and visuals. Keep it up

very cool video!

great video, love this area of history! you covered it well. volume on the video could be a bit louder though!

“I was a great adventure till I took a arrow to the knee “ lol

Excellent video! I thought of doing a documentary on Timurlane some day, but I think this work suffices in telling his story.

@StoicHistorian

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!! Great to see you here

No matter what, Timur made crutial rol in Central Asian nations. In his and his successors era central Asia became centre of the world in that time and build central Asian culture, science in one word Temurid Renaissance.

He wasn't lame, he was pretty cool.

Very good and reminds me of my visit to his mausoleum

I always wanted to learn more about Timur, but most videos were of rather poor quality. This one is very good 😁

A great conqueror he belonged to the mixed Mongol-Turkic Race. When the Mongols captured Central Asia they mixed with the local Turks. Now the Turks want to be referred to as Mongols. Even a blind person can make out a pure (not mixed with Mongol) Turk. See Erdogan. Now see a genuine Mongol: Ukhnaagiin Khürelsükh. Now the Turks who were mixed with Mongols want to be referred to as Mongols! There is also an agenda in this in which foreigners are involved. The Turks in Central Asia are mostly mixed with Mongols. See the people of Turkmenistan; most are mixed though there are still some pure Turks in this region.

@adidoki

4 ай бұрын

Erdogan is literally a georgian, tf you saying

Fun fact The ingush a nakh people from Caucasus stole timurs son , timur searched for hem everywhere. The man who stole hem was ingush warrior called Berkim, my ancestor.

Could you do a video about north eastern area of Europe

Say what you want about his actions, but the dude had drip.

Hi from Uzbekistan 🇺🇿

@user-fl5mq9kp7g

2 ай бұрын

The heroes who destroyed his kingdom ❤❤❤❤❤

its insane that this time of nomidic horse archer armies and castles occured in the same century america was discovered by europe

@Ayinde65

3 ай бұрын

You mean Europeans stumbled into the islands of the Caribbean, which were already populated.

TImur really the Jon Jones (shoutout to everybody who watches MMA and knows who he is) of steppe warlords unwilling to accept defeat no matter what bribing his enemies troops diverting rivers making skull towers and he wasn't true to his religion too.

timur the lame vs talkstomuch

to be fair, "iron" was a common name for mongols (I think 2-3 Yuan emperors had that name)

@nomooon

4 ай бұрын

Iron pot!

Excellent video! Small orthographical note: Polities like the Ottomans and the Timurids should be written as here, with no apostrophes, because these words are not denoting possession. Written as they are on your maps, it implies that these political entities are objects/things which belong to one specific Ottoman/Timurid (as in "the man's horse"; "the team's victory"). You are more than free to do as you wish, but I felt that it might help with the clarity, especially with differentiating it from the adjective form ("the Timurid conquest") and the plural possessive ("the Ottomans' dire situation").

@StoicHistorian

4 ай бұрын

Great note thank you

That Georgia is more Circassia than Georgia, especially Tbilisi.

@MrDididevi

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Can you make a video about Al-Hajjaj Al-Thaqafi? He resembles Timur in cruelty and he also tried to invade China, but he died before that.

Timur and Chinggis and Attila could more properly be called "land pirates" than anything else. They had no home other than in name; they amassed armies on the promise of lucrative thievery, they preyed upon realms who were actually administering their territories, looting and destroying those as found; and leaving nothing of value behind in their wakes. When they died, they left nothing that lasted; just a trail of empty predation. The many small rulers they destroyed were more worthy of our respect. Those at least were protecting something.

@Tom_Cruise_Missile

5 ай бұрын

Well said.

@lessssssgooooo

5 ай бұрын

What are you talking about Timur left Samarkand behind one of the most magnidicent cities of the time

@Makofueled

5 ай бұрын

​@@lessssssgoooootoo true

@xanshen9011

4 ай бұрын

You got conquered 😂🫵

@plimpus4668

4 ай бұрын

Timur literally created the last rennaissance of the Islamic World and Genghis created a dynastic legacy that lasted up until the 20th century, not to mention the mongols contribution to the spread of knowledge to europe. The view of these nomadic civilizations as simply raiders and destroyers is only a product of stupid western views about the east

I find it hilarious how some of these curses come true.

Enthusiasm will be missed

Powerhungry maniac

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

Like all medieval rulers...

French kings seem to have an affinity for Islamic empires holding land in anatolia

You're wrong about the names. Temujin means blacksmith according to historians like Dr Ali Ansari and Professors Mike McLynn

Temur lost one fight in his entire reign. Mud fight

If those paintings are anything close to accurate, then there's no way the Golden Horde were Mongolian

@StoicHistorian

2 ай бұрын

It’s the rus depicting the Golden Horde

I just want to answer a question that many ask : "Did Timur I really kill 17.000.000 people ?" The answer is : No. Timur I did not kill 17.000.000 people. Timur I or Timur "The lame" is known to have been one of the greatest conquerors in history. A man of relatively humble origins who rose to become the most powerful man of his time. Timur I was also known for his ruthlessness and cruelty during his military campaigns. His empire was build upon the death of countless people who died as a result of his wars... There is no doubt that Timur I was one of the greatest and most ruthless conquerors in history. Few men left behind a death toll at a similar level as Timur I in the medieval era. The most commonly given figure of casualties is 17.000.000 people. This was about 5% of the known world’s population at the time. However, the idea that Timur I killed 17.000.000 people seems to be false. It is a figure that is built upon exaggerations with no real evidence behind it... 1 - The Death Toll : Let me begin by what the 17.000.000 figure really represents. This number is not meant to be the number of people killed by the armies of Timur I. Rather the total casualties that died as a result of his military campaigns. This figure just represents the total number of people that died in the region during Timur I’s reign. Note that this is the total number of deaths. It includes all causes. Such as famine, disease, chaos, etc... However, it is common for a large percentage of the total deaths in a war to result from secondary causes rather than being killed by the military forces. Such as famine and disease. These secondary causes largely arise as a consequence of the war. In Timur I’s case, he was indirectly responsible for creating the conditions that resulted in these secondary causes. Thus responsible for the deaths that arose as a consequence of them. The reason for mentioning this is to make it clear exactly what we are referring to here. It is safe to assume that the majority (At least half) of the deaths were from these secondary causes... So what does the 17.000.000 figure indicate? It represents the total number of deaths that resulted from Timur I’s conquests. This includes those killed by his forces, those who died from disease or starvation and those who fell victim to the chaos. The number of people who were directly killed by his forces is probably less than half of the total... 2 - Source of these estimates : You may be wondering why I would question the 17.000.000 figure even though I myself stated that he left behind a death toll that was matched by few men. The reason is that this 17.000.000 figure has been bothering me for some time now. Not because I doubt the death and destruction left behind by the man. But because I have been unable to find any evidence of the exact source of this number and how it was estimated... So where does this 17.000.000 number come from? The truth is that I have no idea. Despite looking into it for some time now. I have been unable to find the primary source of the estimate or the methodology behind its calculation... What makes it even more doubtful is that I have come across several different estimates. There is no consistency between these numbers. The lowest estimate of 7.000.000 people comes from Ian McWilliam of the "Los Angeles Times". The highest estimate of 20.000.000 people comes from Peter Ford of the "Christian Science Monitor". The maximal estimate of 20.000.000 people is about thrice as large as the minimal estimate of 7.000.000 people. Yet, once again there is no source ever provided for the origin of these estimates... This makes me question the source of these estimates. It is common to come across articles online that mention the 17.000.000 estimated figure. If you follow the trail of these sources, it eventually take you down a rabbit hole to a newspaper article from the late 1990's. This was the time when the Soviet Union collapsed and the Republic of Uzbekistan came to be. Interestingly, none of these articles were really about Timur I himself. Rather about Uzbekistan’s interesting association with him and reconstruction of a new national image of Timur I... Here are some of those articles for those who are interested : www.nytimes.com/1997/11/10/world/a-kinder-gentler-tamerlane-inspires-uzbekistan.html www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1999-01-17-9901170256-story.html www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-08-23-wr-30294-story.html If you look at these sources and read the available articles, it quickly becomes clear that these “estimates” seem like figures magically pulled out of a hat. No source is listed from where these figures came or how they were calculated. The men who wrote these articles are not historians, nor are they experts of Timurid or Central Asian history. Rather journalists who specialize on foreign affairs... I sincerely don’t blame these journalists for using these figures. Their articles were never written about Timur I. He was simply a side note on their articles about the newly formed Republic of Uzbekistan. But the problem is that these articles should have never been used as a primary source for the estimate of people who died as a result of Timur I’s invasions. The source of such things should always be a book or a historian that has focused on Timur I or just simply the Timurid Empire in general... The only book that I have found which mentions an exact figure as an estimate is “The Lost Tribes, A Myth: Suggestions Towards Rewriting Hebrew History” by Allen Howard Godbey. He places the estimate at 12.000.000 people killed. This man is no expert on Timurid or even Central Asian history in general. Nor was the book about these topics either. Once again, no source is mentioned, nor is any hint given as to how the author estimated this figure... The best example of the use of these articles as the primary sources for historical works is the book “Atrocities: The 100 Deadliest Episodes in Human History” by Matthew White. The chapter on Timur I lists the total death toll caused by him as 17.000.000 people. The same confusing estimate. So how did this author calculate this estimate? The answer is simple : He simply used all of these old newspaper articles and the already mentioned book “The Lost Tribes, A Myth: Suggestions Towards Rewriting Hebrew History” as sources for calculating the estimate. He simply took their estimates without ever considering where these articles were getting these estimates from or how they calculated it. This is a pattern that I have seen over and over again. The use of these same unreliable articles as a primary source... 3 - Questioning these estimates : It quickly becomes apparent that these “estimates” are in reality just wild guesses. None of them seem to have used any scientific or mathematical method of calculating the dead. The most telling point is the fact that books that are written about Timur I himself shy away from placing an exact figure as an estimate. Instead, they simply mention the destructive nature of his wars and that countless people died as a result... From what I have noted, experts on Timurid history (Such as Beatrice Forbes Manz for example) do not even attempt to estimate how many people died as a result of Timur I’s conquests. All of this makes it clear that we really have absolutely no real idea of just how many people died as a result of his invasions... (I don't have enought space, so please read the first comment in the answers section of my comment to see what I have to say next)

@Historyteller346

5 ай бұрын

4 - Estimation of the Medieval death toll : Estimation of the death toll from the medieval era is quite difficult. Doing it accurately is pretty much next to impossible. There are 2 reasons for this. A - We lack any detailed records (if they ever even existed) of the population of different regions in the era. Nor any other form of supporting evidence of the corresponding decline in population... B - We also have to consider that the medieval chroniclers had a tendency to exaggerate and greatly inflate the numbers. It is common knowledge that medieval chroniclers had a tendency to greatly inflate numbers. Take the Mongol invasions of the Khwarezmian Empire for example. The Persian historian, Minhaj-i Siraj Juzjani, tells us that about 2.400.000 people were killed in Herat and another 1.700.000 in Nishapur. These figures are higher than our estimates of the total population of these cities in that era. If we are to take these medieval chroniclers at face value, that brings the total number of deaths in the Khwarezmian Empire to around 15.000.000 deaths. Which is more than our total estimate of the population of the region (Which is around 5.000.000 people). This really shows us how unreliable medieval estimates can often be... Timur I’s estimate of 17.000.000 people killed is about half of the death toll of all the Mongol invasions (Which is around 40.000.000 people). This makes little sense, as the majority of the death toll of the Mongol invasions are from China, one of the most heavily populated regions of the world (About 40% of the world’s population). The only region invaded by Timur I that contained a similar population was the Indian Subcontinent (About 40% of the world’s population). The thing is that Timur I’s invasion never went deep into the Indian Subcontinent. Nor was it a prolonged military campaign. He only ever reached as far as Delhi in a campaign that lasted only a few months. Most of India (East India, Central India, Deccan, South India) was completely untouched by his invasion. Compare this to the decades long conflict between the Chinese Empires and the Mongols... This further casts doubt on the 17.000.000 figure. It is unrealistic to say that Timur I caused about half the total death toll of the Mongol invasions without invading regions that were as heavily populated as China. We must remember that most of Timur I’s military campaigns were in the regions of Central Asia, northern Eurasian steppes, Western Asia and the Caucasus region. These places had already been recently devastated by the Mongol invasions and the Black Death. So it would have already been far less populated than prior to the Mongol invasions... 5 - In conclusion : Now, let’s come back to the original question. Did Timur I really kill 17.000.000 people? The answer to that is no. The 17.000.000 figure represents the total number of deaths that resulted from Timur I’s conquests. Not just those killed by his forces... As I have already explained, there are many reasons why the 17.000.000 estimate is very unreliable. So why is it the most commonly cited estimate ? I personally think that it's because newspaper articles from the 1990's were among the original sources to ever attempt to place an exact estimate of the total death toll. Over the next 2 decades, others simply took the highest cited estimate from a well-known source (New York Times for example) as a reliable estimate. Citing a higher estimate is also often in the best interest of many of these articles on Timur I as it's suits their bias. Choosing the lower estimates would have the opposite effect. Since many of these articles are specifically on how destructive Timur I was and how he was one of the most destructive men in history... We can even look at the total death toll given to us by the contemporary sources from men who lived during Timur I’s time. The numbers they give us are : - Delhi (200,000 killed) - Baghdad (90,000 killed) - Damascus (90,000 killed) - Isfahan (70,000 killed) - Aleppo (20,000 killed) Even if we took the numbers provided to us by medieval chroniclers as true rather than an exaggeration, the total death toll from these sources is 470.000 deaths. We would have to double it to reach just 1.000.000 deaths as all these massacres do not even add up to 1.000.000 deaths... There is no doubt that Timur I was one of the most ruthless conquerors in history. Few men left behind a death toll at a similar level as Timur I in the medieval era. His empire was built upon the deaths of countless men, women and children. However, the idea that 17.000.000 people (5% of the world’s population) died as a result of his invasions seems to be false. It is a figure that is built upon exaggerations with no real evidence behind it... The truth is that we simply have no idea exactly how many people died as a result of Timur I’s conquests. We lack the evidence to analyze the decrease in population in the 3 decades of Timur I’s reign. This is why books written on Timur I by experts on the Timurid Empire's history shy away from stating any exact estimates for the total death toll. Instead opting to vaguely state that countless people died as a result of his conquests...

@Otram58

5 ай бұрын

You wrote a two hour long passage and expected that people would read it😂

@Historyteller346

5 ай бұрын

​​@@Otram58Yes, and ? What's your problem ?

@Otram58

5 ай бұрын

@@Historyteller346 You know it's like coming up with long paragraphs why Stalin wasn't a mass murderer

@Historyteller346

5 ай бұрын

​​@@Otram58I just wanted to explain that Timur I didn't actually kill 17.000.000 people with evidence. Why do you people have to be so mean without a reason ?

@stoic historian i think you would love readung "the book of kings" otiginali named"shahname" by ferdosi

Wow.... my literal ancestor.... im his direct descendant (im 3% uzbek)

@Rabbi-Jill-kews

5 ай бұрын

Lol

@anythingthoughanythingthou2453

5 ай бұрын

So 97 percent nothing to do with them? Hahahahhaahhah

@Nuruddunya

4 ай бұрын

@@anythingthoughanythingthou2453 you should get tested for autism

The greatest missed opportunity of the Mongols was they failed to wipe out Islam :(

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

Most intelligent media consumer :

hey the last one is actually nader shah during gunpowder empires

@StoicHistorian

5 ай бұрын

This is true that Nader was a nomad, but his army was not horse archer focused like timurs

@BallyBoy95

5 ай бұрын

@@StoicHistorian Yup, he used swivel guns mounted on camels instead. 🙃 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamburak He fked my country up pretty bad (India), Nader Shah couldn't be fked, man's got territories to annex.

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

​@@BallyBoy95The only ones he wasn't able to defeat were the Sikhs...

Why do people keep rebelling against timur. Don't they learn 😅

@StoicHistorian

4 ай бұрын

That’s what I was trying to understand😂

What a psychopath!

Perhaps it was Timur the Lama 'maybe dali lama '

Is that Timurid flag legit? The 3 red circles on a black background?

@StoicHistorian

5 ай бұрын

I’m not sure. It’s one they are known for though

@Historyteller346

5 ай бұрын

​​​@@StoicHistorianIt shows the 3 main continents known to man at the time : - Asia - Africa - Europe Each circle represents one continent. Timur I used it to demonstrate his ambition to be a universal ruler like Genghis Khan before him and conquer all 3 of them...

Temürchiñ Chyñghys Qaghan has a Qazaq name and a Qazaq title of Khan. [Mongolian title is Hontaychi] Temürbek was also Qazaq. Modern Uzbeks aren’t ancient Özbeks, they are Sarts and Turkic speaking Tajiks. Modern Mongolians aren’t ancient Moghols, they are Manchus and Tibetans. Qazaq Khanate was the union of nomad Özbeks and Moghulistan.

"Timur the Lame: History's Last Great Nomadic Conqueror" Nader Shah: "Am I a joke to you?"

@StoicHistorian

5 ай бұрын

Nader was a nomad but his armies were not nomadic

Iriquois Apache

Amir e Kabir Temur died in Otrar.

Nice work?. Would like a video editor?. I have great map and i can make videos like kings and generals. interested?.

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

I'm really interested. Could you help me ?

THE GREAT KING OF KINGS AMIR TIMUR

For me personally only 2 men have fascinated me. They are prophey Muhammad and genghis Khan. I don't know why but for me they were the most influential men in history. Timur is close and of course Muhammad Ali too because of my pfp. But timur was a genocidal maniac. He really destroyed alot of good societies. He looked up to genghis of course but he was barabaric

@Historyteller346

5 ай бұрын

There is a total of 3 great central Asian conquerors. They are in chronological order : - Genghis Khan - Tamerlane - Nader Shah Afshar

@user-pc3ts8yc5b

5 ай бұрын

@@Historyteller346 Nader was a slave from Uzbek khanates. He can't even approach the shadow of Tamerlane. Tamerlane smashed all his contemporary empires. Nader only had border skirmishes with Ottomans border patrol. Timur's sword shattered the world from China in the east to the gates of Constantinople in the west! Wake up, baby!

@user-pc3ts8yc5b

5 ай бұрын

Tamerlane destroyed which "good society" ? Jalayirid? Muzaffarid? Tribal kingdom of ottomans? Nomadic Golden Horde?

@KD400_

5 ай бұрын

@@Historyteller346 I know but I was listing my personal list of men I'm fascinated by.

@Historyteller346

5 ай бұрын

​@@user-pc3ts8yc5b Battle of Malayer : 25.000 Persians VS 30.000 Ottomans Battle of Samarra : 70.000 Persians VS 80.000 Ottomans Battle of Kirkuk : ? Persians VS 100.000 Ottomans Battle of Yaghevard : 18.000 Persians VS 80.000 Ottomans Battle of Kars : 80.000 Persians VS 140.000 Ottomans Small border skirmishes ?

Timur's land 🇺🇿

"... a nuisance in the side of Timor"?

wasn't Nader Shah born into tribal nomads under Safavids?

@StoicHistorian

5 ай бұрын

Yes but his army was gun powder focused

The last? Surely one can make a case for Nurhaci or Hong Taiji?

@StoicHistorian

5 ай бұрын

but are they "great" nomads, those guys are pretty minor compared to the Khans. But it's always up to interpretation this is just mine

@yeshichophel5428

5 ай бұрын

Qing empire is not nomad

@Heresjonnyagain

5 ай бұрын

@@yeshichophel5428 Nurhaci is Jin, not Qing. Hong Taiji as the founder of the Qing was the final Jin conqueror

@yeshichophel5428

5 ай бұрын

@@Heresjonnyagain you meant later Jin, Jin dynasty founder is Wanyan Aguda

@Heresjonnyagain

5 ай бұрын

@@yeshichophel5428 yes, I would’ve thought in this context that went without saying

He had red hair and green eyes and was of aryan descent just like the scythians who were the horselords of the steppes before the mongols, the female leader of the scythians killed cyrus the great and decimated his army and cyrus the great was alexander the greats inspiration and the reason he used the title of the great, cyrus had also conquered most of the known world at that time.

@tommytells370

4 ай бұрын

He was the “Prince of Destruction” never a king, why is this? Because he was a vassal under GREATER TARTARIA

@dantepr1566

4 ай бұрын

nope, he was not of aryan descent. have a nice day.

@WMurr

4 ай бұрын

Man was asian dood

@halaldunya918

3 ай бұрын

He was East Asian in appearance. Black hair like modern day Mongolians.

@tommytells370

3 ай бұрын

He was mix decent. There were black Huns and white Huns according to Tacitus (Turkmen & Scythian). Chinese chroniclers say there were Wild Tartars, Black Tartars and White Tartars. They describe them very clearly as having either long red hair and pale faces or being blunt faced with short black hair. They were being mixed a lot which is why there are walls and statues depicting both Western Tartars and Eastern Tartars as either Western Caucasians looking or Eastern Mongolian looking. Regardless of whether there’s artefacts in the xinjang province in China showing red haired horsemen we should just appreciate that this guy never lost a game of chess in his life.

Timur say his mother is from royal Persian line . Timur say his father is from Mongol line and common ancestor of Genghis Khan .Timur say his mother was descendant of the legendary Persian Hero-King Manuchehr .That would make Timur a man of Perso-Mongol origin according to himself .In reality Timur mother was named Tekina Khatun amd was probably a Mongol of lowly birth who was related to the Yasa'ur line ( Yasa'ur was the great-great-grandson Chagathai Khan ) or maybe she was from the line of Genghis Khan . Or she was daughter of Sadr al-Sharia who was from the Persian Hanafi scholar Ubayd Allah al-Mahbubi of Bukhara . So we have two sources that say she was either a lowly Mongol woman related to the Yasa'ur tribe or that she was related to Genghis Khan line ... And we have two sources that state that she was from either a Persian line of Sunni Hanafi scholar and the other source is Timur himself who said she was from the mythical royal Persian Manuchehr line . Not Turkic 🤣😂Timur skull is fully Mongoloid , some say he is tall because of his Persian / Iranic ancestry . Also if he was Turkicized then he was also Mongolisized and Persianized 🤣😂truth is that Timur was according to himself a half-Persian by his mother side and a half Mongol by his father side . Timur father ( Taraghai Noyan ) was the great-great-grandson of Qarachar Noyan the Mongol who was the general of Genghis Khan What of Timur was Turkic again ? 🤣😂

@strider8662

4 ай бұрын

Hate to break it to you, there is no such thing as "Mongol skull", genetics are near impossible to differenciate among nomadic tribes especially living close by (like turkic and mongolic tribes). Turkic and partially mongolic ethnicities are linguistic, meaning they are that ethnicity from the language they speak. And Tamerlane is known to be born into a tribe that spoke a turkic language. While Barlas tribe is known to have history with mongolic origins, they spoke chagatai which does make them a turkic and/or turkified tribe. And Timur himself is very well documented to speak chagatai as his primary language although he did speak persian and mongolic too. Another point on why he is clearly turkic. And last but not least, his own words. Timur was -very- vocal about being a turk, even mocked Fledling Ottomans for using non-turkic soldiers in battle.

My boy Timur aint no lame SMH

Anchent histoia goes deap into timurlanes conquests and reading books from the 17 th century and there are big difrences of ehat were told now and what was writen much closer to the actual time go figure right

Thank you for saying Chinggis not Ghengis!!!!

Greatest murderer😅😅😅😅

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

Just like every other medieval ruler...

The last great nomad empire is dzungar khanate

@StoicHistorian

5 ай бұрын

Great?

@yeshichophel5428

5 ай бұрын

@@StoicHistorian maybe not greater than timur empire but still an empire

Some fun facts about the Ottoman-Timurid War from a Kipchak Türk thus who always felt himself closer to Emir Timur's side than the Ottomans since elementary school history lessons who lives in Türkiye; -The mercenaries who switched sides in the war were named Kara Tatarlar (Black Tatars). A Turco/Mongol tribe in Anatolia. Their primary motive to switch sides was that the Ottomans who have married Roman or Bosnian/Serbian princesses for a long time because of political schemes were "lesser Türks" or "half-blooded Türks". So they decided that they should fight for the "real Türk". Also a little bit of gold. -The name Timur is a name given to male children in Türkiye. Thinking that Türkiye is the successor state of the Ottoman Empire, its a bit funny. Modern Türks doesn't give the name of "Stefan" (who fought for the empire until the last second) to their children but they name their children Timur (who burned Anatolia to a crisp and built skull towers.) -After the Ottoman defeat Timur besieged İzmir which was a Knights Hospitaller fort that the Ottomans failed to take multiple times before Timur. (Its called İzmir not Smyrna so suck it Greek bois.) He took the city and did some inhumane things to those shiny knights. So in a way, Timur did a really big favor to Ottomans, after destroying their state, of course. -Letters between Bayezid the Drunkard (who really loved wine) and Timur the One Leg (self explanatory) are hilarious. Some of them includes calling the other one an ant and calling himself an elephant and telling the other one that he is not a man and advising him to divorce his wives because his dick probably doesnt work. -Ankara is the capital of modern Türkiye and the name of the airport of Ankara is "Esenboğa Havalimanı". "Esenboğa" or "Isen Buga", which literally means "the windy bull or the bull who blows", is named after Isen Buga, military advisor to Timur who commanded the some twenty odd elephants in the battle. It is said that Isen Buga hid the elephants on the place today the airport stands. Thus comes the name. -Lastly, In the year of 1071 Caesar of the Roman Empire fought against the invading nomadic Türks in Battle of Malazgirt and lost. More than 300 years after that, a Türk who called himself "Sultan-ı Rum" (Caesar of The Romans) fought against the invading nomadic Türks and again, lost. Karma is a bitch, huh? -Biggest lesson a Türk can learn from the Battle of Ankara is; "Remember, there is always a bigger Türk."

@orka6848

5 ай бұрын

My dude... I'm a Begdilli-Kayı Turk. I traced my lineage and what I found is that our family is either a family who came to Anatolia alongside with the Emir Timur or one of the ones who switch sides during the war. We are somehow also related to Safevi Khanate. My surname is one of the governors of Timur's name and also in Chaghatai Turkish. We are Kızılbaş Türkmens and its literally badass to feel that connection with Timur. Even Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was a huge fan of Emir Timur and was asked to get compare by him. He literally said, "If he was living in our time, he would easily do what I did and would have do even more... But if I was living in his time, I could not even succeed a single step that he took":.. During the War of Liberation, Bukhara-Uzbekisten president at the time Osman Hocaoglu sent Timurs and his commanders swords into Anatolia in order to be given to the first soldier who enters İzmir. It was given to Atatürk... pbs.twimg.com/media/E-I3BTIXEAQ6hs6.jpg You can see the sword.

@Shimra8888

5 ай бұрын

So there is still a racial memory of the Turk in Turkey? I hear genetic tests like 23andMe are banned because when citizens or Turkey 🇹🇷 take the test, the results are 80% Greek and 20% Armenian 😂!

@craigmason9893

5 ай бұрын

Thank you

@meme-potentialsearch8010

4 ай бұрын

least nationalistc turk. How many times did he say "Türk" ? 30? 50?

@merdodurano

4 ай бұрын

@@meme-potentialsearch8010 fewer times than a serbian peasant said running away after seing an ottoman taxman coming to collect his cows and sons.

I am from Khwarezm. Timur wasnt a bandit, he was a local mini nobility clan. Son of Haji Barlas, he was chieften of a tribe already. Emir Hussein saw potential in him and decided to team up. The rest is history

Even when not seizing the world, acquisition for ownership is morally indefensible.

@jsotirakis

4 ай бұрын

Acquisition by violence or threat of violence, not acquisition by work or trade

@markwrede8878

4 ай бұрын

@@jsotirakis Adam Smith confirmed capitalism to be identical to extortion. Ownership is retained through the state's threat of official violence.

@markwrede8878

4 ай бұрын

@slawaboga1433 Where is anthropology?

Imagine he didnt consider Europe worth to conquer. What if he Took Constantinople

@Iamnotracistlmao

4 ай бұрын

He was already old by that time lol

@subutaykhan9387

4 ай бұрын

@@slawaboga1433 Bayezid the Thunderbolt defeated Crusaders at the battle of nicopolis. I think this statement is enough

@subutaykhan9387

4 ай бұрын

@@slawaboga1433 he took izmir easily. It was protected by Templars. I think he could took Constantinople as well. European knights stood no chance against Timur's light cavalry. I dont need to mention war elephants. Europe's only chance to survive would be guerilla tactics like Vlad and skenderbeg did against ottomans. I dont want to be disrespectful but during Timur's era Russians were no threat against him. He ended golden Horde so Russians could take a breath from golden horde.

@wolfgangamadeus2873

4 ай бұрын

I don't think you really understand the topic at all. This is not a pissing contest to show European power/dominance etc. Last time a real Nomad visited Europe to stay, you know what's happened (The Huns). The problem is, this guy been superior to a barbarian like Attila, in fact he could be the contender of #1 place and Attila was not even in the top 10 as a leader. That Smyrna Castle and the hospitallers in it, defended that place against all kind of attacks, not only Ottoman Turks but also Muslims before them. Timur had one of the first gunpowder using force along with Greek fire. What makes him undefeatable after he gained enough manpower/intellectual around him, he was improving both technical and tactical-wise. The most important part is that he didn't even consider Europe a place to take at time, he simply didn't care about it. A highly intellectual and cruel man like him along with the force of gunpowder and will to dominate that continent, would be an end to European world. If you don't know the hospitallers than we shouldn't even argue. Lemme give you a bonus, JRR Tolkien been used Smyrna Castle's loss(along with Szigetvár) in his second LOTR book (The Two Towers). Just check out Helm's Deep siege and Smyrna Castle's you will see the similarities. @@slawaboga1433

@wolfgangamadeus2873

4 ай бұрын

I think you have no knowledge at all. When Timur ravaging Muslims/Ottomans and nomadic Turks along with Persians and all of the other 'top tier fighter folks' like little puppets, ALMOST HALF OF OUR EUROPEAN POPULATION WIPED OUT BECAUSE OF THE BLACK DEATH. You have no historical analyse skill to understand what is happened for real. The reason Muslims could stay away from the black death was because of they have a 5 times a day (it could be 4, i don't remember exactly) religious practice, which requires washing your body parts before the practices. At the time, the European powers using bows and swords Timurids practising elephant mounted cannons, religion-based morality was in tatters due to black death which affected Papal dominance to a total failure and Sack of Constantinople by the Catholics before it. He was one ''Orthodox victory'' away to dominate Europe, but without knowledge of the Nomadic/Turkic culture, Muslim mentality, importancy of trade roads (Silk etc.) which is almost fully controlled by Timurids, one cannot understand the case. You have no idea how effective the way he did to gain dominance. Every time he enters a new area he was gathering intellectuals,artists and religious influencers and paying them a huge amount of money unlike Europeans. What makes us European is totally connected to our cultural heritage,religion with literature and imagine this guy was controlling it in every possible way. There are pages of things to type down here but am not gonna answer you again. Keep your pissing contest up with somebody else, have fun. @@slawaboga1433